DUNE Part Two | Science vs Cinema

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  • @shirleymental4189
    @shirleymental4189 7 місяців тому +102

    The sandworms don't 'let' them ride them. When the hooks lift the scales it exposes the soft flesh underneath, the worm is just trying to keep the sand out of it.

    • @stevespain6445
      @stevespain6445 7 місяців тому +24

      This! In the book I enjoyed the description of the Sandworms being 'grumpy' after being ridden for a lengthy trip.

    • @saryntoews
      @saryntoews 4 місяці тому +1

      Isn’t the skin flaps the way the sand worm breathes? They close up when the creature goes underground so I assume that by holding them open the sand worm won’t submerge.

  • @Concreteowl
    @Concreteowl 7 місяців тому +130

    In Dune they have very strict rules about the use of nuclear weapons. If a family used them to wipe out another House that House wouldn't last long. Even the Harkhonnen didn't use them against the Atreides for precisely this reason and Paul doesn't use them directly against the Emperor but rather to smash a mountain range protecting one side of the capital city.

    • @igorbednarski8048
      @igorbednarski8048 7 місяців тому +40

      If I recall correctly from the books, the punishment for using atomics against people was all other houses using their own nukes to basically commit a nuclear holocaust against the home planet of the offending house. Paul used the weapons against some rocks, not people, so it was perfectly legal.

    • @Janx14
      @Janx14 7 місяців тому +7

      Since laser + shield = nuclear explosion I wonder if these weapons actually are just a container for a laser to fire at a shield projected inside the tube.

    • @manwiththeredface7821
      @manwiththeredface7821 6 місяців тому +2

      Interesting how, after the fall of House Atreides the Harkonnens didn't turn their attention to the still missing Atreides nuclear stockpile, knowing it could get into the hands of smugglers or even the Fremen etc.

    • @Concreteowl
      @Concreteowl 5 місяців тому

      @@Janx14 laser plus sheild created an uncontrolled explosion on the scale of a nuke. It was too random to he trusted.

    • @ElMistroFeroz
      @ElMistroFeroz 4 місяці тому

      How do you replace worn out parts on something that just sits there.

  • @zincChameleon
    @zincChameleon 5 місяців тому +11

    In one of the Dune novels, Frank Herbert explains sandworm biology, and came up with a hypothesis of how Arrakis can have a high-oxygen atmosphere. Sandworms are silcon dioxide fire breathers.

  • @natev7870
    @natev7870 7 місяців тому +39

    Wow I forget I'm subscribed to this channel but randomly get bangers dropped like this

  • @troutfish8590
    @troutfish8590 7 місяців тому +11

    Love this channel. Was just re-visiting the old arrival breakdown. Awesome to see you show back up when the time calls.

  • @ishaanhall78
    @ishaanhall78 7 місяців тому +46

    what about the black sun of Geidi Prime? anything interesting about that?

    • @royalecrafts6252
      @royalecrafts6252 7 місяців тому +3

      Im not the maker of the video or course, a black sun wouldnt be black unless is always another stellar body in front or the sun is long dead, the sun we see in dune 2 must had a dim red opaque light sort of like matte painting sweeping the landscape, since the black body peaked in the infrared spectrum, the planet would be very cold or even icy as well, constructions would be black to contain the minimun heat radiated by the dim sun as well, something we didnt see in the movie, plants and wildlife would be very dark coloration as well and probably plants havr moving parts to follow the light frencuencies, probably open up more at night to recieve reflected light from the sun from one of the planet moons (if there is one), the actual science way will be way more interesting than the artistic representation in my view

    • @Irrazzo
      @Irrazzo 7 місяців тому +5

      Not science-related, but I thought the fact that the movie Harkonnen had a "black sun" might also have been inspired by the neo-Nazi symbol of the same name, "Schwarze Sonne" in German. Another hidden reference to that they are meant to be perceived as a deeply fascist society, maybe. It's not in the source material, though. Frank Herbert rather uses words like "baroque" in the books to hint at the decadence of the Harkonnen upper court. It is hinted that the much larger rest of the Harkonnen society, meanwhile, lives in squalor.

    • @royalecrafts6252
      @royalecrafts6252 7 місяців тому +1

      @@Irrazzonot a very realistic intergalactic society from a scientific point of view tho I might add

    • @Irrazzo
      @Irrazzo 7 місяців тому +2

      True. Want to add that my initial response was ill-informed. There apparently went some deeper thought into the infrared filming and the black sun and connection to the books than I had thought.

    • @royalecrafts6252
      @royalecrafts6252 7 місяців тому

      @@Irrazzoyep, I red the dune books 1 trough 6, didnt like them much as scifi, more like just fantasy space opera with real life political dilema, that's the issue with projecting real life issues into a 20k year story telling, you won't have the same issues most likely, not if you are going interstellar and are part of an almost galactic (so far in the books) framework.
      A society like the harkonnen wouldn't work because they will always have infightning because of constant tyrany, that wouldn't allow for the consistent development of usefull techs to make hospitable planets or methods of transport more efficient, that in turn wouldn't be nicely view by the other houses which in time will probably just remove the harkonnens from space travel if they don't fix their issues making them stuck in one dim red planet until they behave

  • @Rauruatreides
    @Rauruatreides 5 місяців тому +2

    Its interesting just how many parallels are with Arrakis and Mars. Desert, low water, 2 moons. In fact, if I remember correctly, Arrakis was originally supposed to BE Mars, but someone suggested that because people had too many preconceived notions about Mars, Frank Herbert decided to make a new planet instead.

