The Heirs of the Dragon & The Rogue Prince [HOTD 1x1 1x2] HOUSE OF THE DRAGON REACTION [1x1 1x2]

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  • @keef5
    @keef5 6 місяців тому +111

    Daemen wasn’t saying he should be the hand because he’s his brother. He said because he’s his brother his blood would look out for him instead of like everyone else who uses him.

    • @Phizzo4real
      @Phizzo4real 6 місяців тому +9

      Ppl misunderstand Daemon.
      He would have mad a fantastic hand. And Viserys would have prolly been one the best Kings. The Dance would have NEVER happened.
      And Game of Thrones would prolly have never been made...
      But the you u got Aegon the Unworthy and the Mad King down the line that prolly would resulted with Dany and young Viserys going overseas.

    • @Laketwig
      @Laketwig 6 місяців тому +1

      @@Phizzo4real no

    • @bloatus7611
      @bloatus7611 6 місяців тому +1

      I mean it's also because he's his brother lol. That's the reason he's had most of his jobs.

    • @Chasingdreams25
      @Chasingdreams25 6 місяців тому

      Well, Viserys has his position because of Daemon. It was Daemon who was gathering the lords support​ for Viserys in the Great Council, lots of lords were ready to support Rhaenys.
      So instead of thanking his brother and keep him by his side, he kept sending him away because of Otto.
      @bloatus7611

    • @bloatus7611
      @bloatus7611 6 місяців тому +2

      @@Chasingdreams25 And that's all well and good but that doesn't make him suited for any of the posts he was assigned or for court in general. In the first episode he already has a seat on the council but he wants to be hand.
      Viserys has a blind eye for his brother and Daemon has a desperate need to be seen. It's a dangerous combination.

  • @ccispahan7514
    @ccispahan7514 6 місяців тому +30

    @01:11:09: Caraxes, Daemon’s dragon, has a soft spot for Syrax, Rhaenyra’s dragon. He always coos at her. You can see him getting all excited when Syrax shows up!

  • @bill.godwin-austen
    @bill.godwin-austen 6 місяців тому +15

    A couple of things:
    GRRM has said before that because Daenarys and Viserys grew up in exile in the Free Cities in Essos that she spoke Valyrian with a Tyroshi accent. What we're hearing in this show is "proper" High Valyrian.
    The miniature city you see in Viserys' chambers is a model of old Valyria that he's been building.

  • @annbeths
    @annbeths 6 місяців тому +32

    Daemons dragon, Caraxes is easily one my favorite dragon desing!!
    Hes also called "The Blood Worm", because of his recognizable shape

  • @tonismith3707
    @tonismith3707 6 місяців тому +76

    Viserys and Rhaenys were both the King's grandchildren. Each from a different child of the King's, so they are 1st cousins.😊

    • @MrOctoberWuf
      @MrOctoberWuf 6 місяців тому +8

      Rhaenys was daughter of the King’s son (who had died) and Viserys was the son of the King’s daughter. Which is why there was an heir question and it had not been resolved ahead of time, like Viserys tried to make Rhaenyra heir ahead of his death.

    • @JimBz84
      @JimBz84 6 місяців тому +10

      @@MrOctoberWuf Viserys is the son of King Jaehaery's second son Baelon and second daughter Alyssa. So King Jaehaery's eldest male grandchild.

    • @MrOctoberWuf
      @MrOctoberWuf 6 місяців тому

      @@JimBz84 thanks. I missed that part. That explains it to me. I assume both of the king’s sons had died.

    • @mostlytrue3150
      @mostlytrue3150 6 місяців тому +1

      They both did die, hence the reason for the great council.
      I don't know if you were aware of this or not, but you don't turn to dust when your father dies. Not even in westeros.

    • @MrOctoberWuf
      @MrOctoberWuf 6 місяців тому

      @@mostlytrue3150 Really? Thanks so much. I didn’t realize. Although I guess should have when my father died a couple years ago… 🙄

  • @pvthurley
    @pvthurley 6 місяців тому +52

    Daemon made the gold cloaks what they are. He is everything to the gold cloaks and they are undyingly loyal because of him. He has an army of his own not to mention he is loved by the poor. He is the prince of flea bottom

    • @The_Bleeze
      @The_Bleeze 6 місяців тому +4

      Well, most are loyal...

  • @kellifranklin4432
    @kellifranklin4432 6 місяців тому +80

    Daemon Targaryan is certainly one of the most characters in the series.

    • @Atheos1
      @Atheos1 6 місяців тому +9

      agreed, probably the most in tv history

    • @MrOctoberWuf
      @MrOctoberWuf 6 місяців тому +2

      @@Atheos1😂

    • @Rash23215
      @Rash23215 6 місяців тому +7

      He's definitely the most....

    • @fluffylittlebear
      @fluffylittlebear 6 місяців тому +7

      Yeah he's definitely one of the most characters.

    • @Spirit529
      @Spirit529 6 місяців тому +6

      Don't know if typo or based

  • @hoon_sol
    @hoon_sol 6 місяців тому +59

    I don't think Ms. October was entirely right about Viserys' choice; it was not that he could sacrifice either of them, the choice was really just between sacrificing Aemma and giving the child a chance or to let them both die, there was really no scenario where Aemma would live.

    • @LuvFearlessly
      @LuvFearlessly 3 місяці тому

      The choice regardless should’ve been Aemma’s. And she didn’t want to be cut open.

    • @hoon_sol
      @hoon_sol 3 місяці тому +1

      @@LuvFearlessly:
      It's not so straightforward. The child's life also matters in that situation, so it's hard to say exactly who should get to decide, especially given that the child is Viserys' son.

  • @príncipe_lucerys
    @príncipe_lucerys 6 місяців тому +21

    21:03 Actually, you're right. Aemma would die anyway. The options were to sacrifice her to save the baby or just wait (the wait would cause the death of both).

  • @havok6280
    @havok6280 6 місяців тому +24

    The Hightowers are in GoT. They rule Oldtown, which is where the Maesters are trained. It's also the home of the Faith of the Seven.

    • @MrCzerillo
      @MrCzerillo 6 місяців тому +6

      Although she wasn't seen, Jorah's wife was a Hightower.

