Oh, Dante is just sorry one of his stray hands set fire to Heidi... we are all apprehensive, should we comfort Dante... or quench the flames of Heidi... I'm gonna sit down and think about it while I chuckle.
dante has been crying for years still being the forgotten hero he questions how the hero war gods knowades him when he got a skin how can it happen like it did with dare devil
@@jahrn6 If the enemy team has Jorgen, then the enemy Jorgen will outspeed your team and it will still lead to the team's demise, so that's a problem to be aware of.
Great explanation and interpretation on both heroes, both were once my main damage dealers. For mobile version k'arkh is very often countered by andvari, and keira is still the most popular damage dealer in mobile version. However, I feel like k'arkh is alot better against a twins plus jorgen team, as keira super charges opponent's energy only leading to faster death, if keira fails to kill twins before they start ulti. I'm surprised to know fox destroyed both of them, would like to learn more about the mechanics, hopefully u will include in your future vids. Anyways good work as always ^^
Great video. Bob is my damage dealer on my main account and ODH is my B team. Started a second account using Kiera as main damage dealer and Satori as B team. Having fun exploring the other heros. Thanks for the video.
50 to 100, (depending on your VIP level) K´arkh soul stones can be also collected free on daily bonus lesser hero soul stone box, every 28th of the month. Well, if you chose to pick Bob of course...
I've played both of these heroes to very high levels, but I've never once exclaimed "omg Keira is a murderer!" whereas K'arkh gets that line from me on the daily because I still cannot believe how fast he erases lives sometimes.
I think Kiera makes sense for newer players, as she is easy to get, and works well enough with almost any team. You can foccus on her early game, giving you great punch for areana, tower, campaign, outlands, and war. Hopefully once she is leveled all the way up, you have access to enough of the other options via events that happened in the meantime to build whatever team. If you have access to everyone, then it is really what style you preffer, even if it is just you think one of their skins look better, because they are on relatively even footing.
As someone with a 75K Keira, I feel I am objectively qualified to say that....Karkh is better. And it's not close. I personally think that Karkh's ultimate is mildly OP. He knocks up THREE heroes with the least health and stuns them. This will always include the best damage dealer from the other side AND at least one of the key supports. When they're stunned, they can't do ANYTHING. Most DPS comes to a grinding halt. The consequences are even worse if one or more ultimates were interrupted. In contrast, Keira's silence only stops the opponent from activating abilities. They're still attacking and dealing damage. All the while, Keira's ricochet is giving the other team energy and enabling them to ultimate the moment that silence is up. In fact, she's doing that the whole time, so it''s effectively a handicap in favor of the opposing team. Keira's a great hero and I use her to great effect. That said, I get absolutely destroyed by Karkh teams that only invest up to 55K in their Karkh (Asta/QM/Keira/Celeste/Martha - 60K Asta with max armor skin and 75K Keira). I'm sure the dynamic changes once everyone is level 130, but below level 130 you need to invest a LOT more into Keira before she is as effective as Karkh.
Keira teams will normally still lose to Kharkh at max level. (1) Kharkh gets charged up by Kiera ricochet and procs first, then (2) Kharkh 2nd skill will heal it back to full health by Kiera ricochet again -.-"... although it's easier to counter Kharkh with other heroes (esp Andavari...)
Everyone has a counter. A 75k Keira isn't even noteworthy in my server... a lars/krista combo works great on karkh/faceless teams. I can beat most karkh teams with them, or I can use Andy/Keira/Dorian/Peppy/Helios. If you're keira is up around 93k try her out in the tank position with dorian feeding her vampirism. She'll build energy and restore health incredibly quickly. The same can be done with karkh
9:00 I take it this list was made before Corvus and Morgana where added to the game seeing as Corvus goes great with Keira, really opens her abilities up a lot earlier then normal. On a new server I used a team of level 54 Corvus, Azaroth, Keira, Celest, and Martha to beat level 70 campaign stuff without letting a single hero die... yes I know that running 2 tanks and effectively 2 healers since I leave Celest in light mode to do that level 70 fights isn't good for end game stuff, but Corvus is too squishy by himself to tank things 16 levels above him but he enables Keira to do massive damage way earlier then she should.
i think that might have been a bit of a nerdy joke. been playing for a while now and there aren't that many Fox team out there, she is more a hero for a special use-case.
Having watched your videos, I have to say that neither is better than the other. Every hero in the game offers something. While some are more powerful, I would have to say that its the team that truly makes the difference. A single hero cannot make nor break a team, though that little witch who keeps putting everyone to sleep may change my mind on that one. Every tool has its own role, and it is up to the player to figure out their own build to victory. That being said, I am sticking with Keira in my main team.
