To the ladies who hide their masculinity under the guise of a "go-getter", if your man says that he's okay with you proposing to him or taking care of him financially he is lying to you & to himself. Subconsciously he feels emasculated by your actions. And because he is too effeminate to speak his true feelings he will lash out in small ways. Like during an interview on nation wide broadcast tv show🤦🏾♀️.
And this is exactly why I say a toxic man is toxic no matter what race they are. No race of men is better than the other. It’s all up to the man’s character. Plain and simple.
I’m so glad she made it a point to say men of all races because too often I see women who think the solution to their dating problems is just to sleep with men of other races rather than have boundaries, standards, and discernment.
@@toriyt2714 I agree. I see a lot of women putting other races of men in pedestals and I just smh and keep it moving. They are bad people in all races, including men AND women. Morals, character, and actions are what makes a good man.
Jodi Turner-Smith does not understand how to protect her own image. She admitted that her relationship with her husband started as a one-night stand on a talk show. Then, Joshua tells the world that his wife proposed. Both of them have left themselves open for public ridicule.
@@picknomoremokgotho2959 I agree that’s exactly what I thought how things went down. I will say how things start have a lot to do with how they play out.
Why are married couple humiliating their spouses in public? This is a trend that needs to stop. Whether you are on social media or late night talk show, embarrassing your partner for publicity does not help the marriage.
That other lady (I think her name is tabitha) who announced she's retiring her husband is another example of exposing marriage details with the public. You expose your partner to social media ridicule.
She's tired of waiting and wants to be married by any means necessary. She's tired of waiting for men to propose, because of the social construct and stigma surrounding who is supposed to propose.
I had a few that tried that with me, had to switch up quick 😂🤪😬😜 Lol. Gotta be honest with them to save us both a long heartache. I think the reason most women don’t want to be alone, they rather find someone to grow old with. Most relationships are superficial nowadays, it’s all about money & not getting to really no one another, a world of illusions.
I had a Colombian guy that wanted me to chase after him. I told him i dont even chase after my dog so what makes him think that i will chase him. That was the end of that. A lot of feminine qualities in males nowadays. Its disgusting
Let me tell you what I know without a doubt to be true about a man who is truly in love with his wife. He will never ever say anything about her or let anyone speak about her in a negative light. Men do not play about that with their wives that they are in love with. I’m so glad made it a point to say men of all races because too many times I see women think the solution to their dating problems is to just sleep with men of other races not have standards boundaries and discernment for themselves.
This!!! There are even channels that promotes that too. And it's a very dangerous mindset to have, because when any man hurts that woman, she would truly feel a hurt like no other, she will be very confused. Never ever date a man because of his race, never make that a priority.
Telling the world that she proposed was totally unnecessary. The final nail in the coffin was adding that she was “adamant” which paints her as aggressive. Just so much to unpack here. Smh.
He's been around for many years and has some long time loyal white fans. Some might not approve of this interracial marriage. He cleared up some perceptions they might have and let them know he did not initiate this marriage.
I saw a girl comment on an Instagram blog that she will mop the ocean before she proposes to a man!😂 My biggest fear when it comes to role reversal is that unlike most women who will turn a man down instantly when they aren't interested, a some men would gladly waste years of your life, exploiting your domestic, emotional and maybe even finacial labour, on his journey to becoming their best self and finding their true love!
I feel her😂😂😂. My cousin rushed to get married and I remember telling her I like to see my man take charge of things in my marriage (obviously I help)atleast do the basic of provide. She said she doesn't mind providing infact she told me she bought their home. She also pays for holidays, flights etc since she earns way much more than the man. I told her I ain't doing that.
I don't think neither of them find the way the proposal happened to be embarassing, he didn't seem embarrassed for being a man that accepted a woman's proposal. I think your interpretation of what happened is because you would be embarrassed, but this couple is not you so please keep that in mind. Does him protecting her mean that he needs to protect her from people who interpret her proposal the way you did? Is that what you're asking him to protect her from? They both seem okay with the way it happened. They're not hiding it cause there's nothing to hide. Now, personally, I couldn't do but that's just a personality thing. But there are some people that are just go- getters, they know what they want and won't sit around in-wait hoping and praying that the thing they want will happen. They make things happen and she seems to be that type. Let them be. If he resents it, he should not have married her or maybe he's not the type of guy that can be with a woman like her. Either way, if he's actually telling the truth of what happened, there's no shame in the truth. It just shows that his wife is a go- getter. Believe it or not, some people wish they were.
He bragged because it was a confidence boost to his ego that she proposed. In a roundabout way he made her sound like the aggressive black woman stereotype.
It’s that, and something else. He’s trying to keep his fan base happy, and so his announcement must’ve been his way of letting them know that he didn’t choose Jodie. Now they don’t feel threatened by his marriage to a BW.
@@sweetstormz I absolutely agree with that. People think because they don't recognize him as a major movie star that he's not a wealthy and successful actor. He's been acting since he was a child and lots of people have grown up with him. He always has acting work. He's successful and wealthy. Yes that proposal story was directed at explaining things to his long time white fan base that he did not initiate this marriage.
@@sierraleone5304 It looks like they broke up briefly, because she was clammering all over her co star at the time and she was seen with someone else as well. They got back together and it became more serious.
Exactly! He said Yes. They had a wedding . He waited for her at alter. He said I do. He signed the marriage certificate. He submitted to all of it. It’s sounds like his problem to me. 🤷🏽♀️
Agreed. He didn't have to accept the proposal. But he obviously wanted to show her as the "aggressor" as a form of some "power play"...weird. He should have just turned her down until HE was ready to propose HIMSELF.
He wanted the world to know how desirable he is and how much power he has over her. It's both a male ego thing and the race dynamic. Bad move Jodie. Proposing to a man or playing the masculine role will lead to him ALWAYS having leverage over you. He knows you care more and have far more to lose than him. The one who cares the least has the most control in the relationship. Ladies, always maintain your leverage.
@@fazenuget8403 Unless she lied about being on birth control or being infertile, its also on the man to take steps to NOT chance getting a woman pregnant
If me having a husband is contingent on me proposing, I will never ever have a husband. I will be 180 years old and go to heaven before I ever propose. It is bad enough out here in these streets that men think women are supposed to chase them. They got this thing twisted. I'm not gonna chase them. I'm not gonna to persuade them. I'm not going to encourage them, as to why they should be with me. A MAN should know what he wants when he steps to me, and if he doesn't I will decide for him and he will be dismissed.
I’ve done this. Was asked to “exchange” numbers. I think he mistook me for thirsty and thought that I would call him. He texted me a couple of times, but nothing came of it. I took myself to the movies. I don’t chase. I don’t beg. I don’t owe anyone a damn thing. Time is money and he can do the non dusty thing and pay.
Jodi is so beautiful but she is a bit disappointing. She comes off too desperate and she always ends up with egg on her face. She is always making embarrassing statements she shouldn’t. Just like the time she mentioned about having a one night stand with Joshua. Joshua also knew what he was doing. He basically wanted everyone to know who is the aggressor in the relationship. He wanted to look like the desired one here
She kept insisting that she is the one who saw him first and kind of facilitated the meeting in a subtle way… which is great, but why do you have to tell people??? Lol. It’s not a good look. Better to just be quiet about certain things.
My Mom always taught me the way to get a Man to take action in your relationship is to, let him know what YOU plan to do, and then do it (i.e. if you need to, walk away) In the past I’ve walked away…by the time they come running back, I don’t want them no more. Space gives ppl time to realize some things, lol.
Honestly he could have just said no to the proposal and proposed to her if this bothered him so much. Such a tacky move. His feelings are his fault. I don't condone Jodie's proposal and I also think he lacks the backbone to make the moves he needs to make that show masculinity and leadership decision-making. What's up with him not marrying his long-term partners?? I can understand why Jodie didn't wait for him to propose given his track record with his past relationships since he is a seemingly wealthy man and she would have much to gain in terms of that. But issa no for me.
His previous partner didn't want to get married, and she repeated that over and over, because she had been married before and she didn't want to do it again.
Joshua didn't know the harshness of racism until people started saying hateful things about their interracial relationship. He's probably thinking I know some of you white people don't approve of my relationship but please still don't cancel me or stop watching my show (s). The marriage wasn't my idea.
That’s how men are lol. Yes their feelings are THEIR own but if you contributed to it or are there while they’re in the thick of feeling it, you’re gonna somehow get affected. That’s the way men in general are. I was involved with a white guy in a situationship (that I stupidly pursued) and when the relationship began to crumble he took passive aggressive routes to end the relationship. They might go along with it but that doesn’t mean anything.
