@@craftersdelight2011 Farage and Tice know that BBC, ITV, C4 Sky are looking for any justification to use words like 'far right' 'convicted criminals' 'EDL' 'riots' against Reform UK. So, the only way to prevent this is to say TR is not welcome in Reform UK.
A few edits to his film? Nonsense. He was banned from sharing the truth. What information would you have left out of the documentary to avoid state persecution?
@@user-jojo29 come on, watch the films , if you do you will see he told the truth they didn't want him to tell so they are punishing him plain and simple .
The thing is Tommy is not a racist, what he wants is our country to remain with its own set of values etc. He highlighted the grooming gang scandal and that is why people support Tommy. Tommy is now in solitary confinement for speaking the truth and that is wrong, he should not be in prison at all for this civil offence when real offenders are being let loose to accommodate people who post tweets or facebook posts, it is not right those people could have been given community orders.
How convenient that you made no mention of the fact that he nearly collapsed the Huddersfield grooming gang trial then. Or the fact that he was a BNP member.
Trump has 32+ felonies , all but one of Tommy's crimes were political persecution,. Farage has constantly badmouthef Tommy. He just needed to say nothing!l@MarionGolbourn
It’s sickening that this govt is more concerned about protecting and supporting illegal immigrants than its own people. It’s beggar’s belief that the British people are not marching on the streets about this scandal, where are the so called Muslim leaders coming out to condemn this barbaric actions by these raping gangs. 🇬🇧
And farage has now joined the islamists .he no longer represents what the reform party was started and backed for .he will be no better than sunak Boris and starmer
Tommy didn't ask to be a part of reform. You just need to read and use common sense when it comes to Tommy. Don't kick someone who's already down. I think Tommy set all of this in motion. It's shocking that talk tv and gb news going it the same direction as sky and bbc. It's sad
I don't think you are capable of common sense when it comes to Robinson. He is in prison for contempt of court and I wouldn't be surprised if he was actively involved organising the riots last year. In fact I think the police are probably gathering evidence while he is in prison and if they have enough to charge him with terrorist offences they will as soon as he is released.
If grooming gangs and immigration was dealt with properly by the UK government. I would imagine Tommy would not be in prison now, but just getting on with his life. Also lack of action has consequences
Why are they all acting like Tommy is a criminal! We all know the real reason he’s locked up! I can’t stand these politically correct idiots we need real men that aren’t afraid to say it how it is I thought that was farage but clearly not
Tommy is great and so is Farage. Tommy would be the first to say he’s not squeaky clean. You have to be squeaky clean for the British people to elect you
Stop bashing Tommy Robinson, the only thing he done was tell the truth. Musk is sticking up for him because he’s done his homework and can see Tommy is a political prisoner.
I will continue to support Reform and others should do so too. Tommy wouldn’t want to be a part of Reform, as I believe Tommy has his own Agenda, so please leave well alone.
@ you have no idea whatsoever of who or what I support. However as regards Nigel I most certainly do support Reform. I have many interests, as many contributors here do too.
@@pamelaarrigoni8405 Don't support Reform. They split the vote and gave you 10 years of Kier. Reform is just taking Conservative MPs on who lost their seats looking for fresh opportunity. He should have stood as a Conservative MP and reformed the party. They cannot get a majority, despite what Talk / GB news tells you. It is just a protest party to form a coalition opposition. They will set their bar as high as winning a majority but it will not happen.
It’s crazy for anyone to suggest that Tommy wants to join Reform .. all he wants is for Nigel to stop dividing the right. We must UNITE and Nigel is not doing this.
The wrong move by farage and his team, I have a lot of respect for Tommy he has put his head on the line, made money along the way he deserves, the man is more patriotic then any politician. The politicians and the media have sold us out. This country has been killed by the rich, with the attitude I am all right jack.
Tommy will have his day in the sun what have these two ever done for the average British person. Everyone who was involved in the grooming scandal needs to be exposed for the cowards they are and take there rightful place in prison instead of tommy.
We all know why tommy is in prison, it's the prison he's in is the problem it's a disgrace, if it wasn't for him these grooming gangs would still be a cover up, makes my blood boil, thank God for Elon musk
Stop avoiding the truth! TR should not be in solitary confinement, not for a civil action - he IS a political prisoner because of the whole racist thing that will inevitably blow up once,if ever, the truth comes out - and it needs to come out but not at the risk if TR’s life! Yes he made mistakes in the past, who hasn’t? Especially bearing in mind that his own family members suffered at the hands of a grooming gang, the thing is who he is now that matters and he is a good, decent guy who wants to see the right thing done - full exposure of the grooming gangs.
Contempt of court is not a civil action, its a crime. There was a documentary a few years ago during his previous prison sentence where Robinson was interviewed. The reason he is in solitary confinement is for his own safety if he wanted to leave it and demand to join the general population he would be in his rights to do so but the chances are he would have attempts made on his life if he did. I don't know what his current cell is like but the one he had in the interview was better than some hostels I stayed at while backpacking years ago. He had access to a television with all the freeview channels as well as a Playstation 3. All he has to do is sit back watch a few movies, play some Tomb Raider and read a few books and his sentence will be over. Until he is arrested on release for terrorism charges in regards to the riots last year and that will be a different matter. You don't get through a 20 year prison sentence in solitary just by watching TV and playing old PS3 games. He probably will go insane and end up in the mental health wing of a prison doped up to the eyeballs.