  • @cliffordrose4335
    @cliffordrose4335 6 місяців тому +23

    Corlys Velaryon is Lord of Driftmark and resides at High Tide which is closer to King's Landing than Dragonstone is but adjacent to it in Blackwater Bay. He is the wealthiest man in all the Seven Kingdoms but no pirate 🦜. He earned the title "The Sea Snake" because of his nautical accomplishments as he sailed all over Essos and brought back rare jewels, treasures and exotic animals and precious spices the likes of which Westeros had never seen before. His family is predominantly Black on the HBO adaptation and they are descendants of Old Valyria who actually came over from Essos before the Targaryens did.

  • @pinkslash2340
    @pinkslash2340 6 місяців тому +6

    43:57 Stannis Baratheon was master of ships at the beginning of game of thrones. Mace Tyrell was promoted to the position by Tywin serving double duty as Master of Laws. And by the end of series Davos Seaworth held the position.
    This is mostly the same in the books with it starting with Stannis, followed by Mace Tyrell. Then having Aurane Waters, and Paxter Redwyne filling the positions after that.

  • @TessaxMusic95
    @TessaxMusic95 6 місяців тому +21

    That statue of that dragon you pointed out in the beginning? That’s the place where Ned will be beheaded😢

  • @iiCicero
    @iiCicero 6 місяців тому +133

    "is that real or is it propaganda" brother you just finished game of thrones hahaha

    • @TheOctobersReact
      @TheOctobersReact  6 місяців тому +9

      so? just cause the long night came, it didn't mean it was cause of the prophecy, maybe it was inevitable so why not just say that

    • @brazyyyyyyyyyy
      @brazyyyyyyyyyy 6 місяців тому +45

      @@TheOctobersReact really? 😂 just say you didn't catch it, it happens sometimes and what you just said don't even make sense

    • @AzkuulaKtaktu
      @AzkuulaKtaktu 6 місяців тому +1

      "Prophecy will bite your prick off every time"

    • @nab4719
      @nab4719 6 місяців тому

      it was so funny hahahaha

    • @MADKIDD623BHN
      @MADKIDD623BHN 6 місяців тому +7

      ​@@TheOctobersReact....nah, you buggin' fam... 😅

  • @lokiplays6868
    @lokiplays6868 6 місяців тому +8

    Damn! Mrs. October recognizing and translating the High Valaryan in the first few minutes lol

  • @SciFiCatGuy
    @SciFiCatGuy 6 місяців тому +9

    Mr. October pretty much hit the nail on the head concerning the dragon eggs and how they bond with Targaryen kids in the cradle and afterwards.
    Otto is more of a cross between Tywin Lannister and Middlefinger, than he is like Varys.
    Description of Daemon from the books:
    "In his day there was not a man so admired, so beloved, and so reviled in all Westeros. He was made of light and dark in equal parts. To some he was a hero, to others the blackest of villains."
    Daemon loves Viserys. He would never harm him. When he was 16 Daemon raised an army to defend Viserys' claim to the throne. What Daemon wants is to restore House Targaryen to its former glory. In his eyes Viserys is weak and that weakens House Targaryen. That's why he wants to be Hand of the King.

  • @captironsight
    @captironsight 6 місяців тому +18

    Alicent: "Is your dad Bee keeping age?"
    Rhaenyra: 👁👄👁

  • @SeanHodgson-x4h
    @SeanHodgson-x4h 6 місяців тому +39

    Great reference to GoT with the line "Promise me Rhaenyra, promise me." Exactly what Lyanna said to Ned.

    • @havok6280
      @havok6280 6 місяців тому +1

      The prince or princess who was promised.

  • @L.L.Cool.T
    @L.L.Cool.T 6 місяців тому +43

    Mrs Oct, you are right! “Valar dohaeris”means all men must serve. “dohaeris” means serve.
    I imagine dragon smells like burnt leather and ash.

    • @fluffylittlebear
      @fluffylittlebear 6 місяців тому +4

      I always assumed they smelled like alligators and crocodiles. Which is to say, they probably smell ungodly bad.

    • @Nichole-1989
      @Nichole-1989 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@fluffylittlebear Yeah I imagine they smell like the reptile exhibit at the zoo.

    • @CottageGremlin
      @CottageGremlin 6 місяців тому +3

      They smell like sulfer

    • @pricey1635
      @pricey1635 6 місяців тому +1

      Serve me vhagar! Serve me!

  • @ccispahan7514
    @ccispahan7514 6 місяців тому +4

    @01:20:26: House Hightower still exists in GoT, even though it does not appear in the show. Margaery’s mother is Alerie Hightower. Same goes with the Velaryons. They are vassals to Stannis. Lord Velaryon dies in the Blackwater battle. His bastard brother plays a role later but that’s only in the books.

  • @havok6280
    @havok6280 6 місяців тому +8

    Technically Corlys is a first son. He was speaking metaphorically. His house is second tier.
    Fun fact: Aegon the Conqueror's mother was a Velaryon.
    Also Princess Rhaenys's mother was a Baratheon. And Rhaenrya's mother was an Arryn.

  • @wonderwomanmillow2281
    @wonderwomanmillow2281 6 місяців тому +30

    Now we know that the dagger of Littlefinger , that killed the Nightking ,was the dagger of Aegon the Conquerer. Very long and important history of a dagger haha🙂Greetings from Germany😊

    • @Marfy_
      @Marfy_ 6 місяців тому

      its heavily implied it was never littlefingers dagger

    • @leonrussell9607
      @leonrussell9607 6 місяців тому

      Joffrey is the one who sent the assassin

    • @Mattis06
      @Mattis06 6 місяців тому

      @@leonrussell9607bro how could joffrey send the assassin

    • @leonrussell9607
      @leonrussell9607 6 місяців тому

      @@Mattis06 he's a spoiled prince, its heavily implied in the books that he gave the assassin the dagger

    • @Cream-2128
      @Cream-2128 5 місяців тому

      That dagger is show only for Aegon.

  • @amurderofbananas7449
    @amurderofbananas7449 6 місяців тому +14

    Remember when they said that Rhaegar laid a wreathe of Winter Roses on Lyanna's lap? Same idea.

  • @sammygmarie
    @sammygmarie 6 місяців тому +23

    Deamon doesn’t want power. He just loves his family. He wants to be at his brothers side but his brothers counsel continue to put ideas in the kings head to keep him away. He’s wreckless but he only wants to protect his family.

    • @JoanCollis
      @JoanCollis 6 місяців тому +1

      Totes! And he yearns for His approval

    • @kobarsos82
      @kobarsos82 6 місяців тому +6

      No need to spoil stuff like this, let them enjoy the series first, and judge for themselves before spilling beans like this.

