The Death of Himmler - Episode 4: Himmler's Missing Brain
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- Опубліковано 1 лют 2022
- In this series' concluding episode, we investigate what happened to Himmler's remains and go on the hunt to discover his missing brain, which may still exist!
Special thanks to:
- Robert McIntosh, Curator of the Museum of Military Medicine, Mychett, Surrey.
- Sarah Lawson, Head of Queen Square Library, UCL.
- Professor Manuel Morrens, University of Antwerp.
- Professor Violette Coppens, SINAPS.
- Wellcome Institute Collection, London.
If you missed it, here's Episode 1: • The Death of Himmler -...
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I certainly speak for the masses when I say that the thoroughness and immense detail that you have included in this series is second to none. You continue to astound us, Mark. Amazing work, Sir. My hat is off to you. Cheers.
You do speak for the masses.
You don’t speak for any masses. You don’t even speak for ur moms masses.
I speak for molasses
Very well put.
@@timyo6288 Maybe he only speaks for his mama's ashes?
This is turning into some serious British 007 - Indiana Jones level historical research. Thanks
My neighbor when I was growing up was a Doctor for Nazi War Criminals during the Nuremberg trials. He would pronounce them dead and did other duties. He would tell me stories about examining the nazis and chatting with them one day and seeing them hanged the next. He lived a very interesting life and later became friends with Ronald Reagan. He was very wealthy and had many artifacts and paintings in his house including Teddy Roosevelts rifle. When he died his wife auctioned his stuff for, I assume, a hefty sum. In that auction I learned he had a Nazi generals saber that had been gifted to him, or he had stolen. Either way he was a fascinating man and lived to be in his late 90s.
A friend's uncle, U.S. Army was posted at Hitler's Berghof for awhile. In the 1970s my friend showed me a priceless stash of Nazi inscribed memorabilia, and I wondered how he had managed to ship so much stuff home. Much dinnerware, etc., all with the swastika throughout. I held a stack of Von Ribbentrop's calling cards in my hands, which simply listed his name. Often wonderered whatever became of it all. They weren't supposed to remove anything, but ... I came into a silver SS Deaths Head insignia in the '70s, which my mother promptly disposed of. You didn't dare question that generation on such issues.
When my uncle is assed away in 1994, my brother and me were ask to go through a locked foot locker he had three. The first had huge banners with Swastikas on them. The 2nd foot locker contain or German Luger’s with holsters all containing swastikas Engraved in them. German army knifes Also with swastikas. And a third one contained silverware’s was real silver it was a Engraved with swastikas. There were also plates but they had been broken probably during shipping. And a candle Aubra it was pure silver that has swastikas engraved all over it.
Rob, so what was the outcome, did you keep the stash .....?
I believe I knew the man. He was a notorious homosexual who although a solid physician, could not control his desire for cock.
@@robmcdonald928 did you keep it?
"Darling, you sat through that whole rom com with me last night, so tonight you can choose".
"Ok great, well there's this interesting documentary about Himmler's missing brain".
missync 411 ?xD
dönt remember the däy... but mönth and year ^?^
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This story just gets deeper and deeper, Extraordinary! Well done, Dr. Felton!
Can't we all just agree that Himmler is hiding out somewhere with Elvis?
@@ridethecurve55 lmao...
@@ridethecurve55 After the trauma of his daughter's 1994 marriage, it's unlikely that Elvis would choose to be in the company of evil.
If that "show himler corpse geni tal" were reverse in gender= half of the comment will be about how female treated badly
Himmler was a paid actor.
It is unbelievable to me not only that this content exists but that I can watch it for free. This is professional documentary level stuff. You're a treasure, Felton.
I had a 10 hour flight delay one time and I was able to fill all of that with Mark Felton videos. I am forever grateful.
@@JaxonSmithers😊
I absolutely agree.
missync 411 ?xD
dönt remember the däy... but mönth and year ^?^
My mother was 16 when the war ended; she lived in Peine, a town located to the east of Hannover. She commented that the British occupying forces brought instant law and order. She added that women did not have to fear being raped, because the British were there. At all times the behaved correctly. Given that information, I would surmise one of two alternatives:
1.) That Himmler was handled hastily by persons doing the best job that they could do under the circumstances;
2.) That he escaped.
i just found out about mark feltons involvement in the finding of four graves of british soldiers and this just strengthens my suspicion that dr. mark felton is actually sherlock holmes trapped in a historians body. I commend your efforts and your skills. Thanks for sharing them with all of us!
