So were Greg 'The Hammer' Valentine and Jim 'the Anvil' Neidhart... especially because they were both directionless faces in the Summer of 1991. Call them The Foundry, or something like that.
If only you were in the writers room way back when. Vince would have heard it, passed on it, and then 2 months later have it happen as his idea all along.
My friend works at a restaurant he has taken his grandkids to. He asked me what he should say to him to not be too intrusive, and I told him when he rings him up, just say "THat's $25.37, WITH TAX of course included!" Mr. Rotunda laughed and was amazed he knew who he was at his age.
IRS showcased some of Rotundas more devious tendencies (and wrestling ability) every once in a while... you just had to be looking for it. I guess it helped that I was familiar with him as Mike Rotunda before he showed up as IRS in the WWF... so I was more easily able to recognize those little moments
When I was a youngster IRS used to really captivate my attention. The suit and tie, constantly grimacing and smirking, and how swift he could move despite his gigantic size, made him really stand out, I think he was the first heel I considered myself a fan of back when I was young enough to believe these characters were real people.
I didn't understand the evil tax collector gimmick back then. But he talked about people with such condescendion, and his tone of voice, you got that he was a jerk.
That was Jericho for me growing up, especially Undisputed Champ Jericho in the 2000s. The way he would “shoo” fans during his entrances was hilarious lol.
Been a fan of yours for Years. I appreciate your insights and diagnosis. I find it so very interesting. One thing I miss from my early years of being a wrestling fan, is my naivety. However since the evolution of getting to know More about what we actually see is intriguing. I am now 60 years old and in my late teens wanted to pursue pro wrestling, but never took the opportunity. However, as a lifelong fan, I find your analysis captivating. Keep up the good work. Your insights is less selfish than most.
Rotunda is one of the wrestlers I grew to appreciate more as I got older. He's legitimately good at competitive wrestling so when he would do any kind of mat wrestling or chain wrestling it always looked great and he understands details that make that kind of wrestling look and feel real. In the age where most wrestling matches are about doing a lot very quickly it's nice to go back and watch wrestlers like Rotunda who could slow things down and still make it exciting to watch.
Mike Rotunda was one of the few wrestlers my three grandpas and I loved. I got exposed to wrestling from a majority of the territories in the early 80s. Grew up in Houston, spent my weekends in Louisiana on my Pawpaw's farm, spent Spring Break and part kf my summers in Florida with my Grandpa. My dad disliked wrestling, but he did not discourage me from watching it and took me to shows in Houston, Louisiana and Florida.
Graham demanded that Kayfabe be maintained for credibility and you did it if you wanted to work in Florida. He was a tough but fair boss. Vince McMahon tuned pro-wrestling into a farcical comedy.
@@PassivePortfolios Case in point- Johnny Valentine was a top draw in CWF, but he went to a cook out at Red Bastien’s place while they were in the middle of a feud, and even though they were drawing money, Graham fired them both for breaking kayfabe.
@@PassivePortfoliosoh look a. McMahon hater here. Another trailblazer. His current issued put aside, Vince McMahon turned wrestling into the main reason you have videos to Comment on. Wrestling would have never left the cigar smoke filled bingo halls in Georgia if it weren't for Vince McMahon..
Rotunda was an excellent Greco-Roman wrestler in college so he could stretch any of the pro wrestlers if he wanted to. He had a bit of a temper too back then so you would not want to tangle with him in real life. A legit tough guy.
Stevie literally described Mass Transit with the he might have been previously loud and calling stuff in the back, be glad this was Mike instead of New Jack 😂
He just threw somebody out of the ring and didn’t expect for the other guy to land on his head the guys being stiff he shoulda put his hands out and rolled he decided to sell and land head first
@@biglou3373 The gamble match is something else, gamble had it in his head that if he was to shoot on saturn and win he would impress upstairs. so perry beat him up.
Great Sasuke Vs. The Dirt Bike Kid, now that deserves an episode. It's the perfect definition of an indie wrestler absolutely determined to get his shit in, despite being in the ring with a Japanese shooter who was also the promoter of the event 😂
How Stevie doesn’t have over 100K subscribers yet is BEYOND ME!!! Such a knowledgeable person and personally COULDN’T STAND RTC, as an adult he was doing his job PERFECTLY!