    • @joeyken81
      @joeyken81 6 місяців тому +2

      @@kobarsos82 couldn't agree more. You actually see the Octobers start to question the characters' motives by episode 2. That's what the show wants them to do. No need telling them how they should feel.

    • @itsangie1176
      @itsangie1176 5 місяців тому

      @@joeyken81they’ve already seen the whole show pateron

  • @CritterDex
    @CritterDex 6 місяців тому +9

    The Targaryens have 2 different Archtypes you have the Dragon riders and also what they call "Dreamers".

  • @ogitherat1
    @ogitherat1 6 місяців тому +42

    The White Worm is a way more complex character than Shae.

  • @bill.godwin-austen
    @bill.godwin-austen 6 місяців тому +3

    The intro sequence beginning with Episode 2 is, literally, the Targaryen bloodline. Each of the round devices represents someone in the line. The first was Aegon the conqueror (with the symbol of his crown) and the streams of blood represent the children of that person. When the device fills with blood, it means that person has died. The last symbol shown in the ep.2 intro was for Rhaenyra, using the symbol of the charm on the necklace that her uncle Daemon gave her.

  • @JasonValencia
    @JasonValencia 6 місяців тому +4

    25:55 notice how there was no succession issue until Otto makes it one through sheer talking and pretending not to hear anybody else 😂 Daemon is the heir by all the laws of Gs and Ems. That’s what second sons are for (the heir and the spare). After Joffrey died, Tommen was crowned. That’s why everyone’s like wtf you talking about Otto? (Viserys: what matter? Corlys: the king has an heir Lyonel: the succession is already set)

  • @icechoc
    @icechoc 6 місяців тому +6

    Rhaenys, Viserys, Aemma and Daemon are all grandchildren of the King Jaehaerys. All of Jaehaerys' children died in his lifetime.
    Rhaenys was the only child of Jaehaerys' firstborn son, Prince Aemon. Viserys and Daemon are the sons of Jaehaerys' 2nd son, Prince Baelon and eldest daughter, Princess Alyssa (yes, brother-sister marriage). Aemma is the child of Jaehaerys' daughter, Princess Daella.
    Viserys is married to his 1st cousin, Aemma. Jaehaerys himself was married to his sister, Queen Alysanne.

  • @Aaron-io8vw
    @Aaron-io8vw 6 місяців тому +7

    Season 5 episode 9 of Game of thrones, Shireen and Stannis have a conversation about the events of this prequel series.

    • @didyallseethat499
      @didyallseethat499 6 місяців тому +3

      So does Joffrey Baratheon (Lannister) in season 3 episode 4 while he’s trying to impress Marjorie Tyrell

  • @jorbysold-4707
    @jorbysold-4707 6 місяців тому +8

    You gonna see all types of dragons old, young, small, and big

  • @danielleyoung3133
    @danielleyoung3133 6 місяців тому +9

    Daemon is one of the best characters in this show he's such a badass

  • @brandonj7458
    @brandonj7458 6 місяців тому +13

    There's been almost 90yrs of Peace I think that's why certain people are so chill about things....it's just been too peaceful for too long

    • @hawks7111
      @hawks7111 6 місяців тому

      I mean.. technically he got it?

  • @dannyjferrell
    @dannyjferrell 6 місяців тому +10

    FINALLY

  • @melissakozusko9244
    @melissakozusko9244 6 місяців тому +4

    The juxtaposition of the fighting at the tournament and the violence of birth in this episode really took my breath away.

    • @DanInMUC
      @DanInMUC 6 місяців тому

      "The childbed is our battlefield"

    • @gunkulator1
      @gunkulator1 5 місяців тому

      The show cuts back and forth between the tournament and the birthing bed. Check out of the overhead shots of the tournament field. The shape is not accidental.

  • @tonismith3707
    @tonismith3707 6 місяців тому +11

    Otto wanted a King's Guard that would be loyal to him.😊

  • @ronaldamcmillian6014
    @ronaldamcmillian6014 6 місяців тому +4

    Margeary Tyrell’s mother was a Hightower so they still exist in the original Game of Thrones. They just weren’t shown in the original series.

  • @tonismith3707
    @tonismith3707 6 місяців тому +4

    That was Balerion the Black Dread's skull in the dungeons of the Red Keep, the one Cercei shot with a bolt from the scorpion.😊

    • @TallyDrake
      @TallyDrake 6 місяців тому +1

      You're saying Cercei shot Balerion? Really? 🤔

  • @Blinkptx
    @Blinkptx 6 місяців тому +3

    Y'all just made my GoT damn day!!! So glad we're finally getting these reactions!

  • @IAmJustR
    @IAmJustR 6 місяців тому +5

    Aegon’s Song of Ice & Fire Prophecy is essentially the entire story of GOT. A Targaryen must be on the throne because they have dragonfire for The Long Night.
    SO excited you guys are diving in and catching up 🥰

  • @chrisrumpy
    @chrisrumpy 6 місяців тому +16

    Damon grows on you, I had the same feeling for most of the first season.

    • @MrCzerillo
      @MrCzerillo 6 місяців тому +1

      Does he though? Maybe rethink your life.

    • @Wolfhunter5607
      @Wolfhunter5607 6 місяців тому +3

      Daemon the most interesting to me but all these characters are horrible people besides 2-3

    • @--ArcAngel--
      @--ArcAngel-- 5 місяців тому

      Never liked Damon, still don't like Damon.
      To be honest, the biggest difference to me between this show and GoT (obviously the world is smaller, and the dragons are more numerous and bigger)...but GoT made me love multiple characters very early in the show. HotD, not so much.

    • @Wolfhunter5607
      @Wolfhunter5607 5 місяців тому +1

      @@--ArcAngel-- tuff

    • @--ArcAngel--
      @--ArcAngel-- 5 місяців тому

      @@Wolfhunter5607 do you disagree? I wanted to love these characters like i loved Jon, Arya, Tyrion, Dany, etc., with the first couple episodes. Im having a hard time genuinely liking anyone in HotD.
      The dragons look great tho! 😂

  • @mereassassinates550
    @mereassassinates550 6 місяців тому +2

    1:05:18 this line always cracks me up because in Game of Thrones season 8 it was 3 women who set the realm on fire because each 3 wanted to be queen 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

  • @hartjohnson2975
    @hartjohnson2975 6 місяців тому +6

    There was a Targryan daughter with the gift of prophecy. She saw the doom and the Targaryens went to Dragonstone BEFORE. Everyone present at Valyria died. Corless Valarian's line survived because as sailors, they were not present. Also, Rhaenes was the granddaughter of Jahaerys. Viserys was the king's brother's grandson... so a great nephew. Rhaenes was the more direct line, but Viserys was male...
    Also, I think Rhaenera and Daemon are truly fond of each other. He still is who he is, but if there is anyone in the world he has sincere feelings for, it is her. She has never judged him and I think that has a lot to do with the chip on his shoulder.

