Razer Blade 18 vs Alienware M18 - Which is the best 18" Gaming Laptop?
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- Опубліковано 31 тра 2024
- In this video we put the Razer Blade 18 against the Alienware M18 to see which makes the better choice for your next desktop replacement laptop!
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0:00:00 - Intro and Specs
0:00:46 - Specs
0:01:38 - Externals
0:04:13 - Build Quality
0:04:59 - Ports and RGB
0:07:28 - Deck and Keyboards
0:08:50 - Touchpad
0:10:34 - Speakers
0:11:54 - Screens
0:13:25 - Webcams / Windows Hello
0:13:53 - Internals
0:15:06 - Performance
0:16:24 - Gaming
0:16:52 - Battery Life
0:17:39 - Software
0:19:55 - Warranty
0:20:59 - Conclusion
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For me the Dell Warranty and customer care goes a long way. My 4 year old Area 51m started showing its age and I was offered a full refund by dell after multiple at home repairs. It was a value of around £3000. With the money I was able to get an M18 with the i9-13980HX, 4090, 32GB RAM, 2 TB storage and 3 year warranty to go with it. The crazy thing is I was able to purchase the M18 for less money than what I had bought my Area 51m with in the first place because for the unawares, you can simply ask Dell for a discount which I did and was offered around £400 off the asking price. I ended up paying only £2800 for it. I have never experienced that with other manufacturers which is why I will stick with Alienware products for years to come.
my 4 year old Area 51m just had to have the motherboard, CPU, graphics card and heat sink all replaced (under warranty) but my warranty runs out in Feb 2024. Wish they had offered me a refund.
Yea Dell has the best customer care, period
I still remember Dell marketed the laptop being cpu and gpu upgradeable.
@@Testicleeze in the states you would probably need to file with the BBB or your consumer protection agency for them to do any sort of refund or replacement in the case of it being valid and in your case it could be valid if it is still having problems it can be considered a lemon of sorts
@@shamsielshahar120 I upgraded my Alienware 18 back in the day. Replaced the cpu and upgraded from a 765m to a 780m big difference
The razors keyboard and the fact it looks like a Macbook...is a major deal breaker for me, if i am paying that much i want a full out keyboard with a number pad. That is why i own the Alienware now, Thanks for the review.
Fantastic review, thank you.
Really nicely done. That is what I miss by all other reviews - the comparison at the end. Moneywise and also when money doesn't play a role.
Thank you mate. I do try and look at it from all angles. Obviously I am lucky enough to have the funds to buy these units in but it wasn’t long ago that money was a big factor in the buying decision
Great review, I have an M16 R1, and I will soon get the M18 after much consideration. Thanks for the video. Your videos are honest and well-made. Great production. 👍
Thank you very much :)
For a thousand pounds or less I'd upgrade to the 4090 RTX and more drive space, maybe an extended warranty as well....just like I did. Plus, get it on sale and and discount code too. Great review and spot on.
Thank you for the video. However from a VFX artist viewpoint there are still some ambiguities, for example I would like to know how smoothly and fast the two would run while simulating quite elaborate scenes in Houdini FX, rendering in Houdini karma, creating large levels in Unreal engine and processing high resolution footage in NUKE.
hells yeah. im torn between which one to get. I've got a Razer 17 but it's 4 years old now and it's time to upgrade. Perfect time to see your video
having watched it, which one are you swaying towards?
Perfect review. Lov your videos
Thanks so much!
Excellent, Thank you David.
Thanks for the video! This video in particular answered some of the questions. :) Planning to get next year either a RB 18 or AW m18 - the main question is portability (weight and the sie isn't an issue, but finding the right bag is). If you ever make a video about 14-16-18 inch laptops portability-wise and from another angles - would love to see!
sorry fro slow response I have been so so busy this week! With regards to a 14-16-18" video, this is something I am considering making once I have caught up with reviews! What would you want me to cover? Always good to get viewers input as very often you guys bring things up I hadn't even thought of 😃
@@MashITTech thanks for the response! I'm a SFF PC user with a 27 inch monitor looking for more portability. I'm leaning towards an 18 inch laptop, but afraid of missing some benefits that 14-16 inch laptops can offer. (Sounds stupid, I know). Plan to use the laptop mainbly w/o an external screen. Saw your videon about 13-15-17 inches Razers, loved it. Wondering if 14-6-18 can offer something different or is it mainly the same.
