The Difference Between Socialism, Communism, and Marxism Explained by a Marxist
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- Опубліковано 17 лют 2017
- socialism101.com/
Ever wondered what the actual difference between socialism and communism were? Well wonder no longer!
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the more i learn the less i understand
Seriously 🤣
@@derrick2181 ua-cam.com/video/bufHojkoGtw/v-deo.html
Its always easy to criticize the weak
Best comment here
lmaooo sorry man but this video couldn't be more clear, I think you may have a learning disability
Derrick survivor bias be like:
"Capitalism is when lots of iphone. Socialism is when some iphone. Communism is when no iphone."
-Karl Marx, 1960
“What I never said that”
-Karl Marx 1961
@@renss2072 “he totally said that”
-Aristotle 1962
"If you don't like communism you're not black"
-Karl Marx probably
@@bobskets8702 "If you don't call everyone you don't like a marxist, You're not white."
- Donald Trump
Socialism is when no new iphone anymore
Props to the guy who made this when he pronounced the full nazi name in german without breaking a sweat
well, it wasn't perfect, but yes, it was pretty good
It is NSDAP
National
Socialist
Deuchland (German)
Arbeiten (Workers)
Party
In short NAZY.
The main problem is that people confuse social with socialism. Public health care, a public pension system, workers' rights and state welfare are social, but have absolutely nothing to do with socialism. You don't become a socialist state just because you have something like that. Pretty much every country in Western Europe has all that, but most wouldn't even begin to call themselves socialists.
Thats what he said in the video
@@palatasikuntheyoutubecomme2046 He also conflates socialism with social democracy when Europe today is the result of social democrats shooting socialists dead (eg Luxemburg) from 1917 until 1945, then operating mandatory capitalism under 80 years of US military occupation and capitalist nation building.
I disagree. We only have these things because of the "left" surge after Das Capital landed on those book shelves
@@tompitman8672 Public health care and a public pension system were introduced in Germany by Otto von Bismarck who was the German chancellor from 1867 to 1871 and he was anything but left, rather the opposite. He introduced that to improve the conditions of German factory workers and that had nothing to do with Das Kapital, as he strongly opposed that book.
@@tompitman8672 This is ignorant. Communists fought social democracy (eg German Gotha and Erfurt programs.) They were not even invited to first Reichstag, UKNHS is from capitalist economist John Keynes, Europe's social state is from capitalist US Marshall Plan and conservative economist Ragnar Frisch, etc.
Sweden called, they said to stop calling them socialists.
Sweden says a lot of things. Like, "We're Neutral" in the late 1930's. Just because they say it, it doesn't make it true.
Insanitypepper There are no nordic socialist countries. They are all capitalist or market economies. Having a few social policies doesn't make a country socialist.
Being or not being neutral 90ish years ago, has nothing to do with today.
Sweden selling bofors licence like crazy xd
@@huejanus5505 they are what bernie sanders is.
@@huejanus5505 How wrong you are. They are still bitching about Columbus and the other "white" explorers, even if they weren't all "white". That's 500 years ago, so 90 years ago is like yesterday.
The difference in these terms should be taught in schools, especially the US
@@tylerfrederick650 I'm willing to give anything a try as long as it gets me far away from Donald Trump. That's what happens when you bully liberals for four years, you create first-time democratic voters.
What I was taught about thies subjects was that the government owns everything and no one has a say. And was so far from Karl Marx original ideas that they were twisted in to the strong arm tactics by the governments to make its citizens comply and surrender everything it appears that that is not true I guess what my teachers taught was not the correct definitions. Just a point of view, and opinions only not truth. Star trek the next generation is about as close to marks ideals. As they come. But I was also taught about anuther version of thies things too. That everyone was peaceful and equal no one was above our below anuther every one was equal and everyone had a say.but of course that kind of Communism or socialism is impossible because humans love greed power money and control and fear and want to be above instead of treating everybody equally so that is why the perfect society with no war nobody has more money than the other and peaceful and equal could never exist in this world. As much as we would love it to.
@@tylerfrederick650 And if gov add more regulation, it will become communism?
@@tylerfrederick650 like in Cuba where illiteracy went from 40% to almost 0%.
@@tylerfrederick650 I thought you where talking on education. Where the literary rate went from 85 to 97 percent from 1981 to 2018. The economy of the country struggles cause of the US sanctions.
I'm a retired law teacher. I never taught politics, but your video here was simple clear and the graphics were fantastic. I learned a lot. Thank you. ❤
Please explain for us non retired law teachers.
It would be like dressing a pig in a top hat and tuxedo. The pig remains a pig.
He misled you about anarchy just as all the Socialist academics always do.
Perfect point!
completely agree
Funnily enough, "social democrat" used to be a catch-all term for Marxists. Marx, Engels, and Lenin before the second Russian revolution, all occasionally called themselves social democrats, after the Social Democratic Party of Germany which Marx helped to create in 1875.
Don't mess up more the people 😄
Americans: they’re all the same
indians don't even understand any of these terms
@@zzz-vt1br That hits hard bro...People here are just too much ignorant...
@@koushiksen7790 or your just to soft snow flake
America: Damn commies!
@@zzz-vt1br you are being unfair on India. It takes time to progress and there are a lot of Indians to progress.
