The Historic Mirror to Pak-Afghan Relations Ft. Salman Javed | 080 | TBT
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- Опубліковано 11 тра 2024
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In conversation with Salman Javed, this episode explores the timeline of Afghanistan Pakistan relationship and why both states did what they did? How the timeline from 1947 to 1963 affected Pakistan Afghan relations? How things git better from 1963 Tehran accord? What happened after Dawood khan came into power again in 1973? What’s Pakhtoon Zalmay? How the period from 1975 to 1979 turned the events? Was Afghan war situation being the reason Zia came into power? What was the involvement of India in all this? How and why 1980’s warlord started? Did Pakistan support Taliban’s? How the rise of Taliban affected Pakistan? Tune in to know on the events of Iran revolution, Geneva convention, Hyderabad saazish, London group, how it affected the overall ties between Pakistan and Afghanistan, Nationalism wave in Pakistan, Al-Qaeda and so much more!
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00:00 Meet Salman Javed
01:00 Afghan-Pakistan relationship from 1947 -1953
09:36 The timeline of 1953 - 1963
11:22 How things got better from 1963 Tehran accord?
14:37 History of 1973 coup
17:50 1975, Pakhtoon Zalmay and Bhutto’s investigation!
19:56 Who started violence in Pakistan?
21:57 How the period from 1975 to 1979 turned the events?
28:19 Why Pakistan took a stance it had in 1979?
31:21 Does he think Afghan situation was the reason Zia came into power?
32:26 Involvement of India in this relationship!
33:37 Nationalism wave in Pakistan from 1979!
36:50 Impact of Iran revolution on Pakistan?
38:00 Geneva convention & Pakistan
40:47 How different Afghani Mujahid, Al-Qaeda and Taliban’s are?
44:05 Did Pakistan nurtured Taliban in 1980’s?
46:36 Why & how 1980’s started warlord?
50:34 Rise of Taliban and Pakistan!
54:49 How state makes decision?
57:21 What are the things nobody told us about?
1:00:06 2001 and Al-Qaeda’s context in all this!
1:09:10 Pakistan’s involvement in Afghanistan war!
1:11:11 Taliban’s peace process!
1:13:50 If you want any references, comment down!
Books mentioned by Salman:
• 33 Strategies Of War by Salman Javed
• What We Won by Bruce Riedel
• Dekhna Khalifa Choot Na Jaye by Abdullah Azzam
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Muzamil Hassan Bhai keep doing these geo political episodes ... My Hunger Demands More.......
samee
kholja same same.
OMG this is complete different story which has been nurtured around Afghan issue and Crisis
Thank you Muzammil Bhai for the great podcast
Would like to see the guest in more podcasts
You people should check Durand line article on AfghanEye UA-cam channel then you will have clear view on this issue
Not to undermine your other guests; this guest and the Teradata guy are by far the most knowledgeable people i've ever seen.
i just have one thing to say to you Muzammil
THANK YOU
and to answer your question YES! YES i would like to see more of such content. i thoroughly enjoyed this podcast. looking forward to watching more of such informative and engaging content
Yar Muzmil you don't know how much you are helping me with this amazing. I hear your podcast most after junaid
What Muzamil is doing is beyond nominal service. The guest he invites, the talks he has, the elegance of podcasts. It's otherwarldly. Never knew I could learn this much in 75 minutes.Keep it up!
Just wow! Hands down one the best episodes yet!
Incredible interesting and captivating, as well as important history.
Would absolutely love part 2 and even an entire series!
Looking forward to the next parts!
Very apt and non rhetorical discussion. Straight facts. Pak afghan relations should be traced from 47. Cherry picking history has resulted in Victim mentality which targets PAKISTAN. Great effort Muzammil and Mr Salman Javed.
You people should check Durand line article on AfghanEye UA-cam channel then you will have clear view on this issue
The whole 1 hour and 16 minutes I was Glued to the screen, thank you muzamil bhai for this particular episode. As a student of Political science I found this podcast very helpful and knowledgeable and I can easily say that it will also help other people around the globe . Sir Salman is like an ocean of knowledge, will be waiting to See him again on This channel. Inshallah ❤️🌷
Thanks a lot. Most obliged.
You people should check Durand line article on AfghanEye UA-cam channel then you will have clear view on this issue
What a rain of history. Eagerly waiting for the whole series
You people should check Durand line article on AfghanEye UA-cam channel then you will have clear view on this issue
Amazing. he wrapped all the history in an hour. Hats off to Mr Salman
So much packed in one episode. Master class on our AF-Pak affairs. Way to go Muzamil!