Great comparison! Thank you, yet again, for confirming that I made the right purchase by going with the M18. I cannot see $1000 difference. No USBC charging isn't an issue for me since this is primarily a desktop machine, plugged into the OEM brick. I purchased the 300w slimline charger to pack with the computer when traveling.
Glad you enjoyed it! the m18 is a great release from Dell this year and yes, the PD is less of an issue for a desktop replacement and Dell PSUs are very easy to get hold of. I think you definitely made the right choice
I always enjoy your reviews. Thanks for another grandslam review of two Monsters! I currently run two Razers and most of their periphials. Razer Blade 17 and Razer Blade 16 Mercury addition. I am not a fan of Dell, currently selling all of my XPS computers. Dell's warranty service is less than stellar and has dissappointed me many of times over the past 4 years.
Sorry to hear about your Dell experience, I must have got lucky with mine!
I was very loyal to Dell. I had two XPS 17's, 9700 and 9710 both had Motherboard failures and were never fixed appropiately after having onsite techs repair pc's. They would not fix the ir camera after repair, and wouldn't fix sticking trackpad. I was given the run around over and over again. Never again, lost my business.@@MashITTech
Amazing review thank you very much! I have the Blade 18.. after a year or of use i always like to re thermal my laptops and give it a deep clean. Could you show a video of you doing that on the blade 18?
How would you go about doing that?
Iv never doing anything with a vapor chamber before
Thank you!
How are you liking the Blade 18. Is it good for video editing and how is the screen ?
Your videos are amazing as usual. Thanks! Question, does it deserves in your opinion to compare Dell Alienware M18 (it's in my shopping list, but I didn't checked out yet :) ) with the MSI Titan GT77hx? Many thanks
Yes, MSI make some excellent high performance machines! I haven't managed to get hold of one this year (the trouble with buying all our review laptops means I have to be selective with the laptops I buy, the MSI GT76 I bough last got hardly any views and didn't even cover a 100th of the cost of the laptop 😂
Dell Alienware m18 does your display light controls work? in windows. press the slider or the brightness level or press FN F11 and f10 to change light control, i tested it on mines windows 11 pro light control brightness does not work>? does yours work i have the FND+ screen 18" FHD+ (1920 x 1200) 480Hz, 3ms, Comfort View Plus, NVIDIA G-SYNC + DDS, 100% DCI-P3, FHD IR Camera
Although it is too heavy and big, I would pick m18 over Blade18 if I have to choose between the two even if I have unlimited money. I could spend 1000 for a monitor, a headphone and a burrito.
haha that extra 1000 can go a long way. I agree and if it was my personal money I would have the m18 of the two
@@MashITTechWhat laptop would you recommend for work and play if I have an unlimited budget?
@@MashITTech❤❤❤ What laptop would you recommend for work and play if I have an unlimited budget? 😊😅 ❤❤❤
Hey Mash, I want to ask if alienware m16 r1 (the I9 , 4070 variant) is worth the money?I have to do gaming, coding, software development. Apart from the portability is there any issue?
It is a good machine and if you get a good discount or coupon then yes its worth it, I would never pay retail for one though :)
first of all I congratulate you for the precision and details of your reviews, I was shocked, really compliments. Can I ask you for advice? I would like to buy an alienware M16 or M18, but I don't know how to do the right setup.. I would like to use it for gaming of AAA games and live streaming, what do you recommend? I had a 4080 video card in mind but I don't know how to dial the rest. Thanks for your attention
Thank you mate. M16 and m16 perform very similarly so it really comes down to portability! If you always plan using on a desk and travel with it rarely then the m18 is the way to go. If you think you will travel with it regularly then get the m16. And definitely recommend the 4080, it’s be far the best value/performance card this generation
I have x17 r2 it has 64gb ddr 5 mhz ram, can i swap the 64gb ram with my new M18 with 32gb MT/s?
Hey Mash, do you use external keyboards with these? The built-in ones are great, but I usually use an external keyboard. BTW great video as always.
I always use the laptop keyboards when gaming on the laptop as I hate having to push the laptop further back to fit the external keyboard in front of it. In fact I am actually considering picking up a Razer Tartarus Keypad to see if that is a better option with a laptop
@@MashITTechWhat 16-inch laptop would you recommend for work and play if I have an unlimited budget?
