Same. I just picked up the 64GB M3 Max from the Apple refurbished store, and it's amazing. It is basically the same price as the M4 Pro 48GB but has double the GPU cores and 12GB more memory.
I just placed an order on a macbook pro m4 pro with 24gb 1tb ssd. These is my first laptop in awhile like 20 years I didn't have a laptop. I'm trying to start to learn how to video edit and graphic design. Hope I can learn how to use a mac.
That is a kick ass system you ordered. You will love the mac. I used to use PC and then switched over to Mac and love it. The integration with the iPhone is also nice.
This is me... multiple teamviewers, a VM open all day, sometimes Docker, android and iOS emulators. dozens of firefox windows, outlook and Mail, itunes, Teams. Viber - basically the works. I need as much RAM as I can get. Currently doing all this on a 64GB i7 mac mini.
I initially purchased M4 Pro 12CPU/16GPU 24GB/512GB config but after spending two weeks with it, ordered M4 PRO 14CPU/20GPU 48GB/1TB. I don't want to regret not having enough memory after 3-4 years as plan on keeping it for 5 years minimum.
First config is an off-the-shelf config that costs $1900 at Best Buy right now. Second config is not off-the-shelf (so you can't get sales) and will costs $2800 through Apple. That $900 difference is half the price of the lower config. That difference can widen if AppleCare comes into consideration. If we extend these two purchasing trends to a 10 year timeline: The tendency of upgrading would cost you $5600 (2x$2800) with the possibility of trading in one 5 year old used machine. The tendency of buying less would cost you $5700 (3x$1900) with the possibility of trading in two 3-4 year old used machines. I'd go with the second option. You already have near price parity, but you'll get better trade-in value with newer machines (I got ~35% trade-in on my M1 Pro when I bought my M4 Pro, would maybe be 10% or 20% with an intel Mac but we'll see how used Apple silicon prices out as it ages further). Additionally you have an extra $900 in your pocket at any point in time that wouldn't have been there if you upgraded aggressively. That's potentially a big deal if an unforeseen expense hits you. Your device will also potentially be covered by AppleCare through its entire planned term of use. Lastly, you'll more frequently be on *newer* hardware, which will often matter more than being on better tier hardware from within an older generation (especially since Apple silicon is still new and rapidly iterating). All of that said, if you're making use of that extra RAM and disk today then you're spending your money on something that has material value today, rather than the hypothetical promise that it may last you a little while longer.
If you don't mind having a Macbook Air then you don't mind having minimum RAM. But if you want performance, RAM is often more important than CPU. No point in having a super CPU if it spends all it's time waiting for data to process.
Placed an order on an 14in M4 Max, 64GB and 2TB storage. I'm a video editor with occasional light motion graphics projects so this config is enough to last me at least 5 years.
My rule if you are a developer who keeps your computer for 4-7 years is to purchase double the base amount of RAM. This rule has served me well over the past 17 years with Mac’s. Plus LLM’s may only be 4-8GB now, but they will be pushing 16GB in the coming years. You may not always have a ML based workflow with an App that uses cloud processing. For example, maybe you are a Topaz AI photo editor user, those models run locally.
There is no such thing as most value for money. If you need to run several containers, UI tests, iphone simulators, machine learning, you need a lot of RAM and therefore the best value is not the 1800$ option but rather >3000$
I find that 64g ram is important for me - M4 Max 4tb 64g ram, traded in M1 Max same specs. This way I don't get the spinning ball or any hesitancy while working with several big applications open, as I need to do every day. :) Get as much memory as you can afford. I have never needed 128g and I'm a real heavy user.
I’m on a 2019 MacBook Pro rn. I do music composition and audio engineering (recording, mixing, mastering). I often hit 50+GB when i have bigger sessions not even using the latest and greatest software virtual instruments, which require even more samples loaded into ram for best performance. I am wondering if i should stay with 64GB or get more since currently video memory is separate. Most projects will hit 32GB which is why i got 64, but now i’m doing bigger things at times and it gets close to it. Is 12GB enough for video if I’m running multiple monitors? My current GPU has like 8GB of vram and it struggles at times i think.
