Can you imagine the terror some of the enemies feel? You send a full fleet against an incoming enemy, they send ONE unknown vessel. Over the course of the battle, your fleet is getting absolutely disassembled by a ship that doesn't stay in one plane of existence. This one vessel then approaches your star fortress, which barely does anything against it. Fleet after fleet are being thrown against it, but your fleets are being torn asunder by glowing space motes before the ship appears to finish off what ever is left.
tbh,the Zig isnt really that hard to beat to get it,u just need fast ships with tac lasers or swarms of fighters,to keep it phased in until it max fluxes itself and its then free picking.Also idk if u know,when u have the Zig in your fleet,every NPC will know its you the player even with the transponder off
Thats fair aha. One thing i like about this game is dependent on how you build the fleet things can go real well, or real bad haha. Sure is a fun fight though! Thats a neat mechanic. I mean, only one of these in the universe would be hard to hide. Maybe a ship sized fake moustache and glasses? 😂
@@PapaCheddar yes but I did not try that(it would work. using the console mod is the other way. which I googled starsector ziggurat unique signiture. to find the major spoilers thread for starsector which Histidine kindly has a runcode to deactivate the unique signiture.
honestly i just paragon'd it used plasma cannons and tachyon lances to rip it into bits after it came out of phase from all of the mining lasers i was throwing at it
If you really wanna turn the Ziggurat into a monster, set it up with the following, though it requires taking out all 3 tesseracts in the game, if you don't get the wanted loot then save-scumming is an option: 2x Rift Cascade Emitters 4 Resonator MRM's 6 Antimatter SRM's As many CAPS as you can Phase Anchor with S-Modded Integrated Targeting Unit and Advanced Optics, and make sure you have gunnery implants and Phase Tuning if you can have it in your setup. Missile Specialization will help with the SRM AND MRM's. This build turns the Ziggurat into a nightmare for any fleet to fight, I've even been able to take out the starbase above Chicomoztoc solo with it. Someone people have told me that having 1 RCE and 1 Tachyon Lance worked better, I think it's up to preference. With all these range extensions you should be able to get all 5 rifts to spawn per RCE of around 15000 range or closer to your target, as the further you are from your target the fewer rifts spawn.
Oh nice. Thank you. So far I had only found 1 tesseract. Well 1 group of 2 lol. The search continues for more, though i probably won't use this big boi ship again anytime soon. But I greatly enjoy knowing how to better equip it when the time comes 😛
😅 its a really strong ship! And i might argue that each mote is kind of a kamikazi fighter. So really it's like 1 ship and then hundreds of fighters with death wishes haha
I brought a slightly weaker but simmilar fleet and got absolutely wiped. 3 cruisers, 2 destroyers, several of the tankiest frigates in the game (monitors) and 2 carriers: a heron (3 fighter bays) and astral (6 fighter bays). I lasted mere minutes against this monster. I’m currently in the process of using my vast wealth to build a specialised fleet of expendable carriers to take this thing down. My only strategy being “have more fighters than the enemy has ammunition”
Damn I love how oppressive and intimidating the sound design is for this ship. Drives home the fact it is some other worldly alien design originating from some alien civilization with tech far exceeding humanity's . What if in their world the Ziggurat was just meant to be a fuel tanker or something but to humans it's this high tech killing machine. xD
yeah, it's actually a terrifying thing to ponder on from the main character perspective. it's a capital-sized ship capable of going into phase space. whatever it is, the Omegas and the lesser AIs absolutely despise it and seem to be petrified about what lies behind the Gates now
I will attempt to elevate your cheese sir. I like a tactic where you leashe the sparklyboys behind larger targets, and ones with fixed shields and low maneuverability, then sicking the boys on the unshielded rear.