Great review! I'm between these two and legion 7i/9i but still can't decide. 😅 (but it kinda bothers me that the legion has only a 16-inch screen)
Yeah I am really surprised Lenovo didn’t make a legion 18 this year 😢
What 16-inch laptop would you recommend for work and play if I have an unlimited budget?
Great comparison, had a question. I have both the blade 18 and the dell m18 and was trying to figure out which of the 2 I liked more because the other is going back. I heard nothing but good feedback about the speakers on razer blade 18, but I'm not getting the bass that everyone says it has.. in my opinion it almost sounds like the alienware it just a little bit louder. So is there a fix, or has anyone else experienced this? Thanks.
What do you think of the screen side by side
A really nice review thanks, I’m using m18, and was wondering if you use a laptop stand for it. I have one but it seems like it’s interrupting the bottom part where it sucks the air up to release heat better, not sure if I should a laptop stand or not
sorry for my slow response. I usually find just raising the rear is enough to provide better airflow but I am actually in the process of testing a number of different laptop stands to see if they are really worthwhile, going to take me a while to finish the video though as its a lot of testing
@@MashITTechWhat 16-inch laptop would you recommend for work and play if I have an unlimited budget?
Also a big issue with Razor support is that if you do decide to send back your laptop for any kind of repair they have a disclaimer saying they take no responsibility for the laptop while it is not at Razor, so if something happens to it in transit or on its way its your problem.
Dunno if you knew already but you can just disable the touchpad in it's settings. Great comparison BTW! I bought a m18 yesterday! I'm excited!
Yes I did spot that as one of the commands they added. At the moment I just get it to disable when I plug in a mouse as with a mouse plugged in I never use the trackpad anyway 👍
Number Pad is EXTREMELY important for creator who uses 3d software like Blender.
If you have a dedicated video card, for example a 4080 but the screen does not support 4k if you connect to a 4k TV/ Monitor will it run at 4k??
yes, if you plug a 4k TV through the HDMI or thunderbolt it will access the Nvidia card directly and you can set the TV to 4k in Nvidia control panel
Really hope you to compare m18 and legion 9i
Nice review but I like how the Alienware M18 sits higher then the Blade 18 and also like the keyboard better on the M18.
Sir i need help suggestion
I don't know what happebed ro my laptop 3 days ago i used it played and it was running nicely but after today when i open it opend so late and even when i tried opening games the games did opeb after 5 min valorant gave 10 fps god of war 20 like this what haooened i haven't misplaces any settings please helo me i have lenovo legion slim 7i 2022. I don't know itis giving me night mare? plz u are te obky one i ca trust 😥
Add me on insta and start a chat and we will take a look 👍
As a blade 18 user, i would not recommend anybody to purchase the laptop as it has a lot of problems after purchasing it down a few months later. I've had to send the laptop back for RMA 4 times due to quality control issues and it has been a hell of a nightmare to do it. I have to sacrifice 1 month of my time to RMA it which really affects the productivity of my workflow. So for those who wants to buy a laptop at this calibre, i would recommend the ladder instead.
Oh wow, what issues have you faced? Mine has been working flawlessly but maybe I got lucky (and I didn’t buy the 18 until the mercury was released
Now that you've compared both the 18in versions I'd love to see a comparison between their 16in versions. The Alienware m16 and Razer Blade 16 are begging to be compare, especially since 16in is a more popular size for laptops.
I did compare x16 with blade 16 a while ago. I don’t have an m16 in the studio atm but when I next get one in I will compare them
It's an easy win for razer blade, the 16 comes with mini led option and same tdp's as the 18 inch version. Alienware M series is like a budget series, not fair to really compare these 2 laptops
18 inch laptop without a number pad is almost unforgiveable...
How often do you actually use your numpad though?
@AC-io8qs multiple times every day.
@@ScCrash26 Well, for your use case then perhaps. For me a USB numpad works fine as I only use the numpad occasionally and always when I'm at home.
@@ScCrash26Numberpads are stupid. Makes your whole posture shift left. touchpads shift left which puts extra strain on your wrist. All for an extra row of numbers which is already available up top.
Hey i love your videos ! I just wanted to know if it was worth it or not to buy the M18 with the 4060 version even tho its 2k dollars or if i should buy another option for 2k dollars?
That seems way too much for a 4060! You could probably pick up a legion 7 with 4080 for about 2k with a decent coupon code. Have Alienware got no sales or discount codes on in the USA atm?
@@MashITTech oh my bad I'm front France ! But I'll look into it , my budget is only 2200€ so I can't really think of any laptops with better specs than this one , do you have any idea ?