Thanks Charlie. Another great video with amazing information. The deciding factors for me was building the K’arkh team was easier and K’arkh’s defensive skills. Good to know that they are very similar in terms of damage. However now that I’ve been using K’arkh with Faceless I think he does much more damage because he smashes the opponents that Faceless lifts as well.
Karkh does kill Keira problem is Karkh takes time to do real damage and in auto there's also a ring involved with faceless copying the wrong skill. Keira team usually wins by killing Karkh back line and this damage happens right away with each auto attack. I see people with weak faceless or nebula and they just dies to Keira before Karkh can even ult for the first time. If you don't have weak nebula or faceless and they stayed alive until your Karkh ult and since faceless is also getting hit often it will follow up another Karkh ult this usually kill Keira instantly and then that's it gg. It takes more investment into Karkh team to withstand Keira which allows weaker backline because Karkh team deals almost no damage until Karkh can ult and unless Karkh can ult there's no significant aoe to kill Keira backline. So most people will max out Keira first as their backline by default will live longer than Karkh backline even if they are weaker. For Karkh to counter Keira you can't afford to have weak backline. This is also the most common reason why people with Karkh team thinking they can cheap out on Faceless or Nebula as they don't really deal damage to get blown up by Karkh. Also even if your Karkh gets to ult there's also a rng factor as it hits 3 lowest life enemies which 1 will always be the tank which does very little and if 2nd lands on Martha she can take the hit just fine and if your knockup rng didn't hit Keira you are dead whereas Keira always hit all 5 of your guys regardless and with Martha ult up she attacks all your guys faster than once per second. Get it? Invest on your backline or use Kai or other stun hero to slow her down. Keira team can get away half ass backline vs Karkh but Karkh can't have half ass backline vs Keira.
@@railshot888 Rlly great answer so just asking a little question u said it's much about kahrks backline and the double throw in the air doesn't andvari negates this whole thing on Mobile?
I think its worth stating that Ziri's ultimate will stop Kiera's ultimate from hitting the entire team as it will hit ZirI and bounce back away from the team. This is really only something you can do in a controlled (non-auto) fight to keep Kiera's damage more managed.
So happy for this vid, thank you. It's clearly an open discussion but touches on many of the worries I'm having right now (as I started building Keira from the begging). The discussions in the comments are very enlightening, so also thanks for the community you built!
Karkh was my first 6* back in February, only started playing in November though the Christmas events gave me lots of scrolls, Nebula is next for the six stars though the Martha event helped me get her to 6* most recently.
Keira ALLLLL DAY!! Just kidding, it comes down to whether u have a fast hitting team versus a synergy team. I use them both in grand arena and both are extremely effective.
I have Keira and have levelled her carefully. This tells me that K'arkh isn't much of an upgrade, if it is at all and that the hero who appears most on the screen above, Nebula, should be my priority.
Great video bro. Loved it, since I've got not many khark on my server so don't face him much but these days the one that's giving my kiera team trouble are trio of Maya nebula n jorgan.
@@shine9001 yes try it. It's not best team but with nebula buff Maya is really a pain n with jorgan energy damping it's a pain. Now In guild war we don't face maxout team n since Maya jorgan easy to get 6 star this team has come up as defence team in guild war, Which is hard to beat. That pure dmg from Maya is crazy. For full team it goes as astaroth/galahad Maya nebula jorgan Martha with oliver
In 3rd team Dorian stands in the back so I don't think that Keira gets the vampirisim aura. Recently I've tried Astaroth QM Keira Celeste Nebula and I got to say it's a strong team. Appareantly, when Nebula's in the back she buffs the 4th and the 3rd hero so Keira still gets her benefits. I would like to hear your thoughts on this team? Is this team better than Astaroth QM Keira Nebula Dorian?
I can't decide who to chose, so I put both in my team :D Asaroth, K'arkh, Keira, Faceless, Martha and it is pretty good too. Keira hits few times all enemy, then K'arkh use his ult and kill enemy dmg dealers. So You don't even need Faceless. You can switch him for, Jorgen, Sebastian or Nebula.
hey Charlie who would you swap in to counter the same kahrk team you are using when you use youre own kahrk team? and is it worth it building fox to counter keira and kahrk? thx for youre help ;)
How can you purchase K'arkh in the guild war shop oO? I'm also playing on facebook, but I only can get his souls stones in the elemental tournament shop, why is that ? I'm playing in gold league, so I got quite enough silver coins.