Leaving aside the rights or wrongs of TR's imprisonment, it is important to note that Nigel isn't in this spat with Elon Musk because he failed to express active support for TR. It is because he went on the airwaves and launched an unprovoked all-out attack on TR, and at the same time rather patronisingly said Mr Musk didn't understand, etc. This was an utterly self-defeating move by Nigel. He could have just stayed quiet. TR doesn't even want to join Reform (or any political party.) He also isn't working against Reform or attacking them etc. So what the heck motive do Reform have to go out and gratuitously p---off TR's hundreds of thousands of supporters from the white working classes!? It is just monumentally foolish tactics. Reform's potential vote is already split with the Tory Party. They should avoid further civil wars among their own voter-base at all costs!!
What do you mean, what has he done? Nigel hasn't even been in power... he's doing his best but he's outside of government, what do you expect him to do. He can't do anything about 200,000 girls anymore than you can...
People are upset about Nigel's arrogance and ignorance, coupled with his lack of empathy and moral courage, regardless of whether one supports Tommy or not. This is a classic leadership failure.
All Nigel had to do was say TR has nothing to do with reform, he did not need to criticise him. Why he felt the need to throw TR under the bus is why I believe Elon said he isn’t leader worthy. He should have just kept saying TR is not a reform mp and therefore irrelevant but was so easily pushed for a response by the interviewer.
Real name Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, convictions for assault, fraud, possession of cocaine with intent to supply, two counts of contempt of court, former BNP member…need we go on?
As Isabelle Oakshott is employed by TalkTV and is also a Reform mouthpiece because of her relationship with Richard Tice I think there should be a full disclosure of this fact whenever Reform are discussed on TalkTV
The big point you and all media are missing is that Tommy does not want to be part of reform, if the stuff shirts actually listened to what Tommy has said you would know that.
@mysterial_1 💯 he is you're right, hopefully Elon will help Tommy fight all these political charges & harassment that he's endured over the years & expose the corruption.
Yes he just thinks Farage is being a coward for how he addresses it and therefore doesn’t want to fund him. He’s just expressing his opinion. You are free to listen or not
I like tommy and i like nigel, to me we need nigel, we have to get these labs out, try thinking laterally not emtionly, things will sort themselves out, im in my 60s and im scared for my children, grandchildren, we dont need all this bickering
Couldn't agree more. No serious political party would go anywhere near TR. It's a pity only Reform are being quizzed about TR, they need to move away from the far right label and this is a burden. There is room for both, but they are not the same.
Oh my soul, how many times will people have to be told that TR doesn’t, hasn’t or even asked to be part of Reform!! He’s way too passionate to be a politician . However Tommy has a huge following and that same following voted for Reform… not all but most. Now because Nigel Farage chose to speak about Tommy this has lead to all of this happening. In turn he will now lose a huge amount of votes. You can’t blame Tommy for Farages words.
Agree and Mike needs to do his research,he harps on about being a proper journalist,yet he clearly has only watched msm clips of Tommy and not even the background of the contempt of court .
I wish people would stop saying "The likes of Tommy Robinson". Similarly, Assange was also imprisoned, but no one used that term. Agree, it could affect Reforms campaign, to express support, but show acknowledgement for Tommy's .
Farage should have remained neutral. Tommy doesn't want to be a member of Reform. He appreciates that it could be bad optics for any party. And anyway, Tommy is not about one party or another. He's about a united nation living in peace, safety and security together, irrespective of colour, belief or anything else.
Courage doesn't come into it. This bloke hides behind children in order to get money from his followers. Name one victim of grooming he has helped in 25 years. Just one name........
Musk may be correct, Farage may or may not be the strongest Character in the Party come the Election, but just as Boris was to the Tories, it's Farage that people will vote for...
It WAS Farage that people would vote for.. past tense. Unless there’s some form of an apology l highly doubt TR supporters will vote for Reform again. Nigel has divided his own parties votes now.
Farage knows exactly what he is doing, stop assuming he is making mistakes. This was calculated, he does not care about us in the slightest. He needs to go.
Nigel wants nothing to do with TR but will be happy to accept the votes from thousands of his supporters whilst at the same time saying saying nothing about how TR and other political prisoners have been treated.
Farrage doesint have the stones to do what needs to be done. He's looking at a future where Islam is a major force in the UK, most people just want it gone.
Mike oh Mike. Nigel was talking for Elon. Nigel said Elon doesnt know what Tommy is locked up for and Nigel will educate him at the inauguration. Elon who runs some of the biggest most successful businesses in the world felt a bit pissed off with that and im sure you would be if he said that about you. Farage is collapsing and Reform wont win the next election with Farage in charge.
TR is largely lacking intelligence to keep him out of trouble. And TR is just dragging his heels and along pops Musk! NF can not risk his position in parliament with TR in the sidelines.