Oh sorry, when you said $ I assumed USA! 2200 is a pretty good budget. Do you have the Lenovo store in France? They have had some really good sales lately. If not wait until Black Friday as Dell normally have some great deals on then
@@MashITTech alright thank you 👍🏾
Can you do a review on the Commodore 64 please
Thank you so much. This is a really helpful comparison for me. Even with all of the cons, I’m choosing the Alienware because this is a secondary machine for me used only for gaming in a dark room.
None of the benefits of the Blade are worth it for me. If I had infinite money, I’d buy the Blade to support the company who seems to be making the best decisions in general (except warranty 😂).
Hey mash what would you choose the blade 18 or the blade 16 with dual uhd+fhd mini led?
Blade 18 every time for me. The mini LED is a great screen but you have to reboot if you want to switch it to 1080p which makes that feature pointless and the 16 runs much hotter. If you travel a lot then the blade 16 could make more sense. I do hope to make a blade 16 vs 18 video soon
@@MashITTech thank you 🙏🏽 i do like bigger screens i was just trying to find something more comfortable for portability i have a alienware x17 r1 and the power brick on tht is colossal and back breaking lol 😂 thanks again
well the blade 18 is a similar size to the x17 and has a much smaller PSU :)
The razers are also notorious for placing their mosfets in the back of the cpu , leading quite often to broken mosfets that end up frying the cpu. No repairs from there are possible. So always choose the laptop with the most space and better cooling. This also apply to the smallers alienwares .Amy chance of dismantling the laptop and inspecting the motherboard ?
on which model?
@@MashITTechthere are no specific laptops. It concerns a line (example models from 2018 to 2021) . This happens because razer and alienware make thinner and smaller laptops than those of other makers whilst keeping the same specs. This generally apply to all those ultrabooks and those near being ultabooks whilst having a dedicated gpu. You can consider it a design choice that is often seen in the laptops of those companies. That is why i am asking for the motherboard.
@@MashITTechAnother example the Asus laptops often fail because the touch-mouse chipset fails. There is no specific model either it can happen to any laptop but for a strange reason in Asus laptops it happens frequently.
@@MashITTechthere is the northbridge youtube channel , there the alienware razer asus laptops appear quite frequently for reapirs.
I meant which model did you want me to show motherboard? And what would you want me to highlight?
so you listened my request huge respect
of course 😃
Just ordered the M18 with i9-13980HX w/ 4090. Its going to replace my R10 Ryzen 9 5900 desktop. Previously I tried and returned the R15 and R16 but didn't like the size of R15, and the R16 with i9 14900KF was more lagging than my current computer on Fusion 360. Hopefully this is the one!
How are you liking your M18 i am thinking of getting one myself. Is it ok for video editing and how is the screen not to dark ?
@MarkHussle I just started using today for CAD design, unfortunately it only uses 1- core for the program and honestly not much of an improvement over my 5900 AMD Ryzen desktop.
The laptop itself is very nice nice. You can tell it has good build quality and plenty of ports. Full sized mechanical keyboard is wide as my normal RedDragon mechanical.
Overall loving it. Compared to a desktop Alienware like R15 and R16, I'd pick the M18 because it's basically the same thing with less ports and portable.
I haven't used screen much since it's a desktop replacement and I hook to a HP Z27 4k screen.
Would you pick the 4090 x16 version over the 4090 razer 16 with 4k mini led? That’s the struggle I’m having. I want that mini LED but Alienware has the better warranty
Can you get a third party warranty? I would say the razer blade is by far the better laptops, better cpu, much better screen, better software (synapse isn’t great but it’s miles better than awcc) upgradable ram and a more compact laptop. The only reason to choose the x16 is better warranty, better speakers and price if you get a good voucher
@@MashITTech I don’t know about the 3rd party warranty. I might be able to. Someone I know personally is selling the blade for $3,000USD. But there’s a 4090 x16 for $2600 on facebook marketplace. I really am leaning more towards the blade because of that mini LED and it’s a heck of a deal
@@MashITTechr u sayingx16 r2 is better speakers are better thsn blsde 18. Im about to decide between m18, x16 r2, blade 18 2024 , and asus strix 18 , asus scar strix 18. I heard x16 r2 sound sick( my bad noticed its ur vid i heard them).edit i thought ireplied to abother person i didnt see it was you. Apologies. Can i ask what the best speakers would be on these choices.
