'Stupidity' of slogans at heart of US campus protests shows they are pointless | Adam Boulton
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- Опубліковано 20 тра 2024
- "If you look at the root of it, they're not going to change anything about what Benjamin Netanyahu does."
US campus protests are unlikely to have an impact on Israeli policy and often spur on anti-semitic slogans, warns Adam Boulton on #timesradio
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Electoral issue? How would Trump be better at any of this?
He’d be far…far worse.
He isn’t, they simply won’t vote at all
He will pretend that he would be.
You miss the point. These protesters are ignorant. They may not be pro-Trump. But they are ant-Biden. They do not have the intelligence to think any further than that. And Trump thanks their cluelessness.
@@zurielsss So by not voting they knowingly allow Trump to win. Well its their choice I suppose
Think he needs to check his blood pressure 😮
I would like to see these students protesting the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
I suspect that's because the USA is openly against Russia at the moment, while not quite the same for Israel.
But Russia is not supporting Russia in committing ethnic cleancing. I’m sure they would if American weapons were sent to Moscow.
@@londanintshangaseplease try posting in English or some language that Google can translate. I don’t understand Gibberish and apparently Google doesn’t either.
@@londanintshangase, Russia is committing genocide in Ukraine. There’s no genocide in Gaza.
The Russians aren’t being supported by the US.
It's been Palestine for thousand years and it's just been taken of them in a sense I understand the lobby $$$$$ goes a long long way. Frofa
Adam seems very upset with folks over Israel long it will continue Adam 😊
Let's see who was on the right side vof history when sanctions start to hit.
"By and large pushed out of Arab cities after WWII..." Really? How is it that the majority of the Jewish population in Israel is Ashkenazi, rather than Misrahi?
Boulton is wrong and showed the distance between his age and misapprehension on this issue. It's this younger generation who will be in positions of power and seek to change things. Netanyahu & Co know and fears this...
Most of these college kids know alarmingly little about the conflict. I hope as they mature they may come to the conclusion that it is Israel that needs the protection for it's very existence. Also as they mature they will realise that they too need to keep a wary eye on Muslims.
@@narendra62 Oh yeah right, like you know. Dumb clown comment right there by somebody who knows absolutely nothing, just full of uneducated thoughts :-(
Violence and breaking into buildings, why does this all sound familiar, oh yea, Jan 6. The only difference is this isn’t a Gov building. You want to change things, start with the gun violence right here in our own schools. The fact that these “kids” are now choosing to vote for trump over Biden because of this just shows their complete ignorance about the world. Grow up!
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I would bet they know and understand a lot better than you. And you’re terrified
No these folks will not be in positions of power. These are the burger flippers of the next generation. At most, some rich daddies will buy these kids an office on one mahogany row or another. You know what mahogany row is, don't you? The bottom line is the Russo-Iranian war machine is failing, and you know it, but can't accept it.
volume is too low...
Boulton should hit the odd true statement just by sheer coincidence, once in a while, but he seems utterly incapable of forming a single coherent thought.
He is just an empty headed rightwing mouthpiece.
Who is the clown with the green tie? Why is he even on?
Condescending comments that will not stand the test time. All student protests are tilting at windmills but history will be on their side. It is not as simple as supporting one side or another but minimizing atrocities.
I disagree.
The Palestinians, especially Hamas, are not innocent. You forget that this started with an atrocity that killed a huge number of people. 1500 for a total population of 8.5 million is not insignificant (it would be 15k in the UK and 35k in the US).
If people really care about the children of Gaza - then ask why everyone is forcing the civilian population to stay in the warzone.
You are partially correct. Many are exactly as you say. However many of the agitators are full blown anti-semites. They taught these naive students anti-Semitic chants and tropes. Listen to Adam’s speech he claimed there were outside influences. Notice on all the compasses the tents look the same and the tactics are the same. These riots are not 100% organic. Although I do believe many of the protesters are sincere. However, they are being used and manipulated.
I saw an interview from the 80s where an ex KGB agent was describing the phases of a long term strategy to infiltrate western societies and develop such problems.
Where is the start of this video?
is this the octopus stammering genius you showed about a month ago?!
Octopus? Whatever are you talking about?
you could say that about any protest...