If I was Nigel (or Mike for that matter) I should listen to Douglas Murray on Spectator (a week or so ago). This could have been so easily avoided. Tommy doesn't even want to be in Reform. Just acknowledge his brave stance on the grooming gangs (hate that word, it's Orwellian Newspeak of the worst kind), tell them that the sentence is beyond absurd (while the perpetrators and their eneablers are still walking around) but that he has to keep some distance because of politics and the MSM;. the hyena's and jackals of society. Forr God's sake how difficult can it be ? This would never have happened with Trump.
Other comments from Nigel they haven’t played - there are what are upsetting- throwing Tommy under a bus! Up until now I have ALWAYS loved and supported Nigel 😮
100% agree with you.. right up until he chose to say something rotten about TR. Now the reason why l need to search for another party to vote for. Sigh!
Tommy is not a convicted criminal, hes in for contempt of court. Everyone knows that. And that was for showing the video about this gruesome abuse to CHILDREN
I stand with Reform and Farage. I believe TR is an activist who has tried highlighting the awful atrocities something to be commended. I will vote Reform regardless as I believe in their principles and they believe in free speech.
Reform need to get floating voters to vote for them to have any chance of being elected. Any alliance or even recognition of TR will make sure that doesn't happen. The only people benefiting from this in fighting is the Establishment and the MSM.
@DJAA21M I agree that Farage didn't handle the question well and could have recognised the injustice of the current situation. That said he was being criticised for not saying anything about TR. My main concern is the Establishment including the MSM will be licking their bloated chops if we start climbing into each other.
In those working class red wall seats, there is a lot of support and empathy for TR and what the State has put him through. They feel that TR is on their side and has been for many years. Farage [ who I admire] and Tice come across as very unsympathetic and are in danger of alienating a lot of potential supporters unless they take a more nuanced stance on this.
The fact that he won’t stand for Tommy, being put in solitary confinement, for a civil matter. Is the problem. It shows every single brit, that he won’t stand up for people being abused by the system.
Reform have come a long way without Elon up to now and this is because of Nigels dedication. It's a shame he has withdrawn his support from Nigel but I'm sure we can jog on nicely.
I'm not competent to qualify on internal British politics but I CAN and WILL comment on human rights. Musk is right to call out the failure to address the horrific crimes against children which have not been resolved. I applaud anyone who draws attention to these travesties, wherever they happen.
Elon has brought the attention to the GG, let’s focus on justice for the children. NF had an opportunity to be a civil about TR but choose not too… The people of Britain need the right leader and it’s not TR, Tommy knows this. But What the lefties don’t understand and NF is it’s the people in these low income areas were LM and culture destroys community and lives and has destroyed Britain in the end. The British people have plenty of time to decide who they support, everything is just words at the moment we need action from our government to do what’s right.
I am confused here. Where and When did Tommy say to join Reform? He never said to join Reform. So why is everyone talking if Tommy is right for reform or not.
the court order was for showing the film "Silenced" after being ordered not to show it. Tell the truth! Sad Mike I used to think you were fair minded, not now. Learn facts. It's not only Musk in the States that supports Tommy.
Exactly Mike was my favourite,he's now a mouthpiece of reform, he needs to watch all the documentaries on Tommy then he will understand what garbage he's talking. What decent person chucks a man under a bus that has spent most of his life exposing these gang and being shut down for it by government's & anyone else who's covered it up
If Farage cannot attack injustice. Not a good sign is it. Ffs leave Tommy alone. The state is on his back. He doesn't need these so called politicians piling in.
This interview is totally wrong get it right Tommy is way way way more popular it’s a disgrace talking about Tommy this way this man is in solitary confinement for a civil offence it’s a disgrace I will never look or listen to Mike Graham again they are talking absolute rubbish
Hugely disappointed in MG on his stance over TR. This is about NF throwing TR under the bus for years and not standing up for his human rights. In solitary for a civil offence? Madness
Regardless of which political views anyone has, why do TR supporters constantly use 'solitary confinement ' as a tool to say how badly he is being treated in prison because of it. Do you really think that the man himself wants to be put in the general population of a cat B prison?
@@jackjonesy9232 He is in solitary because he's been put in the wrong category of prison. Dont be so ignorant, you know this to be the case. Where did i say i was a supporter of TR?
@deansanders2145 He shouldn't be in prison. Now he is, and in SC, that means he's safe from people who want to kill him. Forget mental health, I can't imagine he's going to ask the governor of the prison if he can share a cell on a wing m8 ffs.
Tommy Robinson does not want to join Reform, I'm leaving Reform today. All we wanted was for Farage to say Tommy is a political prisoner and his sentance is completely over the top.
No they don't because its only a very small percentage of Reform supporters who also support Robinson. The number of people who support Robinson in the UK is not as big as his supporters think it is which means Reform doesn't need the Robinson vote
I’ll give you my take on this. Almost every channel has dropped all these terror attacks stories for this one… don’t look there look here situation that’s what I see ✌️
I used to love watching Talk TV, I even told my friends and family about it. Watching this and hearing the host repeating one of his messages, he got regarding Elon. Having read all the messages on here, I believe you're purposely ignoring your fan bases opinions. You are such hypocrites, Elon is OK going after Starmer for grooming gangs in the UK, but he can't have an opinion about Nigel disrespecting Tommy when he has done more to bring these grooming gangs into the light than ANYONE. To even imagine Elon has gotten it wrong about Tommy is so conceited on your part that. He is more than capable of following what Tommy has said and done. MAGA supporters LEGAL immigration. You are so ill-informed, not Elon Musk. Your acting no better than the BBC. SHAME ON YOU!
