34:40 Look at this timestamp. Maru was already building up the Turrets even before he spotted Clem's drop. He knew he had the high ground advantage, and actually predicted a drop from Clem since he knew Clem cannot brute force his way in. The fact that his Marines also happened to spot the exact drop coming was just cherry on the cake
Clem is nothing to sneeze at, literally one of the GOAT terran players, hands down... but matches like these make Maru look like he's just on a whole other level. It's insane.
Don’t get me wrong, Clem is one of the best terrans right now but he’s not “one of the GOAT Terran players”. GOAT means you’re the greatest of ALL TIME, and Clem has only been owning the scene for the past few years. Maru, Innovation, MVP, etc. on the other hand, the true GOATs, have been consistently been at the top for way longer. Especially Maru, he’s literally the definition of someone who’s been great for all time.
@@wortyle Lets not forget names like TY, BoxeR, iloveoov, Flash and the GOAT himself NaDa. We cant leave these masters out of the picute while talking about the greatest Terran player(s) of ALL time!
Me: Oh, It's a Clem game, this ought to be good. Oh no, it's versus Maru. Oh no, it's Bo3 in less than 40 minutes. I suddenly feel bad for Clem. He's great, but he's no Maru.
Watch the replay packs, in game, from both camera perspectives. Clem tries his impatient YOLO-drop towards the end of mid-game after being zoned out multiple times > He loads the drop at 11:45 > 3 seconds later Maru splits off 2 hit squads of scouting marines north and south > Maru sends SCVs to build turrets the moment his southbound squad snipes Clem's spotting marine at the 6oclock base @ 11:53. This is a full 8 seconds before the same proceeding squad even sees the drop itself at 12:01. And amazingly Maru is actually looking at his northbound squad when he gets mini-map vision of the drop. His game sense and mini-map awareness simply immaculate. In an instant he jumps to the drop, simultaneously: pulls his air army from the 3rd to the ledge, jumps back south > stims towards 9 O'clock, jumps back north > stims his towards 12 O'clock, jumps back to his Ravens. Conversely Clem shift queues that drop, macros in his main, looks at it twice enroute as it approaches but isn't even watching it (!) as it goes in. He's too busy looking at his tanks at 12 O'clock who are dealing with Maru's stummed marines 😉 and only jumps to look at it at 12:15, after it's already disabled and dying. •• The GOAT is both patient and yet lightning fast.
Clem always struggles with TvT marinelord and heromarine have taken him down a few times. It seems much more difficult to play than TvZ. It’s basically a match to see who screws up first. Clem’s aggressive style leaves a bunch of holes in his game. Whereas Maru’s defensive skills give him a large margin of error.
@@demaals Yeah, for sure, and I'll go as far as to say that that aggression that Clem is always going for is what makes him so good in TvZ. He doesn't give zerg one second to breathe or drone up 'cause Clem is always making Zerg produce units and transfuse so he can't put down tumors or inject as well.. For sure though Clem isn't mature yet as a player. He has the absolute skills of a madman but he needs more game experience, as strange as that is to say with how many thousands of hours that kid must have put into this game..
@@inflatablewolfieThe only reason Reynor can keep up with Clem at this point is by exploiting holes in his defense. It’s insane how much Clem outclasses the top zergs. I think he’s fine overall. He’s arguably the best player in the world right now, it’s just that his kryptonite is TvT. I think he needs to play against Koreans more and research Korean players to develop a more flexible play style. When I watched him play vs Dark in the world finals a few months back, Dark was barely able to beat him by outsmarting him. The Koreans seem to have a more flexible approach to SC2 than EU. The only players mixing things up in the EU are Maxpax and Bly. Everyone else plays mechanically.
@@ZeroMetal Most players below diamond aren't very good at the whole constant scouting/sieging and unsieging stuff so it usually devolves into cheese or one player losing everything to siege tanks >.>
@@gabrielhoelzle8476 low level TvT script: 1 - one player proxy barracks and the other player defends 2 - banshee strike/marine drop 3 - one player sieges outside a player base with tanks 4 - the other player responds with more tanks 5 - both players mass tanks 6 - the first player to make air wins 7 - but then loses to mass vikings 8 - vikings then land and die 9 - both players try to tank again until they cant afford it and the player with more stuff wins
@@goatfish480 yes i believe so, I'm zerg main as well. And I off race as toss. Funny thing is when the game came out i was terran main. You are correct. That is why Maru targeted the non interference matrix'd medivacs. Maru's micro is god tier. Great question! That is why Clem insta GG'd.