Stop genocide.
yes keep repeating the big lie and the heard may someday accept it as truth
@@kram4478silo stop genocide.
@@kram4478silowhat big lie, there are literally tens of thousands of dead Palestinians women and children. That’s not even counting the non combatants that are men. You stop lying.
Which one?
@@soleknight3212 Whatever you call it, we would surely agree that blocking supplies of food for millions of people in Gaza is actively starving people to death? And we would surely agree that that is bad thing?
This is literally just a barely challenged & incoherent ramble...
There is an old saying if the Israelis win Arabs lose land if the Arabs win Israelis cease to exist. So think about what you advocate for.
@victorbernard1256 wow...much intelligence...so thought provoking.
Without referring to the major religion of the state of Israel, can you explain the problem with the disappearance of a state, the majority of which is made up of land stolen with the barrel of a gun?
@@eddy66t6 if you’re referring to Palestine, it has never existed. Gaza was part of Egypt and the West Bank was part of Jordan. Palestine was the British mandate.
Until 1964 the Arabs in the West Bank and Gaza identified as Arab and country was either Jordan or Gaza.
Currently Israel has peace deals with both Egypt and Jordan.
An Arab state was proposed in 1947 but the Arabs turned it down. Remember West Bank was Jordan, Gaza was Egypt.
So the argument can continue over the land but there has NEVER been a state called Palestine.
If there was, who was the President, Prime Minister or Royal? Never existed
I personally hope one day it can be settled with 2 states. But unfortunately Hamas has set that back decades. And yes there is blame on Israel’s side as well, as they were happy to have Hamas. They were happy to have Hamas because as long as Hamas existed there cannot be peace.
@@victorbernard1256 Gaza's population is made up of refugees forced out of their native villages in what is now Israel
The guy in the brown jacket is the first I've heard mention the 'Jews go back to Europe' speech. I haven't seen that written or spoken and it would seriously taint any messages these protests were trying to get out. I'm going t go look more into this... and I hope it isn't correct. These voices were raised in solidarity from years past about Vietnam and Apartheid... I'd feel sick to know students were using them to voice hatred and bile... I'm finding that difficult to believe.
It's a very common sentiment among Palestinians. The decolonialist types pick it up as well.
well it might be worth looking into american jews offering land for sale in the west bank but only to jews, or looking at homes seized by israel which are given to american jews. its not just america, no doubt you heard the scottish and english accented israeli spokespersons, but at the root of this speech is the fact that european jews are not from the middle east, they are converts from bulgaria and russia and ukraine area, who then spread across europe. ashkenazi jews have no heriditary claim to the middle east. and while your feeling upset about this kind of speech, try and imagine how upset palestinians in the west bank feel as israel takes more and more land. netanyahu very recently held up a map in the UN where the west bank and gaza were not represented at all. but if you want to hear truly horrific speech... theres a jewish youtuber called coery gil shuster and he goes around israel and asks jews and arabs the really tough questions, you will be dumbfounded at the genocidal replies from jews and these vids are from almost 10 years ago.
and i also noticed he said jews were largely pushed out of middle eastern countries after the second world war.... theres a whole lot of story to that. in that zionists visted all these countries, even germany, to try to get more jews to go to palestine. not many jews were interested in moving to palestine, but the movement tried everything it could to get arab countries to throw out jews which would help the movements cause. 1940 iraq.... bagdad was 40% jewish, perfectly happy there for hundreds of years if not longer. iran today still has 10,000 jews, perfectly happy to live there, with obvious caveats. we must be blunt and honest, ashkenazi jews were given money by christian zionists to colonize palestine with a plan to create a jewish state. the palestninians were never given an option. briatin delayed the creation of palestine for 25years to allow jews to go from 3% to 30% of the population, and then UN gave them 55% of the land, which they instantly ethnically cleansed..... no sir. we have been lied to. in my view zionism is the worst thing thats ever happened to jews, its just too hard for them to face that yet.
Based on my own collage experiences there are a lot of Muslim students particularly Muslim women involved in liberal activism on collage campuses. The problem is that they have this very strong pull towards ethnic protectionism to the point were they are willing to side with people who they have absolutely nothing in common with just because they are middle eastern Muslims and not middle eastern Jews.