Hey Stevie! I'm not sure if I'm looking at the same guy, but it says that you teamed up with Death Row on May 6th, 1995 at an ECW Tampa Show. You guys defeated Bruno Sassi and Dan Evans. The picture seems to resemble him.
Having had hundreds of judo bouts, I wouldn't wanna get on the wrong side of Mike Rotunda, I remember how much getting stretched by people of my own size and skill hurt, I wouldn't wanna have this dude bending my shit in ways it's not meant to bend, thanks! Rotunda took that elbow like it was nothing and then clamped down on the dude.
Stevie - Deathrow was a longtime indy wrestler in Florida. You were on a card with him: The first ECW show in south Fla., at the Davie Rodeo Arena. He teamed with someone called "Mr. President" against Public Enemy, and PE beat the hell out of them. Rocco hit Mr. President with a frying pan that caused a huge knot in the middle of his forehead that kept getting bigger. r k
Watching a few of these, you can observe that James excitedly waits to talk, starts part of a sentence and is cut of by Stevie who then proceeds to talk about something else that's kinda related but by the time he's done, James doesn't go back to the content he was initially trying to bring up. I was interested in what James had to say about Koji Kitao.
When I was a kid my brothers and I would make my dad sing Disco Duck in Donald Duck's voice, almost 50 years later I still get it stuck in my head, which now thanks to this video will be looping on autoplay all day.
OMG, I actually remember this match. Rotunda was always one of my favorites going back to his real early days in Florida and JCP and then of course when he and Windham were the US Express in WWF.
The kinds of holds Rotunda is putting on the guy remind me of my teacher at an old martial arts school. He mostly taught bouncers and security guys, but when we were doing ground work he would call cross face/chin lock and old school wrestling gouges as "suggestions" along with verbal instruction. When those don't work you would proceed to choke and lock the guy up. Those holds HURT and make you really want out.
You are supposed to go and watch this on your own BEFORE seeing an analysis of it 🤨 These kind of videos are not meant for first time watchers, they're for people who want the insight of a former professional wrestler, but it's expected that you go and search for this clip on your own first (like I did)
@@JamesRogers-ui3ui That's fine, it doesn't matter what you think, since this isn't a matter of opinion and I just told you how this type content is supposed to work.
@ it’s hard to follow because he plays around with the controls and why would it make sense for him to expect people to watch something else when he has it right now and is going over it the only fact is he’s not good at video analysis
The "non-star" the I remember was Mike Boyette who seemed to lose every single match with WCCW. JR used to say add another lose to his long list of defeats but you could tell he really knew how to wrestle and did a great job getting guys over. Sting was super green when he and Helwig first started, Helwig had no interest in learning either, he just wanted the money.
dunno if anyone else brought it up, but after a lil research it seems this Death Row wrestled in ECW very briefly and teamed with Stevie in late may of 95 on a tour of florida; at least according to cagematch
“Amateur wrestling” always has been and always will be the best base for mma - the absolute closest type of fighting to a street fight. You can learn to strike, but wrestling has to be built into who you are if you want to be a great fighter. Submissions also come easier to a wrestler. Amateur wrestling is one of, and might be the hardest sport in the Olympics.
I do love the slow mo analysis and everything but for me I'd love to see stevle let it run through in real time and then go back and do his slow mo stuff
I think it may be a copyright thing, I saw another video where the cohost asked him to let it play in real speed for just a few seconds and Stevie seemed to really resist, just kinda ignored the request and played it over and over at every speed except normal speed before moving on
@@orderandkhos6269 I don't think thats the case, he's started playing back in real time lately, copyright would only be an issue if he was playing full matches anyway
@ I definitely could be wrong if he started playing them back recently, however copyright on UA-cam can strike you for even the slightest unedited footage or audio, hell even edited footage isn’t safe sometimes from fraudulent reporters like Nintendo reporting things like reviews and Let’s Play’s, supposedly protected properties under fair use. Frankly, all you need is one second of footage in your video, and a spurious claim can have the video down and you a strike by the end of the day, so it’s usually better for the content creator (Stevie in this case) to err on the side of caution and just edit everything. A full match unedited is just setting yourself up for trouble
@@orderandkhos6269 I'm pretty sure wrestling companies are just less aggressive with protecting their IP, theres a bunch of channels out there like Bothcamania, What culture, wrestlelamia and a ton of otheres that have wrestling footage in thier vids, Full matches are obviously a no go like I said but considering Stevie is ex talent I really can't see there being an issue with the clips he post's being shown in real time.