At 21:32 Clem tried to go in for some Auto turrets behind Marus tanks. But notice how he only dropped 1 because none of his ravens had any energy. Not a Clem like move at all, not a mistake i am used to seeing from him
I've been wondering that for ages. But even longer I've been asking the question "why tf is none of them building Thors, even a single one". It's as if they don't know it exists
@@kajetanmalinowski892 There are games in which T builds thors, they just don't do anything. They do not outrange tanks and they have too low DPS to actually threaten vikings.
TvT - Seige Tanks + Stimm addicts (Space version of Mad max), ZvZ - alien national geografic (Still missing a David Atenborough commentaries), PvP - Summon the Golden Armada (And lets not forget the big balls)
I wonder if liquidclem is same player as clem or claminliquid or liqudclam. I've seen like 3 clems with similar names and all interesting terran players lately...
Title: Who's the best Terran Player currently *BuyN isn't featured* Me: what blasphemy is this?! JK, lol! although...you should cast a BuyN vs Maru Bo3, that takes place after this series, Lowko!
never understood why ravens are so often used for TvT so it's obvious the players know how to use them but TvZ you so rarely see these things at the pro matches level. Something about TvZ that makes ravens useless?
Ravens are used to counter siege tanks because they can disable siege tanks. Disable only works on mechanical and psionic units, which Zerg doesn't have, so all they have is turret and anti-armor missiles. The gas can be better used massing ghosts.
Interference Matrix. Zerg has no mechanical units so this ability is completely useless, and its the main reason why Ravens are made at all. It's incredibly powerful against mechanical-heavy armies but is literally useless (not exaggerating) against a race that has no mechanical units whatsoever.
Last time Clem tried to go for massive Viking counts, Maru kept making Tanks and Marines, evetually Clem has nothing on the ground to protect his base.
@@tigera6 I wasnt saying mass vikings, i said not enough, if you make 3-5 and then only make tanks and liberators, if they have 8 you just lose the game :) mass viking is not good, and not what i meant
What was that expression again?
When Maru is behind, it's even.
When you're even, Maru is ahead.
When Maru is ahead, you've already lost.
34:40
Look at this timestamp. Maru was already building up the Turrets even before he spotted Clem's drop. He knew he had the high ground advantage, and actually predicted a drop from Clem since he knew Clem cannot brute force his way in. The fact that his Marines also happened to spot the exact drop coming was just cherry on the cake
This!
the fact that the marines were even there show this
wrr
bro these guys are such a different fkin level. Holy crap.
Me: I always cheer for Clem.
Lowko: Clem vs Maru
Also me: I ALMOST always cheer for Clem...
wr
Clem is nothing to sneeze at, literally one of the GOAT terran players, hands down... but matches like these make Maru look like he's just on a whole other level. It's insane.
Don’t get me wrong, Clem is one of the best terrans right now but he’s not “one of the GOAT Terran players”. GOAT means you’re the greatest of ALL TIME, and Clem has only been owning the scene for the past few years. Maru, Innovation, MVP, etc. on the other hand, the true GOATs, have been consistently been at the top for way longer. Especially Maru, he’s literally the definition of someone who’s been great for all time.
That's cos he IS on a level of his own. ;) #1
GOAT? BWUAHAHAHAHAHAHA
@@wortyle Lets not forget names like TY, BoxeR, iloveoov, Flash and the GOAT himself NaDa. We cant leave these masters out of the picute while talking about the greatest Terran player(s) of ALL time!
@@wortyle yeah, people need to stop tossing goats around so much
Me: Oh, It's a Clem game, this ought to be good.
Oh no, it's versus Maru.
Oh no, it's Bo3 in less than 40 minutes. I suddenly feel bad for Clem. He's great, but he's no Maru.
The real best Terran is the friends we made along the way (I like them both is what I'm saying)
you mean you are friend with both clem and Maru ?
As a Terran player, seeing a Maru vs Clem video posted is the highlight of my day.