“Like minded” People are actually behind Tommy, you wait and see..this has damaged reforms chances big time.. Nigel has underestimated greatly the level of disgust that his comments on Tommy have created. We expect it from the mainstream but Nigel was ment to be anti establishment, but now he’s proven himself. A lot of reform voters are gutted but better the truth comes out sooner rather than later. Free Tommy Robinson.
Tommy has never asked to be in Reform
well said
Exactly
Exactly 👍 so I don’t understand what all the fuss is about
Correct and I am disappointed with Mike Graham here. I thought he knew better.
@@craftersdelight2011 Farage and Tice know that BBC, ITV, C4 Sky are looking for any justification to use words like 'far right' 'convicted criminals' 'EDL' 'riots' against Reform UK. So, the only way to prevent this is to say TR is not welcome in Reform UK.
Let's not forget the needs of the rape gang victims over all this political shite
THIS should be an absolute priority, and above party politics!
ONE MAN IS IN JAIL FOR TELLING THE TRUTH one is in number 10 for LYING???
TR is in prison for contempt of court. A few edits on his film and he wouldn't be. It was a daft hill to die on.
A few edits to his film? Nonsense. He was banned from sharing the truth.
What information would you have left out of the documentary to avoid state persecution?
Isn’t Tommeh also under investigation for tax fraud to avoid paying taxes in the country he supposedly loves?
@@user-jojo29 come on, watch the films , if you do you will see he told the truth they didn't want him to tell so they are punishing him plain and simple .
These people don’t care about all the girls that were abused. It sickens me that so many people don’t care.
Tommy is in prison for a civil matter not a criminal matter,
We know.
And so does Farage, he just does not care.
@caspa2006 and even that civil offence is just another way to cover these heinous crimes.
A ‘civil matter’ that carries a maximum sentence of two years jail. Look it up.
@carlh429 not solitary confinement though.
Not the first time he's been banged up. These criminals never learn.
Tommy Robinson is a Political Prisoner that Labour, Conservative and Hope not Hate put him there in the 1st Place.
And Farage /Trice are fine with this
Why did he plead guilty guilty guilty then?
The thing is Tommy is not a racist, what he wants is our country to remain with its own set of values etc. He highlighted the grooming gang scandal and that is why people support Tommy. Tommy is now in solitary confinement for speaking the truth and that is wrong, he should not be in prison at all for this civil offence when real offenders are being let loose to accommodate people who post tweets or facebook posts, it is not right those people could have been given community orders.
He's a prisoner multiple times. UKIP sunk because of hardliners like toxic EDL types we don't want you. Go away.
contempt of court is a criminal offence , educate yourself
@@oldshiny3012 Contempt of court does not deserve solitary confinement Mr Knowitall!
How convenient that you made no mention of the fact that he nearly collapsed the Huddersfield grooming gang trial then. Or the fact that he was a BNP member.
@@JanH74 you have zero proof he is or is not in solitary confinement other then reading tweets
Tommy Robinson is in solitary confinement for contempt of court. Is there any other person in that situation? If not, why? How is that justice?
For his own safety and he has a choice not to be.
stop crying and do the bang up
Tommy himself said he does not want to be involved in Reform he just wants Nigel to stop slagging him off.
Nigel has not been slagging him off just pointing out that Tommy has a very doubtful past.
He should really just pivot off the topic
Then let his followers stop making it all about reform.
Trump has 32+ felonies , all but one of Tommy's crimes were political persecution,. Farage has constantly badmouthef Tommy. He just needed to say nothing!l@MarionGolbourn
@MarionGolbourn where
It’s sickening that this govt is more concerned about protecting and supporting illegal immigrants than its own people. It’s beggar’s belief that the British people are not marching on the streets about this scandal, where are the so called Muslim leaders coming out to condemn this barbaric actions by these raping gangs. 🇬🇧
Very well said🇬🇧
And farage has now joined the islamists .he no longer represents what the reform party was started and backed for .he will be no better than sunak Boris and starmer
The MSM and their media parties don't represent the electorate they represent the Zionist/Globalist brotherhood.
@@runoutofairydust4476of course he has, he isn’t stupid. Where do you think the funding and votes come from……..
Tommy didn't ask to be a part of reform. You just need to read and use common sense when it comes to Tommy. Don't kick someone who's already down. I think Tommy set all of this in motion. It's shocking that talk tv and gb news going it the same direction as sky and bbc. It's sad
I don't think you are capable of common sense when it comes to Robinson. He is in prison for contempt of court and I wouldn't be surprised if he was actively involved organising the riots last year. In fact I think the police are probably gathering evidence while he is in prison and if they have enough to charge him with terrorist offences they will as soon as he is released.
Nigel Farage could have dealt with TR differently than throwing him under the bus. Some compassion is required.
He is not on the side of the common man.
He is a snooty snob.
He would be a disaster as PM, glad this happened.
Especially after asking for Tommy Robinson's endorsement before the election. He valued Tommy's influence and Tommy obliged.