She started off wrong. She said it was a one night stand and went from there. She started chasing him and then PROPOSED to this man after taking him on a beautiful vacation in Nicaragua. She is the man in the relationship and I think it subconsciously really bothers him. I think he felt emasculated and that's why after her interview he immediately did his own, and aired her out. She was a pick me from the beginning and a huge feminist so this is no surprise.
Omg 😳 this marriage will end soon if that’s the case. I’m so disappointed because I was rooting for their marriage I thought she was in her feminine position and him in his masculine
@@picknomoremokgotho2959 How do you know she took him on a vacation? You don't and they went with friends and family. So, it wasn't just the two of them.
A lot to unpack here. Bottom line, he was feeling emasculated and wanted to low key flex his control. She was getting all the attention. He probably also blames himself for not being more assertive. On the other hand, Jodie was playing to win, at any cost. She found out what the price was .. It was time for her to pay up.
I don't think he blames himself for not being more assertive. Because if he did, he wouldn't blast it on social media. Now I do agree with you on Jodie . It took her becoming pregnant to come to her sense and realize, the severity of her position.
Marriage was how you generated wealth for centuries. Even if the woman came from money, by marrying, all of her wealth was transferred to her husband. Marriage has definitely changed in the modern times but let’s not pretend it’s conception wasn’t to benefit the lives of single men.
@Sean Ewing married men live longer according to studies on this. Are more relaxed due to the woman doing more of the domestic work like cooking, laundry, cleaning. And if she works, she most likely will pitch in on some of the bills. Will hold the brunt of child rearing. Just overall support in times of need from the wife. A single man has to do a lot more for himself.
@Sean Ewing Getting married increases men getting promotion at work because he's seen as responsible. Married women on the other hand are seen as a liability, because she could possibly end up pregnant. That would possibly require time off for maternity leave. Which means the company could become short staff on the one person who was possibly growing the company. Imagine being the CEO of a company that has a brilliant employee who helped the company to make millions. Now that same person isn't available because they're on maternity leave. Paternity leaves are extremely short, and some companies don't even offer paternity leave. Also, married men usually live longer on average than single men. Married men are more likely to sit down to a nutritious meal than a single man would. Married men are more likely to have a partner who will work out with him, and keep him accountable. He's more like to be chasing and wresting after kids, which is a workout in itself. His wife and children are more likely to push him or influence him to get yearly checkups. The wife is more likely the one to do the heavy lifting when it comes to taking care of the children....meaning taking the time to cook,feed, change diapers, bathe children, do hair, read books at bedtime, help with homework etc. Leaving him more leisure time to take care of his well being. That's why it benefits men more than women. Oh I forgot, single father aren't seen in a negative light as much as single mothers. So even if a divorce takes place, he has a higher chance of a childless woman wanting him, than a single mother has of a child free man wanting her.
I’d rather remain single if I have to beg and bleed for a man to marry me. I hope and pray that all the women can have the strength to make the right choice which is to leave than settle for someone who you will end up proposing to. This is some next level embarrassment, I feel bad for Jodie. You never want a man to feel as though he was forced to marry you as he reflects years into the marriage.
Amen Niana!!! Ain't no man worth chasing after or gettin down on one knee and proposing marriage to. Men nowadays have position themselves to where you have to pursue them. I'm like this if I gotta chase after man or propose marriage to him. That's sign right there he ain't that one!!! I feel sorry for Jodie cause shows how desperate she is. This is no laughing matter.
This is the crack in the marriage. It’s out in the open now. The countdown to the divorce is on. He didn’t choose her. He didn’t protect her reputation, he humiliated her. I wish she hadn’t proposed.
It’s what she wanted. He was the prize in her eyes. She said it was a white man that made her feel beautiful. Sad it wasn’t her white husband that made her seem special.
Yes After first seeing him in an old interview, where he was asked what are jodi's cravings during her pregnancy?He answerd oreo cookies. Than I knew what they have/had is just an illusion. He does not respect het. Does not like her. She gives him a spotlightand he is takkng full advantege of that. He hasn't been for years in the spotlight. Now that he is with jodi he is all over. Jodi is a fool she is the one not seeing her own value. Put yourself on that pedastole and knock that boy of it. People are interested in you jodi not that manchild your dating.
Ooooh! I'd be so angry with him. He basically let it be known that he was perfectly happy with the way things were without the ring. It will be interesting to see if they stay together long term. I think it's not a good start. Now, if anything goes wrong or he gets tired of her the first thing he'll say is, "I never wanted to get married in the first place but you forced me."
It was ONLY two months of dating, sheesh. These two were just having sex carelessly, she ended pregnant and wanted to save face probably to her family. I predict the marriage will be short. He was on the rebound when he began dating Jodie. Smh.
We have to be very cautious putting any man on a pedestal, especially wm. Many wm know that they're viewed as a prize and take full advantage. However when they're over you or want to embarrass you they will throw it right back in your face that you need to grow a backbone and get some self esteem and stop throwing yourself shamelessly at their beck n call.
That just it they are not the prize. Woman are the prize and especially black woman. Black woman have everything. And can do almost anything they set their minds on. Make yourselves the prize. Never put a man before you !
This is true! Since the new "level up trend" is scoring "wm", spins another dangerous narrative for black women to seem desperate. I say it all the time dating white is not always the solution, there are some bottom shelf Brads lurking too
@@BeeRichWitch I've been seeing more and more homeless white men who are not shy about begging black women for money. Black women need to do research on every man they meet and not assume non black men are in a position to give them a high class life
When I was pregnant at 25 with our 1st everyone was asking me why I wasn’t pressuring my then boyfriend to marry me before the baby was born. I would tell friend’s that they should be asking him that question. I told my sister that I refused to pressure anyone so that they can’t throw that back in my face talking about “it wasn’t their choice I forced it on them”. He did eventually propose on his own WITHOUT me telling/asking him to do so. I refuse to propose to any man, they will never be ok with that kind of move.
My bestie's parents insisted she and her children's father get married after they had their first child together. Marriage only last 3 years. They only pushed for the marriage because they didn't want her living with them while he was stationed on the opposite side of the country. My bestie also had an older child whose father wasn't in the picture but her boyfriend wanted to be a father to her. Yet he told my bestie's mom that he didn't want to adopt the little girl because he didn't want to pay child support for her if it didn't work out. Her mom didn't tell her that until after they split up.
This reminds of when Ryan Philippe embarrassed his then wife Reese Witherspoon at an awards show because she had become the bigger star and was making way more money than him. I knew their marriage was doomed after that.
@@hotties3v3n While announcing the 2002 Oscar winner for achievement in makeup together, Phillippe, told Witherspoon that she could read out the winner's name, saying, "You make more than I do, so go ahead." A passive-aggressive F U if I ever heard one.
@@dominiquejones6758 wowww I did not know this...same old story...these men are so fragile, its tragic for everyone involved. Women can't even be their best versions of themselves without stepping on men's toes...the bar is really so low
I had talked to Canadian guy that lives here in the states. He was soft, unmasculine, and couldn't lead. He claims he is so used to black women chasing him and being available at the drop of the hat for him. He only dated black women and they would always pay for everything thing. Oh we definitely didnt work out and I was wondering how masculine are Canadian men raised to be.
I live in Montréal and Canadian men are very unmasculine and they don’t engage at all and a lot of Canadian women here go 50/50 or even 80/20 where the 80 is for the women… This is why I am grateful for Chloe_ ´s channel .. because ouf 😥 it’s not that green on the other side …
You can tell Jodie suffers from low self esteem, Joshua ain't all that in my opinion, and he hasn't been relevant since Dawson Creek but it seems like she saw him as the prize instead of the other way around, which is why he feels comfortable embarrassing her on national TV like this, not only did nobody ask him it's unnecessary to put your woman on blast like that unless he just deliberately wanted to humiliate her this is why I caution black women in IR dating love who love but make sure said non black man loves you for you and not seeing you as some flavor of the month jungle fetish because that's the vibe I get from him
@@Lisette121 He was engaged to Diane Kruger before and my suspicion that's more his type, I mean Jodie is beautiful she can do better if she wanted to she's the prize not him for him to be embarrassing her on TV like that is a disgrace
@@Model_Roe I see. Not trying to be pessimistic, but it's rare for a man who hasn't dated bw in the past to wed one especially at his age. I hope it lasts but wm have a tendency to "go back", especially when they're just going through a phase, or if they receive so much flack for dating a bw that they eventually give in.