It looks like Maru start to build the turrets before he spots the Clem's Medevacs...
Watch the replay packs, in game, from both camera perspectives. Clem tries his impatient YOLO-drop towards the end of mid-game after being zoned out multiple times > He loads the drop at 11:45 > 3 seconds later Maru splits off 2 hit squads of scouting marines north and south > Maru sends SCVs to build turrets the moment his southbound squad snipes Clem's spotting marine at the 6oclock base @ 11:53. This is a full 8 seconds before the same proceeding squad even sees the drop itself at 12:01. And amazingly Maru is actually looking at his northbound squad when he gets mini-map vision of the drop. His game sense and mini-map awareness simply immaculate. In an instant he jumps to the drop, simultaneously: pulls his air army from the 3rd to the ledge, jumps back south > stims towards 9 O'clock, jumps back north > stims his towards 12 O'clock, jumps back to his Ravens. Conversely Clem shift queues that drop, macros in his main, looks at it twice enroute as it approaches but isn't even watching it (!) as it goes in. He's too busy looking at his tanks at 12 O'clock who are dealing with Maru's stummed marines 😉 and only jumps to look at it at 12:15, after it's already disabled and dying. •• The GOAT is both patient and yet lightning fast.
I haven't even started the video. Just the title as me hyped AF. Two of my favorite players ever! Here we go!
Maru is the best TvT player hands down but I think Clem has him beat in TvZ.. What's for sure, though, is that both are exceedingly capable players!
True, clem beat serral 3-0 in Asus ROG tournament..ohhh wait that was maru.
I always feel TY is better in TvT than Maru but he is drafted now anyway so I guess you are right.
Clem always struggles with TvT marinelord and heromarine have taken him down a few times. It seems much more difficult to play than TvZ. It’s basically a match to see who screws up first. Clem’s aggressive style leaves a bunch of holes in his game. Whereas Maru’s defensive skills give him a large margin of error.
@@demaals Yeah, for sure, and I'll go as far as to say that that aggression that Clem is always going for is what makes him so good in TvZ. He doesn't give zerg one second to breathe or drone up 'cause Clem is always making Zerg produce units and transfuse so he can't put down tumors or inject as well.. For sure though Clem isn't mature yet as a player. He has the absolute skills of a madman but he needs more game experience, as strange as that is to say with how many thousands of hours that kid must have put into this game..
@@inflatablewolfieThe only reason Reynor can keep up with Clem at this point is by exploiting holes in his defense. It’s insane how much Clem outclasses the top zergs. I think he’s fine overall. He’s arguably the best player in the world right now, it’s just that his kryptonite is TvT. I think he needs to play against Koreans more and research Korean players to develop a more flexible play style. When I watched him play vs Dark in the world finals a few months back, Dark was barely able to beat him by outsmarting him. The Koreans seem to have a more flexible approach to SC2 than EU. The only players mixing things up in the EU are Maxpax and Bly. Everyone else plays mechanically.
Bruh, he used those marines like a baneling lol 14:50
Making sounds to the music, it's the proper way of casting!
21:00 Wow really question the engagement strat of Clem there- feels like he didn't need to make his last stand over that base
It's hard to watch being a fan of both players. But yeah, Maru is the greatest.
I feel different, Maru is the best, but not the greatest. I prefer these who brought more innoavation to the game like GuMiho.
@@Kaefer1973 and remember names like BoxeR, iloveoov, Flash and the GOAT himself NaDa.
I love your videos. I’m bad at Starcraft, but I love watching the pros like golf haha. One can dream
The marine drop at 14:50 by Maru shows why hes the best. Like who does that!?
30:10 the commentary and the tale of the marine brothers had me choking in laughtera
Dang it... The ending is so heart-wrenching.