If grooming gangs and immigration was dealt with properly by the UK government. I would imagine Tommy would not be in prison now, but just getting on with his life. Also lack of action has consequences
Why are they all acting like Tommy is a criminal!
We all know the real reason he’s locked up!
I can’t stand these politically correct idiots we need real men that aren’t afraid to say it how it is I thought that was farage but clearly not
Well said🇬🇧
He went to jail for mortgage fraud 😂😂
What happened to Tommy is disgusting. Nigel is wrong
Not sure Tommy would wish to join 'Reform' with Farage as leader.
Musk is entitled to finance who he wishes.
you're wrong!
@@DavesFootballChanneloh it’s not you that is wrong. Oh okay then😂
@@wano4444 thank you! i'm glad you see it now!
@@DavesFootballChanneland you’re right?
Tommy is great and so is Farage. Tommy would be the first to say he’s not squeaky clean. You have to be squeaky clean for the British people to elect you
@louisetaylor2131 Exactly Louise.
With respect, are/were the MPs (past & present) who apparently failed to address the rampant violent defilement of British children "squeaky clean"?
Blair, Starmer and Cameron got elected
My opinion is Nigel is weak AF, and even worse, he's a politician 🤔
Really, like Boris?
Stop bashing Tommy Robinson, the only thing he done was tell the truth. Musk is sticking up for him because he’s done his homework and can see Tommy is a political prisoner.
I will continue to support Reform and others should do so too. Tommy wouldn’t want to be a part of Reform, as I believe Tommy has his own Agenda, so please leave well alone.
I don't really think you supported Reform UK full stop.
@ you have no idea whatsoever of who or what I support. However as regards Nigel I most certainly do support Reform. I have many interests, as many contributors here do too.
@@pamelaarrigoni8405 Don't support Reform. They split the vote and gave you 10 years of Kier. Reform is just taking Conservative MPs on who lost their seats looking for fresh opportunity. He should have stood as a Conservative MP and reformed the party. They cannot get a majority, despite what Talk / GB news tells you. It is just a protest party to form a coalition opposition. They will set their bar as high as winning a majority but it will not happen.
Free Tommy Robinson
Rupert Lowe is the only person with any sense of
It’s crazy for anyone to suggest that Tommy wants to join Reform .. all he wants is for Nigel to stop dividing the right.
We must UNITE and Nigel is not doing this.
Correct!🇬🇧
The wrong move by farage and his team, I have a lot of respect for Tommy he has put his head on the line, made money along the way he deserves, the man is more patriotic then any politician. The politicians and the media have sold us out. This country has been killed by the rich, with the attitude I am all right jack.
Tommy will have his day in the sun what have these two ever done for the average British person. Everyone who was involved in the grooming scandal needs to be exposed for the cowards they are and take there rightful place in prison instead of tommy.
Well said🇬🇧
Absolutely 💯
Elon Musk isnt stupid. He can smell a rat from a mile away!
Im so glad this has happened.
Wtf, Nigel isn’t a rat.. He is our best and most realistic chance of saving our country for the most part. What’s your option for 2029 then!?
Leaks coming out about Trump working together with shareholders involved with Qarddin
We all know why tommy is in prison, it's the prison he's in is the problem it's a disgrace, if it wasn't for him these grooming gangs would still be a cover up, makes my blood boil, thank God for Elon musk
9 months in solitary confinement for a civil matter,Nigel needs to watch silence
What cos he says so in a tweet...why would he be in solitary for a civil matter, so credulous
@ because it went political
Stop avoiding the truth! TR should not be in solitary confinement, not for a civil action - he IS a political prisoner because of the whole racist thing that will inevitably blow up once,if ever, the truth comes out - and it needs to come out but not at the risk if TR’s life! Yes he made mistakes in the past, who hasn’t? Especially bearing in mind that his own family members suffered at the hands of a grooming gang, the thing is who he is now that matters and he is a good, decent guy who wants to see the right thing done - full exposure of the grooming gangs.
Contempt of court is not a civil action, its a crime. There was a documentary a few years ago during his previous prison sentence where Robinson was interviewed. The reason he is in solitary confinement is for his own safety if he wanted to leave it and demand to join the general population he would be in his rights to do so but the chances are he would have attempts made on his life if he did. I don't know what his current cell is like but the one he had in the interview was better than some hostels I stayed at while backpacking years ago. He had access to a television with all the freeview channels as well as a Playstation 3. All he has to do is sit back watch a few movies, play some Tomb Raider and read a few books and his sentence will be over. Until he is arrested on release for terrorism charges in regards to the riots last year and that will be a different matter. You don't get through a 20 year prison sentence in solitary just by watching TV and playing old PS3 games. He probably will go insane and end up in the mental health wing of a prison doped up to the eyeballs.
Qarddin has two of the largest Tesla shareholders already; most likely something is coming
Leaving aside the rights or wrongs of TR's imprisonment, it is important to note that Nigel isn't in this spat with Elon Musk because he failed to express active support for TR. It is because he went on the airwaves and launched an unprovoked all-out attack on TR, and at the same time rather patronisingly said Mr Musk didn't understand, etc. This was an utterly self-defeating move by Nigel. He could have just stayed quiet. TR doesn't even want to join Reform (or any political party.) He also isn't working against Reform or attacking them etc. So what the heck motive do Reform have to go out and gratuitously p---off TR's hundreds of thousands of supporters from the white working classes!? It is just monumentally foolish tactics. Reform's potential vote is already split with the Tory Party. They should avoid further civil wars among their own voter-base at all costs!!