All solid advice. I have two Mac's. An M2 Max 16" MacBook Pro with 64GB RAM that I use for software development. Is it overkill? A little bit but it is two years old now (well it is next month) and has meant I've had zero worries with memory since day one and won't have any for a long time to come. I can easily push over 32GB with all of my development tools so I knew 48GB would be needed and that was two years ago so I went 64 just to future proof it a little bit and I am glad I did. My second Mac is an M3 13" MacBook Air which I bumped the RAM up to 24GB. The reason for this is while I don't do much heavy work on it (as I have the Pro for that) I like having that bit extra for when I need to do slightly heavier work on a very mobile laptop. I tend not to take my 16" Pro when I travel to clients as it is that much bigger and a bit annoying to travel with constantly so I picked up the Air to take to with me when I do client visits and have a super light laptop. The 24GB does me well as easily hit 16GB and memory pressure goes into the red but with 24GB it only sometimes goes into the yellow with swap almost never being used so it is a nice amount for my needs, plus it will hopefully give it a little bit more useful lifetime. But of course I use these two machines for work and so while they're expensive they're actually some of the cheapest investments I make in overall business costs plus they're business tax deductable so spending the extra €230 for the 24GB RAM vs the 16GB doesn't really cost me anything as I can claim it back against my businesses operating expenses. Obviously this is only possible if you're using it for work and are a registered business so not a real advantage to a consumer but if you're a consumer just buying it for personal use honestly you should probably just stick with the base models anyway unless you know your hobby personal use requires more. If you don't know how much RAM you need then just stick with the base models imho.
They said that about the m1 8gb ,256 SSD. Now with ai etc and the fact you can never upgrade and eventually the SSD will die and when it dies all macs are bricked and will not boot from external drives if the SSD is dead m1 M2 m3 and most m4s This makes resale extremely low because it's risky to buy a used Mac with just 8gb 256 as it may be ready to die at anytime You can get these extremely cheap because with no upgrades and a limited non replaceable SSD it's very risky.
I wish folks would not scare-monger over SSD write-cycle lifespans. At the very low-end of durability, a 1 TB multi-bit NAND can endure about 100 TB of writes. Now, for any really heavy duty multi-media production engineer, that may not sound like much. But for the typical purchaser of a base-level 8 GB ram system, who is not likely to be generating such massive amounts of data, it's extremely unlikely they will be hitting that wall for a very, very, very long time. Now, 8 GB may not be enough to support all that you want to do on your system - in which case you may feel a performance hit due to too much swap. But that's a performance issue and not necessarily a wear-out-my-drive's-lifespan issue.
I keep hearing the phrase “break the bank” go around and I’ve come to the conclusion that this theoretical “ bank”really depends on each individual and their wants and needs. I included the wants in there because ultimately some people will pay more even if it’s less value for a hypothetical situation aka future proofing. I think the moral of the story is: how much are you willing to pay the Apple tax lol
Here's a timestamped summary of the 12-minute video: --- ****0:00** - **1:00**** Apple has increased the base RAM on new Macs to **16 GB**, replacing the previous 8 GB. The video raises the question: **Is 16 GB enough, or should you upgrade?** It introduces the concept of unified memory, which Apple uses to share RAM between the system and GPU dynamically. --- ****1:01** - **2:00**** Unified memory allows Macs to divide the memory pool dynamically between tasks like apps, system processes, and GPU needs. If RAM gets pushed to its limits, **swap memory** kicks in, where the system uses the SSD as backup memory. However, frequent swapping can cause **wear and tear** on the SSD over time. --- ****2:01** - **3:00**** The **16 GB base memory** is a significant improvement over the older 8 GB Macs. While refurbished 8 GB M2 Macs may seem like a bargain, the narrator advises against them, as 8 GB struggles with anything beyond basic tasks like web browsing and email. --- ****3:01** - **4:00**** Memory demands are increasing as Apple develops advanced features and apps get more complex. The narrator highlights that swap usage (due to limited RAM) can reduce SSD longevity. Choosing more RAM can avoid swap reliance and ensure better long-term performance. --- ****4:01** - **5:00**** For most users, **16 GB** is the sweet spot. The narrator discusses their own workflow, which includes tasks like video