India is on the way up economically India and Pakistan have both achieved a lot since independence
maybe the real communism was the friends we made along the way
@Green Mamba Games bro damn it was a joke no need to go full power mode
@Green Mamba Games what would happen is that there would be a crash without social structures. If we had no social structures, companies would shut down because there arent any billionaires to hold its shares. There wouldn't be any scientists in the end.
@rob it’s easier to find the blues if they group together a lot
@rob ??????
Green Mamba Games overpopulation? Liberals changed their tune on that after the 1990’s . Now they say we need more immigrants or we will be underpopulated. Same thing with global cooling- went to global warming and now it’s just climate change
Thanks for the video. If you do make another video about this topic, can I suggest some more practical examples? Cheers :-)
Interesting that, during the Civil War, Horace Greeley’s New York Herald Tribune employed Karl Marx as a contributor. Paradoxically, Dr. Marx apparently found solid common ground with a prominent Republican(!) politician espousing Marx’s view that labor held greater value than capital in building or rebuilding a nation. The politician’s name was Abraham Lincoln.
“Stop quoting stuff i most definitely didn’t say”
~ Karl Marx - 1950 or sth
“Marxism sucks”
(c) Karl Marx - 1969 b.c.
@@pwrup call me a marxist cuz i believe this😎
I cant believe you spelled carl marks wrong smh my head.
@@robertmcnamara1642 if carl marks would've been raper, his name'd be Lil Marxxx
karl* oh god no i spelled his name wrong, what a terrible marksist I am
"Anarchists and Marxists can often get along to achieve a common goal"
*laughs in leftist infighting*
true i see a lot of animosity on both sides and part of it is what happened in Spain and Russia where the reds teamed up with the white army and the fascist to take down the black army of there countries
@@adt_10terrarian5 You're standing in the way of leftist unity!
I know we need to focus on a common goal and stop in fighting we need to understand that until we fix America and educate people we cannot become a good country or a good world we cannot be all communist or socialist or whatever
@@asunflower7993 Tankies betray the revolution, and kill anarchists. They create totalitarian regimes worse than the capitalist countries they overthrow.
I will never align myself with tankies. If the revolution happens in America, they're the ones facing the wall this time. Anarchists outnumber them.
@@asunflower7993 Fuck tankies. I fucking hate tankies.
9:44 That's an awesome way to visualize it all! I wouldn't know where to start on making a chart like that
"The state" sure as hell are not "the people as a whole" as said in the video,
but rather, are only a select group of people within the whole whose power is obtained not via the vote of the individual citizens, but only by the power structure within the system. THAT is communism: The power structure voting in favor of the power structure, all others be damned. And they can't be voted out, because that is the whole point of communism. Very simply, if given the chance ... actual real people would never knowingly vote for communist leaders when other options are available in a democratic system. The point is ... no other options ARE available because their democracy is not genuine. Democracy means you rule yourself via selected representatives. But Communism means you have NO real representatives.
Unfortunately, 'socialist' and 'socialism' have become political buzz words in the US, used without any real meaning behind them.
"bIdEn Is A sOcIaLiSt"
@@LumiNyte we wish
my friend called kamilah Harris a socialist...utterly disturbed
Just like racist
LITERALLY the EXACT same thing for Fascism and Fascists... goes both ways "komrade"
I’m so glad you mentioned Star Trek under communism, I feel like I’m the only one who sees it sometimes
The claim that money doesn’t exist in Star Trek is such a bold faced lie. Look at Deep Space Nine, Gold pressed Latinum. Ferengi.
Shmoney
The idea that communism would work is science fiction...just like star trek
@@anymaru That's just Earth that doesn't have money other species do
Hence this clip between Nog and Jake
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Ah yes.....so Marxism works on TV shows about the imaginary future.
Bravo! Since I was Born and educated in a country that named itself a socialist (ones was called Jugoslavija) I listened a lot of political sciense courses with an emphasis on marxism, so I consider myself not completely uninformed on these topics. Nevertheless, I have rarely come across on explanation so concise and accurate as in these short presentation.
I was also born, educated and worked in Yugoslavia as you.
Why do you think it was only named socialist?
You could've have mentioned something like the fact that there are fascistic movements (like NazBols or Strasserrists) who, unlike most Fascisms that are capitalist, are Socialist, further showing the quantity of ideologies possible.
National Socialism isn’t really… socialism. Other than by name, they don’t share a lot of qualities because they’re complete opposite wings of politics.
"Socialism is when the government does stuff, and when the government does a lot of stuff, it's communism."
~Marx or something idk
Carl marks
robot rock is typing....
That’s literally the exact opposite of what was said in the video
@@weslierossmal1747 it’s a joke lmao
Socialism is when the government does 100% of things.
Capitalism is when the government does 99.99% of things.
am I right comrade?
Feel like no one in the comments even heard what this guy said
@Chidi Akara That explains the rest of the comment section. And here I am an idiot for still having hope.
@@maverick4900 facts
Oh I did and I won't even more capitalism now
@@ronniehopper2726 *want
@@deviantd.6740 I want more capitalism after he explained it he didn't make it sound any better
A lot of anarchists, most of us, have a transition between capitalism and communism, it's called anarchosyndicalism
Aye. Glad someone mentioned it.
The real problem with defining socialism is that you begin well after several assumptions are made about human interaction. This creates a sense that each individual category of socialism is itself of a similar complexity to much more broad terms like capitalism. In a practical sense this results in a method of goalpost and retreat when collectivism is addressed at a fundamental level.