@@Lisette121 thank you! I'm in agreement with you and I don't even think it's flack like I said he's not all that and it's not to say he was on the level of Brad Pitt or Johnny Depp he was never a A and probably was using her for PR (I wouldn't be surprised if that comes out at some point) but I know racial bias is too ingrained in American white people for them not to see color, too often black women are just a tick on the bucket list for non black men, something for them to experience get out of their system have all the gutter sex with, before they move onto a white woman other celebrity examples of this are Ron Perlman Kid Rock Kevin Federline MGK Gary Owens etc I mean MGKs baby momma is black I'm assuming because his daughter looks biracial but he's now bagged Meagan Fox who I'm sure is really more his type and the woman he really wanted to be with they all will use black women as a filler if they can't get the ideal white woman they really want that's why I say to any black woman just be careful don't be like a lot of these sistahs who get used abused and discarded and get Left single moms to these mixed babies because I seen one too many examples of this in real life 🤷
I don’t care how rich or handsome a man is…I’ll eat a Jean jacket before I ever do such a thing!!! I can’t believe Jodie did this!! Smh! He should feel ashamed of himself to reveal this on national tv!! He absolutely did this to humiliate her!
He did it on purpose. He is too old to not know better. When they are being manipulating they want to pretend that these are accidents and ignorance. So you can forgive them.
Girl, you hit the nail on the head. No matter the race A WOMAN SHOULD NEVER PROPOSE TO A MAN. It is not feminine. It's 100% masculine, even if she looks feminine. We should NEVER leave who we are made to be, for a man. Let THE LORD GOD take his coarse, not nature. Level up ladies. We have so much power in body of CHRIST. ❤😇
It breaks my heart to see jawdroppingly beautiful, femme fatale women give in to anti-women feminist rhetoric that claims it's okay to chase a man. It is NOT. Progressiveness in dating is a made up idea, biology is eternal. No woman should see a man as the prize, and a woman that looks as good as her could easily be the kept wife of a billionaire. I'll pray for Mrs. Smith.
Unfortunately, it isn’t that easy to get a billionaire that treats you well. There will always be some compromises to be made. Unrealistic thinking isn’t helpful either.
I get that and least he married her as so many other pregnant women have wanted the same. However, the game of getting pregnant and hoping he will propose, then proposing at 5+ months (seems to be a trend) isn’t a great plan. Women need to not get pregnant before marriage. I hate how desperate this makes black women look! The woman before knew what time it was. They were together 10 years and she produced no children. At least she’s young enough to have kids with someone else that will give her the benefit of marriage.
@@kristysmith4990 I agree, I too thought it was a bit strange how quickly they got married after their baby was born/ when she was pregnant (sorry I don't remember the chronology of it all) but I also thought, this is a bit sloppy, I kind of expected better from her, since she's just so beautiful. Now that I think of it, this relationship never really sat right with me you know? Like something was setting my instincts off, and now I can see why 🤷🏾♀️
The fact that you propose to a white man says A LOT. They have no problem proposing if they want you.. Not surprised he threw her under the bus. She best start reading between the lines. I say this as a black woman with a white husband. We dated for 7 weeks and have almost been married for 8 years going on forever now.
I’m a brown skinned Native American that looks black and my white husband proposed to me after 6.5 weeks dating. We got married the next week. I’m going to meet his parents next week. White men will propose with ZERO shame and will proudly display you as the prize, IF they want you.
I barely know who these two are, I feel like they’re more famous for their actual relationship than for their careers. This dude literally hasn’t been relevant since Dawsons creek. Boy sit down.
Not to defend his bs bc he's not MY husband but he's been working pretty consistently in the 2000s and moreso in the 2010s. He had his own show Fringe which was kinda sci-fi [didn't watch it] and then for the past 5 yrs he was on Showtime with the Affair [also didn't watch it lol] then he did when they see us on Netflix so I mean he's no longer boyishly handsome but hey... he's employed lol
Let's not forget this man proposed several times to the woman he was with before Jodie Turner and she turned him down every single time. She also left him for a man she was having an affair with and married that man. So, for me, Jodie's way of going about this is a NO for me. There will never come a time when I will ask a man to marry me. This isn't oversharing..men do this to let other people know how they feel and they want to change how people perceive you and make it seem accidental. I dated a man who did this and it's never an overshare or an oops. It's subtle and deliberate.
He's absolutely feminine. Think about the kind of woman who would rather be a mom than be married. That's basically him. There's a reason his previous relationship was what it was. Here Jodie boosted this man to be such a romantic and how he made her feel like such a desired woman...when in all actuality, she was pursuing him out the gate...hence her sleeping with him on the first night. Unfortunate.
It sounds like she just didn't ask him to, she begged him to. Her husband said this to embarrass her as a way to get back at her for something she did/say and/or to keep her in her place. On another note, he made himself look like a pussy in his relationship.
@@SummerTyme2023 She is not more successful than him. He has a lot more money He has been an actor for over 25 years Her career is pretty short and she is not famous to everyone. Joshua is rarely without a an acting job and some people underestimae his career because they don't hear his name as much and he's not known as a big movie star. However,.he''s been on several TV shows that have lasted for some years. He's been doing interviews for this series on Peacock network now and that's what he was promoting during that interview. In my opinion Joshua told that story about the proposal to appease some of his long time white fans who don't understand why Pacey could marry a black woman. He's got fans who literally grew up into adulthood with him. Some of them have been saying some racist things. He doesn't want to be cancelled by white people.
@@SummerTyme2023 Joshua Jackson is worth 12 million. He has been on a lot of shows. Jodie is worth 1-2 million. I think most people will recognize joshua before Jodie
of course she did. he didnt pick her and by proposing she set the tone for emasculating him. if the cheating allegations are true, i definitely believe it. he probably behaved horribly in that relationship. she wanted a trophy husband.
Does anybody else see how odd that all the other private relationships he's ever had were marriage wasn't involved nor children, that he kept private & the break ups too.
@@purpleflows5680 She started first but she's been promoting her projects for a year and half now. She's been sharing a lot because of that but she does it on her social media as well.
@@tulipsarered Take a look at her instagram stories! she even shared some videos of him sleeping. That's quite surprising to me consiedering the fact I follow him on social media for a wile now and he never showed up such a private things... She shares a lot stuff, him not so much... and previsously he was quite secret on his private life (classier on my mind... )
I was upset with Jodie when she overshared in an interview that they had sex on the first night they met knowing the promiscuity narrative that is typically spun about BW. So the oversharing continues with Joshua and once again, Jodie as a BW suffers the fallout - this time, the masculinity narrative...
It was purposeful. He is used to those types of questions and those types of interviews, he was resentful of this embarrassment that was the proposal. Not only he is now Mr. Noname Jodie's husband but he is not the one who was in full control of the decision Crushed masculinity
He basically took his power back and I very doubt if this relationship will last long and if it does, it will be because She is fighting for him and not the other way around
A lot of black women think just because one of them gets with a white men that they are better than the policies and Rayray. We better than this. White men aren't the only race of men out there.
Disagree he looking for a way out something tells me he's gonna dump her soon he's had his fill and is ready to move on watch out for his next girl to be white just saying 🤷 I seen this play out one too many times
@@picknomoremokgotho2959 nah I'm right just watch them divorce in the future I see it coming mind you it's not uncommon for white men to do this, which is why I caution black women in IR dating, because love you love as long as said person makes you happy but make sure they're not using you to indulge in some jungle fever before they go back and marry a white woman, too often black women are just a tick on the bucket list for these men as an experience they want to have or used as a filler until they get the white woman they really want 🤷 I sound pessimistic but I'm just keeping it a buck I seen one too many black women left single moms by trifling non black men it happens more often than not
Joshua REALLY could’ve kept that kernel of information to himself. I saw this on Twitter and had major secondhand embarrassment. 🤦🏽♀️ I’m humiliated for Jodie. I wonder how she feels after Joshua’s gaffe. A woman should NEVER propose to a man. If he’s not asking for your hand in marriage, he’s either not ready or you’re not the one. Do not try to force his hand and definitely do not ask him.
Okay, she locked him down & will benefit with a child in tow but it doesn't seem that this relationship would survive long-term. He'll get restless of her in a passive-aggressive way, leave the marriage & co-parent...a transactional marriage at best...what celebrity marriages are made of these days.💕✌
This is not a high value relationship. Jodie plays characters in movies that make her and black women appear like mules. She is also casted to play Anne Boylen, a colonialist historic figure.
@@shieldoffaith7099 Depends on the angle you look at it from. She definitely can be considered a pick me. She did many things to get King Henry's attention, just so that he would choose her. Some would say that a pick me would go to the lengths she did. Others would disagree and say that she was just being smart in securing her position as Queen.