editing, research, AI tools, and scriptwriting. Even with heavy usage, **16 GB holds up well** but often pushes memory usage to 90-95%, occasionally relying on swap. --- ****5:01** - **6:00**** For demanding tasks like heavy multitasking or large files, **24 GB** is a noticeable upgrade. On the **M4 Pro MacBook** with 24 GB, performance feels “snappier,” and swap memory usage is almost eliminated. However, the narrator recommends **16 GB for lighter Macs** like the MacBook Air or Mac Mini. --- ****6:01** - **7:00**** For users who need more headroom for growth or heavy multitasking, the **24 GB default on the M4 Pro MacBook Pro** is ideal. It future-proofs performance and feels like the new standard, similar to how 16 GB was 3 years ago. --- ****7:01** - **8:00**** If you’re dealing with advanced tasks like 4K/8K video editing, **massive photo exports, or Xcode projects**, you might need more than 24 GB. Upgrading to **32 GB or 48 GB** offers significant performance improvements, but these upgrades come with steep costs. --- ****8:01** - **9:00**** The narrator emphasizes that upgrading beyond **48 GB** should only be done if you **know you need it**. For example, a **14-inch MacBook Pro with 48 GB** costs $2,400, and at that price, it’s better to upgrade to a higher-end M4 Pro model for better overall performance. --- ****9:01** - **10:00**** The **M4 Max** models offer default memory configurations up to **36 GB**. While 36 GB is great, users can upgrade to **64 GB** for an extra $200, which provides headroom for heavy workflows like simulations, gaming, and large-scale content creation. --- ****10:01** - **11:00**** The top-tier option is **128 GB RAM**, replacing the previous 96 GB limit. However, upgrading to **128 GB costs $1,000**-essentially the price of a MacBook Air. The narrator argues this is **overkill** for most users unless you’re working on Hollywood-level VFX or training AI models. --- ****11:01** - **12:00**** In conclusion, the narrator suggests picking a Mac based on the **chip** (M4 Pro, Max, etc.) and your real memory needs. Recommendations are: - **16 GB** for most users. - **24 GB** for future-proofing. - **48 GB** for heavy work. - Avoid 128 GB unless absolutely necessary. With this guide, users can make smarter choices about RAM upgrades. ---
I am undecided between two models: the 14-inch model with 32GB RAM and an M4 chip, and the 14-inch model with 48GB RAM and an M4 Pro chip. I use Xcode, Android Studio, IntelliJ IDEA, and PyCharm intensively. Which one would you recommend?
Don’t forget the higher memory bandwidth on the base Max, for me the faster 36gb seem not worse than the slower 48gb at the M4 Pro and you get a lot more gpu cores, if that matters for what you do.
Silver 14" M4 Pro MacBook Pro, 12/16, 1Tb, 48Gb, nano-texture display. 1'st new Mac, and recent iPhone for LiDAR/photogrammetry. Will use it for digital/mobile/XR/VR game dev, AI, real-time immersive web dev, and 360/stereoscopic video editing. Opted out of MAX chip for thermals, and am hoping the 14" chassis doesn't provide a similar issue, and that it does what I need it to do, well. I will know in time, either way $ saved and interested for the M4 Ultra Mac Studio.
Thanks, that's the video I was looking for. I just bought the M4 24gb, I'm heavy on multitasking and background tasks, and I want everything snappier, since I have a 16gb M1
If you normalize the RAM Upgrade prices to chunks of8 GB, it looks different the (16->24) 8Gb Upgrade of the MBA costs more as the (24->48) 24 GB Upgrade of the MBP M4Pro or even the MBP M4Max (36->128) 92 GB Upgrade =11,5*8 GBist at roughly half the upgrade price compared to the consumer devices, even like the storage upgrade prices in the first step have the Double price 256-512 Gb costs the same as 512- 1 TB delivering double the space, even worse if you consider the normalized price e.g. upgrading 4TB to 8TB which even is cheaper in the per TB price, opposite to the PC market where e.G. 8TB NVMEs are significantly more expensive as an 2 Tb or 4 TB drive in the comparison of theTB price. Same for High capacity Memory modules, entry level is cheaper than Pro Level. Combined with a designed weakness of repairability everything above the bare minimum has to be carefully considered. The only argument for the apple products is its phenominal battery live, which in all honesty shrinks to a really low amount of time if treated really hard, and is far of the 24 hours of showing a still (what the opponents do not manage). Upgrade prices consistent or even increasing to higher levels would be fair to the entry-level buyers (by far the largest group of customers) The Pros needing vast amount of RAM and/or storage would pay these prices anyway if the Upgrade from 4TB to 8Tb costs 1000$ or 2000$ wouldnt change their decision, if the upgrade from 36 to 128GB of RAM costs 1000 or 2000$ also wouldn't change their decision, because its a simple economic decision does it pay of or does it not pay off.