    • @gailf1617
      @gailf1617 5 місяців тому

      Viserys was also King Jaehaerys' grandson. Rhaenys is the only child of Jaehaerys' older son, Prince Aemon. Viserys and Daemon are the children of Jaehaerys' younger son, Prince Baelon the Brave. Both Prince Aemon and Prince Baelon predeceased their father King Jaehaerys I.

  • @carriesmith742
    @carriesmith742 6 місяців тому

    34:25 the Targaryens went to Dragonstone 12 years before The Doom of Valyria and stayed there about 110 years until Aegon's Conquest was underway. This show started at 101 A.C. and it's now 112 A.C. when the show opens because "The Old King", Jaehaerys I (Daemon and Viserys' grandfather), died in 103 A.C.

  • @Ruimas28
    @Ruimas28 6 місяців тому +4

    One of the things with the princess picking the Kings Guard,
    She is supposed to be a teenager like you very well pointed out. Plus, it was established that she had not been raised exactly for power. She was expected to marry and have kids. But she was also obviously pampered and they let her do her thing.
    So you really get a rebellious teenager.
    What do you think she will pick? She is going to pick the hot strong guy. She is not yet thinking strategic. And it would be quite remarkable if she could think strategic at this point in time.
    She is very much like: "I do my thing"
    She needs to mature into her heir role and see if she can find the right balance between being strategic / powerful.
    On the marriage age thing, there are some historical examples in European history. In times of political instability or war, sometimes girls could be married very early if that translated into some important strategic alliance.
    Couple examples you can google:
    England: Margaret Beaufort, the mother of the Tudor dinasty. She was married at a very young age in the middle of the War of the Roses. She became a widow single mother as a teenager. And somehow managed the long game political play.
    Castille: Joana la Beltraneja, she was also married at a very early age and married to her own uncle. This was because her right as heir was being disputed. She married her uncle who was the King of Portugal. This was in hopes that Portugal would support her claim to Castille. She was very much defeated. Had no kids and was kind of forced out of Castille and should have spent her life as a nun. She lived in Portugal and because she was former Queen of Portugal she was allowed at court and well taken care.
    Just to give you 2 interesting historical examples with girls who had to marry at very early age. One won the long term game, the other lost.

  • @Raskullbx
    @Raskullbx 6 місяців тому +5

    Hotd Season 1 Dragons:
    Daemon's Dragon - 'Caraxes' (The Bloodwyrm)
    Rhaenyra's Dragon - 'Syrax'
    Rhaenys's Dragon - 'Meleys' (The Red Queen)
    Vermax
    Arrax
    Dreamfyre (I think in season 1)
    Seasmoke ( ______'s pride and passion)
    King Jaehaerys's (The Old King) Dragon - 'Vermithor' (The Bronze Fury)
    And
    'Vhagar' - She was Visenya's Dragon (Aegon I Targaryen) The Conqueror's Sister Wife)
    Daemon also wields Visenya Targaryen's valyrian sword 'Dark Sister'
    And
    (Viserys I) also has House Targaryen ancestral valyrian sword. That was Aegon The Conqueror's sword 'Blackfyre'

  • @VikashTiwari-s6c
    @VikashTiwari-s6c 6 місяців тому +11

    House Hightower is there in Game of Thrones, They just didn't play a big role. They're the Lords of Old Town. Sam visited there to train as a maester.

    • @morpheusjones4753
      @morpheusjones4753 6 місяців тому

      I don't recall them ever introducing one however. Were they in the books that were completed for G.O.T.?