@@MrsNicolas True. I would say the latter. Not only did she secure herself as queen, but she obtained titles, propery land and places within the Court for all of her closest family. Not only that she was instrumental in the country moving for Roman Catholicism to the Church of England. That's just to name a few of her strategies and influence. I would say she was many things but a picme was not one of them. As she was not chosen she choose.
I made some of these blunders and learned the hard way. I have sense divorced, learning how to heal and bring my feminine side to the forefront. Wow! I am a different person and I’m falling in love with myself. Also teaching my teens how to do the same. I’m so happy to have found your channel. Many blessings to you for your work!!!
The word says HE who finds a wife.... I was close to wanting to propose to mine, but I'm glad I didn't. He still didn't step up; that's Y we aren't together today. Never be afraid of starting over & keeping your morals!
My ex said he thought a woman proposing to a man was romantic. Amongst other issues, we are no longer together. I would NEVER propose to a man, and I don’t think that’s an acceptable part of “feminism” or anything positive with being a woman.
Hi Chloe👋 LOVE your videos!😁 My answer is "yes" to all questions you posed at the end of this video. I say "yes" because if a man wants something/someone he will come for whomever or whatever he wants/needs👍💯
A lot of women with success and a bag do this because they have a ego like men and know they are a catch. But if you lead in the relationship especially being successful, how do you ever know if that man is truly there for you?
This is another perfect video. Thank You Chloe for this real talk❣️ It’s a jagged pill to swallow when we women realise that we cannot apply our ambitions towards our romantic relationship if we want a genuine gentleman who will provide and protect us in the manners we deserve.
He’s the problem. I’d be suspect of a man who’s over 40 and dated someone for 10 years which was most of his 30s into 40s& never married them(what he did with Diane Kruger). I suspect he’s toxic & has some issues because Kruger said she felt liberated post their break up(just googled their relationship because I didn’t know much about him nor Kruger). Hope Jodi recovers from the humiliation he clearly wanted to inflict on her by revealing so much…also she needs to stop telling us so much about their relationship, can’t be healthy having ppl criticise how you choose to live your life with your partner. He’s a good example of rich but still low value man because his behaviour with his ex and now this wife humiliation sure screams it
I personally think he was wrong for admitting this but she basically opened that bag by saying that they had a 3 year one night stand. I think he wanted to 1 up on that because he seems private. This is why I always say, learn from Beyoncé when coming to your personal business.
To the ladies who hide their masculinity under the guise of a "go-getter", if your man says that he's okay with you proposing to him or taking care of him financially he is lying to you & to himself. Subconsciously he feels emasculated by your actions. And because he is too effeminate to speak his true feelings he will lash out in small ways. Like during an interview on nation wide broadcast tv show🤦🏾♀️.
Soooo true!
Yep! Learned this the hard way with my ex. I was a pick me and I paid dearly 😭. I now know my worth and will never do that again
@@TomikaKelly Never underestimate a man's ego & pride. Those two specific emotions can be the driving point of irrational choices & stupid actions
...or by cheating
@Fultonian It sounds like your triggered by my comment. Why? Have been in a similar situation & it didn't end well for you?
No chasing men of any race. Rest in your femininity.
Yes I hate this promotes the narrative that black women are desperate to marry out.
Exactly
Yes
Exactly desperate to keep her white man.
@@Flowerchild2421 exactly.
She chose him. He didn’t choose her. He’s not protecting her because he didn’t choose her.
YIKES...THIS COMMENT BITES!!!!
Mmmmmm SMH...so much truth here. So much truth 😔
Ouch! The truth hurts.
Exactly. She started out as the man... When you tell women this they will continue to listen to men and others tell them to approach men etc.
Facts
And this is exactly why I say a toxic man is toxic no matter what race they are. No race of men is better than the other. It’s all up to the man’s character. Plain and simple.
I’m so glad she made it a point to say men of all races because too often I see women who think the solution to their dating problems is just to sleep with men of other races rather than have boundaries, standards, and discernment.
@@toriyt2714 I agree. I see a lot of women putting other races of men in pedestals and I just smh and keep it moving. They are bad people in all races, including men AND women. Morals, character, and actions are what makes a good man.
Just curious what makes a man toxic?
@@blacklight3947 lying, mind games, superiority complex, argumentative to a fault, etc basically just a shitty person
@@kalikehlani154 got it, so is it safe to say we’re all guilty of this to a certain point?
Jodi Turner-Smith does not understand how to protect her own image. She admitted that her relationship with her husband started as a one-night stand on a talk show. Then, Joshua tells the world that his wife proposed. Both of them have left themselves open for public ridicule.
Somethings u must take to your grave.
@@picknomoremokgotho2959 I agree that’s exactly what I thought how things went down. I will say how things start have a lot to do with how they play out.
💯!!!
Mind you she's a public figure, honestly moving in silence should be her no1 rule
I was looking first this comment. She started this with her TMI interviews.
Why are married couple humiliating their spouses in public? This is a trend that needs to stop. Whether you are on social media or late night talk show, embarrassing your partner for publicity does not help the marriage.
Jealousy
He was not trying to help the mariage, you know ...
And "a trend" ?
That other lady (I think her name is tabitha) who announced she's retiring her husband is another example of exposing marriage details with the public.
You expose your partner to social media ridicule.
Preach
@@mak28busted yep Tabitha Brown. Wendy Williams got a lot of pushback from her statement but she's not wrong.
Why would a woman propose to any man? 🤦🏽♀️ role reversal is real and scary
The pick me spirit is very strong
She's tired of waiting and wants to be married by any means necessary. She's tired of waiting for men to propose, because of the social construct and stigma surrounding who is supposed to propose.
Well he is a multi-millionaire Hollywood actor with status, so at least she praticed hypergamy, instead of a dusty.
I had a few that tried that with me, had to switch up quick 😂🤪😬😜 Lol. Gotta be honest with them to save us both a long heartache. I think the reason most women don’t want to be alone, they rather find someone to grow old with. Most relationships are superficial nowadays, it’s all about money & not getting to really no one another, a world of illusions.
@@MrsNicolas Desperation.
I had a Colombian guy that wanted me to chase after him. I told him i dont even chase after my dog so what makes him think that i will chase him. That was the end of that. A lot of feminine qualities in males nowadays. Its disgusting
Lmao this made me laugh. I think I luv you
Enjoy kissing your dog
@@AmabelleDesir There are already BM who are doing that and other things🥴🥴🤮🤮
He wanted you to do that because he came across a WHOLE bunch of other desperate bw that was willing to do that and more lol
@@TedBundy-sy5rf And you know this how....?
I will PROUDLY die a childless spinster before I ever propose to any man. I will NEVER be that desperate!!!
👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👌🏿👌🏿👌🏿👌🏿👌🏿💯
Say this again please!!!!
👏🏾 👏🏾 👏🏾 factsssss 💯
This!!!!
THIS COMMENT THO!!☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾
Knowledge of male psychology is very important.
💯
They do not think the way we do and their perception is also very different
@@sonyab2u974 Yes! Sometimes it's like we're different species.
our brains are just built different compared to men. i don't why people think we're so alike 🤦♀️
@@TheSomethingnew1 commenting so I know as well!
Let me tell you what I know without a doubt to be true about a man who is truly in love with his wife. He will never ever say anything about her or let anyone speak about her in a negative light. Men do not play about that with their wives that they are in love with.
I’m so glad made it a point to say men of all races because too many times I see women think the solution to their dating problems is to just sleep with men of other races not have standards boundaries and discernment for themselves.
This!!! There are even channels that promotes that too. And it's a very dangerous mindset to have, because when any man hurts that woman, she would truly feel a hurt like no other, she will be very confused. Never ever date a man because of his race, never make that a priority.
This!!!
This is so true, my husband is so protective of me and how people speak of me and treat me.
A
Why would he say that!
So I have to birth children, clean, cook, look feminine and whatever else AND also propose to my husband???? nah not in any lifetimes
Haha yep!
idk about cooking and cleaning or naturally carrying children tho 😭
Come on somebody .. did I hear her say “neighbor?”
@@ToeKnife166 you should never do that married or not.
Yup, we also gotta be the man as well, and I REALLY am not here for that!
Telling the world that she proposed was totally unnecessary.
The final nail in the coffin was adding that she was “adamant” which paints her as aggressive.
Just so much to unpack here. Smh.
Jodie told all her business about she was chasing this white man. The White man just confirmed her desparation for a white man.
Jodie is a beautiful black Queen. He should feel honored to even walk beside her. Look at her and look at him. 🤦
😷
He had a goal in mind and that was to change the worlds’ opinion about their relationship and he succeeded while simultaneously failing his wife.
Please Preach!!! The same thing I was thinking. He knew exactly what he was doing.
Probably because he’s experiencing push back from his community.