I saw the same in Lightroom classic and the pro wasn’t handling big panoramas, focus stacks, masks and so on. So the tasks are primarily gpu heavy. So I sendend it back and got the 14“ m4 Max base model with 36 gb and I’m very happy I did. Always green, just a few tasks were its short yellow area and very little swap, most of the time none.
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64 GB M3 Max user here. Get as much memory as you can afford to get. The peace of mind from not having to worry about memory constraints is priceless.
Same. I just picked up the 64GB M3 Max from the Apple refurbished store, and it's amazing. It is basically the same price as the M4 Pro 48GB but has double the GPU cores and 12GB more memory.
This. I got the max 64GB too, but not enough for my workloads. Hoping the M4 ultra studio comes with 256GB so I can get 128GB for a decent price 😂
I just placed an order on a macbook pro m4 pro with 24gb 1tb ssd. These is my first laptop in awhile like 20 years I didn't have a laptop. I'm trying to start to learn how to video edit and graphic design. Hope I can learn how to use a mac.
That is a kick ass system you ordered. You will love the mac. I used to use PC and then switched over to Mac and love it. The integration with the iPhone is also nice.
Good luck on your future endeavors, that sounds like an amazing machine!
64GB or even 128GB can absolutely make sense if you're running multiple Virtual Machines, and even more so if you're running local LLMs.
24GB can already handle multiple VM’s. In fact I have the 24GB m4 pro MacBook Pro and I use 2 VM’s as we speak and it works perfectly fine.
This is me... multiple teamviewers, a VM open all day, sometimes Docker, android and iOS emulators. dozens of firefox windows, outlook and Mail, itunes, Teams. Viber - basically the works. I need as much RAM as I can get. Currently doing all this on a 64GB i7 mac mini.
@@bodigamesParallels vs VMWare?
Ordered the M4 Max with 48GB of unified memory for rendering in Cinema4d using redshift and I’m very happy with it!
I initially purchased M4 Pro 12CPU/16GPU 24GB/512GB config but after spending two weeks with it, ordered M4 PRO 14CPU/20GPU 48GB/1TB.
I don't want to regret not having enough memory after 3-4 years as plan on keeping it for 5 years minimum.
not worth it , first option was good enough
Why not get the base then plan to upgrade after 3 years?
First config is an off-the-shelf config that costs $1900 at Best Buy right now. Second config is not off-the-shelf (so you can't get sales) and will costs $2800 through Apple.
That $900 difference is half the price of the lower config. That difference can widen if AppleCare comes into consideration. If we extend these two purchasing trends to a 10 year timeline:
The tendency of upgrading would cost you $5600 (2x$2800) with the possibility of trading in one 5 year old used machine.
The tendency of buying less would cost you $5700 (3x$1900) with the possibility of trading in two 3-4 year old used machines.
I'd go with the second option. You already have near price parity, but you'll get better trade-in value with newer machines (I got ~35% trade-in on my M1 Pro when I bought my M4 Pro, would maybe be 10% or 20% with an intel Mac but we'll see how used Apple silicon prices out as it ages further). Additionally you have an extra $900 in your pocket at any point in time that wouldn't have been there if you upgraded aggressively. That's potentially a big deal if an unforeseen expense hits you. Your device will also potentially be covered by AppleCare through its entire planned term of use. Lastly, you'll more frequently be on *newer* hardware, which will often matter more than being on better tier hardware from within an older generation (especially since Apple silicon is still new and rapidly iterating).
All of that said, if you're making use of that extra RAM and disk today then you're spending your money on something that has material value today, rather than the hypothetical promise that it may last you a little while longer.
@@mex5341 Couldn't agree more
@@mex5341 How can you say "not worth it"???? You don't even know his/her use case!!
If you don't mind having a Macbook Air then you don't mind having minimum RAM. But if you want performance, RAM is often more important than CPU. No point in having a super CPU if it spends all it's time waiting for data to process.
Placed an order on an 14in M4 Max, 64GB and 2TB storage. I'm a video editor with occasional light motion graphics projects so this config is enough to last me at least 5 years.