Mike's Varsity Club run was his peak. x2 TV Champ and NWA Tag-Champ. He was far more animated than as IRS. Dude was a superb athlete and showed off a huge inventory of moves and techniques. Always felt he was much more subdued as IRS. He was allowed to be brutal in Varsity Club. He and Barry Windham broke the ring in a 1988 match in Cincie that is on UA-cam, and then he choked Barry with a clothes hanger. Much more violent than his run as IRS.
Totally unrelated to the main event of this video which was Rotunda beating the hell out of a jobber, but after hearing JR at the beginning of this video proves he could run AEW. Just hearing JR perfectly describe this incident but also describing the life of a pro wrestling reminds you that Jim has forgotten more about pro wrestling than Tony Khan could ever hope to know. AEW should be using JR as their head of creative and let him choose who to hire as talent relations. Because someone needs to write good creative while policing half the dumb shit that AEW regularly does.
I remeber thinking nothing of the beating this guy took from Rotunda , when I first saw this . I just remember thinking, What is Death Row's hairstyle ? An early skullet!
The Jobber was actually in a tag team called Death Row before this. In the GWA. I don’t recall much more info than that but I clearly remember the tag team
Tully-Funk went down like that at Slamboree 93 because it was in Philly and ECW fans were there to support Terry. He even elbow-drops Hat Guy's straw hat after the match.
Just watched that match...there were so many of these situations thinking back as a kid, to where I just thought the enhancement talent was just not as good as others... Older, knowing that they were just not cooperating is mind blowing.
Death Row wrestled at least two tag matches against the Steiners 6-9 months earlier and the matches are on here ... they were ok but not great , typical tv squash matches ... but he'd obviously been working for WCW on and off for the whole year and not fresh out of school or untrained like Stevie said may be the case ... he wasnt a great wrestler but hes obviously experienced a bit and took a clothesline off the Steiners' shoulders , which for a dude his size is amazing ... i think he was just too damn big to be a jobber and be taking those bumps mainly ... he tried to help both of the Steiners get him up in those matches and they still struggled because hes probably a legit 350 lbs , so the moves they were used to doing on 220 lbs job guys arent so damn easy 😂
haha. as soon as you said stu hart I heard in my head, in that gravely voice everyone uses for imitations "eh calm down you big bastard". you can see panic in the eyes of death row when rotunda's got him in that crossface great review. this is one of my favorite matches only because it's not good but it's also great. for a shoot wrestling match this is about is good as it gets. for a worked match it is what it is, a pro stretching an overly ambitious jobber
two matches you have to do are the infamous apa vs public enemy on sunday night heat. Apa just straight up whooped PE's asses. then the often forgotten follow up. apa vs dudleys on sunday night heat. Here you have another legendary ecw tag team facing the backstage bullies. the expectation was the dudleys were going to get stomped and go running to the hills like PE. instead they fought back. since they did fight back, bradshaw and simmons gave them the seal of approval.
The Jobber prob got told back stage who you fighting Mike you can beat Rotunda and then they will have to give you a job.. Rips were a thing Rotunda in a real fight would be able to be most of the top 80s/90s guys
Given the time period with Death Row and Blackwell, wouldn’t shock me if drugs were a factor too. Local Indy guy gets the call, opportunity to show what he’s got, does a different type of “bump” beforehand. Add that to nerves and hopes to get noticed, recipe for disaster.
Damn, I somehow don't remember seeing Tully vs Funk and I recorded and watched EVERYTHING over and over wrestling related. Hmmm, I got to find that now!!