I’d like to see the comparison between the Legion 9i with 4090 Rtx and the Asus Rog Strix G18 4090 rtx please 😢
Can you do a review of the new AMD Advantage M18 with the 7900m + 7945hx
I would love to but dell haven decided not to sell it in the U.K. so I can’t get hold of it 😢
@@MashITTech wow 🤯
Alienware Area51m-R2 in 2024? Yes, let's goo :D I bet it will still work in 2034... (as all my older Alienware laptops... I am making quite a collection, it seems)!
Awesome video, as always...I still wish they would bring back the RGB trackpad like on the older models (and not exclusive to the X series! I want an RGB trackpad and to be able to upgrade RAM and storage... is that too much to ask?! ^_^)
I chose Alienware because they don't sell Razer in Italy and above all because of the price. the alien won over the snake 😂 👽 🐍
Why they don't sell in Italia?
They dont see Alienware too
Overall, would you go for the Alienware m16 or Lenovo Legion pro 7i if they had the same specs?
Wow that's tough. Build is much better on the m16 and the 4080 version has 4 m.2 slots but legion is much brighter screen and better software. Ultimately I would take the m16 (with the 240hz 1600p screen)
I haven't handled the M16, but have owned plenty of Alienware laptops in the past. If I didn't need portability, I'd choose the M16 if price were equal. I do need something I can bring on travels abroad so the M16 has just too big of a footprint for what it is. I'm happy enough with the Legion 7i, even if some aspects were downgraded from last year. The build quality is fine, the screen is excellent and it's a really good all rounder.
Don't forget, that M18 going to looks sweet on set!
Like ur video and u energy bro, but I have really no idea what to buy, DELL Alienware M18 R2 - i9-14900HX/4090/32GВ/1ТВ/18.0 2.5K 165Нz // Lenovo Legion 7 PRO - i9 13900HX / RTX 4090 16GB 175W / 500NIT 16 2.5K 240HZ ( 1024GB - 2048GB / 16GB - 32GB )
What do you think?) what laptop have more quality for a long time
Give me a day, the m18r2 has just arrived and I am about to start testing it
@@MashITTech Really,I’m so lucky man😍
I’ll go with the Alienware of course I just love the outlook of the laptop and the high performance even the price is not that much cheap but it still my favorite ❤️
Sir please make video on Alienware M18 R2 vs blade 18
In all honesty there won’t be any difference to this video except a very slightly different scores. The blade 18 will be getting a new screen option and thunderbolt 5 but it’s not released yet
you can't turn off the track pad on these laptops ?
You can turn them off if you wish, you can also have it disable when you plug in a mouse, I covered this in the blade 18 review as I encountered a few accidental touches on touchpad
what USB C can i use for razer balde 16 ?
do you mean charger?
@@MashITTech yes cause people told me ugreen 100 w not good also anker. I want small size charger with 100w or 120w
They both seem great, but the support from alienware to fix any issues you might have is just so important with something that expensive. if the blade had that type of customer service I would buy from them instead.
good point
Alienware has not changed their laptop design for a long time now. DO love the full keyboard
Hey dude would you consider reviewing the Acer Predator Triton 17x (2023) model as there are no in depth reviews on it and it’s a beast of a laptop with a 250hz 17 inch Mini LED option screen with some serious specs .
Let me see if I can get hold of it. Acer aren't that big in the UK :(
@@MashITTech I had to import my Predator Triton 14 from amazon US, the Acer store in my country (Ireland) is pretty hopeless at stocking all the latest releases. The mini LED display is super bright, especially with HDR content in games. The surface temps are cool enough to touch while gaming in Performance mode and build quality is decent enough too except for some squeaky sounds around the arrow keys. I would say the larger 17" Predator is a decent enough laptop too. Again, warranty is a big issue, mine effectively has none as warranty is US only.
@@MashITTechif you have a Currys PC World near you in the UK you can generally get a Acer Predator Triton 17x (2023) model from there but on their website it’s called the Acer Triton 17x
thanks mate, I will go an take a look
@@MashITTech Hey 👋 love your content MashIT one more thing just a thought but would the Blade 18 battery with a fan built into it fit into the blade 16’s battery and would the fan from the battery help improve the thermals of the blade 16 ? You could try it since you have both I’m assuming would be cool if it did fit then you could do an update on thermals or perhaps it doesn’t fit at all and it won’t really matter worth a try though!