I gave my zig two rift torpedoes with anti matter missile launchers. The phase anchor makes it insanely powerful as the cuts the cooldown of those weapons by a half. Essentially doubling their dps. What’s more insane is the double soft flux vent while phased , completely negating the drawback of using those omaga weapon which is their insane flux cost. So so happens is , I go to the front lines. Deploy 2 rift torpedos (it does 12k energy damage) , go into phase for 10 sec. And deploys another 2. With this setup I was able to kill the remenet battleship easily
Nice technique! Zig is the definitive peek a boo champ haha. Peek, missile ti the face, boo. Feel like it's in its own weight class entirely. (Vanilla of course lol) could be fun to see how it does with the worst load out 😂
Hi there here is a tip on the zigurat the motes it fires/purple ball things they only deal damage to shields (technicly they do damage the hull but its about 1) so if you got targeted bt the mores tou should unshield. And if your using it only activate it if they fot shield on like fortress shields by the paragon/monitor
theres a mod u can get to restore the zigg to its og state when you get it... or dig into the ship hull file and add in the missing mod that the origninal has... anyways i thought this vid would have been a run showcasing that... mmm cha dude...
Every self respecting country needs a good hat. Unfortunately for us, our hat is covered in maple syrup and wont come off... Really should just conquer them already imo
I'd have to check but I'm pretty sure there is verbage on the weapons saying they count as beam weapons. I could be wrong 😂 but im like 69% sure. If not... Then im a dummy and i wasted some OP haha
kek advanced optics with no beams 10/10 would zigg again [rly tho, tachyons + phase lances + max caps and no dissipation just end a bitch with anchor dumping flux every dive. +1 if you have ship+weapon pack for light phase lances on the small slots too]
Id have to look again but it was either OP limitations or maybe i didn't have them. But I'm pretty sure i did haha. So probably OP with all the other stuff i threw on there.
Plasma cannons have amazing sustained damage but pulse lasers have better burst damage. Burst lasers are usually limited by their magazine needing to recharge. But thats not an issue with Cheese
Good question. I wanted to add that into the video but I couldn't find another one. Though after the fact I did find the second one right next to my first... When I searched I went counter clockwise... Had I gone clockwise it would have been in the video lol. Planning on doing another add on against the shunty boys 😂
Guessing you're referring to the motes. Its the zigs special ability with F. Hitting F they rush to where your cursor is and I brlieve they do a fair bit of emp damage. Same as the purple ones during the actual fight.
@@PapaCheddar thanks a lot for the reply. I am a newbie and I use the ships on autopilot. I never seen it shoot the blue things, got disappointed and stored it. It was so powerful when I fought it.
No problem! Happy to help. Yeah once it becomes a friendly ship they change color. The zig is super powerful imo. Can solo darn near anything if played right. If you get some piloting practice in, every ship will do better when player controlled lol. Sometimes the AI will be silly, especially depending on what type of officer you got haha.
I couldn't find any 😅 and ran short on recording time unfortunately lol. Ahem... But id... Totally stomp those... Doritos... Ahem... For sure! They are lucky i didn't find em! Ahem...
Maybe "one of" the hardest should have been the slogan haha. With the right fleet anything can be easy though. Personally i find phase ships the most annoying to fight 😅. Though my first go against tesseracts it was down to me in an onslaught, a legion and am apogee against the final extremely fast little section... Ohhhhh man was the equally if not more annoying haha. Fun though, but holy balls they can be hard to hit...
This ship is almost too powerful. But oh man is it fun!
Love you bye!
The cost to field it is almost correct. It's a lot.
It is a lot 😂 but when it can be all you need it's understandable lol
The biggest downside to the ziggurat is that everyone knows about the ziggurat
Kinda wish you could phase out on the overworld map. Like going dark, but phasing lol. Ultimate smuggler. Then they would never know 😎
It may be powerful, but it's not Cheddah.
Can you imagine the terror some of the enemies feel? You send a full fleet against an incoming enemy, they send ONE unknown vessel. Over the course of the battle, your fleet is getting absolutely disassembled by a ship that doesn't stay in one plane of existence. This one vessel then approaches your star fortress, which barely does anything against it. Fleet after fleet are being thrown against it, but your fleets are being torn asunder by glowing space motes before the ship appears to finish off what ever is left.