Death Row also had a couple matches with the Steiners. They featured him trying to sandbag the Steiners, and them throwing him around anyway, because they are the God Damned Steiner Brothers.
IRS was one of the better "occupation gimmicks" that Vince was obsessed with in the 90s. Once he ran out of already created gimmicks fron the old territory days and had to create his own. All he did was come up with ridiculous job gimmicks. IRS was one of the least bad ones. Probably because he got paired with the Million Dollar Man pretty early and the chemistry was quite good.
Hey stevie, could you give your thoughts on brock lesnar when he's wrestling bob holly? id love to hear what you have to say about the match and how it went. greetings from australia 🐨🦘🍺
Undertaker and IRS as death & taxes is a missed opportunity
So were Greg 'The Hammer' Valentine and Jim 'the Anvil' Neidhart... especially because they were both directionless faces in the Summer of 1991. Call them The Foundry, or something like that.
If only Mike Rotunda had an opportunity to stretch Dave Meltzer and Bryan Alvarez
If only you were in the writers room way back when. Vince would have heard it, passed on it, and then 2 months later have it happen as his idea all along.
The Deadly Tax.
Taker goes legit heel, teams with the Million Dollar Corporation, then tags with IRS. Great idea.
My friend works at a restaurant he has taken his grandkids to. He asked me what he should say to him to not be too intrusive, and I told him when he rings him up, just say "THat's $25.37, WITH TAX of course included!" Mr. Rotunda laughed and was amazed he knew who he was at his age.
😂😂😂😂
That's awesome
Cool story man thank you for sharing!
That tax man wrestler. I hate him so much! Boooo!
Love it! That made me smile.
56 years old, been watching wrestling since I was a kid, learned more from this one video than I have from watching hundreds. Thank you Mr. Stevie.
Rotunda was put in a dangerous situation with an untrained amateur; he was just ensuring his own safety.
Mike Rotunda was underrated. That was one guy I wouldn't wanna piss off.
Just make sure you pay your taxes, and you should be fine.
Barry windham too 😂 wow that dude is legit
And I'm sure Mike passed down his talent and expertise to his sons Bray and Bo Dallas.
@@jonwoodmass2849Wyndham and Rotunda pissed off Billy Jack Haynes one time and both paid the price
@cutekanjii a receipt
You have truly found your calling in this. Fun watching you develop and find yourself in this space.
We all love Big Stevie Cool 😎
Mike Rotunda was outstanding as a heel! My grandpa and me hated the IRS.
... we still hate the IRS even to this day!
The IRS gimmick was genius !
Bury your cash in the back yard, like James Brown!
@@thisisnotachannel the Democrats would still tax it.
dont let the irs gimmick full you. captain mike rotunda was a bad mofo in his day.
Dude got hands for real
Fool*
IRS showcased some of Rotundas more devious tendencies (and wrestling ability) every once in a while... you just had to be looking for it.
I guess it helped that I was familiar with him as Mike Rotunda before he showed up as IRS in the WWF... so I was more easily able to recognize those little moments
When I was a youngster IRS used to really captivate my attention. The suit and tie, constantly grimacing and smirking, and how swift he could move despite his gigantic size, made him really stand out, I think he was the first heel I considered myself a fan of back when I was young enough to believe these characters were real people.
I didn't understand the evil tax collector gimmick back then. But he talked about people with such condescendion, and his tone of voice, you got that he was a jerk.
@@ojo3-tq4uj HIs gimmick was as good as The Million Dollar Man but in the opposite direction.
That was Jericho for me growing up, especially Undisputed Champ Jericho in the 2000s. The way he would “shoo” fans during his entrances was hilarious lol.
@@JW-dp4we Jericho's begging for his job was a classic !
Man I love this show. Stevie is such a great window into the industry.
Huh? He shows about 10 frames of movement, keeps saying, "see, sse!!???", but we see nothing.
Been a fan of yours for Years. I appreciate your insights and diagnosis. I find it so very interesting. One thing I miss from my early years of being a wrestling fan, is my naivety. However since the evolution of getting to know More about what we actually see is intriguing. I am now 60 years old and in my late teens wanted to pursue pro wrestling, but never took the opportunity. However, as a lifelong fan, I find your analysis captivating. Keep up the good work. Your insights is less selfish than most.