Topic: Marxism, Socialism, Communism, Capitalism
Me: Aneurysm
Nice meme.
Explosively bloody?
This comment is da bomb 💣💥
Lol
It's not that hard to understand dude.
The only thing I know for sure about socialism is that if you try to define it, someone will show up to tell you that you're wrong
You're
@@bloodymortifying yur
you
ThatGuyWithHisHat there are many versions for sure. It’s like the Christian denominations all trying to say they’re the right one. This is true for pretty much all economic systems, not just socialism
@@zigmazero2879 yu
What?!?! This is gold!❤ I just love the first 2 min. Make a short! This is awesome, you gotta sub!
That's why i find useful to just call Social Democracy as Social Liberalism. Because it strayed away so much from any part of the socialist umbrella that shouldn't even have the "democratic" term attached to it since it bows down to capital so intensely.
Social Liberalism already exists. It's a liberal ideology that also endorses civil rights. It's not a socialist ideology that endorses a mixed market
@@Writer_Productions_MapAll social democracies are social liberal, which moots this new term you present. Social democracies all guarantee capitalism and this is what liberal refers to in liberal democracy. All social democracies are liberal democracies with decades of guaranteed capitalism in their history.
@@soulcapitalist6204 Isn't the definition of Social Democracy like mixed markets and stuff? Not just Social Liberalism with a different name?
@@Writer_Productions_Map Social democracies all guarantee capitalism - private and market based means of production - and have done so for years. The social component of social democracy refers to welfare and other state services, mainly for poor.
@@soulcapitalist6204 Look, there's a video called "The Difference Between Social Democracy and Social Liberalism Explained" or something, and I think you should see it
Why is no one talking about “sexy learning disabilities”?
Exactly😂😂😂
"Hey, boo. Yo' dyslexia lookin' real goo' right now..."
Sexlexia 😔
To test whether you're paying attention. 😃
omg, arknight player😂😂haven't seen that for a long time outside of the arknights community
Oh boy do I love watching neutral and informative political content on the internet! I sure hope nothing wacky and uncharacteristic takes place in the comments section.
This comment is too good for this comments section. Worth the scroll
ehhhhh it wasnt entirely "neutral" i got the weird sense this dood is fairly pro socialism and communism to some extent..
@@hyp3r-systems838 he is, go to hell.
>neutral
One is only neutral if others see them as neutral, one cannot consider themselves neutral, because there is no historical, political, economical, scientific way of defining what is good an evil. It is either given to us via religion or completely subjective.
If you think that a marxists explaining to you the difference between different leftist theories is neutral, then america is gunna split one way or another.
Not neutral at all lol
I used to here the term “Maoist” in reference to Sendoro Luminoso (shining path), FARC rebels and sometimes the Communist rebels in the Philippines. Anyone know any clues or definitive terms?
r u swedish or norwegian? or tysk? i cant make out the accent
"The goal of Socialism is Communism." - Lenin
And Marx... " Socialism is a result of capitalism "
@Zhào Liǔ agreed
@Zhào Liǔ Capitalism is not fair, that's part of the reason Marx wrote what he did in the first place.
about natural though, nature can be cruel and unjust and in many ways not something one should want to emulate. the fact that capitalism came about naturally does not make it better.
@Zhào Liǔ And how exactly is exploiting other people's labor value for your own profit "good"?
The issue is that you are barely rewarded for being a worker. certainly some of your value goes to you but the overwhelming majority gets stolen by a capitalist.
@Zhào Liǔ did I say capitalism wasn't the most natural or fair system? Wdf is wrong with you
Him: anarchists and orthodox Marxists can generally get along
Shrek: like that’s ever gonna happen
Sick reference bro
Anarkiddie: We did it tankie we finished a revolution
Tankie: I'm sorry
@Tashawn Sheffield this is a genuine question so please don't think i'm attacking you, but, what are your opinions on the riots going on? good cause, bad cause? do you think it'll change anything, or we'll go into anarchy eventually? or a revolution?
i mean i like marxists a lot generally even if we don't fully see eye to eye in some aspects
it's marxist leninists that i can't stand
Someone explain the joke to me...
Well done, mate! Geat work in simple terms. Subscribed.
5:10 Was that a futurama reference?
"communism is when gobernment venzuela no iphone" -Carl Mark
BUT VUVUZULA BAD!!!!!
Karl Johnson
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Perfect!
Hollow
@@sooryan_1018 Lagre Saomrke
damn these comments are pissed off at someone just trying to explain what the terms mean
some of it was from the brainwashing we would get from the COLD WAR. Today they mix Capitalism with a strong social safety net as Communism. Then you say well I guess all are NATO allies are Communist I guess we lost the Cold War after all. Sheesh!
Geoffrey me when I’m drunk and have 2 braincells left:
Where?
Politics is a sensitive subject. Same for religion and sports.
Well he did a piss poor job and an over complicated one.
Let me simplify and fix his errors.
Marxism in all its forms is evil, which includes but not limited to marxism/socialism/fascism/communism/demonkkkrat-socialism/socialism-with-chineese-characteristics/democracy
To quote Vladimir Lenin 'democracy is Indispensable to socialism' and
'The goal of socialism is communism'
The only thing all marxists can agree on even though marxism has been tried is it 30 times now? i lose count. Is that true marxism has never really been tried.