Aah yes tvt... One of the best matchups to watch and maybe the absolute worst one to play xD
I think I spend half the match sieging and unsieging my tanks.
as a protoss player I love watching the world burn as they mis micro one unit and lose they're entire mineral line. I mean u can micro buildings yk.
what do you mean its awesome to play but hard
@@ZeroMetal Most players below diamond aren't very good at the whole constant scouting/sieging and unsieging stuff so it usually devolves into cheese or one player losing everything to siege tanks >.>
@@gabrielhoelzle8476
low level TvT script:
1 - one player proxy barracks and the other player defends
2 - banshee strike/marine drop
3 - one player sieges outside a player base with tanks
4 - the other player responds with more tanks
5 - both players mass tanks
6 - the first player to make air wins
7 - but then loses to mass vikings
8 - vikings then land and die
9 - both players try to tank again until they cant afford it and the player with more stuff wins
Lowko is Nice
This reminds me the second game between Polt and Bomber in the WCS America 2014 Season 3 Semifinal where Bomber lost all of his medivacs.
That is the fastest knockout blow I think I've ever seen in a Starcraft 2 game.
14:52.GENIUS MOMENT
cant imagine how Starcraft 3 could look like because SC2 is really looking good, its such a very well designed game
What an exciting ending!
O gosh that failed doom drop was intense.
I don't play sc2 anymore and played zerg so I have a question. Did the disruption on the transports make them not able to unload?
@@goatfish480 yes i believe so, I'm zerg main as well. And I off race as toss. Funny thing is when the game came out i was terran main. You are correct. That is why Maru targeted the non interference matrix'd medivacs. Maru's micro is god tier. Great question! That is why Clem insta GG'd.
@@TritonTv69420 ok that's kinda what I thought! Thanks for the info!
@@goatfish480 Also prevents them from boosting, so they had no chance of getting away.
Anti Armor Missile? ..... Do you remember the Hunter- Seeker Missile... that was fun :D
I want to hear C&C Hell March as Terran music :P
Hope everyone had a good Monday even if that’s kinda hard to do! :)
Instead of having a series be Bo3 one game at a time, it should be three games at once and whoever wins two is the winner.
11:23
We are witnessing whose side has the better healthcare...teh cruel world indeed. RIP Jimmies.
I love how Stream Lowko and UA-cam Lowko are 2 different ppl lul
Who is the best? It is pretty obviously really.
WHERES MY HELLOOOOOOOOOO EFERYONE ma name eS LOWKO And VELCOME BACK TO ANODDER GAME OF STARCRAFT 2
At 21:32 Clem tried to go in for some Auto turrets behind Marus tanks. But notice how he only dropped 1 because none of his ravens had any energy. Not a Clem like move at all, not a mistake i am used to seeing from him
wow Maru is a beast
wow brilliant Maru moves!
Thanks!
Oh god I saw this clip and I saw Clem’s face and I cried on the inside
Lowko mentioned the 20 min mark and I was like "damn, there's still 15~ min left in this game? crazy" and then the game ended.
The Raven abilities are like the Pot of Greed. What do they do?!
Everything
ravens are my favorite unit and arguably they have a 4th ability, detection
I just wish they could attack :/
@@gabrielhoelzle8476 they were almost given the ability to heal mechs.., but the dev decided to take tht out like the self healing thors
Incredible games!
Thank you
It's interesting because I feel like Maru used to call TvZ his strongest matchup while TvT was a bit of a weakness, but now he's super strong TvT.
Excellent and fun.
how about some EMP over those ravens?
That would be awesome actually :O
Ghosts have a hard time getting close enough because of the siege tanks, but it could work.
I've been wondering that for ages. But even longer I've been asking the question "why tf is none of them building Thors, even a single one". It's as if they don't know it exists
Yes, when watching these pro matched I often see they stuck on one idea/ unit composition when maxed out. Perhaps they know something we do not :)
@@kajetanmalinowski892 There are games in which T builds thors, they just don't do anything. They do not outrange tanks and they have too low DPS to actually threaten vikings.
This was so good
"HELLLLOOOO, His name is LOWKO!". He keeps forgetting but we won't!!!!!!
Its been to long sence the last classic intro
Quite surprised there were no ghosts with all those ravens. Theyre so expensive tho..
Clem just punched the screen and destroyed a wall out of anger
Just like playing any game knowing the game and its mechanics is only half the battle the rest relies on experience and good control
Played over 1000000 games Broodwar good 1000 starcraft 2 brood but I also love original and many ums - use map settings
"How did they make it out there?"
In pieces, apparently...