    • @hoon_sol
      @hoon_sol 6 місяців тому +2

      ​@@morpheusjones4753:
      They didn't quite "introduce" one, but there is at least an explicit mention of one in the show that I could find, namely in season 6, episode 3, "Oathbreaker"; when Cersei and Jaime crash the Small Council there's a statement by Kevan that they don't have any position there, to which Jaime replies that the Lord Commander of the Kingsguard does in fact have such a seat, which prompts Cersei to ask Pycelle whether or not this is true, and then he says:
      *GRAND MAESTER PYCELLE:* _Well, um...I would say Ser Gerold Hightower had a seat on the Mad King’s council. Of course, that was the Mad King. King Robert saw things differently._
      In the same episode we also see this very Gerold Hightower, "the White Bull", guarding the Tower of Joy along with Arthur Dayne (and Oswell Whent), so he's not only mentioned by name, but also in fact shown on screen (although Bran only mentions Dayne by name at that point).
      He is also the only Hightower to be mentioned throughout the main body of _A Game of Thrones_ (the first book), four times in the context of the Tower of Joy, and once by Barristan Selmy when he's being dismissed, arguing that Gerold Hightower himself (the then Lord Commander) had witnessed his vows.
      Apart from the main body there are also a couple of mentions in the descriptions of the main houses at the end, in the context of House Tyrell, to which House Hightower is sworn. The most important mention there is the fact that Mace Tyrell, Margaery's dad, is married to and had her with Alerie Hightower, making Margaery half Hightower; that's certainly something of note. The only other note is one Leyton Hightower, "Voice of Oldtown, Lord of the Port", as the penultimate name listed there, which would be the head of the house (which is what Hobert, Otto's older brother, is in HotD, Otto is also one of the realm's "second sons").
      In _A Clash of Kings_ (the second book), this Leyton is mentioned again, this time in the context of Jorah, who tells Daenerys that his second wife was Lynesse Hightower, whom he praised as incredibly beautiful, and who was the daughter of said Leyton; he also says the aforementioned Gerold Hightower was her great-uncle, and that the Hightowers are an ancient family that is rich and proud, to which Daenerys adds that they were also loyal, having heard that Viserys (her brother, just to be clear) said they stayed true to Aerys (the Mad King, Daenerys' father).
      Then Renly briefly brags to Stannis about all the banners he's raised of various houses following him, mentioning Hightower as one of them.
      Another mention there of Gerold is when Jaime is telling Catelyn about what the Mad King did to Rickard and Brandon Stark, stating how Gerold had taken him aside and reiterated that he had sworn a vow not to judge the king, so as to make it clear just how loyal Gerold was to Aerys.
      And in the end there's a small mention of Leyton's wife being one Rhea Florent.
      In _A Storm of Swords_ the first mention is when the Lannisters and Tyrells are divvying up the spoils of war after the Battle of the Blackwater, where Lord Hightower is mentioned as being given a tract of land. Tyrion also mentions that offending the Tyrells is offending the notable houses sworn to them, including the Hightowers. As part of the same meeting Tywin also mentions how offering Tyrion in marriage to various houses had been considered an insult, including by Leyton Hightower.
      Then there's a brief mention of Gerold by Jaime as he fights Brienne, listing him as one of several people who had been stronger than him, as he thinks to himself that Brienne is too, and that she doesn't appear to be wearing down.
      Later there's another mention by Jaime as he recalls his investiture into the Kingsguard, which Aerys had made a great show of, and where there had been a great roar when Gerold had raised him up and placed the white cloak on him, just to be immediately followed by Aerys bossing Jaime around to various places, making it clear for Jaime that he'd been chosen to spite Tywin by taking his prime choice of heir away from him.
      Jaime also has a nightmare where Gerold some of the others (like Dayne and Whent) remind him of his treachery of the Mad King.
      Then later Catelyn is talking to some Mormont women, where they briefly mention Lynesse, and Catelyn remembers Jorah having brought her to Winterfell, and that Lynesse had admitted that she was unhappy and that the north was no place for a Hightower of Oldtown.
      The next mention is a cooler one, as it's Otto Hightower himself being mentioned as a bunch of hands are listed; he is said to have been renowned for learning.
      Then there's a mention of one Lord Commander Runcel Hightower of the Night's Watch, who had apparently tried to bequeath the Watch to his bastard son.
      Another mention is when Jaime moves into the apartment where the previous Lord Commanders had quartered, asking himself how the Kingslayer could be in the exalted company of such people as Gerold (and Selmy). Then there's a listing of Selmy's life history in the book he finds, where Selmy is stated as having been appointed to the Kingsguard by Gerold at 23, and having unseated Leyton at a tournament held at Storm's End.
      Another interesting mention of a hitherto unmentioned Hightower is when Oberyn recounts to Tyrion their first encounter, talking about Elia, his sister (who was later married to Rhaegar, and played quite a prominent role in the ordeal that ensued), and that one of her more presentable suitors at that point was one Baelor Hightower, son of Leyton; sadly he farted once in her presence, upon which Oberyn had called him Baelor "Breakwind", and he was never taken seriously by Elia again. Tyrion thinks to himself that Baelor was still Leyton's heir, and was "wealthy, handsome, and a knight of splendid respute"; he thinks about how Elia would probably still be alive and living in Oldtown if she had chosen him, wondering "how many lives had been snuffed out by that fart".

    • @hoon_sol
      @hoon_sol 6 місяців тому +1

      @@morpheusjones4753:
      Then in _A Feast for Crows_ (the fourth book) it starts off with a prologue in Oldtown, where "the distant breacon of the Hightower floated in the damp of night like a hazy orange moon"; their seat is after all literally a great lighthouse. There's also a mention of another one of Leyton's titles as Lord of the Hightower being "Protector of the Citadel"; this is where Sam studies with the maesters to become one himself, underscoring both the association between House Hightower and learning and their connection to the maesters.
      There's also another very powerful description of the Hightower itself that I will quote in its entirety here, where it's also mentioned that Leyton apparently doesn't leave the Hightower at all:
      *_«And beyond, where the Honeywine widened into Whispering Sound, rose the Hightower, its beacon fires bright against the dawn. From where it stood atop the bluffs of Battle Island, its shadow cut the city like a sword. Those born and raised in Oldtown could tell the time of day by where that shadow fell. Some claimed a man could see all the way to the Wall from the top. Perhaps that was why Lord Leyton had not made the descent in more than a decade, preferring to rule his city from the clouds._*
      Then there's a mention of Obara Sand wanting to march on Oldtown, to which Doran Martell ask her how exactly she plans to hold it, to which she says it will be enough to sack it, mentioning "the wealth of Hightower".
      The next mention is when Pycelle tells Jaime about some of the things he's seen during his life, talking about how he were a boy "when the grey plague took half the city and three-quarters of the Citadel", and how Lord Hightower (not Leyton, but one Quenton Hightower) had burned every ship in port and closed the gates, and commanded the guards to kill everyone who tried fleeing so as to prevent further spread; after the plague the people had brutally killed him and his son for it, mentioning how the ignorant in Oldtown to this day would spit at his name, despite how he had done what was necessary according to Pycelle.
      Then there's another very interesting mention that really ties in with the events of the series, namely how the High Septon at the time of Aegon's Conquest had locked himself in the Starry Sept (the seat of the Faith at the time, highlighting the connection between the Hightowers and the Faith) to pray for seven days and nights straight with just bread and water, emerging with claims that the Crone (one of the Seven, the gods of the Faith) had "lifted up her lamp to show him what lay ahead", and that Oldtown would burn if they opposed Aegon, and that the Starry Sept and the Hightower would be destroyed; it doesn't take a military genius to realize this, but Lord Hightower complied and laid down his arms and opened up the gates to Aegon when he arrived, anointing him and accepting him as king.
      There's also a mention by Sam when he and Gilly is approaching Oldtown, and Gilly sees the castle of Three Towers, the seat of House Costayne, and remarks that it's very tall, to which Sam replies, "wait until you see the Hightower". More interestingly is how he then speaks to the captain of a ship who tells him that the Ironborn are plundering Oldtown now, which surprises Sam as House Hightower was said to be as wealthy as House Lannister and able to command three times the swords of House Tyrell, but the captain implies both that the Hightowers weren't prepared for such a threat from the sea, and also that there are some signs that Leyton, who hasn't left the Hightower for a long time, isn't quite in his right mind. The aforementioned Baelor, his son, is mentioned again as building ships, and various other Hightowers are name-dropped as having various responsibilities in the task: Gunthor, Garth, and Humfrey. Gunthor is shortly thereafter mentioned as another of Leyton's sons (so Baelor's brother), as he comes aboard Sam's ship for inspection.
      At the end of the book there is an entire section dedicated to House Hightower this time around, including a description, which I'll also quote in its entirety:
      *_«The Hightowers of Oldtown are among the oldest and proudest of the Great Houses of Westeros, tracing their descent back to the First Men. Once kings, they have ruled Oldtown and its environs since the Dawn of Days, welcoming the Andals rather than resisting them, and later bending the knee to the Kings of the Reach and giving up their crowns whilst retaining all their ancient privileges. Though powerful and immensely wealthy, the Lords of the High Tower have traditionally preferred trade to battle, and have seldom played a large part in the wars of Westeros. The Hightowers were instrumental in the founding of the Citadel and continue to protect it to this day. Subtle and sophisticated, they have always been great patrons of learning and the Faith, and it is said that certain of them have also dabbled in alchemy, necromancy, and other sorcerous arts._*
      *_The arms of House Hightower show a stepped white tower crowned with fire on a smoke-grey field. The House words are We Light the Way.»_*
      A list of family members is also provided, and I'll just mention the hitherto unnamed Hightowers:
      - Malora Hightower, "the Mad Maid", Leyton's daughter, whom he is apparently consulting spells with while locked in the Hightower as the Ironborn keep plundering Oldtown.
      - Denyse, Leyla, and Alysanne Hightower, all three more of Leyton's daughters.
      _A Dance with Dragons_ strictly speaking came out shortly after the first episode of the show (GoT) was released, but I'll consider that one too. Apparently there's only a single explicit mention of the name Hightower here, where one Lady Dustin talks about how a certain Maester Walys is noted to previously have been Walys Flowers, with "Flowers" being a bastard name like "Snow" and "Sand" and so on, and that he was rumored to have been the son of a Hightower girl and an archmaester of the citadel, with the remark that the "grey rats" (what she calls the maesters) not being as chaste as they wanted people to believe.
      So there you go, those are all the explicit mentions of the name "Hightower" in the books. As you can see they clearly weaved into the story and world it's set in; even if they don't feature that prominently in the story they're definitely one of the greater houses.