Media must be scared now Elon on Tommy side
Free Tommy
What has Farage done about the 200,000 girls that have be violated??
What do you mean, what has he done? Nigel hasn't even been in power... he's doing his best but he's outside of government, what do you expect him to do. He can't do anything about 200,000 girls anymore than you can...
@atlasnetwork7855 WELL SAID
People are upset about Nigel's arrogance and ignorance, coupled with his lack of empathy and moral courage, regardless of whether one supports Tommy or not. This is a classic leadership failure.
Really? Are the recent opinion polls evidence of a 'classic leadership failure?'
Tommy is a political prisoner!
If farage gets in will he do the same to tommy as starmer has?
All Nigel had to do was say TR has nothing to do with reform, he did not need to criticise him. Why he felt the need to throw TR under the bus is why I believe Elon said he isn’t leader worthy. He should have just kept saying TR is not a reform mp and therefore irrelevant but was so easily pushed for a response by the interviewer.
Why don’t you explain who Tommy Robinson is, and what he did???
Why don't you educate us?
@@MusbCrazy80 he is a political prisoner!, there you go
More political prisoners in the UK than in Russia, says it all to me, TR imprisoned for telling the truth
Real name Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, convictions for assault, fraud, possession of cocaine with intent to supply, two counts of contempt of court, former BNP member…need we go on?
@@davidanderson7138 😂😂😂 he broke the law. Simple.
As Isabelle Oakshott is employed by TalkTV and is also a Reform mouthpiece because of her relationship with Richard Tice I think there should be a full disclosure of this fact whenever Reform are discussed on TalkTV
Wonder how Trump administration is going to be pumping Qarddin
The big point you and all media are missing is that Tommy does not want to be part of reform, if the stuff shirts actually listened to what Tommy has said you would know that.
political prisoner.
Gosh not you guys also. Well lets just all throw Tommy under the bus. I wonder why NF is so against TR? Is there something he is hiding??????
I know,I'm starting to not like watching talk now, they are as bad as msm and Farage.
I thought I was watching the BBC
@tracyworth1630 same it was shocking especially Julia harping on about the Syrian boy, saying poor child
@Loobie531 I used to love talk TV but I am thinking the BBC as the other lady said. I think tousi is our best bet.
@mysterial_1 💯 he is you're right, hopefully Elon will help Tommy fight all these political charges & harassment that he's endured over the years & expose the corruption.
This is not about Tommy Robinson, its about freedom of speech.
Tommy don't want to be in Reform. Did Elon know that?
Yes he just thinks Farage is being a coward for how he addresses it and therefore doesn’t want to fund him. He’s just expressing his opinion. You are free to listen or not
@maciedixon3983 Elon beclowns himself.
Mike Graham's the clown
If Trump puts at least $200,000 in Qarddin, I am going all in
I like tommy and i like nigel, to me we need nigel, we have to get these labs out, try thinking laterally not emtionly, things will sort themselves out, im in my 60s and im scared for my children, grandchildren, we dont need all this bickering
We don’t need Nigel. We need a fearless leader with integrity.
Couldn't agree more. No serious political party would go anywhere near TR. It's a pity only Reform are being quizzed about TR, they need to move away from the far right label and this is a burden. There is room for both, but they are not the same.
I am so suss regards Farage. Tommy is not a convicted criminal. His imprisonment was for a civil case not criminal.
Privately Farage agrees with Tommy on lots of issues but you cant associate yourself directly with Tommy as you wont get elected. Its that Simple
Tommy would be No1 target in any party, taking focus off the main issues. Therefore, he would be a hindrance rather than an asset, unfortunately.
Of course he would. People need to become more realistic about TR and think more logically. Focus on the outcome, Reformation of the UK.
Oh my soul, how many times will people have to be told that TR doesn’t, hasn’t or even asked to be part of Reform!! He’s way too passionate to be a politician .
However Tommy has a huge following and that same following voted for Reform… not all but most. Now because Nigel Farage chose to speak about Tommy this has lead to all of this happening. In turn he will now lose a huge amount of votes. You can’t blame Tommy for Farages words.
Americans loathe spineless people, at least those with a spine, do. Let Farrage spell out his policies.
Musk is South African with British relatives, what does America have to do with ReformUK?
People with spines hate people without spines. Brilliant.
Without TR this issue would’ve been long forgotten and Nigel should have respected that.
Nigel wants position and prestige more peacocking...
Tommy wants to expose muhammadan grooming gangs and be a voice for the silenced victims.
Tommy doesn't want to be in reform! Where did that come from???? They should be working together, that's what I want as a Reform voter
Talk TV was good now they are the establishment.. will not view anymore..
Agree and Mike needs to do his research,he harps on about being a proper journalist,yet he clearly has only watched msm clips of Tommy and not even the background of the contempt of court .
I wish people would stop saying "The likes of Tommy Robinson". Similarly, Assange was also imprisoned, but no one used that term. Agree, it could affect Reforms campaign, to express support, but show acknowledgement for Tommy's .