What about having both of them in the same offensive team? For exemple with astaroth martha and dorian for exemple? My karkh is very low so wondering if he could be the 5th hero in my team
I think tbh I like Keira more because of you can get her next to Dorian then each time Keira auto attacks her blue ability and Dorian’s purple ability make her a monster, also Keira imo just has a really cool aesthetic in my opinion and I used to use her in my alt
Can u see a team with both damage dealers like a asaroth Keira Bob nebula Martha team or any version with both heros. Just curious It seems like double the fire power.
I was looking at the teams you showed at 9.08 and the very bottom Keira team, I have every hero except Nebula and I'm not at the point where I can get Nebula or K'arkh. What do you think about using Markus instead of Nebula?
You posted almost the same team just changing tank for Galahad on Keira + Jet team. One very strong is: Astaroth / Keira / Nebula / Lars / Martha Both of KARKH and Keira teams seem to need Nebula. The strongest Bob team is replacing Nebula for Jorgen.
i started at the end of this past halloween event ive been wasting resources left and right on all the heroes i encounter i decided to level 15 heroes at once for grand arena. team one : Faceless - Kai - Celeste - Khark - Astaroth team two: Martha - Orion - Cornelius - Jorgen - Ziri Team three:Thea(to be replaces once i make Jet stronger) - Fox - Nebula - Keira - Galahad
Hey Charlie! Love the videos, they are very helpful! I wonder if you would be able to do an update to this video for mobile now that Sebastian is easier to get? I like them both but since you get Keira a little easier (until you get in a silver league) I have more resources invested in her.
Fox blinds the frontlines, and for a decently long time at that. She can really cause troubles for both Keira and K'arkh, though that's situational. Keira and K'arkh can still destroy Fox if they time their attacks correctly, especially K'arkh due to tendrils targeting the lowest HP opponents, and Fox has the lowest HP pool in the game.
Good video, the silver trophies are a paint to get.. because you need silver guild, and even then, the problem is that if another , more powerful guild comes to the server, they can shift guilds arround very easily. --
Karkh can be gotten at the end of the week by participating in the Tournament of the Elements. Not hard to gain them and the end result is your Titans get better in the process. That is definitely a benefit in my book.
karkh only got 2 skins for now, keira is already one skin ahead... the on paper part u mention is just 1 skin away from being equal... so what matters is which hero u prefer :-)
What do you think about using both Keira and K’hark at the same moment in a team? Would that be a good idea? I’m saying it because I like to attack and destroy my opponents quickly
I'm interested to know this as well if they are effective in the same team, my Bob is still a work in progress atm - but which other hero's could these 2 work well with please?
something like : Astaroth, K'arkh, Kiera, Nebula with Orion of Faceless?...any good?...my Bob is too little to really try this setup yet...any synergy with those hero's together or is it too unbalanced?
I think Keira wins. I have been using Keira as she is now my main heroine and kicks the butt over many of the other teams. Her downside is she is relatively fragile and can die easily. However, leveling her is extremely much easier than Karkh in any way shape or form and is mor expensive to level Karkh. I am team Keira
Keira is superior to K'arkh, i'll tell you why. K'arkh is ''better'' erlier on, but that is all he is when comparing with Keira. Keira is better in long term and just overall. K'arkh is good too tho, he is more ''noob'' friendly. As you said in the video, K'arkh is easier to synergize with other heroes. You dont need to ''think'' so much or be super creative when using K'arkh, witch is good for newer players and the majority of the player base. But he is also pretty much dependent on synergy or els he isnt that good. First of all Keira dosnt have any HARD counters like K'arkh does, witch is very important and you will start to notice when climbing the ladder. You can counter Keira too, but not as easaly. If you use eather K'arkh or Keira, they are probably your main damage hero. Therefor the hero you have spent the most resourcers on ''probebly''. You want to be abel to use that hero as much as you possibly can. You can do that alot better with Keira by just switching out the heroes around her, mainly cuz she uses all four of her abilities for damage. K'arkh it a different story. His main source of damage comes from only 1 ability (Deadly Tendrils) and if you counter that, K'arkh become useless, and if K'arkh is useless, so is half your team pretty much. Main reason why Keira is superior to K'arkh is because she allows for much more creativety. There abilitties says it all, Keira use 4, K'arkh use 1,5. To clairify thats 2,5 more abilities that benefit the damage and can be synergized with other heroes. (FB ONLY) Keira is also better in adventures sens she is more ''reliable'. You can also use her against bosses. While K'arkh can be hard countered and is useless against bosses. If you are one of many K'arkh players that use him against bosses in adventures, just stop it! you can switch him out for any other damage dealer with half his power and still do more damage. Or even better, Cornelius. Keep the good videos coming dude! Much love
I think Kiera is better than Kath in terms of heroes who can negate their skills. From the perspective of Satori, he can take advantage of Karth bonus energy but cannot do the same to Kiera
update kark is now easy to take down thanks to the new hero lol unless you got helios to save the day pretty funny seeing yasmine getting lazer to death
If I have a karkh that's only 2 stars and everyone around him I already have close to 5 star, would it be okay ? Or would karkh have to be up in stars as well?