Hello! Perfect review, alienware from the future, futuristic desigh, very like, but 100C on the cpu is disgusting, very dissapointed. Best regards! 👍
yes, it is annoying but its how Dell leave it out of the box! You can adjust that in BIOS if you prefer, anywhere from 85-100c
@@MashITTech Thx, sir! Do you remember what temperatures on the cpu at idle? Thx, for the reply! Cheers!
@@MashITTech Is undervolting possible, and power limit for the cpu?
Razer white is just so good, I bought alienware 17 backpack just for future razer 18 laptop lol
I mean if I could game on that all day with like medium settings in games like Runescape I would call that a win. But, everytime I see laptop I think no matter what you put in it, it's gunna run like a gtx1050 after about 15 minutes unless you put it in portrait mode so the heat rises. lol.
I sure can't wait until the next GPU (50 series) comes to these and OLED screens become more ubiquitous. 2024 or 2025 is going to be pretty great.
Every year for the last 5 was the year OLED was to become more ubiquitous. The OEM's surprise pivot to Mini-LED for this year's premium option was imo a huge indicator that they just don't want to deal with OLED on laptops.
@@killerra brightness is certainly an issue. I’d settle for mini-led if it has enough zones, but I still think I’ll wait it out to see where the manufacturers go. By 2025 there should be some conformity among the manufacturers.
@@robe4314i think OLED will finally be ready for non disposable products without unacceptable tradeoffs in 2028 give or take a year.
15:56 I just noticed that razer has 32 gb of system memory while alienware has 16 gb only
I bought the m18 with 16gb but upgraded them both to 64gb fury ram to be fair in the testing
If only Alienware made an Area-51m-like variant of the M18, I would go with Alienware in a heartbeat.
However, this is Razer Blade 18 versus Alienware M18. If I had to pick either to purchase, I would pick Razer.
I was planning on getting the new M18 until I saw the location to the network jack and SC card. Total deal breaker for me.
Yeah it’s like the person designing the laptop has never actually used one 😂
@@MashITTech I totally agree. Looks like Razer may actually get my upgrade money this coming Spring.
i do like Alienware having the mini-display port
ASUS ROG STRIX SCAR 18
ACER PREDATOR HELIOS 18
MSI TITAN 18HX
ALIENWARE M18
RAZER BLADE 18
Which is the best 18" Gaming Laptop ????
I choose Dell for software, warranty and pcb reliability
I've found that Razer's technical support falls short, especially in firmware updates and stability, compared to Dell Alienware. Dell offers superior display options, making gaming more comfortable and delivering better performance. When it comes to ASUS and MSI, their gaming laptops often prioritize marketing with flashy benchmarks, but Alienware stands out for delivering genuine quality and performance, making it my preferred choice for my next laptop.
I have now Razer 18 and in the past I was with ASUS, MSI. Next one is Alienware
I like these reviews but in the end for a lot of people it will always come down to price
The M18's from Best Buy, unfortunately all have AMD CPUs, and both variants (tried both) have serious issues and make the laptop damn near unusuable. I returned both models within a day of owning each. The 1st one, more expensive model with the Radeon RX 7900m had 2 defective ports on the back. The 2nd one I returned today (as of this post) as it was perofmring poorly, games would crash, even watching a youtube video it seemed to struggle to do. The cheaper model (only about $200 cheaper) has a RTX 4070 in it. I can't speak for the intel variants of the M18, but the AMD variants, really suck this year and it's disheartening. I need a new gaming. laptop and don't want anything that's available right now......I have store credit so i'm stuck purchasing from Best Buy.
Great - really nice job! I know the Alienware is the smarter choice, but I'll probably get the Razer (hopefully Best Buy will have some kind of promotion on Thanksgiving).
haha I don't blame you, its an amazing machine! lets hope there are some good Black Friday discounts!
The price difference gets even worse with the 4090 cards, partially because Razer forces you to pick the maximum SSD and installed RAM options at the usual insane upcharge.
The m18 you can still minimize both to upgrade yourself for far, far less which results in probably more like ~$1500 or more extra for the razer blade at the same specs assuming you also upgrade it to 64gb ram and a 2tb SSD, probably worse given you could just get a 1TB to pair with the 1TB it comes with and match the 2TB the razer forces. (Or just get a 4TB or more card and still be out for less money.)