  • @hvitekristesdod
    @hvitekristesdod 7 місяців тому +2

    Great video. Dune part 2 is my favourite film and I love learning more details about it 😀

  • @logank9177
    @logank9177 7 місяців тому +3

    Hyped for this video!

  • @sathwikkanneganti
    @sathwikkanneganti 7 місяців тому +2

    Subbed. 2:20 Beautiful example with the coffee, immediately wanted to sub. 💯

  • @ravenragnar
    @ravenragnar 7 місяців тому +7

    Curious on your take on the Butlerian Jihad?

  • @sorewahimitsudesu
    @sorewahimitsudesu 7 місяців тому +1

    I don't know if you're in the market for unsolicited suggestions for films for analysis, but here are mine:
    2001: A Space Odyssey (1968)
    Primer (2004)
    Creator (1985)
    Arrowsmith (1931)
    Lifespan (1975)
    What the #$*! Do We (K)now!? (2004)
    Borders (TV Movie 1989)
    Mindwalk (1990)

  • @LeoStaley
    @LeoStaley 7 місяців тому +3

    This channel has more than 80k subscribers, this video has been out for 7 hours and has less than 1k views. Wtf youtube?

  • @hdufort
    @hdufort 7 місяців тому +8

    The Atreides had been in control of Dune for a very short time, and Paul found them just a free months later, so the nukes are still fresh.

  • @HeroKominato
    @HeroKominato 7 місяців тому

    Wow very interesting! Thanks for showing this 😊 Subcribed

  • @Bob-Fields
    @Bob-Fields 7 місяців тому

    If it goes too weird... Frank Herbert: Hold My Beer!

  • @WMCheerman
    @WMCheerman 7 місяців тому +2

    Great work

  • @Heidi2003
    @Heidi2003 7 місяців тому +1

    Great video!

  • @lyledal
    @lyledal 7 місяців тому +1

    It appears that the Ministry of Silly Walks has endured into the far, far future!

  • @UFO_PILOT
    @UFO_PILOT 7 місяців тому

    Any new scenes or exposition on how the Heighliners work?

  • @MarkArandjus
    @MarkArandjus 7 місяців тому +1

    11:23
    Did y'all artificially extend that shot? :D

  • @blackdog6969
    @blackdog6969 7 місяців тому

    7:00 excuse me!? The cast of Nemo are psychoactive? That's.... Definitely something. Probably why they can speak XD

  • @willykang1293
    @willykang1293 7 місяців тому +1

    Definitely watch… but not now…😅

  • @MarkHurlow-cf2ix
    @MarkHurlow-cf2ix 7 місяців тому

    The rocket fuel had to be kept separate from the missiles because the fuel was corrosive.
    So before firing a nuclear weapon they must first fuel these weapons to fire them.

  • @MattAngiono
    @MattAngiono 7 місяців тому +1

    If resonant frequency was why they do the sand walk, then why couldn't they just run or walk at a different frequency (which wouldn't be resonant)

    • @davepatois297
      @davepatois297 7 місяців тому +1

      The way i interpreted it, it's very hard to not be resonant to a certain degree. The sand walk is a step you can remember to help you do it without flaw, since if you unknowingly get into a rythm, you die very easily.
      Maybe the sand walk isn't the easiest or most optimal, but it's the safest and one you can learn and use for hours without mistakes

    • @MattAngiono
      @MattAngiono 7 місяців тому

      @davepatois297 resonant frequencies are VERY specific and precise.
      They are dependent on the molecular structure and therefore have to be almost exact.
      Any variation will keep them from building up.
      Rhythmic patterns are a different thing.
      Certainly, a living being could be responsive to that.
      But the idea that anyone walking or running generates a resonant frequency that amplifies is pretty far fetched, especially in sand where the density is variable and sounds would dissipate quickly

  • @Concreteowl
    @Concreteowl 7 місяців тому +2

    If you walk without rhythm, you'll never learn.

  • @EatScrabbleGoo
    @EatScrabbleGoo 7 місяців тому +2

    You're much more pleasant than Neil Degrasse Tyson!

  • @AndrewNiccol
    @AndrewNiccol 6 місяців тому

    Please made a video points out every mistake in Armageddon!

  • @fast1nakus
    @fast1nakus 7 місяців тому

    Are you implying that sand is indeed a good medium to transfer sound?

  • @KB3M
    @KB3M 7 місяців тому +2

    How about how a planet can have an oxygen rich atmosphere with nearly zero vegetation.

    • @B0tch0
      @B0tch0 7 місяців тому

      Yes! ... My mind is running wild, maybe fungus? Oxygen can also be broken down from heavier elements. The worm might be farting compounds using CO2 and something else? Methane is CH4. Something would have to grab the Carbon somehow.

    • @Kai-fb1ol
      @Kai-fb1ol 7 місяців тому +5

      The sandworms' metabolism generates oxygen as a byproduct. I'm not sure how, but they eat sand and generate a huge amount of internal heat, so maybe they're breaking down the sand somehow?

    • @YVLIVS
      @YVLIVS 7 місяців тому

      @@Kai-fb1olI’ve heard there’s microbes that the sandworms eat like whales that gives them their energy and subsequently oxygen. But the entire ecosystem of Arrakis relies on the worms. It would not work without them

    • @royalecrafts6252
      @royalecrafts6252 7 місяців тому

      ​@@Kai-fb1olthey eat sand krill, not sand, another fantasy element

    • @siam-xq8ln
      @siam-xq8ln 7 місяців тому

      the sandworm make oxygen as a biproduct

  • @OgYokYok
    @OgYokYok 7 місяців тому

    Sad that even in the utopian future of DUNE we still have nukes 😢