Marxism in one form or another killed 100million people or more in the 20th century not including a single soldier killed in battle.
very informative, i lived in Australia and i can tell you that labourer pay similar to doctor and engineer and commonly pay more than what small businesses owner profit from their business. and yet nobody in here called themselves socialism.
I'm Australian (and a socialist). Now you've met one of us. BTW, most Australians are Soc Dems, rather than Dem Socs which is why the majority of us don't identify as socialists. I hope that helps.
Only a capitalist economy can result in high wages. It is impossible for socialist political economy to accomplish this.
Excellent video with an almost perfect delivery and explanation. Many thanks.
“ things they should teach Americans 101”
"And it is on purpose."
Amen
@Mr. 8-Bit Doggo how can he be biased all he says is what they are and that the rest of the world don't think Bernie Sanders is a socialist
@Mr. 8-Bit Doggo he doesn't present any arguments for or against he just I forms what the different socialist groups are
@MajorLeague he's a social democrat which is the same as Sweden his policies just advocate a more mixed economy than you already have
"Socialism is when the government does stuff"
- Karl Marx, 2018
Which stuff?
@@johnathanmandrake7240 seizing the means of production, laying a planned economy, establishing a dictatorship of the proletariat, adding collectivization.
@@a12475
Shifting the means of productions from one oligarchy to another, creating a beauracry, establishing a emperor, obliteration of the self and creation of a absolute view of the state.
So a recipe for disaster, got it.
@@johnathanmandrake7240 you have to be the dumbest fucking human in history to not understand this. go to fucking hell liberal
@@a12475 Pretty sure he’d be a conservative. Liberals usually support socialist ideals.
Social person: one who is generous with his/her own money and resources to help others
Socialist: one who is generous with other people's money and resources to help others
Excelente exposición, no mencionas sobre la distribución de esos ingresos entre el capital y el trabajo, cuanto se lleva el capital y cuanto se lleva el trabajador de cada categoría.
No one:
American boomers: Liberals, Socialists, and Democrats are the same
And these people vote
The GOP is based off of classical liberalism, therefore the American mainstream right is liberal. Since they consider liberals to be communists, they are communist. This means that Trump, Biden, and Sanders are all equally communist in their eyes.
Liberals: Drumf is a fascist.
@BoyTheCorgi
Attention Gamers, we have a degenerate Redditor replying to my comment.
@BoyTheCorgi
Yes.
We need to teach more about politics in schools if we are to have a politically conscious society that allows everyone to pitch in the government
the school system funded by the bourgeoisie won't allow that, they want compliant workers who won't question their authority. we need to teach class consciousness everywhere, inside and outside of school, through every subversive means possible. "each one teach one" as it is said
@@DiMadHatter It sounds like instead of people simply being conscious about how class works you want school to just blatantly teach Marxism. I don’t need to get into why Marxism is a dangerous idea to be teaching. You can take a look at the history books for all the evidence you need. The first piece of evidence is evident in the language and tone of your comment. 3 quarters of Marxists are fueled not by the desire for the good of everyone as a whole (which is what Marxism is realistically trying to achieve) but instead it seems they are fueled by a spite and hatred for the upper class or anyone who might have more “things” than they do.
@@DiMadHatter conspiracy theory, much?
@@supremelordoftheuniverse5449 That's not a conspiracy theory, that's kind of just how it is. In the US at least, It's pretty clear that massive corporations have the power to influence the government and its endeavors, or the views of the people themselves. Corporations benefit from the people being poorly or inaccurately educated, because it provides them their workforce, and fuels their wealth. So since it's in their best interest to maintain that system, and because they have massive amounts of wealth (aka power) to influence that, it would be incredibly difficult to actually enact change.
@@archdukefranzferdinand4429 now THAT is the conspiracy theorist at work!
Fun fact the countries we provide the MOST foreign aid to, give THEIR citizens free health care, AND free education
"Anarchists and Marxists generally can get along and work together" You know, *except to save Spain*
Makhno: nooo, you cant just encircle the black army in Crimea and destroy them
Red Army: haha anarchists go ded
Everyone else: intellectual responses with actual background knowledge
Me: Oof burn
In all fairness, the nationalists thought they were saving spain from a violent mob of socialists.
I dont think amerca has any real nationalists or if there is they have realised if they give the socialists enough rope they will hang themselves in a fake hate crime. the libertarians are the ones that would get support.
You know, like one word that sums that up without your help
"this politics thing isn't that hard, I could be an MP"
"this morning Tommy was found 'mind blown' in the toilet with a phone in his lap."
Lmao true true
he had heard that the premium grade lizard juice was on sale at the Wal-Mart.
POV: you run against hillary clinton
thank you so much for making that diagram! very helpful to understand the difference in terms
I’ve been on this for so long idk why I can’t fully grasp these concepts
I like how some people in the comments are saying this guy just overcomplicates and misinforms. And then they tell their own version of the 3 topics and you can tell they've sprinkled their own blatantly quite negative (or maybe even positive, I haven't scrolled too far) opinion about these ideologies. This dude's literally telling them as they are, even as far as to dive a bit deeper what Socialism entails and what it technically isn't tied to. Politics be like this sometimes. But so is the piss poor education some of us receive about this stuff.
I'd say he's undercomplicating it.
He goes by the Left Right axis but ignores the Authoritarian Libertarian one.
Also you can't be socialist without democracy. That was just Soviet propaganda, as socialism is defined by collective control.