Honestly given how easy it is to swap out SSD and RAM I don't really understand why these companies charge so much for upgrading them out of the box. You can't even argue it's a matter of labor given they're putting cards in either way and it's fantastically more than the extra hardware actually costs to a truly obscene degree.
It’s pure greed, as you say if you want the best gfx card they are going to force you to pay through the nose for extra ram and ssd which you could do yourself. I also find it so annoying as I would always prefer to buy minimum ram and ssd and add my own and choose the ram and ssd brands I want
End result was I just went with the m18 recently, since that one let me minimize both and turn around to buy a 990 ssd and Kingston Fury ram (the same one you used for your upgrade a few months back) AND extend the warranty to two years.And even after all that you still end up way cheaper despite it being better ram and ssd. Still waiting for it to arrive, though. Only ordered it a few days ago.
I will get one Dell M18 and one HP 4090 together ❤️
Nice beastly laptops.
I got the Razer hate the keyboard but is a nice package. Only reason I keep it,
Totally agree, it’s why I bought the Tartarus pro, so much more comfortable when gaming on the laptop and then when I am at the desk I use a keyboard and monitor
Include MSI GT77 also... 😉
haven't managed to get my hands on a GT77 yet :(
Desktop replacements are always a strange mix of priorities and compromises. Even at 18", it's still small compared to a standard 27" monitor, 32", or even the increasingly popular 48" OLED. The Alienware looks like a dinosaur in comparison to the razer. The large bezels, large butt, and soft touch black make it look extra clunky and not clean. I doubt anyone seriously moves this large thing around the house, or uses it on the go. If you have it permanently set up as a true desktop replacement, then you will undoubtedly have an external monitor and keyboard and mouse. It's way easier to fit that sort of setup with the razer on a desk. And of course, the razer actually supports PD charging and can fit in a standard 17" laptop and is much lighter. That's the intended scenario. Portable for occasional outside use but mostly plugged at home. The days of needing the biggest chassis for cooling are gone. The unibody chassis of the razer is gonna be much better for durability when moved around. The alienware is just a poor man's razer, unfortunately. It baffles me why Dell doesn't have a beefed up version of the XPS line for gaming.
Poor mans razer? I'm in top 20 timespy laptop GPU scores with the M18, it has twice as good cooling, and doesn't look bad at all.
My Alienware is really nice except it is noisy, and its fan blows hot air on the right hand side where my mouse is located.
Unfortunately most gaming laptops are too noisy :( but yes, the right vent can be annoying, same with legions. Razer Blades don't have this issue as it is all pumped through the vent
razers keyboard and mackbook like looks for a gaming laptop is already a huge deal breaker for me
Omg so many great things about the blade 18 but the m18 is also great the screen for the blade is a lot better than the m18 but the m18 has the number keyboards and all the inputs in the back but the software is mid but razers software is better CHOICES WHYYYYYYY
Do people really lug around a 18inch laptop? If I had any of those I wouldn’t be taking these tanks anywhere besides from room to the next.
alienware should release x18 version of m18
yes they should have!
Razer 18 all the way. A 300nits screen is terrible looking compared to over 500 nits. What’s the point of an amazing laptop if the brightness is worse than a Nintendo switch
No full keyboard on the 18 inch razer makes it non starter for serious folks.
bUt iT's tHe RaZeR pHiLoSoPhY
I have the AW M18, and I agree with you about the Command Center. There are a lot of glitches, and i seriously wonder why Alienware would damage its reputation by putting out such half-baked software. It does affect performance, in that it has trouble switching back and forth between profile settings, and it feels like it eats up computing resources by getting itself tied into knots. Alienware is really tone deaf about the Command Center, which is regrettable. All in all, my M18 is a beauty and it is powerful, but the Command Center is a big enough minus that i would seriously reconsider buying another AW again
The sad fact is that the old AWCC (the version before this and previous version) was so much better! loaded faster, you could adjust lighting from taskbar and it easily switched on and off with keyboard shortcuts. How in 5 years can they put out 2 new versions which are each worse than the last! It's not like they do not have the budget to employ a decent team! You are completely right, they are tone deaf. I have conversations with Alienware management and I have moaned repeatedly yet nothing changes
I wanted to know about temps
I heard ,new units dont run too hot ,maybe they have repasted new units.