I always picture it like when a Klingon ship uncloaks 😂
Digging the descriptions btw haha. On this day buttholes puckered accross the entire sector.
@@PapaCheddar thank you
basicaly the plot of one of the later books in the Expanse saga
Sounds horribly terrifying haha
They better be scared when i put 6 wmd's on it
tbh,the Zig isnt really that hard to beat to get it,u just need fast ships with tac lasers or swarms of fighters,to keep it phased in until it max fluxes itself and its then free picking.Also idk if u know,when u have the Zig in your fleet,every NPC will know its you the player even with the transponder off
Thats fair aha. One thing i like about this game is dependent on how you build the fleet things can go real well, or real bad haha. Sure is a fun fight though!
Thats a neat mechanic. I mean, only one of these in the universe would be hard to hide. Maybe a ship sized fake moustache and glasses? 😂
I hate that "feature" so I turn it off
Didn't even know that was something you could turn off. Would that be editing stuff in notepad?
@@PapaCheddar yes but I did not try that(it would work. using the console mod is the other way. which I googled starsector ziggurat unique signiture. to find the major spoilers thread for starsector which Histidine kindly has a runcode to deactivate the unique signiture.
honestly i just paragon'd it
used plasma cannons and tachyon lances to rip it into bits after it came out of phase from all of the mining lasers i was throwing at it
I love the feeling of using forbidden techs againt your enemies.
It is quite satisfying lol. Theres nothing they can do about it!
Go find that stinkin' Luddic Path fleet that wants you to destroy/give up the Ziggurat candy bar, uh Big Cheese. Then teach them a lesson.
😂 i like it.
Never tried to do the quest line after getting the zig beforehand lol. I'll show them!!!
If you really wanna turn the Ziggurat into a monster, set it up with the following, though it requires taking out all 3 tesseracts in the game, if you don't get the wanted loot then save-scumming is an option:
2x Rift Cascade Emitters
4 Resonator MRM's
6 Antimatter SRM's
As many CAPS as you can
Phase Anchor with S-Modded Integrated Targeting Unit and Advanced Optics, and make sure you have gunnery implants and Phase Tuning if you can have it in your setup. Missile Specialization will help with the SRM AND MRM's. This build turns the Ziggurat into a nightmare for any fleet to fight, I've even been able to take out the starbase above Chicomoztoc solo with it.
Someone people have told me that having 1 RCE and 1 Tachyon Lance worked better, I think it's up to preference. With all these range extensions you should be able to get all 5 rifts to spawn per RCE of around 15000 range or closer to your target, as the further you are from your target the fewer rifts spawn.
Oh nice. Thank you. So far I had only found 1 tesseract. Well 1 group of 2 lol. The search continues for more, though i probably won't use this big boi ship again anytime soon. But I greatly enjoy knowing how to better equip it when the time comes 😛
@@PapaCheddar Good luck :) Btw I made a mistake above, it's 5 tesseracts, 2 from each hypershunt and 1 from high rep military contact bounty.
shows a fully fledged batallion, worries about combat vs 1 ship
😅 its a really strong ship! And i might argue that each mote is kind of a kamikazi fighter. So really it's like 1 ship and then hundreds of fighters with death wishes haha
I brought a slightly weaker but simmilar fleet and got absolutely wiped.
3 cruisers, 2 destroyers, several of the tankiest frigates in the game (monitors) and 2 carriers: a heron (3 fighter bays) and astral (6 fighter bays).
I lasted mere minutes against this monster.
I’m currently in the process of using my vast wealth to build a specialised fleet of expendable carriers to take this thing down. My only strategy being “have more fighters than the enemy has ammunition”
Good luck to you brother haha. The old battle of attrition roosky tactics 😂
You know you're getting old when your chiropractor knows your name better than you do.