My rule if you are a developer who keeps your computer for 4-7 years is to purchase double the base amount of RAM. This rule has served me well over the past 17 years with Mac’s. Plus LLM’s may only be 4-8GB now, but they will be pushing 16GB in the coming years. You may not always have a ML based workflow with an App that uses cloud processing. For example, maybe you are a Topaz AI photo editor user, those models run locally.
SWAP wasn't invented by Apple. It's an old concept that even Linux uses.
I feel the most value for money apple laptop is to buy M4 MBP for 1700-1800$ currently. Can easily last you 6-7 yrs even more.
There is no such thing as most value for money. If you need to run several containers, UI tests, iphone simulators, machine learning, you need a lot of RAM and therefore the best value is not the 1800$ option but rather >3000$
@@KevinMerckx If you're doing machine learning, you're not doing it from a Macbook.
You must be kidding.
@@manulinuxYeah. NVIDIA A100 is knocking on the door and wants to have a deep talk with him. Heeeeey, got‘em. 😂
exactly go build a killer Windows desktop PC if you want best performance not a Apple laptop ffs
I find that 64g ram is important for me - M4 Max 4tb 64g ram, traded in M1 Max same specs. This way I don't get the spinning ball or any hesitancy while working with several big applications open, as I need to do every day. :) Get as much memory as you can afford. I have never needed 128g and I'm a real heavy user.
For the CPU
For the GPU
For the ai npu
For external monitors 4k 6k 8k
For multitasking
For media engines
Operating system.
Apps.
Etc.
I got the 128 GB through my job to run big AI models, and it still doesn't break 64 GB, so I would say 64 GB is fine for almost everyone
I’m on a 2019 MacBook Pro rn. I do music composition and audio engineering (recording, mixing, mastering). I often hit 50+GB when i have bigger sessions not even using the latest and greatest software virtual instruments, which require even more samples loaded into ram for best performance. I am wondering if i should stay with 64GB or get more since currently video memory is separate. Most projects will hit 32GB which is why i got 64, but now i’m doing bigger things at times and it gets close to it. Is 12GB enough for video if I’m running multiple monitors? My current GPU has like 8GB of vram and it struggles at times i think.
All solid advice. I have two Mac's. An M2 Max 16" MacBook Pro with 64GB RAM that I use for software development. Is it overkill? A little bit but it is two years old now (well it is next month) and has meant I've had zero worries with memory since day one and won't have any for a long time to come. I can easily push over 32GB with all of my development tools so I knew 48GB would be needed and that was two years ago so I went 64 just to future proof it a little bit and I am glad I did. My second Mac is an M3 13" MacBook Air which I bumped the RAM up to 24GB. The reason for this is while I don't do much heavy work on it (as I have the Pro for that) I like having that bit extra for when I need to do slightly heavier work on a very mobile laptop. I tend not to take my 16" Pro when I travel to clients as it is that much bigger and a bit annoying to travel with constantly so I picked up the Air to take to with me when I do client visits and have a super light laptop. The 24GB does me well as easily hit 16GB and memory pressure goes into the red but with 24GB it only sometimes goes into the yellow with swap almost never being used so it is a nice amount for my needs, plus it will hopefully give it a little bit more useful lifetime. But of course I use these two machines for work and so while they're expensive they're actually some of the cheapest investments I make in overall business costs plus they're business tax deductable so spending the extra €230 for the 24GB RAM vs the 16GB doesn't really cost me anything as I can claim it back against my businesses operating expenses. Obviously this is only possible if you're using it for work and are a registered business so not a real advantage to a consumer but if you're a consumer just buying it for personal use honestly you should probably just stick with the base models anyway unless you know your hobby personal use requires more. If you don't know how much RAM you need then just stick with the base models imho.
I feel this, 6 months ago I bought an 8gb m1 air and the ssd already lost 1/3 of its TBW
SSD swap isn’t an issue anymore
Just a very few % in 5 years
That's what they all said😮
I’m thinking about 24 and 32gb ram, but should I get the base m4 pro chip or should I just configure the base m4 chip to get 32gb of ram?
They said that about the m1 8gb ,256 SSD.
Now with ai etc and the fact you can never upgrade and eventually the SSD will die and when it dies all macs are bricked and will not boot from external drives if the SSD is dead m1 M2 m3 and most m4s
This makes resale extremely low because it's risky to buy a used Mac with just 8gb 256 as it may be ready to die at anytime
You can get these extremely cheap because with no upgrades and a limited non replaceable SSD it's very risky.