    • @VikashTiwari-s6c
      @VikashTiwari-s6c 6 місяців тому +1

      @@morpheusjones4753 Apart from the mentions in the Books, Even in the OG Show? In One of Bran's vision of Robert's Rebellion (in Dorne), We do meet Lord Commander Ser Gerold Hightower, of the Kingsguard along with Ser Arthur Dayne. Although, Dumb&Dumber made it appear him like a sidekick to Dayne despite him being a legend in his own right.
      Also, Jorah Mormont's "expensive" wife, was a Hightower.

  • @hoon_sol
    @hoon_sol 6 місяців тому +6

    Ms. October is exactly right; "valar dohaeris" means "all men must serve", and "dohaeras" would be the imperative of "serve", i.e. "serve!"

  • @andyfern8923
    @andyfern8923 6 місяців тому +5

    Yes, THAT was THE dagger

  • @joeyken81
    @joeyken81 6 місяців тому +3

    Actually, both houses Velaryon and Hightower existed in GoT, but they don't have any visual presence in the show. The Velaryon, being vassals to Dragonstone fought with Stannis in The War of The Five Kings.
    House Hightower arguably should have been included as they are one of the richest and most influential houses in Westeros (despite not being directly involved in the politics during that period). They are the house that established the Citadel and their castle is the tallest in Westeros. Taller than the wall.
    Fun fact: Margery Tyrell's mother and Jorah's ex-wife are both Hightowers (and sisters).

  • @Raskullbx
    @Raskullbx 6 місяців тому +4

    The opening credits with the theme shows the bloodline of house targaryen and their blood of old valyria coursing thru their veins.
    The bloodline is flowing through king viserys's model structure that is seen in his bedchambers. Starting with 'the doom of old valyria' in essos.
    Each cog has a sigil / crest that represents a member of house targaryen in bloodline / family tree order.
    Whenever a sigil is covered in blood, it means that the person it represents has passed. If the sigil is visible, it means that targaryen that the sigil represents is still with us in the series.

  • @mauricioherrera95
    @mauricioherrera95 6 місяців тому +2

    Not sure if someone clarified the intro for you already and although there are vids here in YT about it and explaining it in detail, just as to give you an idea of what it is about here you have: The intro starts with the sigil of Aegon The Conqueror, his blood line flows down and unites to both his sister-wives sigils (Rhaenys and Visenya) but we only see the bloodline flow from Rhaenys's and then the bloodline continues down to his descendants, Aenys I, then Jaehaerys I and his sister-wife Alysanne, they had 13 children, only 9 of them made it to adulthood that's why you see their bloodline split in 9 different branches... you then have Viserys and Aemma's sigil, then Rhaenyra's, also Alicent's bloodline in the backgroung, etc etc. Something to note about the intro is that if the character is dead then their sigil floods in blood. And also all of it is happening on a Valyria stone-made set-up which is allusive to Visery's model of Valyria that he's been building in his room.

  • @poisoninmyiv
    @poisoninmyiv 6 місяців тому +3

    I wouldn't assume that something happened to a certain house just because they weren't around in GoT. There were many houses that weren't mentioned but were definitely present.... Margaery's mother was actually a Hightower and the Velaryons were vassals of Stannis :)

  • @NWBA14
    @NWBA14 5 місяців тому

    “I’m just sayin cuz they’re 170 years closer to their valaryian roots right” killed me 😂

  • @zzzkoszzz
    @zzzkoszzz 6 місяців тому +11

    "Don't fight in the North or the South. Fight every battle, everywhere, always, in your mind. Everyone is your enemy. Everyone is your friend. Every possible series of events is happening at once. Live that way and nothing will surprise you. Everything that happens will be something you’ve seen before." -Littlefinger
    ~This show/story gets twisty nuanced pretty fast. Try not to pick sides and see each characters point of view. You where really good at doing that with GoT.

  • @believeume122
    @believeume122 6 місяців тому +3

    Daemon is an amazing character, things with him are never just black and white. He loves his family.
    Daemon wanted to be the hand to protect him from people who would backstab him. It's low hanging fruit to say you dont like Daemon. His chaos is just just so entertaining.