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Rarr : phase ship suck..so i sell it
Blasphemy! This was so much fun. Basically anti-suck. Soloing a star fortress ain't too shabby neither.
Damn I love how oppressive and intimidating the sound design is for this ship. Drives home the fact it is some other worldly alien design originating from some alien civilization with tech far exceeding humanity's . What if in their world the Ziggurat was just meant to be a fuel tanker or something but to humans it's this high tech killing machine. xD
Well said 😂 that'd be nuts. Tho I'd love to see what their actual battleships were like if that was the case haha
yeah, it's actually a terrifying thing to ponder on from the main character perspective. it's a capital-sized ship capable of going into phase space. whatever it is, the Omegas and the lesser AIs absolutely despise it and seem to be petrified about what lies behind the Gates now
Give it 10 more years and we'll get some more answers 😂
Hey cmon now, when Opfor deploys purple phase goo, you fucked.
I will attempt to elevate your cheese sir. I like a tactic where you leashe the sparklyboys behind larger targets, and ones with fixed shields and low maneuverability, then sicking the boys on the unshielded rear.
Mmmm thats delightfully cheesey 🧀
I never considered that tactic. Thats really smart haha. Well done.
@@PapaCheddar My pleasure sir, and other readers.
I gave my zig two rift torpedoes with anti matter missile launchers. The phase anchor makes it insanely powerful as the cuts the cooldown of those weapons by a half. Essentially doubling their dps. What’s more insane is the double soft flux vent while phased , completely negating the drawback of using those omaga weapon which is their insane flux cost.
So so happens is , I go to the front lines. Deploy 2 rift torpedos (it does 12k energy damage) , go into phase for 10 sec. And deploys another 2. With this setup I was able to kill the remenet battleship easily
Nice technique! Zig is the definitive peek a boo champ haha. Peek, missile ti the face, boo.
Feel like it's in its own weight class entirely. (Vanilla of course lol) could be fun to see how it does with the worst load out 😂
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Hi there here is a tip on the zigurat the motes it fires/purple ball things they only deal damage to shields (technicly they do damage the hull but its about 1) so if you got targeted bt the mores tou should unshield. And if your using it only activate it if they fot shield on like fortress shields by the paragon/monitor
Didn't know that, i just hope i remember it 🤣
@@PapaCheddar no problem
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theres a mod u can get to restore the zigg to its og state when you get it... or dig into the ship hull file and add in the missing mod that the origninal has... anyways i thought this vid would have been a run showcasing that... mmm cha dude...
Dang that's pretty cool haha. I'll have to check that out. Crank the op up to maximum 🤣
I've never seen a person who's so american yet so canadian at the same time
I'm both honored and insulted... complex feelings going on here 🤣
Eh, it's the unofficial 51st state.
Every self respecting country needs a good hat. Unfortunately for us, our hat is covered in maple syrup and wont come off... Really should just conquer them already imo
My Zig build is High Scatter amplifier with 2 tach lances, four phase and lesser lasers.
I tried out the tach lances but didn't like them as much 😅 probably more efficient though haha.
Ziggy and 2 plasma cannons 🤩🤩🤩
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Haha glad you liked that part 😂 took me a little bit to get right.
Bring any half decent fleet and pilot a harbinger and you can kill a zig in no time.
Harbinger pretty saucy ship aye? What do you build it with
@@PapaCheddar I normally go mining blaster to heavy blaster to phase lance depends on my progression. It's the best thing to use agaisnt phase ships.
Fair enough aha. May give that a shot
I don't think you had any beam weapons there, so Advanced Optics wouldn't be doing anything...
I'd have to check but I'm pretty sure there is verbage on the weapons saying they count as beam weapons.
I could be wrong 😂 but im like 69% sure. If not... Then im a dummy and i wasted some OP haha
@@PapaCheddar they count as energy weapons for stat modifiers
So it definitely was a wasted mod then lol 😅
Lets just keep this between the 3 of us...