It depends on where you are in the game. If that is your main team, then go for it. If you are still building his team up and he's more of a secondary character, then I would wait until you can reach around 4 stars with him. Keira is the easier starter since she has safer positioning and isn't as reliant on boosting phys attack at first to get her damage, instead focusing on getting armor penetration to get most of her damage. Just my opinion
@@tonylynn8695 my current team is abs star martha, QM, astaroth, jorgen , and a 5 star Keira... the team seems to be doing fine but I am sure it could be better. Currently working on getting nebula and Sebastian up in levels, and almost going to get jet from the soul shop. Ideas?
@@jihad94elite i would stick with Keira then until you get Neb to 6 star. She's such a powerful support and can work on either Keira or K'arkh team so you can't waste resources by powering her up.
I've been playing with Astaroth, Keira Jet Seb. and Martha in tower and Dungeon and it is VERY strong even with Jet at 3 stars and Seb at 5 stars. The other three are ultimate starred. I also have a strong Kark'k as well and with Faceless and Kai I find him very good too.
Kiera can defeat Karhk with Andi on her team, Karhk can defeat Kiera with Corvus on his team, Its actually spectacular to see Andi & Keira vs Corvus and Karhk, If ya got Dorian with Kiera she could possibly live through Corvus but its very 50/50 it seems...
I loved that you showed a bunch of different teams in that one shot. Please do that more often. It's so helpful
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Been a big fan of Keira since I started. Was hyped to hear she's so good and dumped resources into her. Can confirm she's a monster
I really appreciated seeing a grouping of the "meta" option teams for each hero all in one place. This really helps as we plan GA teams.
if you listen closely somewhere Dante is crying in a corner
Covering his face with all four hands... 😁
While Markus hugs him in ghost form. 😂
I mean the dude has 4 fukn hands and only 1 weapon!!! Really? 😁
Oh, Dante is just sorry one of his stray hands set fire to Heidi... we are all apprehensive, should we comfort Dante... or quench the flames of Heidi... I'm gonna sit down and think about it while I chuckle.
dante has been crying for years still being the forgotten hero he questions how the hero war gods knowades him when he got a skin how can it happen like it did with dare devil
I really liked your shot with all the different champions on different teams. Helps me figure out which characters to build up.
You forgot to mention that keira’s biggest downside is that she charges the enemy team energy so quickly
You are right - but that is what Jorgen is for...
@@jahrn6 If the enemy team has Jorgen, then the enemy Jorgen will outspeed your team and it will still lead to the team's demise, so that's a problem to be aware of.
Great explanation and interpretation on both heroes, both were once my main damage dealers. For mobile version k'arkh is very often countered by andvari, and keira is still the most popular damage dealer in mobile version. However, I feel like k'arkh is alot better against a twins plus jorgen team, as keira super charges opponent's energy only leading to faster death, if keira fails to kill twins before they start ulti. I'm surprised to know fox destroyed both of them, would like to learn more about the mechanics, hopefully u will include in your future vids. Anyways good work as always ^^
Great video. Bob is my damage dealer on my main account and ODH is my B team. Started a second account using Kiera as main damage dealer and Satori as B team. Having fun exploring the other heros. Thanks for the video.
thanks! nice additional information being added to my understanding with Kh'arkh and Kiera.
50 to 100, (depending on your VIP level) K´arkh soul stones can be also collected free on daily bonus lesser hero soul stone box, every 28th of the month. Well, if you chose to pick Bob of course...
yes, in the long run the soul-stones are not a limiting factor.
I did the game all wrong for a couple months. *facepalm* I'm slowly getting better watching your vids, man. Thank you.
Very good analysis Charlie. This is best video in the recent times.
Thx for your video. I just started playing on mobile for a month and found your videos really helpful.
I've played both of these heroes to very high levels, but I've never once exclaimed "omg Keira is a murderer!" whereas K'arkh gets that line from me on the daily because I still cannot believe how fast he erases lives sometimes.
I think Kiera makes sense for newer players, as she is easy to get, and works well enough with almost any team. You can foccus on her early game, giving you great punch for areana, tower, campaign, outlands, and war. Hopefully once she is leveled all the way up, you have access to enough of the other options via events that happened in the meantime to build whatever team. If you have access to everyone, then it is really what style you preffer, even if it is just you think one of their skins look better, because they are on relatively even footing.