Thank you so much Muzammil bhai. Last few episodes of amazing. Keep inviting people from the geo-political backgrounds.
If you please recommend us a book recovery the Pak-Afghan relations from 47 till now.
Very good initiative ....
A conversation never found on mainstream media. I never knew this detail from the very start on Pak-Afghan relations. Thanks alot guys for educating us.
Very interesting as always . Pakistanis and Afghans should watch this
thanks. I hope it serves the purpose
He was my boss in CSCR.. a true intellectual 😊
Haha. Good to see you here Humaira and thanks for the compliment. Not that intellectual though :)
Aoa. It has been an amazing talk. Literally kept me glued to the screen. Amazing MA SHA ALLAH
waooo...great inisghts...kindly invite someone who can educate us on the hidden agendas behind PTM and Baloch separatism
Bhaii koi hiden agenda neii ! Sab hamari élite, politicien n établissement ki kiya dara hai!
PTM me upper (TDF now) ne achi video banaya tha
PTM is definitely not establishment's work .... ethonationalism used for politics is utterly wrong
I realize it is kinda off topic but does anybody know of a good website to watch new tv shows online ?
@Rodrigo Van Lately I have been using FlixZone. You can find it on google =)
Kudos to Sir. Salman for coming up with this brief yet deep insight to History of Pak-Afghan relations from 1947 to present. Thanks to Muzzamil too. Kindly invite Sir. Salman again for follow-up.
You people should check Durand line article on AfghanEye UA-cam channel then you will have clear view on this issue
@@ismatullah3392 Please share the link. Thanks!
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Me
Another amazing one.
People like you and Salman Javed are clearing so many stereo types about HARD WORK. Our youth including me had a very limited and confined sense of hard work and knowledge gathering. I wish we had more people or I should say teachers like Salman Javed in our education system, we would've been able to produce much better youth. Always a pleasure watching your podcasts. Keep going.
#Inspirational
Thanks a lot Umar. Means a lot.
@@salmanjaved1712 Sir, the pleasure is all mine.
Looking forward to the next one.
You people should check Durand line article on AfghanEye UA-cam channel then you will have clear view on this issue
Very brief story. Amazing work. Got great insights
Maza ayia, i will Watch it again. the best thing to do with these 1 hour+ time
waiting for its nxt part...
comprehensive and logical side of the story...
This guy need to be in the group of Pakistans Current Strategic Thinkers , amazing guy Salman , please invite him on more series!!
awesome discussion, will eagerly wait for the next episode.
Very Interesting, please keep these sorts of discussions going
Amazing work! Great content! Really like the realistic preview he gave about Pak-afghan relations.
Love these podcasts about foreign relations and stuff. Would love to see more! Keep up the good work
Beautiful! Thank you Muzamil for this treat.
That was awesome gentlemen and much needed. Thank you.
Muzamil Bai, Its completely new perspective to hear in-terms of before 1979 and after 1979 especially about Zai ul Haq is interesting. He is regarded as villain but hearing about him like this way is new.
Strategic thinking about Iran, Saudi Arabia, USA, Russia would also be good to hear from the podcast.
Do some more of these series; the previous one with Shahid Raza was also very nice.
Such a great explanation of our history .
wow. this is amazing. great conversation
Liking before watching defines the quality of content
Cannot say enough for Salman, a true genuine speaker with clarity of thoughts. His words reflect his analysis, homework and thoughts behind words!!
My question is regarding the development of people like him, do we have nurseries or mentorship to develop think-tanks and 10 more Salman Javaids who are diverse in their ideas with enough leadership skills to understand each other’s intents?
I absolutely love your podcast's amazing stuff, Thank you for great content ❤️
Please also do a podcast on how Pakistan defeated TTP and other anti-Pak forces and the role of Pakistan in the America-Afghan War after 9/11.
Absolutely fantastic, I'm really interesting in this Geopolitics and after listening your podcast I learned more and more from Sir Salman and I want to regularly watch your videos... Thank You So Much❤️
Ohh shot!!!!!! Thats epic Sir definitely do more🖒👌
One of the best! 🖤
Awesome, keep bringing on topics like these...
immensely insightful
Truly amazing - honestly being an expat in the Far East, for over two decades I had given up on Pakistani intellectuals. But you have single handedly renewed my belief! Well done young man! I am sharing your stuff with my three young boys who are also keen to understand the historical perspective. Thanks
impressive Shukriya knowledge share krne kay lya keep it up guys 👍
Do more podcasts like this, really insightful 💛
Insightful Debate! Thank You!!!