Exactly smh 🤦🏾♀️
Exactly..”She chose me I didn’t choose her!”
He's been around for many years and has some long time loyal white fans. Some might not approve of this interracial marriage. He cleared up some perceptions they might have and let them know he did not initiate this marriage.
McDonald's: "hello, may I take your order?"
Joshua Jackson: "it was Jodie that proposed...she was adamant."
😩😂😂😂
Hahaha
Stop it !🤣💀👻
Best comment ever!
😄😄😄
I saw a girl comment on an Instagram blog that she will mop the ocean before she proposes to a man!😂
My biggest fear when it comes to role reversal is that unlike most women who will turn a man down instantly when they aren't interested, a some men would gladly waste years of your life, exploiting your domestic, emotional and maybe even finacial labour, on his journey to becoming their best self and finding their true love!
I would rather count the sand on the beach before I propose to a man
🎯🎯 🎯
Wow that's true
I will sweep my entire house with an eyelash before I chase a man
I feel her😂😂😂.
My cousin rushed to get married and I remember telling her I like to see my man take charge of things in my marriage (obviously I help)atleast do the basic of provide. She said she doesn't mind providing infact she told me she bought their home. She also pays for holidays, flights etc since she earns way much more than the man.
I told her I ain't doing that.
Her man doesn’t have her back by telling all their business
He really should of never told that
She also has verbal diarrhoea
She did it 1st
I don't think neither of them find the way the proposal happened to be embarassing, he didn't seem embarrassed for being a man that accepted a woman's proposal. I think your interpretation of what happened is because you would be embarrassed, but this couple is not you so please keep that in mind. Does him protecting her mean that he needs to protect her from people who interpret her proposal the way you did? Is that what you're asking him to protect her from? They both seem okay with the way it happened. They're not hiding it cause there's nothing to hide. Now, personally, I couldn't do but that's just a personality thing. But there are some people that are just go- getters, they know what they want and won't sit around in-wait hoping and praying that the thing they want will happen. They make things happen and she seems to be that type. Let them be. If he resents it, he should not have married her or maybe he's not the type of guy that can be with a woman like her. Either way, if he's actually telling the truth of what happened, there's no shame in the truth. It just shows that his wife is a go- getter. Believe it or not, some people wish they were.
#colouredgal, Shameful
He bragged because it was a confidence boost to his ego that she proposed. In a roundabout way he made her sound like the aggressive black woman stereotype.
I think he was bragging to. Like she chased me
It’s that, and something else. He’s trying to keep his fan base happy, and so his announcement must’ve been his way of letting them know that he didn’t choose Jodie.
Now they don’t feel threatened by his marriage to a BW.
@@sweetstormz I absolutely agree with that. People think because they don't recognize him as a major movie star that he's not a wealthy and successful actor. He's been acting since he was a child and lots of people have grown up with him. He always has acting work. He's successful and wealthy. Yes that proposal story was directed at explaining things to his long time white fan base that he did not initiate this marriage.
@@larissalaflore7202 To be honest, you actually brought me to that conclusion as I had seen some of your previous comments.
Chloe just dragged this man. In a high end way.
This screams “I’ll cheat with lesser women because they’ll make me feel like a man”
I think he already cheated on her because he was Caught kissing another woman.
@@sierraleone5304 so sad
@@sierraleone5304 omg really? I’m so sad
@@sierraleone5304 FRL?????? YIKES
@@sierraleone5304 It looks like they broke up briefly, because she was clammering all over her co star at the time and she was seen with someone else as well. They got back together and it became more serious.
He had a choice, to reject the proposal. He is not a child.❤
Exactly! He said Yes. They had a wedding . He waited for her at alter. He said I do. He signed the marriage certificate. He submitted to all of it. It’s sounds like his problem to me. 🤷🏽♀️
Agreed. He didn't have to accept the proposal. But he obviously wanted to show her as the "aggressor" as a form of some "power play"...weird. He should have just turned her down until HE was ready to propose HIMSELF.
He wanted the world to know how desirable he is and how much power he has over her. It's both a male ego thing and the race dynamic. Bad move Jodie. Proposing to a man or playing the masculine role will lead to him ALWAYS having leverage over you. He knows you care more and have far more to lose than him. The one who cares the least has the most control in the relationship. Ladies, always maintain your leverage.
Yes!! Well said!
Yea, a black man would never do such a thing
Perfectly said
Snapple Apple Fact
very well said, good point!
Humiliating !!! He made it sound like she trapped him
Yup
And that’s probably how he feels too! Smh
She did
She did purposely get pregnant after their one night stand. It’s a well known common tactic amongst modern men & women these days. 🤷🏽♂️
@@fazenuget8403 Unless she lied about being on birth control or being infertile, its also on the man to take steps to NOT chance getting a woman pregnant
If me having a husband is contingent on me proposing, I will never ever have a husband. I will be 180 years old and go to heaven before I ever propose. It is bad enough out here in these streets that men think women are supposed to chase them. They got this thing twisted. I'm not gonna chase them. I'm not gonna to persuade them. I'm not going to encourage them, as to why they should be with me. A MAN should know what he wants when he steps to me, and if he doesn't I will decide for him and he will be dismissed.
Yassss! All of this!
Say this again please!! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
I’ve done this. Was asked to “exchange” numbers. I think he mistook me for thirsty and thought that I would call him. He texted me a couple of times, but nothing came of it. I took myself to the movies. I don’t chase. I don’t beg. I don’t owe anyone a damn thing. Time is money and he can do the non dusty thing and pay.
@@collettedaniels3884 yes sis! Maintain your crown 👑
. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾😂😂💜👑🧿
Jodi is so beautiful but she is a bit disappointing. She comes off too desperate and she always ends up with egg on her face. She is always making embarrassing statements she shouldn’t. Just like the time she mentioned about having a one night stand with Joshua. Joshua also knew what he was doing. He basically wanted everyone to know who is the aggressor in the relationship. He wanted to look like the desired one here
@@therealsouthernbelles prob its his mouth game
Exactly... he wanted to everyone to know he was the desired one.. the prize
She kept insisting that she is the one who saw him first and kind of facilitated the meeting in a subtle way… which is great, but why do you have to tell people??? Lol. It’s not a good look. Better to just be quiet about certain things.
Jodie is stunning, but she either shares or talks too much sometimes.
She is desperate. Never liked the term "comes of as" no! It's 'is'! She is desperate, and shouldn't have to be. It's all mindset.
Cause she made him the prize and chased him!!!! So this is the result of her desperation.
Exactly 💯
My Mom always taught me the way to get a Man to take action in your relationship is to, let him know what YOU plan to do, and then do it (i.e. if you need to, walk away) In the past I’ve walked away…by the time they come running back, I don’t want them no more. Space gives ppl time to realize some things, lol.
Honestly he could have just said no to the proposal and proposed to her if this bothered him so much. Such a tacky move. His feelings are his fault. I don't condone Jodie's proposal and I also think he lacks the backbone to make the moves he needs to make that show masculinity and leadership decision-making. What's up with him not marrying his long-term partners?? I can understand why Jodie didn't wait for him to propose given his track record with his past relationships since he is a seemingly wealthy man and she would have much to gain in terms of that. But issa no for me.
❤ this comment
His previous partner didn't want to get married, and she repeated that over and over, because she had been married before and she didn't want to do it again.
Joshua didn't know the harshness of racism until people started saying hateful things about their interracial relationship. He's probably thinking I know some of you white people don't approve of my relationship but please still don't cancel me or stop watching my show (s). The marriage wasn't my idea.
That’s how men are lol. Yes their feelings are THEIR own but if you contributed to it or are there while they’re in the thick of feeling it, you’re gonna somehow get affected. That’s the way men in general are.
I was involved with a white guy in a situationship (that I stupidly pursued) and when the relationship began to crumble he took passive aggressive routes to end the relationship.
They might go along with it but that doesn’t mean anything.
Avoid passive men, ladies. They never change. I have had front row seats to 3 such relationships and it was/is a whole dysfunctional mess.
She started off wrong. She said it was a one night stand and went from there. She started chasing him and then PROPOSED to this man after taking him on a beautiful vacation in Nicaragua. She is the man in the relationship and I think it subconsciously really bothers him. I think he felt emasculated and that's why after her interview he immediately did his own, and aired her out. She was a pick me from the beginning and a huge feminist so this is no surprise.
Omg 😳 this marriage will end soon if that’s the case. I’m so disappointed because I was rooting for their marriage I thought she was in her feminine position and him in his masculine
Damn she took him to a vacation damn
We let them. If you made yourself challenge and they seen they had to work for you. They would back away.
So hold up, she took them on vacation?