Keep it up homie. Everyone is kicking my ass now... 😁 😂
As someone with a 75K Keira, I feel I am objectively qualified to say that....Karkh is better. And it's not close.
I personally think that Karkh's ultimate is mildly OP. He knocks up THREE heroes with the least health and stuns them. This will always include the best damage dealer from the other side AND at least one of the key supports. When they're stunned, they can't do ANYTHING. Most DPS comes to a grinding halt. The consequences are even worse if one or more ultimates were interrupted.
In contrast, Keira's silence only stops the opponent from activating abilities. They're still attacking and dealing damage. All the while, Keira's ricochet is giving the other team energy and enabling them to ultimate the moment that silence is up. In fact, she's doing that the whole time, so it''s effectively a handicap in favor of the opposing team.
Keira's a great hero and I use her to great effect. That said, I get absolutely destroyed by Karkh teams that only invest up to 55K in their Karkh (Asta/QM/Keira/Celeste/Martha - 60K Asta with max armor skin and 75K Keira). I'm sure the dynamic changes once everyone is level 130, but below level 130 you need to invest a LOT more into Keira before she is as effective as Karkh.
Keira teams will normally still lose to Kharkh at max level. (1) Kharkh gets charged up by Kiera ricochet and procs first, then (2) Kharkh 2nd skill will heal it back to full health by Kiera ricochet again -.-"... although it's easier to counter Kharkh with other heroes (esp Andavari...)
Everyone has a counter. A 75k Keira isn't even noteworthy in my server... a lars/krista combo works great on karkh/faceless teams. I can beat most karkh teams with them, or I can use Andy/Keira/Dorian/Peppy/Helios. If you're keira is up around 93k try her out in the tank position with dorian feeding her vampirism. She'll build energy and restore health incredibly quickly. The same can be done with karkh
9:00 I take it this list was made before Corvus and Morgana where added to the game seeing as Corvus goes great with Keira, really opens her abilities up a lot earlier then normal. On a new server I used a team of level 54 Corvus, Azaroth, Keira, Celest, and Martha to beat level 70 campaign stuff without letting a single hero die... yes I know that running 2 tanks and effectively 2 healers since I leave Celest in light mode to do that level 70 fights isn't good for end game stuff, but Corvus is too squishy by himself to tank things 16 levels above him but he enables Keira to do massive damage way earlier then she should.
Very interested to know why Fox destroys both? Is this based solely on stand alone skill or with Fox in the right team combo?
i think that might have been a bit of a nerdy joke.
been playing for a while now and there aren't that many Fox team out there, she is more a hero for a special use-case.
Having watched your videos, I have to say that neither is better than the other. Every hero in the game offers something. While some are more powerful, I would have to say that its the team that truly makes the difference. A single hero cannot make nor break a team, though that little witch who keeps putting everyone to sleep may change my mind on that one. Every tool has its own role, and it is up to the player to figure out their own build to victory. That being said, I am sticking with Keira in my main team.
Thanks Charlie. Another great video with amazing information. The deciding factors for me was building the K’arkh team was easier and K’arkh’s defensive skills. Good to know that they are very similar in terms of damage. However now that I’ve been using K’arkh with Faceless I think he does much more damage because he smashes the opponents that Faceless lifts as well.
Would be cool to know that K'arkh-combo that beats nearly every Keira-combos. Can somebody help?
Put K'arkh with Kai and some other stun heroes
Karkh does kill Keira problem is Karkh takes time to do real damage and in auto there's also a ring involved with faceless copying the wrong skill.
Keira team usually wins by killing Karkh back line and this damage happens right away with each auto attack.
I see people with weak faceless or nebula and they just dies to Keira before Karkh can even ult for the first time.
If you don't have weak nebula or faceless and they stayed alive until your Karkh ult and since faceless is also getting hit often it will follow up another Karkh ult this usually kill Keira instantly and then that's it gg.
It takes more investment into Karkh team to withstand Keira which allows weaker backline because Karkh team deals almost no damage until Karkh can ult and unless Karkh can ult there's no significant aoe to kill Keira backline.
So most people will max out Keira first as their backline by default will live longer than Karkh backline even if they are weaker.
For Karkh to counter Keira you can't afford to have weak backline. This is also the most common reason why people with Karkh team thinking they can cheap out on Faceless or Nebula as they don't really deal damage to get blown up by Karkh.
Also even if your Karkh gets to ult there's also a rng factor as it hits 3 lowest life enemies which 1 will always be the tank which does very little and if 2nd lands on Martha she can take the hit just fine and if your knockup rng didn't hit Keira you are dead whereas Keira always hit all 5 of your guys regardless and with Martha ult up she attacks all your guys faster than once per second.