PGGB, if you upsample audio to DSS512 or DSD1024 you'll need 128, better yet 256G to do 2 channels at the same time.
I worry for the future if this is the level of education people are receiving about memory architecture in a system 😅 Still a well-produced video.
im thinking 24gb is the new 16 gb of ram
You might need it if u use a virtual machine like Windows parallel!
I wish folks would not scare-monger over SSD write-cycle lifespans. At the very low-end of durability, a 1 TB multi-bit NAND can endure about 100 TB of writes. Now, for any really heavy duty multi-media production engineer, that may not sound like much. But for the typical purchaser of a base-level 8 GB ram system, who is not likely to be generating such massive amounts of data, it's extremely unlikely they will be hitting that wall for a very, very, very long time. Now, 8 GB may not be enough to support all that you want to do on your system - in which case you may feel a performance hit due to too much swap. But that's a performance issue and not necessarily a wear-out-my-drive's-lifespan issue.
My memory pressure on M1 Pro 14 MBP is green with 32gb, I still see the odd swap but for sure more on my other half’s M2 MBA 16gb.
I keep hearing the phrase “break the bank” go around and I’ve come to the conclusion that this theoretical “ bank”really depends on each individual and their wants and needs. I included the wants in there because ultimately some people will pay more even if it’s less value for a hypothetical situation aka future proofing.
I think the moral of the story is: how much are you willing to pay the Apple tax lol
Here's a timestamped summary of the 12-minute video:
---
****0:00** - **1:00****
Apple has increased the base RAM on new Macs to **16 GB**, replacing the previous 8 GB. The video raises the question: **Is 16 GB enough, or should you upgrade?** It introduces the concept of unified memory, which Apple uses to share RAM between the system and GPU dynamically.
---
****1:01** - **2:00****
Unified memory allows Macs to divide the memory pool dynamically between tasks like apps, system processes, and GPU needs. If RAM gets pushed to its limits, **swap memory** kicks in, where the system uses the SSD as backup memory. However, frequent swapping can cause **wear and tear** on the SSD over time.
---
****2:01** - **3:00****
The **16 GB base memory** is a significant improvement over the older 8 GB Macs. While refurbished 8 GB M2 Macs may seem like a bargain, the narrator advises against them, as 8 GB struggles with anything beyond basic tasks like web browsing and email.
---
****3:01** - **4:00****
Memory demands are increasing as Apple develops advanced features and apps get more complex. The narrator highlights that swap usage (due to limited RAM) can reduce SSD longevity. Choosing more RAM can avoid swap reliance and ensure better long-term performance.
---
****4:01** - **5:00****
For most users, **16 GB** is the sweet spot. The narrator discusses their own workflow, which includes tasks like video editing, research, AI tools, and scriptwriting. Even with heavy usage, **16 GB holds up well** but often pushes memory usage to 90-95%, occasionally relying on swap.
---
****5:01** - **6:00****
For demanding tasks like heavy multitasking or large files, **24 GB** is a noticeable upgrade. On the **M4 Pro MacBook** with 24 GB, performance feels “snappier,” and swap memory usage is almost eliminated. However, the narrator recommends **16 GB for lighter Macs** like the MacBook Air or Mac Mini.
---
****6:01** - **7:00****
For users who need more headroom for growth or heavy multitasking, the **24 GB default on the M4 Pro MacBook Pro** is ideal. It future-proofs performance and feels like the new standard, similar to how 16 GB was 3 years ago.
---
****7:01** - **8:00****
If you’re dealing with advanced tasks like 4K/8K video editing, **massive photo exports, or Xcode projects**, you might need more than 24 GB. Upgrading to **32 GB or 48 GB** offers significant performance improvements, but these upgrades come with steep costs.
---
****8:01** - **9:00****
The narrator emphasizes that upgrading beyond **48 GB** should only be done if you **know you need it**. For example, a **14-inch MacBook Pro with 48 GB** costs $2,400, and at that price, it’s better to upgrade to a higher-end M4 Pro model for better overall performance.
---
****9:01** - **10:00****
The **M4 Max** models offer default memory configurations up to **36 GB**. While 36 GB is great, users can upgrade to **64 GB** for an extra $200, which provides headroom for heavy workflows like simulations, gaming, and large-scale content creation.