@@NyJoanzy That's what he said, they where not socialists because you can't be socialist without democracy, true socialism is democratic, do you really believe that every person that supports socialism wants to live with a fucked up government like the Soviet Union ruling over? No of course not
@@cefirodewinter9086 the Soviet union was a centralised democracy.
@@4thinternational283 which is a fancy word for "One Party Dictatorship"
@@blazoraptor3392 yes, the Soviet union was a single party state.
God this is the most easily digestible version of this I’ve seen. I understood most these already, but still incredibly well done!
dont blaspheme
100% agree.
Excellent video.
I had a rather good understanding of all this as well.. but this video has filled all the missing gaps I didn't even know I had, even better defying what I already did know.
I send this video to like everyone that i ever talk about politics with.
The dream of a Marxist utopia is earth during the time when Star Trek takes place. No money. No greed. No poverty. Each receives according to their talent, skill, and drive. The reality of a Marxist utopia is the Borg collective.
@@davidpaz9389 it’s not a utopian dream tho. Learn marxist dialectics
As for Cuba I know for a fact they could not manufacture nails ... some girl from the next block fell in love and married a fellow from Cuba and went there. The mother of the girls used make them packages with various stuff, on some Christmas she send them few pounds of nails.
Government doesn't pay for services, the people do
5:20 what they teach you
8:25 what you have to write in exam
Everybody: Now it all make sense.
Me: Now i am even more confused.
The test isn't confusing
The test:
Communism is a classless, stateless society. Socialism is a society trying to achieve communism by using the state to end class society (the workers now control the means of production and the capitalists no longer control production or hoard wealth). Capitalism is a dictatorship of the capitalist class. Socialism is a dictatorship of the working class. Communism, once again, is the stage at which the state is no longer necessary once there are no economic classes and societies can produce solely for use rather than exchange. This stage can probably only exist after capitalism no longer exists anywhere in the world.
@@lentoperoavanzo4007
Under capitalism, man oppreses man. Under socialism is the other way around
-A.O.Cortez
TheCarloCarlone
The important difference is that capitalism seeks to perpetuate the oppression. Socialism seeks to end the system of oppression altogether, along with itself as a state.
Simple analogy, but capitalism is being robbed at gunpoint and the mugger telling you it’s just the way things are. Socialism is shooting the mugger and then destroying both the guns.
@@lentoperoavanzo4007 actually one is being robbed by a person and the other is being robbed by an entire community
No mention of how well any on the left side of the screen do without the benefit of the right side.
This is definitely a good starting point for someone who is only familiar with the capitalist framing of these terms, but there are a few innacuracies. First, the USSR was not socialist, as the workers did not own the means of production. Second, anarchists can still support a state if the state is justified by the material conditions. There's also the part where you equivocate the state with the community, when the distinction is both obvious and important. Despite the authoritarian bias it'll at least broaden the conceptions of someone stuck in the rigid capitalist view.
Collectivized means of production is controlled by the collective government. Capitalism is the proposal that individuals like workers may own the means of production.
Anarchists do not support a state. "Material conditions" is marxist and not anarchist talk. There will never be stateless material conditions. Marx who made up the term makes it out to be impossible and untestable - utopian - that any state will melt away from collectivism (in his Critique of the Gotha Program part 1)
@@soulcapitalist6204 I'm more of a classical Marxist but I find myself agreeing with Anarchists more than revisionary post-Marxists like MLs or Trotskyists. I don't see how a state can wither away leaving a communist society without a process of collectivization.
@@diedoktor ML is orthodox marxism, just praxis of the idea. Marx claims devolution of the state will be utopian, eg requiring labor to become life's primary want among the members of communist society prior to such independence from the state.
@@soulcapitalist6204 There's nothing orthodox about centralizing power and taking control of the means of the means of production away from workers.
@@diedoktor Marx called for centralized dictatorship between his "Address of the Central Committee to the Communist League", "Critique of the Gotha Program" (parts 1,4), and The Civil War in France. Unlike yourself, Lenin (and I) actually read what Marx wrote. Lenin followed it like rote. You may review his own contention to this effect in his "State and Revolution"
This commentary section is a nightmare.
At least nightmares aren't stupid
Normal for UA-cam and the internet.
Well. As bad as it is, it still falls way short when compared with commie countries.
@@shenghan9385 Thanks for proving the point, bozo.
The comments are exact proof of capitalist degredation of the average human mind. Who needs independent thought when you got the TV telling you what to think!
" _Capitalism_ is when *I* phone, _Socialism_ is when *WE* phone, _Communism_ is when *OUR* phone ."
*-* Carel Marks 2020
Is that Steve Carel?
The concept of I is rejected by Socialism.
Capitalism is when iPhone *Trademark of Apple Inc. in property rights and you don't technically own your phone*
@@AG-zv9jo thats actually comunism not calitalism
@@AG-zv9jo That sounds like something you'd see in a communist society
"Here is OUR new IPHONE citizen of the authoritarian slave state generic soviet republic. REMEMBER the government of this glorious nation owns OUR IPHONE"
I honestly wonder how good or fast the healthcare system in Sweden is. Here in Czech republic and Slovakia where I was born we have a free healthcare (well...free...paid by our taxes) and I have to say I'm pretty disappointed. Waiting times for a specialist are ridiculous and the quality is horrible in most places. Best doctors I have ever come in contact were private doctors, best procedures I ever had were carried out by private clinics and so...I'm pretty sceptical of free healthcare. I think a hybrid or the system they have in Switzerland would be the best option.