Get it?
Invest on your backline or use Kai or other stun hero to slow her down. Keira team can get away half ass backline vs Karkh but Karkh can't have half ass backline vs Keira.
Oh thanks. What a great answer. I got Kai and since I'm level 130 Keira teams aren't impossile anymore. You both were right :)
@@railshot888 Rlly great answer so just asking a little question u said it's much about kahrks backline and the double throw in the air doesn't andvari negates this whole thing on Mobile?
@@railshot888 Excellent explanation, thank you
FB/Web Stats:
K'arkh
Health: 194772
Physical attack: 67020
Magic attack: 7716
Armor: 22542
Magic defense: 5063
Armor penetration: 34600
Keira
Health: 245677
Physical attack: 73188
Magic attack: 7374
Armor: 21967
Magic defense: 6537
Armor penetration: 36595
Thanks for the Video. I can't decide between the two. I'm enjoying both play styles on different servers.
I really appreciate this info, Charlie. Keep up the good work.
in this video I learned that nebula is a must have
How can I get the Keira winter skin?
I think its worth stating that Ziri's ultimate will stop Kiera's ultimate from hitting the entire team as it will hit ZirI and bounce back away from the team. This is really only something you can do in a controlled (non-auto) fight to keep Kiera's damage more managed.
I like and am building Keira. Using my scrolls for Nebula at the moment. Maybe i will get Kark'H somewhere down the line.
So happy for this vid, thank you. It's clearly an open discussion but touches on many of the worries I'm having right now (as I started building Keira from the begging). The discussions in the comments are very enlightening, so also thanks for the community you built!
Would adding jhu to a Kiera team weaken it or make it more beast?
My favorite team now: Astaroth - Yasmine - Keira - Celeste - Orion. They are fast and kill the enemy before the enemy's energy starts ;)
Good information as usual. Agree Kiera is easier to get and cheaper to level up than K’arkh
You forgot Jhu, he’s up there too
Karkh was my first 6* back in February, only started playing in November though the Christmas events gave me lots of scrolls, Nebula is next for the six stars though the Martha event helped me get her to 6* most recently.
I put my root beer in a square glass. Now it's just beer
Keira ALLLLL DAY!! Just kidding, it comes down to whether u have a fast hitting team versus a synergy team. I use them both in grand arena and both are extremely effective.
Good comparison. I liked the different meta compositions
Now I have to invest in Fox.
I have Keira and have levelled her carefully. This tells me that K'arkh isn't much of an upgrade, if it is at all and that the hero who appears most on the screen above, Nebula, should be my priority.
I really love this video and it was the most help for me to date thank you so much
Great video bro. Loved it, since I've got not many khark on my server so don't face him much but these days the one that's giving my kiera team trouble are trio of Maya nebula n jorgan.
Maya nebula n jorgan???????
@@shine9001 yes try it. It's not best team but with nebula buff Maya is really a pain n with jorgan energy damping it's a pain. Now In guild war we don't face maxout team n since Maya jorgan easy to get 6 star this team has come up as defence team in guild war, Which is hard to beat. That pure dmg from Maya is crazy. For full team it goes as astaroth/galahad Maya nebula jorgan Martha with oliver
@@itsallcooked Maya is powerful with Queen's Revenge,but it is not easy to be triggered.
In 3rd team Dorian stands in the back so I don't think that Keira gets the vampirisim aura. Recently I've tried Astaroth QM Keira Celeste Nebula and I got to say it's a strong team. Appareantly, when Nebula's in the back she buffs the 4th and the 3rd hero so Keira still gets her benefits. I would like to hear your thoughts on this team? Is this team better than Astaroth QM Keira Nebula Dorian?
Astaroth andvari/elmir/qingmao keira dorian jet
I can't decide who to chose, so I put both in my team :D Asaroth, K'arkh, Keira, Faceless, Martha and it is pretty good too. Keira hits few times all enemy, then K'arkh use his ult and kill enemy dmg dealers. So You don't even need Faceless. You can switch him for, Jorgen, Sebastian or Nebula.
hey Charlie
who would you swap in to counter the same kahrk team you are using when you use youre own kahrk team?
and is it worth it building fox to counter keira and kahrk?
thx for youre help ;)
I saw a battle when Dark Star killed Keira in three shots. BAM, BAM, BAM, game over.
For single target removal Dark Star is quite strong.
i like this video, very good comparation between K'arkh and Keira
On mobile, Sebastian is available in the heroic chest!
Which one better to choose, if you have both Keira and Karkh in the early server?? I have told that karkh is better. Your thought?