@@picknomoremokgotho2959 How do you know she took him on a vacation? You don't and they went with friends and family. So, it wasn't just the two of them.
A lot to unpack here. Bottom line, he was feeling emasculated and wanted to low key flex his control. She was getting all the attention. He probably also blames himself for not being more assertive.
On the other hand, Jodie was playing to win, at any cost. She found out what the price was .. It was time for her to pay up.
I don't think he blames himself for not being more assertive. Because if he did, he wouldn't blast it on social media.
Now I do agree with you on Jodie . It took her becoming pregnant to come to her sense and realize, the severity of her position.
This!!
You said it, especially the last part.
Kimberly... excellent response my love..
@kimbery Young Nailed it! The price was her feminine image, since she "took his" masculine one ...
A black women especially shouldn’t be proposing. Marriage has always benefited men so if anything he should be begging you for your hand in marriage.
Marriage was how you generated wealth for centuries. Even if the woman came from money, by marrying, all of her wealth was transferred to her husband. Marriage has definitely changed in the modern times but let’s not pretend it’s conception wasn’t to benefit the lives of single men.
@Sean Ewing your social status, net worth, and life expectancy goes up.
@Sean Ewing married men live longer according to studies on this. Are more relaxed due to the woman doing more of the domestic work like cooking, laundry, cleaning. And if she works, she most likely will pitch in on some of the bills. Will hold the brunt of child rearing. Just overall support in times of need from the wife. A single man has to do a lot more for himself.
@Sean Ewing Getting married increases men getting promotion at work because he's seen as responsible. Married women on the other hand are seen as a liability, because she could possibly end up pregnant. That would possibly require time off for maternity leave. Which means the company could become short staff on the one person who was possibly growing the company. Imagine being the CEO of a company that has a brilliant employee who helped the company to make millions. Now that same person isn't available because they're on maternity leave. Paternity leaves are extremely short, and some companies don't even offer paternity leave.
Also, married men usually live longer on average than single men. Married men are more likely to sit down to a nutritious meal than a single man would. Married men are more likely to have a partner who will work out with him, and keep him accountable. He's more like to be chasing and wresting after kids, which is a workout in itself. His wife and children are more likely to push him or influence him to get yearly checkups. The wife is more likely the one to do the heavy lifting when it comes to taking care of the children....meaning taking the time to cook,feed, change diapers, bathe children, do hair, read books at bedtime, help with homework etc. Leaving him more leisure time to take care of his well being.
That's why it benefits men more than women. Oh I forgot, single father aren't seen in a negative light as much as single mothers. So even if a divorce takes place, he has a higher chance of a childless woman wanting him, than a single mother has of a child free man wanting her.
@Sean Ewing I'm speaking from experience. Anyways why don't you want to get married?
This is embarrasing and humiliaiting ... why did he have to tell the world this. Like come man, why would you do that to your women. Really? 😫
I feel like he was mad at her and being passive aggressive 😡
Maybe the Thrill is gone and he's making room for his exit. That's how they do it in Hollywood 🤷🏽♀️
@@MC-kt5bc yep 👍
@@lyndoraburroughs-robinson5663 that’s true
He hates her.
I’d rather remain single if I have to beg and bleed for a man to marry me. I hope and pray that all the women can have the strength to make the right choice which is to leave than settle for someone who you will end up proposing to. This is some next level embarrassment, I feel bad for Jodie. You never want a man to feel as though he was forced to marry you as he reflects years into the marriage.
Agreed
*plead
@@tamarawilliams1197 no love, I actually meant bleed
Amen Niana!!! Ain't no man worth chasing after or gettin down on one knee and proposing marriage to. Men nowadays have position themselves to where you have to pursue them. I'm like this if I gotta chase after man or propose marriage to him. That's sign right there he ain't that one!!! I feel sorry for Jodie cause shows how desperate she is. This is no laughing matter.
This is the crack in the marriage. It’s out in the open now. The countdown to the divorce is on. He didn’t choose her. He didn’t protect her reputation, he humiliated her. I wish she hadn’t proposed.
i was thinking the same thing..
Yep 👍
It’s what she wanted. He was the prize in her eyes. She said it was a white man that made her feel beautiful. Sad it wasn’t her white husband that made her seem special.
They are now getting a divorce. 💔
He made her an enemy. He hates her. This is terrible.
I agree...this was violent. He knew what he was doing.
They had probably had a falling out
Joshua Jackson was with a German actress for years and did not wife her. So now that he revealed his wife proposed to him.....I am not surprised
Yes After first seeing him in an old interview, where he was asked what are jodi's cravings during her pregnancy?He answerd oreo cookies. Than I knew what they have/had is just an illusion. He does not respect het. Does not like her. She gives him a spotlightand he is takkng full advantege of that. He hasn't been for years in the spotlight. Now that he is with jodi he is all over. Jodi is a fool she is the one not seeing her own value. Put yourself on that pedastole and knock that boy of it. People are interested in you jodi not that manchild your dating.
@@SummerTyme2023 "This was violent".....Oh for godssakes, grow up. Talking is not violence, you weirdo.
This marriage is doomed. It sounds like he resents that he was trapped with a baby.
Where was it written or said that he was trapped by a baby?
Absolutely.
He wasn't trapped with a baby. He has embraced this, the minute they found out. He has been there every step of the way and Jodie said that.
@@tulipsarered He is a narcissist. He FEELS trapped because Jodi was a package deal with the baby.
He letting it be known he didn’t want her she wanted him he also showed HE WAS THE PRIZE💯💯💯🤷🏽♀️
Sounds like her dream white man was not any better than the black men who she said didn't want her.
Ooooh! I'd be so angry with him. He basically let it be known that he was perfectly happy with the way things were without the ring. It will be interesting to see if they stay together long term. I think it's not a good start. Now, if anything goes wrong or he gets tired of her the first thing he'll say is, "I never wanted to get married in the first place but you forced me."
Ugh so true 😭
Mmmm hurts so bad
This!
Yep!
It was ONLY two months of dating, sheesh. These two were just having sex carelessly, she ended pregnant and wanted to save face probably to her family. I predict the marriage will be short. He was on the rebound when he began dating Jodie. Smh.
We have to be very cautious putting any man on a pedestal, especially wm. Many wm know that they're viewed as a prize and take full advantage. However when they're over you or want to embarrass you they will throw it right back in your face that you need to grow a backbone and get some self esteem and stop throwing yourself shamelessly at their beck n call.
That just it they are not the prize. Woman are the prize and especially black woman. Black woman have everything. And can do almost anything they set their minds on. Make yourselves the prize. Never put a man before you !
This is true! Since the new "level up trend" is scoring "wm", spins another dangerous narrative for black women to seem desperate. I say it all the time dating white is not always the solution, there are some bottom shelf Brads lurking too
@@BeeRichWitch facts.
@@Security-pw5lg 💯
@@BeeRichWitch I've been seeing more and more homeless white men who are not shy about begging black women for money. Black women need to do research on every man they meet and not assume non black men are in a position to give them a high class life
When I was pregnant at 25 with our 1st everyone was asking me why I wasn’t pressuring my then boyfriend to marry me before the baby was born. I would tell friend’s that they should be asking him that question. I told my sister that I refused to pressure anyone so that they can’t throw that back in my face talking about “it wasn’t their choice I forced it on them”. He did eventually propose on his own WITHOUT me telling/asking him to do so. I refuse to propose to any man, they will never be ok with that kind of move.
My bestie's parents insisted she and her children's father get married after they had their first child together. Marriage only last 3 years. They only pushed for the marriage because they didn't want her living with them while he was stationed on the opposite side of the country. My bestie also had an older child whose father wasn't in the picture but her boyfriend wanted to be a father to her. Yet he told my bestie's mom that he didn't want to adopt the little girl because he didn't want to pay child support for her if it didn't work out. Her mom didn't tell her that until after they split up.
I am experiencing second hand embarrassment and fury over this. I THOUGHT she could do better than him, this proves it 🤦🏾♀️
This reminds of when Ryan Philippe embarrassed his then wife Reese Witherspoon at an awards show because she had become the bigger star and was making way more money than him. I knew their marriage was doomed after that.
Yup, I saw that on tv & I knew too it was over! Smh...
@@hotties3v3n While announcing the 2002 Oscar winner for achievement in makeup together, Phillippe, told Witherspoon that she could read out the winner's name, saying, "You make more than I do, so go ahead." A passive-aggressive F U if I ever heard one.
@@justbeingnosy1644 woooww..
@@dominiquejones6758 wowww I did not know this...same old story...these men are so fragile, its tragic for everyone involved. Women can't even be their best versions of themselves without stepping on men's toes...the bar is really so low
Yep, and I love the fact that she continued to thrive and his career is pretty much non-existent now.