TvT - Seige Tanks + Stimm addicts (Space version of Mad max),
ZvZ - alien national geografic (Still missing a David Atenborough commentaries),
PvP - Summon the Golden Armada (And lets not forget the big balls)
21:34 i think clem didnt see that only 1 or 2 ravens actually had enough energy? or is it me, who's seeing things?
Dose a interface matrixed raven still provide detection?
Thats a good question, but i think it does.
Come on man don't quite casting starcraft2 you are amazing joyable person it's really fun watching your casts
Don'tGetMeWrongTV > LowkoTV
Hey lowko, why is everything orange all of the sudden in the game. Is that a bug?
I wonder if liquidclem is same player as clem or claminliquid or liqudclam. I've seen like 3 clems with similar names and all interesting terran players lately...
I like Maru’s games. Great game.
yo lowko 20:06 why do the terran units go orange all of a sudden LOL
Anti armor missile from the raven. The units take more damage.
@@esi8220 thx for explaining lowko didnt shout it when talking about it
nice video, but pls do a little less advertisement
Lowko ur awesome xD
upgrade at 12:20 .....unable to say its name in comments
Pls no
19 reactor
@@LowkoTV it literally will not type.. algorithm wont allow it
Maru
Damn, Maru is scary
No views? Gasp!
I'm honestly shocked... I was hope for Clem to win, 2-1... Maybe next time Clem'll gett'm! :D
T v T - Maru
T v P - Maru
T v Z - Clem
Who’s the Best Terran
Maru or Clem
But for me LOWKO the BEST CASTER😁
11:28 Did clem shoot his own units?
Epic game.
The BEST TERRAN is
absolutely Cure
yey, a non vZ matchup so Lowko can be unbiased
This shows how OP Terran is
one sec
I just realized
Terran buildings can burn down under water.
Me. I still play. I switched to random atm.
You mentioned gumiho but not cure? D:
always go for the full frontal push , it has superior penetration :)
The best terran right now is probably Cure
TvT is the way the game is supposed to played!
Title: Who's the best Terran Player currently
*BuyN isn't featured*
Me: what blasphemy is this?!
JK, lol!
although...you should cast a BuyN vs Maru Bo3, that takes place after this series, Lowko!
Clem went for mediforward instead of mediback.
I feel like lowko saw my comment last video and was like time to settle this
and i accept defeat cause maru absolutely destroyed clem
Is it just me or are we long overdue for Starcraft 3?
never understood why ravens are so often used for TvT so it's obvious the players know how to use them but TvZ you so rarely see these things at the pro matches level. Something about TvZ that makes ravens useless?
Ravens are used to counter siege tanks because they can disable siege tanks. Disable only works on mechanical and psionic units, which Zerg doesn't have, so all they have is turret and anti-armor missiles. The gas can be better used massing ghosts.
Interference Matrix. Zerg has no mechanical units so this ability is completely useless, and its the main reason why Ravens are made at all. It's incredibly powerful against mechanical-heavy armies but is literally useless (not exaggerating) against a race that has no mechanical units whatsoever.
Well, Raven used to be super popular in TvZ, until Blizz nerf the Heat Seeker Missile, and replace it with Anti Armor Missle back in 2018.
@@tigera6 that was only for a little bit. Funnily enough, it was maru who popularized the mass raven style (at least in pro play)
@@sage4670 Yeah, that sounds about right, if there any playstyle that related to Raven usage, I expect Maru to be the most succesful player with it.
that was dirty!
"No Views" *gasp* lets fix that
Screen flicker too much from looking back and forth, that’s not cool for viewing experience.
its 20: 30 in austria xD
Maruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu.... epic.... OH YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
I like how clem and i both loose in TVT for not making enough vikings lol
Last time Clem tried to go for massive Viking counts, Maru kept making Tanks and Marines, evetually Clem has nothing on the ground to protect his base.
@@tigera6 I wasnt saying mass vikings, i said not enough, if you make 3-5 and then only make tanks and liberators, if they have 8 you just lose the game :) mass viking is not good, and not what i meant
Wtf there are mondays in netherlands?
Maru is the greatest Terran general vs. Clem who is the greatest Terran strategist.
Clem by a hair.
no such thing as mistakex
I miss Inovation!
This is why Maru is best Terran player, Raynor best Zerg. Protos who cares 😅