How can you purchase K'arkh in the guild war shop oO? I'm also playing on facebook, but I only can get his souls stones in the elemental tournament shop, why is that ? I'm playing in gold league, so I got quite enough silver coins.
What about having both of them in the same offensive team? For exemple with astaroth martha and dorian for exemple? My karkh is very low so wondering if he could be the 5th hero in my team
I think tbh I like Keira more because of you can get her next to Dorian then each time Keira auto attacks her blue ability and Dorian’s purple ability make her a monster, also Keira imo just has a really cool aesthetic in my opinion and I used to use her in my alt
Can u see a team with both damage dealers like a asaroth Keira Bob nebula Martha team or any version with both heros. Just curious It seems like double the fire power.
Quite a few long-time players that I ask about this comparison state that Karkh is "tankier", but I realize the stats don't show this.
I was looking at the teams you showed at 9.08 and the very bottom Keira team, I have every hero except Nebula and I'm not at the point where I can get Nebula or K'arkh. What do you think about using Markus instead of Nebula?
Nebula is used not for heals but for the damage buff she does. Of course her healing debuff skill helps a little.
@@articarcher3769 Ah ok, thank you for the information.
What are those frame differences of heroes?
Soem frames are jagged / snappy and some are even??
You posted almost the same team just changing tank for Galahad on Keira + Jet team.
One very strong is:
Astaroth / Keira / Nebula / Lars / Martha
Both of KARKH and Keira teams seem to need Nebula.
The strongest Bob team is replacing Nebula for Jorgen.
i started at the end of this past halloween event
ive been wasting resources left and right on all the heroes i encounter
i decided to level 15 heroes at once for grand arena.
team one : Faceless - Kai - Celeste - Khark - Astaroth
team two: Martha - Orion - Cornelius - Jorgen - Ziri
Team three:Thea(to be replaces once i make Jet stronger) - Fox - Nebula - Keira - Galahad
Winter Skin is not readily available now for Keira, and as other have mentioned Keira is weak against another very popular hero, Jorgan!
Hey Charlie! Love the videos, they are very helpful! I wonder if you would be able to do an update to this video for mobile now that Sebastian is easier to get? I like them both but since you get Keira a little easier (until you get in a silver league) I have more resources invested in her.
Jhu is King, forget the Rest :-D
Galahad-Andvari-Jhu-Sebastian-Nebula with Oliver
use both, no need to argue~
why does fox counter keira/kharkh... all her skills are just damage dealer/stun?
Fox blinds the frontlines, and for a decently long time at that. She can really cause troubles for both Keira and K'arkh, though that's situational. Keira and K'arkh can still destroy Fox if they time their attacks correctly, especially K'arkh due to tendrils targeting the lowest HP opponents, and Fox has the lowest HP pool in the game.
Hi. I would like that you make a video explaining about the bronze, silver and golden medals in battle guilds. Thanks for your videos.
Thanks Charlie!! Very informative!
I love Kiera but building Kaarkh team is cheaper and quicker
Good video, the silver trophies are a paint to get.. because you need silver guild, and even then, the problem is that if another , more powerful guild comes to the server, they can shift guilds arround very easily. --
Is Karkh better for a mostly F2P player then because you don’t need Sebastian/Jet for the META?
Thanks for your analysis
quing mao got the armor penetration skin just recently, are ur numbers still correct that she is "way down the list"?
Karkh can be gotten at the end of the week by participating in the Tournament of the Elements. Not hard to gain them and the end result is your Titans get better in the process. That is definitely a benefit in my book.
There is a fact: both of them are awesome
karkh only got 2 skins for now, keira is already one skin ahead... the on paper part u mention is just 1 skin away from being equal... so what matters is which hero u prefer :-)
Thanks for the video. Great info!
I use K'arkh as my main for one acct. And Keira as my main for my second acct. Love them both.
What do you think about using both Keira and K’hark at the same moment in a team? Would that be a good idea? I’m saying it because I like to attack and destroy my opponents quickly
I'm interested to know this as well if they are effective in the same team, my Bob is still a work in progress atm - but which other hero's could these 2 work well with please?
something like : Astaroth, K'arkh, Kiera, Nebula with Orion of Faceless?...any good?...my Bob is too little to really try this setup yet...any synergy with those hero's together or is it too unbalanced?
One of my favorite speed teams involves both. Kiera, Kharkh, Nebula, Asteroth, Cleaver. Try it out.
Thanks for video, Charlie
I think Keira wins. I have been using Keira as she is now my main heroine and kicks the butt over many of the other teams. Her downside is she is relatively fragile and can die easily. However, leveling her is extremely much easier than Karkh in any way shape or form and is mor expensive to level Karkh. I am team Keira
On your Keira teams, I would say I think Thea may be a better choice over Martha. Keira doesn't often win long fights.