Love the little IRS promo at Summerslam 92 about 'British tax cheats' haha
The royals are the ultimate tax cheats lmao
Rotunda is one of the wrestlers I grew to appreciate more as I got older. He's legitimately good at competitive wrestling so when he would do any kind of mat wrestling or chain wrestling it always looked great and he understands details that make that kind of wrestling look and feel real. In the age where most wrestling matches are about doing a lot very quickly it's nice to go back and watch wrestlers like Rotunda who could slow things down and still make it exciting to watch.
Mike Rotunda was one of the few wrestlers my three grandpas and I loved.
I got exposed to wrestling from a majority of the territories in the early 80s.
Grew up in Houston, spent my weekends in Louisiana on my Pawpaw's farm, spent Spring Break and part kf my summers in Florida with my Grandpa.
My dad disliked wrestling, but he did not discourage me from watching it and took me to shows in Houston, Louisiana and Florida.
Rotunda, early in his career, worked in Championship Wrestling from Florida. You had to be tough to work for Eddie Graham.
Noooo really... did he wrestle with Barry Windham maybe Steve kiern did to.. where did dusty Rhodes wrestle? I bet you know
@@jasoncoles8063 Are you trying to be funny or are you just showing off your total ignorance of punctuation, capitalization and grammar?
Graham demanded that Kayfabe be maintained for credibility and you did it if you wanted to work in Florida. He was a tough but fair boss. Vince McMahon tuned pro-wrestling into a farcical comedy.
@@PassivePortfolios Case in point- Johnny Valentine was a top draw in CWF, but he went to a cook out at Red Bastien’s place while they were in the middle of a feud, and even though they were drawing money, Graham fired them both for breaking kayfabe.
@@PassivePortfoliosoh look a. McMahon hater here. Another trailblazer. His current issued put aside, Vince McMahon turned wrestling into the main reason you have videos to Comment on. Wrestling would have never left the cigar smoke filled bingo halls in Georgia if it weren't for Vince McMahon..
Rotunda was an excellent Greco-Roman wrestler in college so he could stretch any of the pro wrestlers if he wanted to. He had a bit of a temper too back then so you would not want to tangle with him in real life. A legit tough guy.
Stevie literally described Mass Transit with the he might have been previously loud and calling stuff in the back, be glad this was Mike instead of New Jack 😂
Please do the perry saturn "incidents".
Mike Bell match yeah.
@@Ferpero I was also thinking the Brian gamble one.
He just threw somebody out of the ring and didn’t expect for the other guy to land on his head the guys being stiff he shoulda put his hands out and rolled he decided to sell and land head first
@@biglou3373 The gamble match is something else, gamble had it in his head that if he was to shoot on saturn and win he would impress upstairs. so perry beat him up.
do video when vader broke the jobbers back
Mike Rotunda .. All American back when Syracuse CC had one of the top wrestling teams in the East ... He was a classmate of mine there
Stevie Richard's RTC look is a homage to IRS.
OK, plus Michael Douglas from "Falling Down".
More of a nod to Michael Douglas character
20:09
IRS definitely has swelling on his left cheekbone, he's most certainly fuming
His son looks so much like him
@@Chuck_ELso do I
Mike Rotunda was super underrated
I agree
Cool video! Thanks Stevie!
Great Sasuke Vs. The Dirt Bike Kid, now that deserves an episode. It's the perfect definition of an indie wrestler absolutely determined to get his shit in, despite being in the ring with a Japanese shooter who was also the promoter of the event 😂
Neeeeeeeed
"let me get my shit in brother" Dirt Bike Kid
How Stevie doesn’t have over 100K subscribers yet is BEYOND ME!!! Such a knowledgeable person and personally COULDN’T STAND RTC, as an adult he was doing his job PERFECTLY!
I’ve always said IRS was one of the most underrated wrestlers of all time.
Well that's a very ridiculous thing to say. He was boring as hell.
The story starts at 8:30 your welcome
Unless it was live, I'm a little surprised they let this match make it to air.
Get this man to 100k!!!!