  • @housebeats31
    @housebeats31 6 місяців тому +10

    Might be the first person to like Otto Hightower lol

  • @arianaquinones5359
    @arianaquinones5359 6 місяців тому +3

    Corlys isn’t literally a second son he means that House Velaryon is second to House Taragaryen where as Daemon is second to Viserys(obviously as an actual second son)

  • @rafm3068
    @rafm3068 6 місяців тому +1

    Im happy you have begun your journey in House of the Dragon!

  • @TheEsuritio
    @TheEsuritio 6 місяців тому +4

    Let's go! So stoked to watch you guys react to this show. It's so good. Thanks for all the content!

  • @aegonthedragon6341
    @aegonthedragon6341 6 місяців тому +2

    23:51 Good eye, Daemon is indeed a snake.

  • @asparks2727
    @asparks2727 6 місяців тому +1

    I'm so excited you guys are reacting to this show!! Loved your GOT reactions!

  • @CritterDex
    @CritterDex 6 місяців тому +4

    There are several different breeds of dragon (like dog breeds.) Daemons dragon Caraxes is a different breed, but the main thing is Caraxes was born deformed, that's why he kind of looks like a "snake".

  • @MsAaannaaa
    @MsAaannaaa 6 місяців тому +5

    Rhaenyra‘s Dracarys sounds different because she doesn’t have an accent when speaking High Valyrian -Dany does.

    • @GullibleTarget
      @GullibleTarget 6 місяців тому

      I imagine that the dragon keepers speak Valerian with Lyseni and/or Myrish and Volantene accents.

  • @John_Locke_108
    @John_Locke_108 6 місяців тому +6

    So glad that you're watching.
    HoTD was such a pleasant surprise for the fans after the letdown that was Season 8 of GoT. It's a remarkable show and so far Season 2 has been just as good.

    • @AzkuulaKtaktu
      @AzkuulaKtaktu 6 місяців тому +2

      Seasons 5-7 were the let down. It all came home to roost in season 8

    • @GullibleTarget
      @GullibleTarget 6 місяців тому

      ​@@AzkuulaKtaktusomeday people will get over it, I hope. GoT gave me 10 years of enjoyment.😅

    • @AzkuulaKtaktu
      @AzkuulaKtaktu 6 місяців тому +1

      Nah. Just over 4 years of enjoyment. Then 2 years of disappointment. Then 3 years of spite and rage.

  • @portugalgamermanel3404
    @portugalgamermanel3404 6 місяців тому +2

    43:53 the Tyrell was the master of ships. Before Cersei reduce the small council little by little :p

  • @mostlytrue3150
    @mostlytrue3150 6 місяців тому +1

    Just remember here in a couple of weeks who it was (otto) that pulled the strings to have Vyserys name Rhaenyra as his heir...

  • @jorbysold-4707
    @jorbysold-4707 6 місяців тому +5

    And yess that’s knife or w.e is the same knife Arya used to kill the ice king

  • @wildtime845
    @wildtime845 6 місяців тому

    51:34 it’s the royal blood line and it good to pay attention to the into as the episodes go on

  • @yomamma.ismydaddy216
    @yomamma.ismydaddy216 5 місяців тому

    “Frontside boardslide” 😂

  • @The_Bleeze
    @The_Bleeze 6 місяців тому +5

    I know y'all are already basically all caught up on Patreon, and in essence we're seeing your past selves react to this... but IDC how many war crimes he commits, we will not hear slander against our loveable rogue, the Dark Prince Daemon Targaryen! 😂

    • @TheOctobersReact
      @TheOctobersReact  6 місяців тому +5

      lol yeah no on youtube knows yet that we caught up and feel like whole different people about the show lol

  • @MADKIDD623BHN
    @MADKIDD623BHN 6 місяців тому +4

    There is a weirwoood in most castles in Westeros.... like Mrs. OCT said they still have some people who worship.... That's why most people swear "by the Old Gods & The New!"

  • @bardown390
    @bardown390 6 місяців тому +4

    The Targaryens left old valyria before the doom came. It is why they weren't wiped out.

  • @michaelanderson5301
    @michaelanderson5301 6 місяців тому +6

    Nice to see Arya's dagger. Also, take a look at the shape of the joisting arena. Very symbolic shape for a joust to honor the Queen's birthing.

  • @Nichole-1989
    @Nichole-1989 6 місяців тому +3

    "Valar Morghulis." = "All men must die."
    "Valar Dohaeris." = "All men must serve."
    * "Morghulis"
    * "To die"
    * "Dohaeris"
    * "To Serve"
    Queen Aemma was bound to die because the baby was breeched and they couldn't turn him around. But doing a C-section could save the baby. I just wish Viserys had told Aemma of the circumstances.
    The beginning shows the Targaryen bloodline. Basically each sigil stands for a member of the family. The crown represents King Viserys with Queen Aemma's smaller crown next to it. Her sigil fills with blood now that she is dead. The blood connecting their two sigils then trickles down to Rhaenyra's sigil because she is their daughter. More sigils will be added as the season moves forward.
    **Rhaenys (the Queen who never was) is married to Lord Corlys Velaryon. She is Viserys and Daemon's older cousin.**

  • @wildtime845
    @wildtime845 6 місяців тому

    35:09 that line is very important to remember

  • @deano2506
    @deano2506 6 місяців тому +1

    Maggots are still used in medicine today.
    I believe they are used for skin ulcers.
    They are put on the wound and then covered with a bandage for a few days.
    After a few days, they are removed, leaving behind a clean wound with all dead flesh gone, less inflammation, and a decrease in discharge.

  • @TenCapQuesada
    @TenCapQuesada 5 місяців тому

    I live in Spain where a lot of this was filmed. We see dragons flying overhead nearly every day, lol.

  • @beantownbrandon302
    @beantownbrandon302 6 місяців тому +1

    I LOVE HOUSE OF THE DRAGON!!! BEST SHOW IN YEARS 🔥🔥🔥🔥 Both GOT series are Iconic. You guys are almost caught up with the world 😊

  • @sebastianfruto1273
    @sebastianfruto1273 6 місяців тому +2

    No spoilers: in game of thrones many things were omitted, but this is just an extra fact that broadens your perception of this world.
    I don't know if you remember Margaery and loras tyrrel, from game of thrones, well they descend from the hightowers, they mother Alerie Tyrell who didn't appear in the show is the daughter of the Hightower lord of her time, which would make Alicent her great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-aunt (give or take a few "greats")
    and old town is where sam was learning to be a maester and where he cured jorah. old town is the ancestral home of the hightowers being the center and birth of the knowledge of westeros, being consequently a wealthy and politically powerful family, pd: the hightowers are still alive, they just didn't have much presence in game of thrones.