Thank you, very informative.
I love how we have to learn about this stuff in school but at the same time schools dont bother teaching us.
They want us to be dumb
Schools are taken over by communists
@@jasurjasur9762
Wrong. Conservatives like Pranger U want us to be divided and fascist.
@@itsbeyondme5560 ironic
@@itsbeyondme5560 Fascism is socialist, just like the Nazis, PragerU is totally the opposite.
By the way, if no one else mentioned it, Sweden is NOT a socialist country.
It's in the video...
When you want attention so you put atheist in your name for no reason
We’re not capitalist either though, mixed economy
Sweden is a socialist country. And there are basically no differnence between socialism, communsim and marxism. Same shit different word.
@@adorabasilwinterpock6035 Sweden is capitalist
Thank you for clarifying that.,
Fascism & corporatism is the same thing: The merging of the corporate world & the government.
The only difference is which side forced the merging. Fascism is when the government does it. Corporatism is when the corporate world does it.
communism is when my pals give me some lays chips frick yeah
ネイアン You mean air? Oh fuck I just wooooshed myself
ネイアン Fuck you
No communism means nobody gets chips because all the potato farmers died
no communism is were Lays brand doesn't exist at all and you get government provided bag of air with potato chip crumbs
Except, communism is stateless. Instead, Lays *would* exist. It would just be a worker's co-op like the Mondragon Corporation.
this guys accent sounds like a british person who lived in america for a long time. and he lives in sweden. im cofused,
Quite a lot of people who are from scandinavia get this accent. I do have it my self.
hmm I'm curious do british people have simmilar accent to scandinavian people cause britain was invaded by Normans. Could they have so much influence on english language?
The Normans were French, you mean the vikings who invaded from Scandinavia. The English Language has been hugely influenced by the languages of the people who invaded such as Latin from the Romans, old English from the Saxons, old French from the Normans and old Norse from the Scandinavian Vikignar who invaded. This is why English speakers can work out the meaning of some words from the modern versions of these languages as each has had a profound effect on the English Language as a whole.
We don't dub movies other than for small kids. We use subtitles and learn proper English. That's why almost all of us are multilingual :)
scandinavian intonation is similar to people from northern UK. northerners and scandinavians tend to elongate each syllable. even certain words have scandi origin i.e. in scottish dialect and norweigan barn = children.
The spectrum of the forms of government is better visualized as linear.
The TNG writers claimed that the Federation used no money, but the crew would frequently end up in Riker's quarters playing poker, with something.
The lesson in this video is about socialism, but sadly my brain is an introvert
LMAO YOUR PROFILE PICTURE
"Anarchists and Marxists generally can get along"
Stalin: unfortunatly for you, history will not see it that way
@Hinters his comment still stands, a lot of people ascribe Stalin as a marxist therefore history does in fact see it that way.
@Hinters He was a really good Marxist. He did really good for his ideology. That's why it escalated so much.
Just cause history sees it that way doesn’t make it true, “marxist” was communists disguised as marxism.
Both have a penchant for arson.
Many so called anarchists end up forming hierarchies of their own and then governments with rules.....true anarchism isnt possible in the long run. Anarchy is just a tool used by leaders of various sides to bring about chaos when theres chaos evil thrives and its easier for bad men to convince good people to give up their freedoms in the name of security.
Thanks for all the info. It's very good!
I’m for individualism… love and let live
This means nothing ❤
The fact that social democracy and democratic socialism mean completely different things is probably the biggest sign we're running out of ideas how to make consistent sense of it.
Socialists struggle with this, but not the rest of the world. Socialists have run out of ideas in the 19th century and exist as a testament to the effectiveness of demagogy and cheap word tricks on stupid or mentally troubled people in society. This describes Marx's career and the sick minded folks who engaged in the DSA convention, nazism, the soviet takeover of Russia, etc.
Either way, a claim to be socialist is a claim to violate basic human rights in the economy. Democratic Socialism is mostly a US term of DSA party and the Progressive Bernie Sanders - these are the most prominent of anything ever labeled this way in world history. Sanders proposes a state takeover of healthcare such that Americans and American insurance companies cannot pay directly for medical care. This puts little daylight between democratic socialists and national socialists of Germany. Right away, in 1933, the nazis pursued socialism just like this, placing the state between the autonomous transactions between members of the public (eg commodity exchange act).
Dude, wdym, both are in green corner of coordinates
I mean social democratics used to be democratic socialists, and so they also called themselves socialists. but because they turned out not to be anymore, they largely changed their name to "social democratic" - so decidedly not socialist.
THANK YOU .
The difference is vague as hell. Everyone knows that they’re different, but everyone has different interpretation of how they’re different. But in practice, those terms are basically the same.
I'm interested why so many disliked this video. It's very informative. Is it because they dislike communism/socialism...?
Or they like it
It's mainly Americans from cold war propaganda brainwashing
@Moolook how so?
@@SW-kr9fl American here... When and where has socialism ever been good and actually worked? Hey never... Where is it being pushed again? The idea that social democracy isn't going to fail is liberal, socialist b.s.. Spread by globalists and academics.
@@anthonyoer4778 Yeah, sure, those globalists and academics, people who study the subject their intire life and NONE of them know what they're saying, right? Who knows are ordinary people influenced by imperialism propaganda to maintain a status quo that benefits a small group of people. Dude, between one or the other, I'll go with the academics.