I had talked to Canadian guy that lives here in the states. He was soft, unmasculine, and couldn't lead. He claims he is so used to black women chasing him and being available at the drop of the hat for him. He only dated black women and they would always pay for everything thing. Oh we definitely didnt work out and I was wondering how masculine are Canadian men raised to be.
@@Celti_ Wow, I believe it.
Black women stay away from loser like this😬
Lawdhammercy 🤦🏽♀️! Did he share this info right off top? Wtf
I live in Montréal and Canadian men are very unmasculine and they don’t engage at all and a lot of Canadian women here go 50/50 or even 80/20 where the 80 is for the women…
This is why I am grateful for Chloe_ ´s channel .. because ouf 😥 it’s not that green on the other side …
Nico, girl. You told no lies. They are extremely soft and non traditional.
You can tell Jodie suffers from low self esteem, Joshua ain't all that in my opinion, and he hasn't been relevant since Dawson Creek but it seems like she saw him as the prize instead of the other way around, which is why he feels comfortable embarrassing her on national TV like this, not only did nobody ask him it's unnecessary to put your woman on blast like that unless he just deliberately wanted to humiliate her this is why I caution black women in IR dating love who love but make sure said non black man loves you for you and not seeing you as some flavor of the month jungle fetish because that's the vibe I get from him
And fetishes expire, especially when they don't have a history of dating the women of that same fetish....
@@Lisette121 He was engaged to Diane Kruger before and my suspicion that's more his type, I mean Jodie is beautiful she can do better if she wanted to she's the prize not him for him to be embarrassing her on TV like that is a disgrace
@@Model_Roe I see. Not trying to be pessimistic, but it's rare for a man who hasn't dated bw in the past to wed one especially at his age. I hope it lasts but wm have a tendency to "go back", especially when they're just going through a phase, or if they receive so much flack for dating a bw that they eventually give in.
I think this advice should apply to ALL men....
@@Lisette121 thank you! I'm in agreement with you and I don't even think it's flack like I said he's not all that and it's not to say he was on the level of Brad Pitt or Johnny Depp he was never a A and probably was using her for PR (I wouldn't be surprised if that comes out at some point) but I know racial bias is too ingrained in American white people for them not to see color, too often black women are just a tick on the bucket list for non black men, something for them to experience get out of their system have all the gutter sex with, before they move onto a white woman other celebrity examples of this are Ron Perlman Kid Rock Kevin Federline MGK Gary Owens etc I mean MGKs baby momma is black I'm assuming because his daughter looks biracial but he's now bagged Meagan Fox who I'm sure is really more his type and the woman he really wanted to be with they all will use black women as a filler if they can't get the ideal white woman they really want that's why I say to any black woman just be careful don't be like a lot of these sistahs who get used abused and discarded and get Left single moms to these mixed babies because I seen one too many examples of this in real life 🤷
Who's watching this after their divorce news????
Never chase a man
Never force a man to marry you
Never propose any man in marriage
I don’t care how rich or handsome a man is…I’ll eat a Jean jacket before I ever do such a thing!!! I can’t believe Jodie did this!! Smh! He should feel ashamed of himself to reveal this on national tv!! He absolutely did this to humiliate her!
@@sixteen.candles.4644 🤣 I know! This made me stop and think. 🤔😆
He did it on purpose. He is too old to not know better. When they are being manipulating they want to pretend that these are accidents and ignorance. So you can forgive them.
He definitely resents feeling overshadowed by her.
Girl, you hit the nail on the head. No matter the race A WOMAN SHOULD NEVER PROPOSE TO A MAN. It is not feminine. It's 100% masculine, even if she looks feminine. We should NEVER leave who we are made to be, for a man. Let THE LORD GOD take his coarse, not nature. Level up ladies. We have so much power in body of CHRIST. ❤😇
It breaks my heart to see jawdroppingly beautiful, femme fatale women give in to anti-women feminist rhetoric that claims it's okay to chase a man. It is NOT. Progressiveness in dating is a made up idea, biology is eternal. No woman should see a man as the prize, and a woman that looks as good as her could easily be the kept wife of a billionaire. I'll pray for Mrs. Smith.
Unfortunately, it isn’t that easy to get a billionaire that treats you well. There will always be some compromises to be made. Unrealistic thinking isn’t helpful either.
If she was pregnant, she didn't want a bastard child at any cost. I won't judge her for that since it's not me. But she didn't want that it seems.
I get that and least he married her as so many other pregnant women have wanted the same. However, the game of getting pregnant and hoping he will propose, then proposing at 5+ months (seems to be a trend) isn’t a great plan. Women need to not get pregnant before marriage. I hate how desperate this makes black women look! The woman before knew what time it was. They were together 10 years and she produced no children. At least she’s young enough to have kids with someone else that will give her the benefit of marriage.
Being a single mother is hell so I understand her desperation but birth control is also an option.
@@kristysmith4990 I agree, I too thought it was a bit strange how quickly they got married after their baby was born/ when she was pregnant (sorry I don't remember the chronology of it all) but I also thought, this is a bit sloppy, I kind of expected better from her, since she's just so beautiful. Now that I think of it, this relationship never really sat right with me you know? Like something was setting my instincts off, and now I can see why 🤷🏾♀️
BW want white men by any means losers
Oh she was pregnant. That explains a little more why she proposed to him. I didn’t think she was that type of woman.
This happened waaay before she was pregnant.
@@tulipsarered Oh 🤭
@@Mrs.T305 Yes he did and Jodie has been saying he has been there every step with her.
Its like he couldn't wait to tell. And then he used the word "adamant"? How embarrassing for her.
The fact that you propose to a white man says A LOT. They have no problem proposing if they want you.. Not surprised he threw her under the bus. She best start reading between the lines. I say this as a black woman with a white husband. We dated for 7 weeks and have almost been married for 8 years going on forever now.
Congrats !🎉
@@Rubrick23. dont be bitter.
I’m a brown skinned Native American that looks black and my white husband proposed to me after 6.5 weeks dating. We got married the next week. I’m going to meet his parents next week. White men will propose with ZERO shame and will proudly display you as the prize, IF they want you.
I barely know who these two are, I feel like they’re more famous for their actual relationship than for their careers. This dude literally hasn’t been relevant since Dawsons creek. Boy sit down.
Girl yes 👏
Not to defend his bs bc he's not MY husband but he's been working pretty consistently in the 2000s and moreso in the 2010s. He had his own show Fringe which was kinda sci-fi [didn't watch it] and then for the past 5 yrs he was on Showtime with the Affair [also didn't watch it lol] then he did when they see us on Netflix so I mean he's no longer boyishly handsome but hey... he's employed lol
My Brad and I discussed marriage I never proposed or bought my engagement ring.
Spoken like a true geto gag-ger 😂😂 that's probably what Joshua calls her too lol
Let's not forget this man proposed several times to the woman he was with before Jodie Turner and she turned him down every single time. She also left him for a man she was having an affair with and married that man. So, for me, Jodie's way of going about this is a NO for me. There will never come a time when I will ask a man to marry me. This isn't oversharing..men do this to let other people know how they feel and they want to change how people perceive you and make it seem accidental. I dated a man who did this and it's never an overshare or an oops. It's subtle and deliberate.
He's absolutely feminine. Think about the kind of woman who would rather be a mom than be married. That's basically him. There's a reason his previous relationship was what it was. Here Jodie boosted this man to be such a romantic and how he made her feel like such a desired woman...when in all actuality, she was pursuing him out the gate...hence her sleeping with him on the first night. Unfortunate.
Diane wasn't going to marry him and he was someone she was with while she waited to find someone else.
It sounds like she just didn't ask him to, she begged him to.
Her husband said this to embarrass her as a way to get back at her for something she did/say and/or to keep her in her place.
On another note, he made himself look like a pussy in his relationship.
This is so embrassing I cannot imagine what goes behind closed door.
That! She is already more sucessful than him.
@@SummerTyme2023 She is not more successful than him. He has a lot more money He has been an actor for over 25 years Her career is pretty short and she is not famous to everyone. Joshua is rarely without a an acting job and some people underestimae his career because they don't hear his name as much and he's not known as a big movie star. However,.he''s been on several TV shows that have lasted for some years. He's been doing interviews for this series on Peacock network now and that's what he was promoting during that interview. In my opinion Joshua told that story about the proposal to appease some of his long time white fans who don't understand why Pacey could marry a black woman. He's got fans who literally grew up into adulthood with him. Some of them have been saying some racist things. He doesn't want to be cancelled by white people.
@@larissalaflore7202 thanks for the info, I only know him from Dawsons Creek. I honestly do not watch television like that.