---
****10:01** - **11:00****
The top-tier option is **128 GB RAM**, replacing the previous 96 GB limit. However, upgrading to **128 GB costs $1,000**-essentially the price of a MacBook Air. The narrator argues this is **overkill** for most users unless you’re working on Hollywood-level VFX or training AI models.
---
****11:01** - **12:00****
In conclusion, the narrator suggests picking a Mac based on the **chip** (M4 Pro, Max, etc.) and your real memory needs. Recommendations are:
- **16 GB** for most users.
- **24 GB** for future-proofing.
- **48 GB** for heavy work.
- Avoid 128 GB unless absolutely necessary.
With this guide, users can make smarter choices about RAM upgrades.
---
291 RAM V1? Did he forget to change the title?
This is crazy, better off getting a studio Mac I guess? With that much power, you have to be a super high contracted designer or film maker…
I am undecided between two models: the 14-inch model with 32GB RAM and an M4 chip, and the 14-inch model with 48GB RAM and an M4 Pro chip. I use Xcode, Android Studio, IntelliJ IDEA, and PyCharm intensively. Which one would you recommend?
definitely 48GB
Don’t forget the higher memory bandwidth on the base Max, for me the faster 36gb seem not worse than the slower 48gb at the M4 Pro and you get a lot more gpu cores, if that matters for what you do.
Thanks for the awesome video! I wish you the best as a youtuber
Silver 14" M4 Pro MacBook Pro, 12/16, 1Tb, 48Gb, nano-texture display. 1'st new Mac, and recent iPhone for LiDAR/photogrammetry. Will use it for digital/mobile/XR/VR game dev, AI, real-time immersive web dev, and 360/stereoscopic video editing. Opted out of MAX chip for thermals, and am hoping the 14" chassis doesn't provide a similar issue, and that it does what I need it to do, well. I will know in time, either way $ saved and interested for the M4 Ultra Mac Studio.
These need touchscreen, and/or the iPad Pro needs full Mac OS.
Swap maybe is a problem 5 years in the future , so it is not and issue at all
Thanks, that's the video I was looking for. I just bought the M4 24gb, I'm heavy on multitasking and background tasks, and I want everything snappier, since I have a 16gb M1
Have you ever encountered issues with the 16GB config? Care to give a little more details? I'm considering to buy. Thanks in advance!
If you normalize the RAM Upgrade prices to chunks of8 GB, it looks different the (16->24) 8Gb Upgrade of the MBA costs more as the (24->48) 24 GB Upgrade of the MBP M4Pro or even the MBP M4Max (36->128) 92 GB Upgrade =11,5*8 GBist at roughly half the upgrade price compared to the consumer devices, even like the storage upgrade prices in the first step have the Double price 256-512 Gb costs the same as 512- 1 TB delivering double the space, even worse if you consider the normalized price e.g. upgrading 4TB to 8TB which even is cheaper in the per TB price, opposite to the PC market where e.G. 8TB NVMEs are significantly more expensive as an 2 Tb or 4 TB drive in the comparison of theTB price. Same for High capacity Memory modules, entry level is cheaper than Pro Level. Combined with a designed weakness of repairability everything above the bare minimum has to be carefully considered.
The only argument for the apple products is its phenominal battery live, which in all honesty shrinks to a really low amount of time if treated really hard, and is far of the 24 hours of showing a still (what the opponents do not manage). Upgrade prices consistent or even increasing to higher levels would be fair to the entry-level buyers (by far the largest group of customers) The Pros needing vast amount of RAM and/or storage would pay these prices anyway if the Upgrade from 4TB to 8Tb costs 1000$ or 2000$ wouldnt change their decision, if the upgrade from 36 to 128GB of RAM costs 1000 or 2000$ also wouldn't change their decision, because its a simple economic decision does it pay of or does it not pay off.
What would 200 Chrome tabs need? Nothing else actually except for an email program and a WhatsApp window.
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256 GB RAM and 256 TB SSD
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Hell man I waited so long I gave in and bought the 24. It's almost always at yellow
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I saw the same in Lightroom classic and the pro wasn’t handling big panoramas, focus stacks, masks and so on. So the tasks are primarily gpu heavy. So I sendend it back and got the 14“ m4 Max base model with 36 gb and I’m very happy I did. Always green, just a few tasks were its short yellow area and very little swap, most of the time none.
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