Hey Stevie! I'm not sure if I'm looking at the same guy, but it says that you teamed up with Death Row on May 6th, 1995 at an ECW Tampa Show. You guys defeated Bruno Sassi and Dan Evans. The picture seems to resemble him.
It is the same guy I just checked some databases
Deathrow was on the Independant Florida circuits trained by Dr. Red Roberts. Nice guy. Very strong. Don't know how much experience he had though.
Having had hundreds of judo bouts, I wouldn't wanna get on the wrong side of Mike Rotunda, I remember how much getting stretched by people of my own size and skill hurt, I wouldn't wanna have this dude bending my shit in ways it's not meant to bend, thanks!
Rotunda took that elbow like it was nothing and then clamped down on the dude.
Stevie - Deathrow was a longtime indy wrestler in Florida. You were on a card with him: The first ECW show in south Fla., at the Davie Rodeo Arena. He teamed with someone called "Mr. President" against Public Enemy, and PE beat the hell out of them. Rocco hit Mr. President with a frying pan that caused a huge knot in the middle of his forehead that kept getting bigger. r k
Does Stevie realize he teamed with Death Row in ECW in 1995? They beat Phi Beta Slam together according to Cage Match.
I was gonna say! Stevie this is a one time tag partner of yours!
Phi Beta Slam was on almost EVERY Florida card for awhile. r k
this was a fascinating segment. Appreciate the specificity.
I love watching real technical wrestlers like Rotunda shoot-wrestle dudes. And RIP Bray.
Watching a few of these, you can observe that James excitedly waits to talk, starts part of a sentence and is cut of by Stevie who then proceeds to talk about something else that's kinda related but by the time he's done, James doesn't go back to the content he was initially trying to bring up.
I was interested in what James had to say about Koji Kitao.
First time Watcher,...
"LOVE IT" THANKS 🤘
A friend of my father's wrestled Mike in High School & College, Mike was super legit
When I was a kid my brothers and I would make my dad sing Disco Duck in Donald Duck's voice, almost 50 years later I still get it stuck in my head, which now thanks to this video will be looping on autoplay all day.
Love the analysis on this, need more like this, very unique in the wrestling UA-cam genre, need more
Business was wild back in the day. There was always a fine line between enforcing and taking advantage.
Varsity Club was hugely underrated.
I will forever be a fan of Stevie Richards after the chair shot he gave JBL.
OMG, I actually remember this match. Rotunda was always one of my favorites going back to his real early days in Florida and JCP and then of course when he and Windham were the US Express in WWF.
I would suggest going and watching the actual match before you watch the breakdown.
Spud City 😆 🤣 😂 😹
IRS was one of my favorites growing up, I even dressed like him on one Halloween way back then
The kinds of holds Rotunda is putting on the guy remind me of my teacher at an old martial arts school. He mostly taught bouncers and security guys, but when we were doing ground work he would call cross face/chin lock and old school wrestling gouges as "suggestions" along with verbal instruction. When those don't work you would proceed to choke and lock the guy up. Those holds HURT and make you really want out.
Great breakdown, Stevie. Loved it.
This is one of my favorite older matches.
Watch koko b ware beating up a jobber 😭
Or Ronnie Garvin. Dude could be brutal as all hell
Koko delivering that final slap to the jobber after beating the shit out of him and pinning is pure disrespect 😂
Love this podcast!
Man Steve is a great actor and really appreciated your in ring dumb guy play give you your due .
Very good description stevie. Can listen while i work
Take Regal's advice from that show where he was training wrestlers: "Step forward with your left foot."
14:40 That hammer lock was pretty nice. I like his he just takes it.
It’s a hard watch when Stevie is back and forth with the video
Completely agree
You are supposed to go and watch this on your own BEFORE seeing an analysis of it 🤨
These kind of videos are not meant for first time watchers, they're for people who want the insight of a former professional wrestler, but it's expected that you go and search for this clip on your own first (like I did)
@@Jacktrack7 nah I think youre wrong
@@JamesRogers-ui3ui That's fine, it doesn't matter what you think, since this isn't a matter of opinion and I just told you how this type content is supposed to work.