@@PapaCheddar Beam weapons are notified further down (BEAM)
3:04 Where did you find that Weapons Cache? I’ve beaten the Ziggurat but I can’t find that Weapons Cache.
From the center just go towards the too right corner. It will be between the two points. Good luck and godspeed!
Man i just done ziggy quest time to make Phase squad
Phase squad is a super squad
I always phase squad thanks to NSO mod. "Cause nothing beats no one see me do piracy so it doesn't count"
kek advanced optics with no beams
10/10 would zigg again
[rly tho, tachyons + phase lances + max caps and no dissipation just end a bitch with anchor dumping flux every dive. +1 if you have ship+weapon pack for light phase lances on the small slots too]
If i did that i definitely had a reason for it... I can't remember that far back 😅 but i had a reason!!!
@@PapaCheddar kek
I do wonder, why not use plasma cannons on the large hardpoints? aren't those one of the best things for burst damage?
Id have to look again but it was either OP limitations or maybe i didn't have them. But I'm pretty sure i did haha. So probably OP with all the other stuff i threw on there.
Plasma cannons have amazing sustained damage but pulse lasers have better burst damage.
Burst lasers are usually limited by their magazine needing to recharge. But thats not an issue with Cheese
Oddysey is a godtier ship if in good hands
Facts
How does it do against the [REDACTED] on those blue star shunt things?
Good question. I wanted to add that into the video but I couldn't find another one. Though after the fact I did find the second one right next to my first... When I searched I went counter clockwise... Had I gone clockwise it would have been in the video lol.
Planning on doing another add on against the shunty boys 😂
Deploying your squishiest ships I the front was painful to watch.
But it works 😎
A single afflicter would have made that a easier fight.
It's been a while since I last played. What would the afflicter do?
What are the blue things it shoots? Are they integrated into the ship? I got the zig but I didn't try it much.
Guessing you're referring to the motes. Its the zigs special ability with F. Hitting F they rush to where your cursor is and I brlieve they do a fair bit of emp damage.
Same as the purple ones during the actual fight.
@@PapaCheddar thanks a lot for the reply. I am a newbie and I use the ships on autopilot. I never seen it shoot the blue things, got disappointed and stored it. It was so powerful when I fought it.
No problem! Happy to help.
Yeah once it becomes a friendly ship they change color. The zig is super powerful imo. Can solo darn near anything if played right.
If you get some piloting practice in, every ship will do better when player controlled lol. Sometimes the AI will be silly, especially depending on what type of officer you got haha.
How to beat the ziggurat in 3 easy steps:
1. spam dooms
2. drop 20 ish mines at once
3. profit
😂 that'd probably work very well lol. I suck at doom piloting
The midline station is kinda a joke tho.
🤣 it is. But i had a vendetta
But what about Doritos? :^)
I couldn't find any 😅 and ran short on recording time unfortunately lol.
Ahem... But id... Totally stomp those... Doritos... Ahem... For sure! They are lucky i didn't find em! Ahem...
Wat if you have 3 ? Off this ship
Sorry, what? Haha
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Most powerful ship in the base game certainly.
Need to try and find the strongest modded ship meow haha.
@@PapaCheddar Bro, id watch this video...i have several in mind but would be welcome too see a good in depth review.
That'd be fun. My down fall is my inexperience with all the mods currently lol. I'd have to play around with them all a good bit.
Zebra ship
It does have some nice classic zerbraesque stripes lol. I always think mantaray 😂
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1 second away from making a wish!
'do battle with the hardest ship in the game'
You know the [REDACTED] exists right?
I dunno, I found ziggy easy compared to [REDACTED]
Maybe "one of" the hardest should have been the slogan haha. With the right fleet anything can be easy though.
Personally i find phase ships the most annoying to fight 😅. Though my first go against tesseracts it was down to me in an onslaught, a legion and am apogee against the final extremely fast little section... Ohhhhh man was the equally if not more annoying haha. Fun though, but holy balls they can be hard to hit...