I e been building Keira. Especially since I dont have the other. I'd love to win a skin
What about using Karkh and Keira together?
Does krakh get some trouble in camp bosses
Keira is superior to K'arkh, i'll tell you why.
K'arkh is ''better'' erlier on, but that is all he is when comparing with Keira. Keira is better in long term and just overall. K'arkh is good too tho, he is more ''noob'' friendly. As you said in the video, K'arkh is easier to synergize with other heroes. You dont need to ''think'' so much or be super creative when using K'arkh, witch is good for newer players and the majority of the player base. But he is also pretty much dependent on synergy or els he isnt that good.
First of all Keira dosnt have any HARD counters like K'arkh does, witch is very important and you will start to notice when climbing the ladder. You can counter Keira too, but not as easaly.
If you use eather K'arkh or Keira, they are probably your main damage hero. Therefor the hero you have spent the most resourcers on ''probebly''. You want to be abel to use that hero as much as you possibly can.
You can do that alot better with Keira by just switching out the heroes around her, mainly cuz she uses all four of her abilities for damage.
K'arkh it a different story. His main source of damage comes from only 1 ability (Deadly Tendrils) and if you counter that, K'arkh become useless, and if K'arkh is useless, so is half your team pretty much.
Main reason why Keira is superior to K'arkh is because she allows for much more creativety. There abilitties says it all, Keira use 4, K'arkh use 1,5. To clairify thats 2,5 more abilities that benefit the damage and can be synergized with other heroes.
(FB ONLY) Keira is also better in adventures sens she is more ''reliable'. You can also use her against bosses. While K'arkh can be hard countered and is useless against bosses. If you are one of many K'arkh players that use him against bosses in adventures, just stop it! you can switch him out for any other damage dealer with half his power and still do more damage.
Or even better, Cornelius.
Keep the good videos coming dude! Much love
Keira is my Bob Team’s arch-nemesis!! Why isn’t Fox used more with Karhk for her armor penetration buff?
Because K'arkh has enough Armor Penetration thanks to his Stellar skin.
I think Kiera is better than Kath in terms of heroes who can negate their skills. From the perspective of Satori, he can take advantage of Karth bonus energy but cannot do the same to Kiera
And how about Keira + Karkh together? :)
My thoughts exactly ? Is this feasible?
update kark is now easy to take down thanks to the new hero lol unless you got helios to save the day pretty funny seeing yasmine getting lazer to death
If I have a karkh that's only 2 stars and everyone around him I already have close to 5 star, would it be okay ? Or would karkh have to be up in stars as well?
It depends on where you are in the game. If that is your main team, then go for it. If you are still building his team up and he's more of a secondary character, then I would wait until you can reach around 4 stars with him. Keira is the easier starter since she has safer positioning and isn't as reliant on boosting phys attack at first to get her damage, instead focusing on getting armor penetration to get most of her damage. Just my opinion
@@tonylynn8695 my current team is abs star martha, QM, astaroth, jorgen , and a 5 star Keira... the team seems to be doing fine but I am sure it could be better. Currently working on getting nebula and Sebastian up in levels, and almost going to get jet from the soul shop. Ideas?
@@jihad94elite i would stick with Keira then until you get Neb to 6 star. She's such a powerful support and can work on either Keira or K'arkh team so you can't waste resources by powering her up.
@@tonylynn8695 Great! I appreciate the help! I guess i would stick with my team as well until I get Jet up to level?
@@jihad94elite i would. It's a strong team capable of beating a lot of teams higher in power. Just watch out for twins!
What about Karkh vs. Satori? It seems Satori can also sub into Karkh and change from physical to magical team.
I've been playing with Astaroth, Keira Jet Seb. and Martha in tower and Dungeon and it is VERY strong even with Jet at 3 stars and Seb at 5 stars. The other three are ultimate starred. I also have a strong Kark'k as well and with Faceless and Kai I find him very good too.
Kiera can defeat Karhk with Andi on her team, Karhk can defeat Kiera with Corvus on his team, Its actually spectacular to see Andi & Keira vs Corvus and Karhk, If ya got Dorian with Kiera she could possibly live through Corvus but its very 50/50 it seems...
Next up, Judge vs Dante...who gets the least love :)
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Isn't keira and k'argh destroyed by qing mao too and not just through fox ?
Can i put both in a team?
I would argue that my Keira build is unique. Galahad, Ishmael, Keira, jet, Martha.
do you know for May event?
Keira makes big difference in game lately with good teams...
nice comparison
I like keira, he can quick burst damage to all enemies from early