Part of this may have to do with how the administrations process play's very heavily to identity politics.
Just plane ignorance. No sense in justifying it. Islamic women led the revolution in Iran and it ended up very bad for them. They have even fewer rights now and they are being killed for not wearing the right clothing. Now they are spreading that ignorance around the world. Thier protests will get co-opted by the more radical elements in the “West” too. These kids are much more likely to get drafted to fight in Ukraine against Russia or in Asia against China or North Korea.
I wonder what percent of college students are actually protesting.
I heard the Dean of Journalism at Columbia say there are 30k students and a couple hundred protesters.
it really doesn't seem like too many. some of those universities have 40k+ enrollement or so. and UCLA is obviouls going to get a lot of non-students as well. I would imagine half or less are actual students at the larger protests. If you look at the helicopter view you will see that it is smaller than what is often projected on social media. About 100 tents at UCLA. I think it feels like there are more people because they are so loud and extreme. Bots on twitter and other social media will upvote or retweet selected messages to make it seem more popular
Exactly. We already know many outside agitators were arrested at Columbia
Second attempt at this, first time never posted. I heard the Dean of Journalism at Columbia say that the school has 30k students and a couple hundred protesters.
@@Todd.B i tried saying essentially the same thing and my message was removed too
Loved a good demo when I was a student. Its what students do. Cant remember being particularly informed about the causes. Nothing changes.
Listening to Adam Boulton criticise young students for protesting against a genocidal war is shocking to me
This student protests at home overshadow global conflicts like those in Ukraine and the Middle East, prompting a reevaluation of our priorities. That’s why this time, me, my family, friends, and everyone I know are leaning towards voting for President Trump.
Ah, the predictable feeble push back by establishment stooges. I never liked Adam Boulton, so depressingly cynical and glib, to the point of ridicule.
You're talking about elite American Universities. And Biden never liked Netanyahu, or his policies - but that doesn't mean all Israelis should be judged by their leader. And as your guest Mr Boulton says, student protests are not going to change what Netanyahu does. Palestinians are caught, as civilians, in this terrible crossfire. Viet Nam (for the US antiwar protests) was totally different. Students did impact the outcome - the US was drafting young men and they were going there to fight, so it was THEIR issue.
This is what differentiates Muslim and non-Muslim immigrants
Utter lies in the 1st sentence, great journalism 😆
Does anyone care what thinks Adam Boulton, Adam seems to be against protests in general, Times radio has gone done hill, better of reading the economist than these lot
No, he is obviously clueless. A lot of low-quality guests been popping up lately.
do they have demonstrations at universities in Muslim countries?
Are we in a Muslim country??? I thought we were western democracies. Well, clearly not the USA
Your life is pointless
Which one is more wrong - students settling in college campuses or Israelis settling in Palestinian lands?
If you start a war you must realise that if you lose, you lose. Israel was attacked from those lands so retaliates, sadly their enemy shelters its military behind women and children and below hospitals and schools so there are inevitably civilian deaths - as Hamas well knew before their attack. Hamas are sacrificing civilians for international propaganda against Israel - that's their tactics. There's been 70+ years of wars and every time the Palestinians lose but then immediately try to do the same thing again, expecting different results..
I didn't see any students getting attacked.......
After being forced out of Arab lands? What happened to Tunisia's Jews? What happened to Algeria's Jews? What happened to Syria's Jews? Your beloved Russo-Iranian war machine is falling apart. Better get used to that fact
Stop complaining. These student protesters have been taught from first grade about Anne Frank, the Holocaust, evil Nazls, and bad Columbus. They were trained to oppose genocide.
@browngreen933 Columbus, the man credited with discovering the Americas, was a greedy and vindictive tyrant.
If so then they also would’ve been protesting the Uyghur situation in China before. They don’t care.
@@mabusestestamentare US tax payers funding that?
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Probably in one way or another.
They are being trained as Marxist.
While the breathless TV coverage and the elaborate barricades may look daunting, in actual fact there are from 50 to at most several hundred protesters at each site. In New York nearly half of the arrests at Columbia and CCNY were non-students in their late 20s to 40s. The same ratio is coming out of UCLA. More people queue up outside an Apple Store when a new I-Phone is introduced than protesters at each of these venues.