Correct me if i m wrong
10x
@@zayanhacker9133 well, with my M18, if I keep it at the Overdrive setting, I rarely get an overheating problem (i.e., computer just shuts off). It's an issue when you adjust in Custom settings and try to max out as much as possible. It's always the CPU that overheats, never the GPU, at least with my M18, and it has proven difficult to fine-tune to avoid crashes. It can easily reach 100°C and then it will either shut your computer down, or it will throttle the CPU down significantly. But keeping it at Overdrive is plenty good enough, won't see overheating, and with the 13900hx, i'm getting 17000 or so for CPU on Overdrive for TimeSpy (up to even 19200 on Custom, but it crashes often, depending on the game).
getting FHD at 18 inches is bonkers to me, it's going to look like crap
It actually doesn't look bad in person
before watching this video, my thoughts: if you are going to type, use the Alienware, if you are not typing much, Razer
True also razer is better if you want the more compact option
if you had the correct color Razer, this would be a better comparison
😂 I had to get the Mercury this time sick of finger prints
Dnt go for cause it will take your battery
No more laptops until they have OLED 4k 240Hz
For design i like alien ware but for busines design i like razer look simple but cool❤❤
But for gaming quality i like alienware because the alien ware is a the first legend laptop gaming in the world😂😂
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I rhink the razer is a 1000 pounds better the screen on the dell is unforgivable
hey @mashit what's that test video you're using for sound tests?
We use infractions copyright free music on UA-cam :)
Sorry but I disagree on Alienware decided to run CPU freely at 100C. that's actually a failure since m17s & m15s Alienware failed to deliver cool thermal solution with 3 fans 4 fans 5 fans.. Therefore, that 100C Cpu Temp going go give thermal throttle in-game badly under balance mode, to make it better you are limited to run on extreme fan mode which is disappointing or UV the cpu. Where Razer have limited the wattage to save extra power which you most likely won't notice much in game.. But you will never have thermal issues + keeps the thermals under control. Big Clap To Razer 👏👏
Whilst I agree with your logic, Dell have always let there CPUs boost as much as possible until it hits 100c (where as the Blade 18 is capped at 65w on mixed load). This has the benefit of allowing the CPU to run at higher clock speeds than the blade in gaming at the expense of 100c. You can change this behaviour in BIOS from 85-100c but Dell never make that clear! Now with regards to the actual cooling being good enough, I think it is when you get a good thermal paste job which can be very hit or miss from Dell which I agree is shocking
@@MashITTech hmm, yeah. they kinda dumb to make end-users to these moves to be able to have stable results. for my experience I will never buy AW laptops.. I have used M17 r1,r2,r3,m17 r1 2019, r2.. They all has same issues with thermals and I always had to re-paste them and use Throttle stop to reduce CPU ghz and get stable temps.. Every year they mention new cooling solutions but the end you will notice your $4000k that spent on garbage deal where u could get like $3600 MSI or Asus similar specs if not better and no issues with thermals and softwares issus. I am selling my current m18 to switch to MSI raider or Asus scar. I have had enough from Alienware.
the 100C is a factory mishap. I repasted the M18 with conductonaut and enjoy 65C on CPU (110W) and 52C on GPU (175W) in a 300W sustained load. So far it has got me into top 20 TimeSpy scores ever achieved on a laptop GPU.
That's the case with me, every damn year I have to repaste it TWICE, just wait until your repaste gets dried from this bad thermal design, then you will figure out that there is something wrong with the heatsink design I have no clue who engineers this heatsink but defiantly one of the worst thermal designed heatsink out there, even acer Predator has better one @@Smoke_Weed_Everyday_
i like minimalistic designs, but not in my gaming laptop. light that shit up. razer doesn't even look like a gaming laptop.
please alienware bring back area 51m
it has quad channel and upgrdable desktop competents including gpu
Yeah I just loved my 51m r2 😢
its crazy how it still keeps up even! and now all the used gpus are available at good prices so who ever still has this machine can upgrade@@MashITTech
Razer costs 1k more having the same configuration! wth??
Razer pricing is nuts which is why even though I prefer the blade I would recommend most get the m18
intel, nvidia, amd, etc, charge laptop makers more money for components if they dont put their stickers on the laptop, and the blade comes with none. . . . .maybe that's what makes people think it's more premium idk
m18 by you
alienware looks better
I can speak from personal experience with both. Do not buy a razer laptop. I spent $4500 on the 17 2022 and it only lasted 2 years. Do yourself a favor and research yourself. Many unhappy razer customers out there. I will never buy a razer laptop again. Expensive lesson.
You forgot the battery life
Battery life at 0:17:00 👍