And capitalism sure is working very well, right? Ask to third world country people in extreme misery around the world. Or you think it has to be this way and it's IMPOSSIBLE to not exist a considerable amount of people suffering hard? Perhaps a third way between capitalism and socialism...
Given the authoritarian nature of Cuba is it really democratic? And given the distribution to party is it actually for the people?
Or have I been misinformed about Cuba?
Bro thanks so much for this video, my politics teacher actually showed us your video
"Obama, a Socialist Communist"
If only Obama were that based.....
"Trump is Fascist"
If only 😔
@ Heinmann , Your German
@@thekhans2823 you're*; unless he owns a German and in that case it would be slavery
sure, but he will never be anything but a liberalist.
@@koushikdas5097 I mean he is trampling peoples democratic right to protest
Sweden: "no you can't sell your grandma for profit"
Sweden in 2020: "about that grandma..."
The wonders of the Third Way
L o L !!
@@ghevisartor6005 yeah, they were denying care for the elderly so that they can focus on the youth. This actually happened in most countries were health care isn't privatized.
@@that1guy246 including Australia. Public healthcare can't handle crisis or multiculturalism, the load is too great.
@@that1guy246 If that is true, it's remarkably "unswedish" of sweden.
You forgot market socialism, which can fall under democratic socialism or just revisionist marxism
Pretty sure with Communism and socialism you just make up into find words as you go along to whatever suits your needs at the time.
Once it becomes unfavorable change it, rinse and repeat
I think this is why idiots always mix these up. It's easier to accuse any economic idealogy left of you as "communism" than to tackle the actual complexity of the situation.
Like this idiot?
Vladimir Lenin
@@DJVARAO Yup.
@@leseure9967 So you know better than Lenin... really?🤣 man, you guys are funny.
@@DJVARAO Eat shit. I'm not going to waste my time debating with someone whose ability to determine the easily distinguishable differences between socialism and communism is so minuscule that they have to use Vladimir Lenin as a crutch. The only funny one is you because you obviously can't think for yourself and a laughing emoji is never going to change that.
@@DJVARAO The goal of socialism is to achieve a society in which the means of production are commonly owned. Communism is a school of socialism.
@JaneFonda1942 Apex Clan Rabbits aren't well known to be fascists,
Him: Generally, Orthodox Marxists and Anarchists can get along
Me: I mean, Orthodox Marxists can barely get along with each other sometimes, so...
Bold of you to assume Anarchists can get along themselves
@@orion2116 **John Zerzan has symbolically rejected the chat**
Orion SkinnerLopata we all get along when it comes time to mock the ancaps
funny that you think there's no infighting between anarchists either
the amount of shit i have seen thrown between anti civ anarchists and anarcho transhumanists, amazin
Are you really a leftist if you don't spend at least 30 minutes a day on infighting with other leftists?
I would like to see you update this and include Venezuela in your discussion.
alright then. lets also include brazil then? isnt it just fair to show a fully functioning capitalist country that fails to better the lifes of people and compare it to a country that is just lost overall and socialism cannot lower the inflation because the people in charge are one big family? the awnser is that you can go to the industrial revolution of great britain and go work in the coal mines. would you like that? ofc not but that is capitalism at its purest form. you cannot compare that to a failing state that never had a chance to beginn with.
Amazing overview!
I have a learning disability, and this video was near-percectly understandable!
It is also wrong. Don't fall for propaganda my friend.
@@flagermusen Well, the most modern way of disproving something is by saying it is wrong and nothing else, so I commend you for conforming to majority rules.
See a lot of hardcore Communists don't like the presentation of this video. They don't like to believe Anarchists are actually Communists as well as they seem to disagree with the flowchart style of describing communism. They disagree that Marxism-Leninism or Maoism are forms of Orthodox Marxism and they outright call Trotskyism revisionism. There's a lot of really good information here, but the hardcore guys are kinda like purists and don't like to be lumped in with other groups that don't share their exact ideals.
@@flagermusen it was a very shallow explanation
@@johnnywaffles2482 how can a 11min explanation not be shallow, it's meant to be the basics
I actually had no idea that a communist society would be one without money or a state. The fact that China is dominated by the CCP yet they buy and sell things has had me confused. Thank you for posting this video, I learned quite a lot
Yeah, generally speaking education about what these political/economic terms actually mean is pretty terrible. Regardless of where anyone sits on the political spectrum it makes it pretty difficult to have an honest, good faith debate on these different ideologies when 90%+ of people have such massive misconceptions on the topic. I definitely remember being very surprised when I found out what socialism and Communism were actually defined as because I had unironically bought into the "socialism is when the government does stuff" meme 😅
China steals blueprints and ideas through hacking. that's why you see them selling things that are copies of more expensive things.
why spend billions of dollars developing a technology when you can steal it.
Yeah they are far from communist
Modern-day China is communist in the same way that the Democratic Republic of the Congo is a democratic republic.
Which is to say, not at all, if you spend even five seconds analyzing what's actually happening in the country.
You can watch Bay Area videos, he talk a lot about China.
Great video, and also really enjoying the info on the website. Not that it's such a big deal, but maybe you can make a revision there?