@@SummerTyme2023 He was in Little Fires Everywhere on Hulu with Kerry Washington and Reese Witherspoon last year. I thought that show was pretty good.
@@SummerTyme2023 Joshua Jackson is worth 12 million. He has been on a lot of shows. Jodie is worth 1-2 million. I think most people will recognize joshua before Jodie
Laaawwwddd! Saw this and clicked so fast! Say it isn’t so Jodie?! 😱😩
Wow and she's just filed for divorce!
of course she did. he didnt pick her and by proposing she set the tone for emasculating him. if the cheating allegations are true, i definitely believe it. he probably behaved horribly in that relationship. she wanted a trophy husband.
The fact that he felt so comfortable and happy to announce it to the world is a huge red flag. I don t trust it. Jodie better watch her back
Does anybody else see how odd that all the other private relationships he's ever had were marriage wasn't involved nor children, that he kept private & the break ups too.
Wow that’s interesting. Is she the only black woman he’s been with?
He talked about his relationship with Diane but she talked about it nonstop. It felt like she used it for PR nonstop.
@@purpleflows5680 She started first but she's been promoting her projects for a year and half now. She's been sharing a lot because of that but she does it on her social media as well.
@@tulipsarered Take a look at her instagram stories! she even shared some videos of him sleeping. That's quite surprising to me consiedering the fact I follow him on social media for a wile now and he never showed up such a private things... She shares a lot stuff, him not so much... and previsously he was quite secret on his private life (classier on my mind... )
The man pursues the woman.
and that’s it, periodt. we have yet to see masuclinas in successful, long-lasting marriages.
Oh my 🤯🤯🤯 This entire video has me clutching my pearls.
I was upset with Jodie when she overshared in an interview that they had sex on the first night they met knowing the promiscuity narrative that is typically spun about BW. So the oversharing continues with Joshua and once again, Jodie as a BW suffers the fallout - this time, the masculinity narrative...
Thing is, Jodie tries too hard to be edgy and not like the typical black woman. But she is a walking stereotype. Worse!
It was purposeful. He is used to those types of questions and those types of interviews, he was resentful of this embarrassment that was the proposal.
Not only he is now Mr. Noname Jodie's husband but he is not the one who was in full control of the decision
Crushed masculinity
He basically took his power back and I very doubt if this relationship will last long and if it does, it will be because She is fighting for him and not the other way around
Yup! Thats why he tweeted that he wanted to clear the misconception about his marriage..im like oop! Wow he shouldve never said that smh
Not only do I appreciate your content, I also appreciate your great audio!!
Ooh! The end is so nice. The music is beautiful.
2 years after this video - "DIVORCED" (Today Oct 4, 2023)
I think this stings for the divested fairy tale crowd because of how this relationship was hyped up. I never understood the hype.
A lot of black women think just because one of them gets with a white men that they are better than the policies and Rayray. We better than this. White men aren't the only race of men out there.
Why in the HELL would she ask him to marry her WTF IS WRONG WITH HER??
He knew the sharks were smelling blood and he fell into it.
Disagree he looking for a way out something tells me he's gonna dump her soon he's had his fill and is ready to move on watch out for his next girl to be white just saying 🤷 I seen this play out one too many times
I hope your wrong but honestly there is no coming back from this.
@@Model_Roe RIGHT ✅ 🙌🏽💯🥰
@@picknomoremokgotho2959 nah I'm right just watch them divorce in the future I see it coming mind you it's not uncommon for white men to do this, which is why I caution black women in IR dating, because love you love as long as said person makes you happy but make sure they're not using you to indulge in some jungle fever before they go back and marry a white woman, too often black women are just a tick on the bucket list for these men as an experience they want to have or used as a filler until they get the white woman they really want 🤷 I sound pessimistic but I'm just keeping it a buck I seen one too many black women left single moms by trifling non black men it happens more often than not
@@Model_Roe I hope she drops him silently instead of waiting for it.
Joshua REALLY could’ve kept that kernel of information to himself. I saw this on Twitter and had major secondhand embarrassment. 🤦🏽♀️ I’m humiliated for Jodie. I wonder how she feels after Joshua’s gaffe.
A woman should NEVER propose to a man. If he’s not asking for your hand in marriage, he’s either not ready or you’re not the one. Do not try to force his hand and definitely do not ask him.
Okay, she locked him down & will benefit with a child in tow but it doesn't seem that this relationship would survive long-term. He'll get restless of her in a passive-aggressive way, leave the marriage & co-parent...a transactional marriage at best...what celebrity marriages are made of these days.💕✌
This is not a high value relationship. Jodie plays characters in movies that make her and black women appear like mules. She is also casted to play Anne Boylen, a colonialist historic figure.
*characters in movies
@@thefeminine9152 🤣I think you will find she was the polar opposite of a pick me.
@@shieldoffaith7099 Depends on the angle you look at it from. She definitely can be considered a pick me. She did many things to get King Henry's attention, just so that he would choose her. Some would say that a pick me would go to the lengths she did. Others would disagree and say that she was just being smart in securing her position as Queen.
@@tamarawilliams1197 Thanks! Auto correct is auto incorrect at times.
@@MrsNicolas True. I would say the latter. Not only did she secure herself as queen, but she obtained titles, propery land and places within the Court for all of her closest family. Not only that she was instrumental in the country moving for Roman Catholicism to the Church of England. That's just to name a few of her strategies and influence. I would say she was many things but a picme was not one of them. As she was not chosen she choose.
I made some of these blunders and learned the hard way. I have sense divorced, learning how to heal and bring my feminine side to the forefront. Wow! I am a different person and I’m falling in love with myself. Also teaching my teens how to do the same. I’m so happy to have found your channel. Many blessings to you for your work!!!
Who is watching in 2023 after the divorce was announced?
Thanks for throwing light on this topic. It keeps reminding that I am the price
*prize
@@tamarawilliams1197 thanks for the correction 😘
She knew his history of being a ten-year boyfriend and she wasn't willing to take a back seat.
The word says HE who finds a wife.... I was close to wanting to propose to mine, but I'm glad I didn't. He still didn't step up; that's Y we aren't together today.
Never be afraid of starting over & keeping your morals!
This woman would have overshadowed him no matter what she did ; she is a work of very fine art. He's a piece of dust.
I agree he wanted to make it known that he was pressured into this marriage - very good breakdown of this situation.
He was passive aggressive. When I heard him say that, I thought, "Girl you are in trouble". " You will never live that down."
My ex said he thought a woman proposing to a man was romantic. Amongst other issues, we are no longer together. I would NEVER propose to a man, and I don’t think that’s an acceptable part of “feminism” or anything positive with being a woman.
Hi Chloe👋
LOVE your videos!😁
My answer is "yes" to all questions you posed at the end of this video. I say "yes" because if a man wants something/someone he will come for whomever or whatever he wants/needs👍💯
This didnt just bubble up. This is his routine conversation piece to feel better in his upside down relationship.
A lot of women with success and a bag do this because they have a ego like men and know they are a catch. But if you lead in the relationship especially being successful, how do you ever know if that man is truly there for you?
She doesn't have a bag and neither does he. If you think she's making millions then you're delusional.
Was feeling depressed over these guys but now this has helped me come back to my sense
This is another perfect video. Thank You Chloe for this real talk❣️ It’s a jagged pill to swallow when we women realise that we cannot apply our ambitions towards our romantic relationship if we want a genuine gentleman who will provide and protect us in the manners we deserve.
I get a feeling this relationship won't last 10 years.
This video aged lik wine
I’ll NEVER allow a man the chance to say “YOU wanted ME!”🙃
I heard this story circulating and I honestly feel embarrassed for her! 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♂️🙋♂️🙋♀️🙋♀️🙋♀️🧏♂️🧏♂️🧏♂️😏😏
He’s the problem. I’d be suspect of a man who’s over 40 and dated someone for 10 years which was most of his 30s into 40s& never married them(what he did with Diane Kruger). I suspect he’s toxic & has some issues because Kruger said she felt liberated post their break up(just googled their relationship because I didn’t know much about him nor Kruger). Hope Jodi recovers from the humiliation he clearly wanted to inflict on her by revealing so much…also she needs to stop telling us so much about their relationship, can’t be healthy having ppl criticise how you choose to live your life with your partner. He’s a good example of rich but still low value man because his behaviour with his ex and now this wife humiliation sure screams it
I personally think he was wrong for admitting this but she basically opened that bag by saying that they had a 3 year one night stand. I think he wanted to 1 up on that because he seems private. This is why I always say, learn from Beyoncé when coming to your personal business.
This admission was on purpose. They'll be divorced soon.