@ it’s hard to follow because he plays around with the controls and why would it make sense for him to expect people to watch something else when he has it right now and is going over it the only fact is he’s not good at video analysis
The "non-star" the I remember was Mike Boyette who seemed to lose every single match with WCCW. JR used to say add another lose to his long list of defeats but you could tell he really knew how to wrestle and did a great job getting guys over. Sting was super green when he and Helwig first started, Helwig had no interest in learning either, he just wanted the money.
That's the most excited I've been watching something since 2020.
He was Def. dancing to the " Cha Cha Slide"
dunno if anyone else brought it up, but after a lil research it seems this Death Row wrestled in ECW very briefly and teamed with Stevie in late may of 95 on a tour of florida; at least according to cagematch
Yep, saw the same thing. Small world clearly. If footage of that exists I'd love to hear Stevie react to that.
And Stevie didn't remember...
Great episode
Mike Rotunda and Rick Steiner as the 'Collegians' or 'Collegiats' was one of my favorite Tag Teams
Varsity Club
@@Nunnayadambiness Yes that was it. Thank you.
“Amateur wrestling” always has been and always will be the best base for mma - the absolute closest type of fighting to a street fight. You can learn to strike, but wrestling has to be built into who you are if you want to be a great fighter. Submissions also come easier to a wrestler. Amateur wrestling is one of, and might be the hardest sport in the Olympics.
You need to play clips longer than 1.4 seconds long
Thank death row didn't wrestle New Jack 😂
I do love the slow mo analysis and everything but for me I'd love to see stevle let it run through in real time and then go back and do his slow mo stuff
I think it may be a copyright thing, I saw another video where the cohost asked him to let it play in real speed for just a few seconds and Stevie seemed to really resist, just kinda ignored the request and played it over and over at every speed except normal speed before moving on
@@orderandkhos6269 I don't think thats the case, he's started playing back in real time lately, copyright would only be an issue if he was playing full matches anyway
@ I definitely could be wrong if he started playing them back recently, however copyright on UA-cam can strike you for even the slightest unedited footage or audio, hell even edited footage isn’t safe sometimes from fraudulent reporters like Nintendo reporting things like reviews and Let’s Play’s, supposedly protected properties under fair use. Frankly, all you need is one second of footage in your video, and a spurious claim can have the video down and you a strike by the end of the day, so it’s usually better for the content creator (Stevie in this case) to err on the side of caution and just edit everything. A full match unedited is just setting yourself up for trouble
@@orderandkhos6269 I'm pretty sure wrestling companies are just less aggressive with protecting their IP, theres a bunch of channels out there like Bothcamania, What culture, wrestlelamia and a ton of otheres that have wrestling footage in thier vids,
Full matches are obviously a no go like I said but considering Stevie is ex talent I really can't see there being an issue with the clips he post's being shown in real time.
Do people Not remember pre IRS Mike Rotunda?
Mike's Varsity Club run was his peak. x2 TV Champ and NWA Tag-Champ. He was far more animated than as IRS. Dude was a superb athlete and showed off a huge inventory of moves and techniques. Always felt he was much more subdued as IRS. He was allowed to be brutal in Varsity Club. He and Barry Windham broke the ring in a 1988 match in Cincie that is on UA-cam, and then he choked Barry with a clothes hanger. Much more violent than his run as IRS.
Mike is attempting some "pain compliance" with the greenhorn.
Totally unrelated to the main event of this video which was Rotunda beating the hell out of a jobber, but after hearing JR at the beginning of this video proves he could run AEW. Just hearing JR perfectly describe this incident but also describing the life of a pro wrestling reminds you that Jim has forgotten more about pro wrestling than Tony Khan could ever hope to know. AEW should be using JR as their head of creative and let him choose who to hire as talent relations. Because someone needs to write good creative while policing half the dumb shit that AEW regularly does.
is this the video which got more then 20 times copyclaim from yt?
One of my favorite segments going right now
I remeber thinking nothing of the beating this guy took from Rotunda , when I first saw this . I just remember thinking, What is Death Row's hairstyle ? An early skullet!