Farage should have remained neutral.
Tommy doesn't want to be a member of Reform. He appreciates that it could be bad optics for any party.
And anyway, Tommy is not about one party or another. He's about a united nation living in peace, safety and security together, irrespective of colour, belief or anything else.
Its clear farage doesnt have the courage the british people require.
Not got the minerals, farage has showed he's not gonna do what's needed to turn back the tide
so what you going to do?, vote Labour again?
A few months back you probably voted for his party. Now here you are spouting what Musk tells you to.
Bang on @@collydub1987
Courage doesn't come into it. This bloke hides behind children in order to get money from his followers. Name one victim of grooming he has helped in 25 years. Just one name........
Musk may be correct, Farage may or may not be the strongest Character in the Party come the Election, but just as Boris was to the Tories, it's Farage that people will vote for...
It WAS Farage that people would vote for.. past tense. Unless there’s some form of an apology l highly doubt TR supporters will vote for Reform again. Nigel has divided his own parties votes now.
Lesson: know when to comment and when to say silent.
Farage knows exactly what he is doing, stop assuming he is making mistakes.
This was calculated, he does not care about us in the slightest.
He needs to go.
SIR TOMMY ROBINSON 🎉🎉🎉
Nigel wants nothing to do with TR but will be happy to accept the votes from thousands of his supporters whilst at the same time saying saying nothing about how TR and other political prisoners have been treated.
Can someone tell me why no one has said well done Tommy for everything he’s done on the grooming gangs . Country is a joke
Ppl saying Tommy Robinson is too outspoken to be a leader, ya'll should look at trump
Farrage doesint have the stones to do what needs to be done. He's looking at a future where Islam is a major force in the UK, most people just want it gone.
You guys NEED to back Tommy. Dont make the same mistake the Nigel and Richard have made.
Mike oh Mike. Nigel was talking for Elon. Nigel said Elon doesnt know what Tommy is locked up for and Nigel will educate him at the inauguration. Elon who runs some of the biggest most successful businesses in the world felt a bit pissed off with that and im sure you would be if he said that about you. Farage is collapsing and Reform wont win the next election with Farage in charge.
I would say if anyone "has what it takes" it was Nigel!
Was! Not now!
TR is largely lacking intelligence to keep him out of trouble. And TR is just dragging his heels and along pops Musk! NF can not risk his position in parliament with TR in the sidelines.
The court order is for telling the truth
If I was Nigel (or Mike for that matter) I should listen to Douglas Murray on Spectator (a week or so ago). This could have been so easily avoided. Tommy doesn't even want to be in Reform. Just acknowledge his brave stance on the grooming gangs (hate that word, it's Orwellian Newspeak of the worst kind), tell them that the sentence is beyond absurd (while the perpetrators and their eneablers are still walking around) but that he has to keep some distance because of politics and the MSM;. the hyena's and jackals of society. Forr God's sake how difficult can it be ?
This would never have happened with Trump.
Ah Douglas Murray, my absolute hero. He has the knowledge of how to approach a question…. So few do.
Other comments from Nigel they haven’t played - there are what are upsetting- throwing Tommy under a bus! Up until now I have ALWAYS loved and supported Nigel 😮
100% agree with you.. right up until he chose to say something rotten about TR. Now the reason why l need to search for another party to vote for. Sigh!
Tommy is not a convicted criminal, hes in for contempt of court. Everyone knows that. And that was for showing the video about this gruesome abuse to CHILDREN
I stand with Reform and Farage. I believe TR is an activist who has tried highlighting the awful atrocities something to be commended.
I will vote Reform regardless as I believe in their principles and they believe in free speech.
Reform need to get floating voters to vote for them to have any chance of being elected. Any alliance or even recognition of TR will make sure that doesn't happen. The only people benefiting from this in fighting is the Establishment and the MSM.
You can point out the injustice of his incarceration without supporting his message or at least shut up
@DJAA21M I agree that Farage didn't handle the question well and could have recognised the injustice of the current situation. That said he was being criticised for not saying anything about TR. My main concern is the Establishment including the MSM will be licking their bloated chops if we start climbing into each other.
Highly likely there will be partnerships between X or Tesla with Qarddin
You seriously need to actually research Tommy to learn the truth instead of pulling him to bits with lies.
In those working class red wall seats, there is a lot of support and empathy for TR and what the State has put him through. They feel that TR is on their side and has been for many years. Farage [ who I admire] and Tice come across as very unsympathetic and are in danger of alienating a lot of potential supporters unless they take a more nuanced stance on this.
The fact that he won’t stand for Tommy, being put in solitary confinement, for a civil matter. Is the problem. It shows every single brit, that he won’t stand up for people being abused by the system.
Mandela was a convicted criminal, look what happened when he was let out.
Reform have come a long way without Elon up to now and this is because of Nigels dedication. It's a shame he has withdrawn his support from Nigel but I'm sure we can jog on nicely.
@MaryWhite-ru1ou. Exactly right, it doesn't matter one jot in the long run.
I'm not competent to qualify on internal British politics but I CAN and WILL comment on human rights. Musk is right to call out the failure to address the horrific crimes against children which have not been resolved. I applaud anyone who draws attention to these travesties, wherever they happen.
