I Got Bent - Vestibular Decompression Sickness (DCI) is Seriously NOT FUN!
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- Опубліковано 27 січ 2024
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Andy, really pleased that your outcome was good. Death or long term paralysis really put's a crimp in SCUBA diving.
Years back I was on a course (nothing to do with diving) and a comment the instructor made was (something like) 'Disaster planning is so difficult because a disaster is what happens when the situation exceeds the plan' - In other words, with diving, you dive as safely as you can but human physiology (for each of us, as an individual and virtually moment by moment) is variable. So the dive that you might do safely tomorrow, can gove you the bends today.
LIFE: It's not about avoiding risks, you can't, it's about minimizing them. That's the best that any of us can do.
Thanks for sharing Bud.
Great description. Scary thoughts about how the body has reacted to this situation. 🤝👍✊
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Thanks for sharing Andy. 100% oxygen at 18m is a ppO2 of 2.8 not 18
You’re quite right pal! Fried my brain it all has 😂
@@UKDiver hope you’re back to 100% ASAP. I’m going to share your vid with my BSAC club members.
Thanks for posting...
Very crazy story! It really shows the value of having someone with you to act as your advocate... unless you really didn't want your gall bladder. Glad to hear you are doing well!
Decompression theory is all about probability- eg if it’s a 1 in 100 dive probability of developing DCS, you’re bent in 1 of 100 dives… it’s a question of when, not if. The only way we can mitigate risk is being conservative re time, age, fitness, body composition etc etc
Agree 100% , and these dives were simple but not conservative, conservative is not going near deco. Conservative is not skipping the 3mins safety stop. Add cold water, fitness, and complacency - this is a text book DCI scenario. Glad you’ve recovered.
Great video
Good to see you back on the mend Andy.
Andy, glad your recovered/on the mend. I will definitely share a link to my dive club in the hope your experience will advise them should a similar thing happen to them. Safe diving.
Deffo need to make sure you call the Diver helpline number, not individual dive chambers. That I think was deffo my biggest mistake. It’s not helped by the fact the chambers all give you there own number and don’t promote the national one, but that’s the one you need 👍
Glad you made a good recovery. I got cns dci end of August this year. Headache, double vision, balance all over the place. 2 weeks daily at Rugby and another 2 weeks for symptoms to settle. Sadly most likely due to a PFO so knocked the diving on the head.
Glad to hear you've made a full recovery Andy. In the spirit of this being a learning exercise I think the biggest mistake was not the chamber numbers but the lack of an Oxygen set amongst the diving party. It seems like it was almost 2 hours from the onset of symptoms before O2 was started when the ambulance arrived. What's the point of being a trained oxygen administrator and not having any oxygen! Even though a standard 3 litre set may not last that long it's got to be better than nothing.
I take your point but the cost of an O2 set isn’t cheap. The club has one (currently out of action as no one will test the cylinder as we’re not using the European standard as we’re not in Europe anymore and the government hasn’t specified an up to date standard for the testing stations to comply to - isn’t brexit fun!) but I’m not tempted to shell out the £1k to carry one with me and I’m not sure most people would. Capernwray obviously has some as do all registered dive centres and when out on a boat you have access to O2. I think a better idea, for me, would be not having to wait 2 hours for an ambulance / paramedic to arrive. Supposing I’d had a heart attach or a stroke? I’d have likely been dead by the time they turned up. And it wasn’t like I was in the wilds. I was on the Manchester ring road!! It’s about time the vast amounts of money we pay in national insurance actually goes to pay for what it’s supposed to and we start properly funding our NHS.
@@UKDiver We tend to dive from our own boat/shore in the sticks so an oxygen set is a priority for us. I suppose each to their own. Take care when you get back in the water.
Thanks for sharing, diving in Malta once, very similar situation, nothing that obvs from dive about 6 did pretty much same profile but a girl got bent, turns out she had a really hot shower.... When u said u got in car turned heaters up yo max etc... I thought ummmn could that have done it? 🤔 If you were fully clothed but still cold enough to have to get all the heating on maybe you raised body temp too quickly and a nitro bubble expanded too quickly as a result? Any what a scary thing glad u got through it...
Very interesting. Personally I think because as you said it was about 2 hrs after the dive you must of thought it was something else . Now if that happen say after a shore dive you would have called the coast guard. If a crew arrived to you in ambulance at the side of the road they wouldn’t know any better. Unless myself thinking shit he’s been diving. Hopefully the ED will do a reflective, and learn from your incident
Any way some very good points luckily in my area forth valley don’t get any bent divers . But glad you are on the count down to diving again Andy 👍
Couldn’t fault the ambulance crew mate. They knew they didn’t know owt about it straight away. I guess the docs in A&E are used to being the experts but in this case they weren’t. I’m not saying they should all be trained up. I think it’s deffo up to us as divers to manage this and get in touch with the right people at the right time. I should have called the diver accident helpline straight away. Then I’d have been straight off to the Wirral and wouldn’t have had to bother the kind folk at Salford. We just thought it needed highlighting that as a dive manager, you need to make sure the casualty is heading to the right place or you never know what might happen 👍
@@UKDiver is how we learn from say our mistakes. But you highlighting your incident will help others . Myself have now have the numbers for Scotland and England chambers just incase. Myself on jobs that we come across that we don’t know the medical conditions we will read up on it hopefully the crew will do the same and tell others crew mates . As you mentioned Entonox is not be giving to divers that have been diving in the last 24 hrs . Thats all I would have known about divers incidents . Glad you be diving soon and no more issues 👍
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At 39:40 you say you were breathing 100% O2 at 18 metres and from that you calculate it was ppO2 of 18.... MATE BACK TO THE POT WITH YA!
You’re too late pal. Someone has already corrected my maths 😂😂 I’m blaming pothead for the rubbish calculations 😜
@@UKDiver Sorry m8, didn't see it. But glad you made it and thank you for sharing that