Mike had some jacked shoulders. That wasn't easy to tell under the IRS business costume
Stevie pissing around making him dance got to me
Mike is like Bruce Campbell on steroids
This breakdown is incredible
lmao don't mind me, just screaming YOU'RE THINKING OF KOJI KITAO 😂
Stevie, you guys REALLY need to do an "extra long" episode for the holidays where you cover all of these works turned shoot matches.
He barely moved the video - couldn't see anything in the half dozen frames of movement he showed.
I wish Stevie would just play the video through, then go back and pause!
Man! I could not agree more ! The stopping one second in video is driving me nuts
The Jobber was actually in a tag team called Death Row before this. In the GWA. I don’t recall much more info than that but I clearly remember the tag team
Tully-Funk went down like that at Slamboree 93 because it was in Philly and ECW fans were there to support Terry. He even elbow-drops Hat Guy's straw hat after the match.
Just watched that match...there were so many of these situations thinking back as a kid, to where I just thought the enhancement talent was just not as good as others... Older, knowing that they were just not cooperating is mind blowing.
Death Row wrestled at least two tag matches against the Steiners 6-9 months earlier and the matches are on here ... they were ok but not great , typical tv squash matches ... but he'd obviously been working for WCW on and off for the whole year and not fresh out of school or untrained like Stevie said may be the case ... he wasnt a great wrestler but hes obviously experienced a bit and took a clothesline off the Steiners' shoulders , which for a dude his size is amazing ... i think he was just too damn big to be a jobber and be taking those bumps mainly ... he tried to help both of the Steiners get him up in those matches and they still struggled because hes probably a legit 350 lbs , so the moves they were used to doing on 220 lbs job guys arent so damn easy 😂
Death Row looked like he had his shoelaces tied together when he was bouncing off the ropes.
haha. as soon as you said stu hart I heard in my head, in that gravely voice everyone uses for imitations "eh calm down you big bastard". you can see panic in the eyes of death row when rotunda's got him in that crossface
great review. this is one of my favorite matches only because it's not good but it's also great. for a shoot wrestling match this is about is good as it gets. for a worked match it is what it is, a pro stretching an overly ambitious jobber
Ive liked Stevie for a long time and never quite knew why until now....hes an old school Simpsons fan! You sir have a new Subscriber.
Thank you Stevie you helped me out in a nightmare of a night last night literally. Thank you.
two matches you have to do are the infamous apa vs public enemy on sunday night heat. Apa just straight up whooped PE's asses.
then the often forgotten follow up. apa vs dudleys on sunday night heat. Here you have another legendary ecw tag team facing the backstage bullies. the expectation was the dudleys were going to get stomped and go running to the hills like PE. instead they fought back. since they did fight back, bradshaw and simmons gave them the seal of approval.
Loved mike rotunda, loved the varsity club. Him and corny should have worked together.
The Jobber prob got told back stage who you fighting Mike you can beat Rotunda and then they will have to give you a job.. Rips were a thing Rotunda in a real fight would be able to be most of the top 80s/90s guys
Given the time period with Death Row and Blackwell, wouldn’t shock me if drugs were a factor too. Local Indy guy gets the call, opportunity to show what he’s got, does a different type of “bump” beforehand. Add that to nerves and hopes to get noticed, recipe for disaster.
I'd love to hear Stevie talk about his mocap work for smackdown vs raw
Damn, I somehow don't remember seeing Tully vs Funk and I recorded and watched EVERYTHING over and over wrestling related. Hmmm, I got to find that now!!
Death Row also had a couple matches with the Steiners. They featured him trying to sandbag the Steiners, and them throwing him around anyway, because they are the God Damned Steiner Brothers.
IRS was one of the better "occupation gimmicks" that Vince was obsessed with in the 90s. Once he ran out of already created gimmicks fron the old territory days and had to create his own. All he did was come up with ridiculous job gimmicks. IRS was one of the least bad ones. Probably because he got paired with the Million Dollar Man pretty early and the chemistry was quite good.
"Taming The Bull."
Hey stevie, could you give your thoughts on brock lesnar when he's wrestling bob holly? id love to hear what you have to say about the match and how it went. greetings from australia 🐨🦘🍺