What has Farage done about the 200,000 girls that have be violated??
Elon has brought the attention to the GG, let’s focus on justice for the children.
NF had an opportunity to be a civil about TR but choose not too…
The people of Britain need the right leader and it’s not TR, Tommy knows this.
But What the lefties don’t understand and NF is it’s the people in these low income areas were LM and culture destroys community and lives and has destroyed Britain in the end.
The British people have plenty of time to decide who they support, everything is just words at the moment we need action from our government to do what’s right.
I am confused here. Where and When did Tommy say to join Reform?
He never said to join Reform. So why is everyone talking if Tommy is right for reform or not.
If the votes gets split between Reform and UKIP, it will be another 4 years for Labour or The Tories in 28/29 😞
EXACTLY. WE CAN STILL SUPPORT REFORM AND ALSO TOMMY
the court order was for showing the film "Silenced" after being ordered not to show it. Tell the truth! Sad Mike I used to think you were fair minded, not now. Learn facts. It's not only Musk in the States that supports Tommy.
Totally agree. Mike is wrong here. 🇬🇧
Exactly Mike was my favourite,he's now a mouthpiece of reform, he needs to watch all the documentaries on Tommy then he will understand what garbage he's talking. What decent person chucks a man under a bus that has spent most of his life exposing these gang and being shut down for it by government's & anyone else who's covered it up
Listen to these 2 .Drivel
TR and Elon are heroes 👍🏴🇺🇸💪
He should of just stayed neutral and said Tommy Robinson has nothing to do with him
If Farage cannot attack injustice. Not a good sign is it.
Ffs leave Tommy alone. The state is on his back. He doesn't need these so called politicians piling in.
…..but if the court order suppresses free speech, Tommy is a political prisoner.
The world doesn’t revolve around Tommy Robinson or Elon musk all a distraction from real issues
Not when they are highlighting what's wrong in the uk
Theo Usherwood, goes yeah, yeah, yeah showing his utter contempt for the victims.
Shame on Nigel .
And TalkTV.
This interview is totally wrong get it right Tommy is way way way more popular it’s a disgrace talking about Tommy this way this man is in solitary confinement for a civil offence it’s a disgrace I will never look or listen to Mike Graham again they are talking absolute rubbish
Farage is actually just another establishment stooge.
why are they sitting there looking in the news papers ? don't think you find much truth in them.
Hugely disappointed in MG on his stance over TR. This is about NF throwing TR under the bus for years and not standing up for his human rights. In solitary for a civil offence? Madness
Regardless of which political views anyone has, why do TR supporters constantly use 'solitary confinement ' as a tool to say how badly he is being treated in prison because of it. Do you really think that the man himself wants to be put in the general population of a cat B prison?
@@jackjonesy9232 He is in solitary because he's been put in the wrong category of prison. Dont be so ignorant, you know this to be the case. Where did i say i was a supporter of TR?
@deansanders2145
He shouldn't be in prison. Now he is, and in SC, that means he's safe from people who want to kill him. Forget mental health, I can't imagine he's going to ask the governor of the prison if he can share a cell on a wing m8 ffs.
Tommy Robinson does not want to join Reform, I'm leaving Reform today. All we wanted was for Farage to say Tommy is a political prisoner and his sentance is completely over the top.
Looks as though Farage is going to lose support as the majority, strangely enough, of his supporters back Robinson.
Utter rubbish, just look at the counter since this broke yesterday
I AM ROBINSON.
No they don't because its only a very small percentage of Reform supporters who also support Robinson. The number of people who support Robinson in the UK is not as big as his supporters think it is which means Reform doesn't need the Robinson vote
@@jkhgfhcgdszxcytvbunmmajority are not. Go to UKIP and sink like last time.
@@jack_timber
Nonsense
Well done Mike, you've just spent another show blathering and getting no where! His stance on Tommy and other presenters is disgraceful.
I’ll give you my take on this. Almost every channel has dropped all these terror attacks stories for this one… don’t look there look here situation that’s what I see ✌️
Very good point. So now Nigel is the bogeyman and not Islamists?
I used to love watching Talk TV, I even told my friends and family about it. Watching this and hearing the host repeating one of his messages, he got regarding Elon. Having read all the messages on here, I believe you're purposely ignoring your fan bases opinions.
You are such hypocrites, Elon is OK going after Starmer for grooming gangs in the UK, but he can't have an opinion about Nigel disrespecting Tommy when he has done more to bring these grooming gangs into the light than ANYONE. To even imagine Elon has gotten it wrong about Tommy is so conceited on your part that. He is more than capable of following what Tommy has said and done.
MAGA supporters LEGAL immigration. You are so ill-informed, not Elon Musk. Your acting no better than the BBC. SHAME ON YOU!
Talk TV - talking the correct talk to keep the establishment on side
“Like minded” People are actually behind Tommy, you wait and see..this has damaged reforms chances big time.. Nigel has underestimated greatly the level of disgust that his comments on Tommy have created. We expect it from the mainstream but Nigel was ment to be anti establishment, but now he’s proven himself. A lot of reform voters are gutted but better the truth comes out sooner rather than later. Free Tommy Robinson.