  • @misterisak
    @misterisak 6 місяців тому +4

    lets goooooooooooooo its octobers house of the dragon time

  • @Raskullbx
    @Raskullbx 6 місяців тому +3

    Over the centuries, 'House Targaryen' has produced both great men and monsters. But 'Prince Daemon' was both. In his day, there was not a man who was so admired, so beloved, and so reviled in all Westeros. He was made of light and darkness in equal parts. To some, he was a hero, to others the blackest of villains.

  • @bluegypsy71
    @bluegypsy71 6 місяців тому +2

    So glad you've caught up, it's a crazy ride, so many hard core GOT fans from the last decade were so burned out but those of us who gave HOTD a chance, myself included, can really see that the show has improved upon where GOT fell short, and they really kept that in mind.🖤🖤🖤

  • @Aaron-io8vw
    @Aaron-io8vw 6 місяців тому +3

    George RR Martin, the author of the books like to reference real world things with character and place names.
    Two members of house Tully who are alive during the period house of the Dragon takes place are named for Kermit the frog and Elmo from Sesame Street.

  • @kingzaid5055
    @kingzaid5055 6 місяців тому +3

    Damen has both faces of the coin the madness and the gratness and BTW gorge rr martin said his favorite character is damen of all his world that he wrote

  • @FMD70757
    @FMD70757 6 місяців тому +6

    I forgot how bad Misaria’s accent was first season.

    • @orcocan
      @orcocan 5 місяців тому

      its unbearable

  • @itss_nattyj
    @itss_nattyj 6 місяців тому +6

    Sheesh, Mr. October, try not to be so quick to judge these characters. I can’t believe you called King Viserys dumb. He’s so kind and fair. And Daemon…well Daemon is gonna be Daemon. Super grey character but very entertaining to watch. Have fun!

  • @MADKIDD623BHN
    @MADKIDD623BHN 6 місяців тому +5

    😂"Lets us know what a dragon smells like, guys..."🤣 ....yeah because we've all been around dragons....

  • @llayins
    @llayins 5 місяців тому

    Daemon is GRRM's favorite Targaryen and the grayest character he has ever created, in his own words. Daemon loves Viserys, Rhaenyra, etc. He loves and protects those who are his family. All he did during the episodes was just get his brother's attention. He may be a troubled and impulsive person, but he would never hurt those he loves.
    "For centuries, House Targaryen created great men and monsters. Prince Daemon was both. In his heyday, there was no man more admired, more adored, and more vilified in all of Westeros. He was equally made of light and darkness."

  • @mramos7028
    @mramos7028 6 місяців тому +3

    stannis was Roberts master of ships

  • @chrishouseinc
    @chrishouseinc 6 місяців тому

    23:00 Wow I've never seen anyone mention that birth scene that way and it's incredibly insightful actually when you put yourself in this world. you said "it's not just the kid and the wife, it's for the whole realm", and in this setting that is the truest and purest statement. Had the gambit paid off none of the dance of dragons would have happened with a "proper" heir. it sounds cold by our real world standards but would 100% be on the kings mind in that moment.

  • @mgill0627
    @mgill0627 6 місяців тому

    The guy with the dreds is Corlis Valereon. They are another Valyrian house but they don't have dragons, they have ships. Corlis is famous for making 9 voyages all over the known world. There are a cluster of islands called "The Step Stones" that is between Dorne and the Southern part of Essos. Anyone who wants to sail ships in the Narrow Sea has to pass them. From time to time, pirates set up there and disrupt shipping. Corlis has a problem with this since his business is shipping. The throne is closer to GRRM vision but still much smaller than what he describes. That was Cyrax, Rhaenera's dragon that lit the funeral pyre. Balerion died shortly after Vyzzy rode him for the one and only time. The only thing that can really kill a dragon is another dragon. The old king Jahaerys (the one they showed in the first scene) had 13 children. Only 9 of their children reached adulthood and all but 2 died before Jahaerys. One was a maester (and not a good King candidate) the other became a sex worker in Lys after her father exiled her. That's a good question about why Baelon's egg didn't go to the fire with him. They put the dragon eggs in the cradle so they can bond with the baby. Often times this works. Caraxes (The Throat GOAT) is Daemon's dragon. Cyrax is Rhaenera.

  • @karolswieboda1781
    @karolswieboda1781 6 місяців тому +1

    House Velaryon fought for Stannis in the war, but they were a shadow of their former glory by then.

  • @amongtheoaks
    @amongtheoaks 6 місяців тому +3

    If I remember correctly it was Daemon who gave the City Watch their gold cloaks. They are then nicknamed the Gold Cloaks because of him. If I’m wrong let me know, and I’ll delete this 😅

    • @joeyken81
      @joeyken81 6 місяців тому

      @@amongtheoaks you got it!

  • @jorbysold-4707
    @jorbysold-4707 6 місяців тому +3

    The prince Daemon is armor/helmet is designed to look like balerion the biggest dragon they known

  • @mathmexican4234
    @mathmexican4234 6 місяців тому +5

    Visarys should have chosen Leana. It's not like she won't age. He is King, he could wait until whenever he wanted to consumate, should he so please.

  • @AleCozz
    @AleCozz 6 місяців тому +2

    Daemon is such an interesting character. He's one of main villains in this story in my opinion.

    • @Aewon84
      @Aewon84 5 місяців тому

      Daemon is not a villain. He's a hero with villainous impulses.

    • @AleCozz
      @AleCozz 5 місяців тому

      @@Aewon84 I do think he is, it's no coincidence the very first time we saw him he was sitting on the iron throne, he always wanted to be king. Everyone keeps saying how much he loves his family and Rhaenyra but I just don't see that, he only loves himself, that's why Viserys never really trusted him.

  • @Eraser18574
    @Eraser18574 5 місяців тому

    The actor of Viserys is so damn good. Viserys as a character is fantastic also.

  • @Aaron-io8vw
    @Aaron-io8vw 6 місяців тому +2

    Rhaenys was the daughter of the old kings eldest son and Viserys was the older son of the Old kings second son.

  • @NickolasSegars
    @NickolasSegars 6 місяців тому +1

    Jaherys was his grandfather and he ruled for 55 years. The longest of anyone. And better than anyone else. His one rule, don't let civil war happen