Agree.
It's a pity to listen to tired old farts who should be wiser. Criticising the young protesting against Israel's obliteration of Gaza makes you look irrelevant and beholden to others.
Beautifully put.
Mostly beholden to the buffet table or the all you can eat places.
Spot on, good on ya :-)
Old white and safe at home…couldn’t find people more out of touch with reality?
Most importantly these protesters have not limited their discontent towards just the Israeli government. Opposition to war crimes or how a war is prosecuted is totally valid. Knowingly or not what they're protesting against now is the existence of a Jewish state and any persons or institutions that believe the Jewish people have a right to statehood.
israel is not a valid state. it was created by christian zionism who actually hated jews, the balfour declaration was not a benevolent action it was seen as a way to get rid of jews and the only british jew in the cabinet/parliament opposed the idea. so i understand its hard to realise israel is not valid, its a terrible tragedy for jews. but britain delayed the creation of palestine in order to import european jews and give them a state instead. so palestine should be a state, israel, no it should never have been created this way. zionism is the worst thing thats ever happened to jews
Strawman. This is about Netanyahu and his government's warcrimes, not the Israeli state or its people.
and i also noticed he said jews were largely pushed out of middle eastern countries after the second world war.... theres a whole lot of story to that. in that zionists visted all these countries, eve
israel is not a valid state. it was created by christian zionism who actually hated jews, the balfour declaration was not a benevolent action it was seen as a way to get rid of jews and the only british jew in the cabinet/parliament opposed the idea. so i understand its hard to realise israel is not valid, its a terrible tragedy for jews. but britain delayed the creation of palestine in order to import european jews and give them a state instead. so palestine should be a state, israel
israel is not a valid state.
Who is this Zionist?
Well spotted, just an establishment sheep bleating out another message. Effing dinosaur.
I think once 10 years ago a Palestinian blocked him at the food buffet, and he has never forgotten.
A clown 😊
It's possible he's a British (Conservative) Journalist who self hates due to his extra marital affairs
What is disturbing here is the guy only highlighting antisemitism. There is also the same genocidal attitudes towards Palestinians. Its meaningless only to point out genocidal attitudes of one side when both sides have these extreme elements
He's a Tory.
Because people like him don’t see Palestinians as human. They see them as less than Jewish Israelis.
These are our educated’ people .. lol😮
The protests in the U.S. are asinine. I don't think that the majority of students are actually protesting.I think most of the protestors aren't even student. The organizers COULD potentially be Iranian shills used divide Americans. or to set up for some sort of terrorist attack. I would understand it if there were Israel-American or Palestinian-Americans up in arms about what is going on, but that is a small minority of people. For the most part, none of these people who are protesting have any skin in the game.
Russia, Iran, North Korea, and China would be ecstatic for a Trump presidency, and so would the extreme religious right that is against aid to Ukraine Israel, Taiwan.
The protests may be the only things to keep the Israel conflict relevant and media worthy in the U.S.
Complete drivel and not even close to the truth, but you know your own mind don't ya ;-)
The timing, the scale, the coordination, the organization suggest this is more (much more!) than just an "university experience".
Agree
Somebody should inform Adam Boulton that the ICC is discussing an arrest warrant for Netanyahu. Boulton may want to stop being an apologist for isrl because that is going to age like milk.
This man knows little of history and please explain all the British American accents in Israel. Insteal was created with mainly Ukrainian Russian and Polish immigrants see who thier leaders came from. These people know nothing
Netanyahu was raised in the USA and his father was born in Poland.
The largest group of people in Israel are from Ukraine and Eastern Europe, not the Middle East. Boulton is a lier.
Israel is basically a European-Jewish colony.
So?
Hahahahah!!!
Boulton is right. This should not be getting coverage. It's insignificant in its own right.
"A considerable number of students"? Huh? It's like 100-150 on each campus. That's not a whole lot. More students camp out for basketball tickets at Duke and far more line up for days to get a ticket for a Taylor Swift concert and merch.
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These protestors are not really concerned with Gaza. It’s ridiculous.
These Protesters know exactly what they are Protesting
for , Protesting to stop the killing of
innocent Palestinian lives .
Inform yourself
understand the
situation .
Get an IQ test
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