On the basics of socialism page, there is one point that says:
"There is also a ton of evidence that humans, for millions of years, operated more or less communally,", - Im not a big expert on this, but I don't think "millions" of years is correct there, more like hundreds of thousands. Like I said not a big deal, and I'm not even sure I'm right, but it might be nice to check that, just so nitpicky idiots like me don't annoy you about it :P
Eh, there's sort of a blurry line for when it "started"
All pushed by one type of "people" they rhyme with shoes.
An overwhelming majority of people in the US who are critical of Socialism can't even define what it is. How can you possibly critique something you don't even understand.
Because there is still a large amount of 50s style attitude, which had comical hatred against communism and socialism
@@Ulyanov.11 Exactly.
Half the US Population still havent moved on from the Red Scare nor the Cold War.
Sure but you're missing the more useful point. Socialism doesn't mean anything anymore, it's like "populism" or "people's party", it's just politisphere backwash that has a different taste depending on your perspective and upbringing, that people like to have semantic arguments over. If you want to talk about socioeconomic systems and human organization then you have to just look at what is actually happening. So we should start by just ditching words that have unfortunately become inherently confusing and say what we mean. To do that, of course, you would have to know what you mean first.
*Edit* btw I'm not saying nobody should say socialism anymore, lol, people should use whatever words they want as long as they are talking to people who understand what they mean - so communication is happening. The problem with these kinds of shape-shifting political curse words on something as wide as the internet or other public discourse is that people are coming with different definitions for these kinds of words, and therefore cross-group communication is not happening when political science terms are ubiquitous. Just my two cents
When your examples of socialism (The Soviet Union, China, Cuba, Vietnam etc) are corrupt, authoritarian states then it's no surprise when people oppose it (myself included).
"The definition of socialism is anti capitalism."
"The definition of capitalism is anti socialism"
Great. Thanks.
Yeah, you have a point. If that phrase had been said, that would be some pretty circular logic and wouldn't explain anything... so it's a good thing that they didn't say that, isn't it.
PokemonTom09 he did say it though
@@egeo9979 No, they didn't. They define socialism at 3:28
I think his point was that the two were mutually exclusive but I get your point
The Nazis hated capitalism ...hence the National Socialist part
@patrick : entirely my sentiments
Lately, it seems like people who claim to be communists or socialists know the absolute least about what that really means
This is a really nice unbiased video you got all the main points, and differences, right however there are more sects to Socialism and communism then just Marxism and it’s constituents but they’re really unimportant historically speaking. Love the video, you keep up the good work.
"The road to Communism go's through Socialism" Vladimir Lenin
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@@algrundau9441 They aren't socialist. Did you even watch the video. Literally NONE of those countries have any socialism or communism. They have taxation which is used for social purposes but that is benevolent capitalism.
@@algrundau9441 Didn't realise I was replying to your comments twice haha >.< but yeah in the US the 'right-wing' is entrenched against anything with social or universal in the name. Fiscally I think that under their current budget constraints the US would be in financial crisis if social programs were brought in suddenly, so I think they're being frugal, despite how uncaring it sounds. You could argue that they should spend less on military but considering the number of US enemies jockeying for power I don't think that's a good idea. The US and other UN nations are relied upon by the world for military aid and falling behind in that sector would be irresponsible and the result would be potentially catastrophic.
Anyway I do understand that conservative media portrays Sweden etc. as 'socialist hellholes' where you can't get a heart transplant or cancer removal without waiting until you die. (Which in some cases is true, I live in the UK where free healthcare has existed since the 1950s and queues are huge) but equally, labelling them as socialist is incorrect. But I notice the left call them socialist as well as a beacon of their ideology. It is all semantics, liberal is another term that is thrown around a lot and I think it's use is far too vague. Vague labels are the bane of modern society to be honest, everything from 'racist' to 'WMDs' to 'journalist' are just applied to anything these days :P
fuck both
@@umut967 fuck you ignorant capitalist
I’m not a Socialist myself or even agree with it, but thank you for making this video. It really helped me get a better understanding of Socialism, Communism, etc.
As a socialist, I enjoy seeing capitalists actually making efforts to learn about socialism and communism. It's always more fun to debate with a capitalist who knows what they're talking about than to debate with a capitalist who thinks communism is any government that the US doesn't like.
@@nibbletrinnal2289 Fully agree (except for the "as a socialist" bit 😉). Now if someone could make a video that explains fascism and other right-wing concepts in the same way, that would help too. I sometimes get the impression that the leftists tend to call everyone with a conservative/reactionary/right-wing opinion "fascist", although that is just as wrong as calling social democrats "communists". The most difficult bit for this would probably be to present the fascist ideology in a coherent way, because I could never make any sense out of it.
@Jean Sanchez I was using capitalist in the commonly used meaning of someone who likes the capitalist system, rather than one who owns the means of production.
@Jean Sanchez I might be in the wrong, or it might be the people I talk to, but I commonly see the word capitalist used to mean someone who supports capitalism(just as how a communist supports communism) as well as meaning one who owns the means of production. It didn't even occur to me that someone might not have known that definition. Sorry about that
@@joycastle. I am a leftist but no. I understand right wing ideologies much better than left wing ideologies
Marx and Engles made no distinction between communism and socialism, even using them interchangeably and so should we. We largely have the same goals and aspirations and the petty feud between distinguishing oneself as a communist over a socialist detracts from the grander mission of worker revolution.
Socialism: Ideas so good, that they have to mandated.
When you think that capitalism isn’t enforced