Insightful analysis 😋 first time I enjoyed a podcast thoroughly
You are doing phenomenal work, keep it up, knowledge worth of spreading
This is the best podcast ever! loved Salmn and his knowledge ...Keep it up man
Amazing podcast, very insightful..we got to know the realities
Thankyou Muzammil Bhai..
Now please discuss next 9 points too :-D
There is a mistake in your description the book 33 strategies of war was written by Robert Greene not Salman Javed. Anyways great content. 👍
AMAZINGGGGG ... MORREE OF THIS IS NEEDED PLEASE!!
Man.. Its amazing
I hope you will continue the series.. please we need this recorded and shared for the youth
Such an insightful interview.
Muzamil bhai please call salman bhai every Saturday. Could listen to him for hourrrssss. And also can you please ask Salman bhai for book recommendations over this particular Taliban and Al-Qaeda emergence?
Amazing guys! Kindly continue this topic as you discuss you will continue it in series
Waiting for part 2
Please bring up the second part...please please please
This anchor Muzamil Hasan is plain awesome. He sounds very intelligent and well spoken. Great interviewer. The guest Salman Javed is erudite and impressive. This is one of the most interesting interviews that I had watched recently. I look forward to watching more of these.
Please continue part 2
This is so good Muzammil bhai. Please continue this series and bring Shahid bhai again to talk on Balochistan separatists and the insurgency. ✌️
What a knowledgeable conversation. Please keep it going we want to listen more about history of Pakistan.
Thanks for this podcast. Unique and something refreshing coming from Pakistan. Do you recommend any book(s) to study this topic in detail? And kindly post a list of books recommended by the guests for each podcast on related topic. That would be very helpful.
Interesting as Always
Very insightful!
These podcasts are just as good as Junaid Akrams if not better.
Keep up the good work
Pls do more shows like so being a Masters in Pakistan Studies I never got that perspective! Bravo👍
Great discussion. My first on this channel. Please bring back the guest again for follow up
This series is the best!
Just Amazing!!
It is great Brother
Absolutely brilliant
What a podcast, Muzamil bhai you are doing amazing ❤️, keep up the good work
anyhow he should be called for further podcasts 💕💕
Muzamil bhi i don’t have words for your content and its presentation 🔥🔥🔥🔥❤️❤️❤️❤️
The best podcast .
Bro plz plz plz
Invite him again
This was so insightful and knowledgeable l, please do more of these.
Thanks
Behtreeen!!!!
Please do more programs with him.
Great podcast
Surah Shoora in Quran explains diversity and differences are acceptable and welcomed in islam but divisions are not. What I can’t understand is some people supposedly spent their whole life in learning and fighting for their so called interpretation of Islam but they couldn’t understand this simple message.
Muzammil Sir you’re doing a great job, I love your podcasts, I felt so bad when you stopped doing shows on TCM originals.
I actually went back when I heard about Afrasiab Khattak that is THE AFRASIAB KHATTAK and listened to that podcast once again to see how cunning and manipulative politicians can be!!!
May the almighty Allah bless you and your family, your work is for sure bringing people together.
You should try to call someone who has opposing opinions to yourself. Right now almost everyone you call to discuss history or current affairs with is a centralist who supports Imran Khan, the Army, the martial laws and calls PTM and BLA terrorists. Try to call someone who has conflicting opinions. Preferably someone like Jibran Nasir or the guy from the Pakistan Experience.
Anyways really like your podcast.
This Is Great
Waiting for the next Episode.....
It would be very helpful if you add some pictures or clips in your podcast.... Like when you talked about writers, leaders, books & other elements, pictures could be very helpful in that manner. You can add pictures of people & book's covers into the video.Also you can make us understand better if you add word coz it's been very difficult for me to find the people or books (spellings you know 😅)....
Nice conversation keep it up,
Great Educational Conversation 👍
yooo waiting for next part
Please please do invite him again ASAP
Well explained.
Thank you ❤️....
Muzamil
25:54 they were GRU spestnaz and operation was called storm 333.
That was really amazing
great episode.
Great ....Muzamil ....plz do this type of ep more often..
Muzammil bhai!!! Make more videos on this topic with Mr Salman, especially about the events after 9/11
Brilliant!