Lol
Or Himmler...
I never knew there was any kind of controversy regarding Himmler’s death before. Fascinating video and wonderfully researched!
I certainly did. One thing mark left out was that there was noticeable signs that Himmler had received a severe beating shortly before his death. These signs apparently show up on his death mask. The sergeant in the room with Himmler when he died was supposedly the man ordered to beat Himmler. No sign of any glass or poison were ever found in or near the body of Himmler.
@@jimmyavpi Yes, probably beaten to death.
@@jimmyavpi The beating to death theory was touched on in episode 3 I think.
There are photos of Himmler after his death. If you’ve ever seen anyone beaten to death the face is usually badly damaged. It’s possible I suppose that he could have been beaten in the abdomen and ruptured a spleen, liver etc. In that case he would have bled out and the copious amount of free blood in the abdomen would be obvious on postmortem.
@@Chiller01 The other alternative is damage to the occipital region of the skull. Such damage would be harder to see, wouldn't show up on the death mask, and wouldn't result in copious amounts of unexplained blood. It *would* show up on x-rays, but as said, those were not released.
Dr Felton, as an MD in the research field, it is possible that Cambridge cannot tell you the specimens belong to because they have been anonymised. That means that the records connecting a given specimen number to an actual name have been destroyed or were never provided to them in the first place. Often laboratories get specimens without any personal identification data. Samples may be labelled with origin and subject number but only the research site which interacts with the human subject has the actual name and other identification information for the subject. Only they can link the specimen to a given name and surname. Cambridge may therefore not have access to this and so it would then not be possible for them to tell us whose specimens they house.
They could test the genome, for having beady eyes and no chin. It would be a 98% probability match.
Indeed. But they were not even willing to admit that much. Which seems suspicious to me.
Do they destroy it because it violates patient doctor confidentiality? Makes me think its a vestigial practice to make cadavers easily accesible and to not have to explain where they got them but of course that is just my imagination most likely
Would there be a date the specimen was received attached to the specimen?
@@charlesvan13 I understand that this is more a joke but one would need to isolate the DNA in the first place, which is given probable preservation methods (formalin) almost impossible. And yes, I am fun at parties.
The sheer amount of information in this four part series is out of this world. It keept me listening without missing a bit, truly a great series. Hats off to you Dr. Felton.
Cheers.
There’s a finality and verification of the facts, when he verbally drags the viewer down the disposition of the investigative inquiries. (I often wonder of the staff he must supervise)
Not a doctor. Does not practice medicine.
First Rate research. The next generation will be sorry to lack such a great and thorough historian as Dr.Mark Felton. Many thanks and best wishes Doctor.
So Himmler's body was left on a parlor floor for two days in late spring, and his autopsy was also performed in the same room. Anyone else wondering just how bad that parlor smelt after all of that?
Anyone else wondering how the hell do you remove the brain the floor??
I was wondering the same thing
I don't think body starts to smell that quick.
How the hell do you remove a brain from the skull with a knife.
@@nomad9519 that's exactly what I thought.
I hope Dr Felton will still be around in 23 years time. So we can enjoy part five of this amazing piece of history.
I've put a note in my phone calendar to come back to this channel, 3rd February 2045. A Friday I believe so I'll get the beers in.
@@tb-cg6vd I might have something planned that Friday. Bummer!
@@tb-cg6vd Me too!
Don't expect to get more than a heavily redacted copy. You can go to Court over that of course! Good luck.
@@tb-cg6vd Lmfao!
I'm 41 and still feel like a youngster. The fact that this dude was around my age when he executed this gastly act with the extinction camps etc is just beyond my comprehension.
What would age have to do with that? It's not some great feat or something, like what Alexander accomplished by his age. And 41 isn't young, I hate to break it to you. It's not old, but it's not young either.
That's the first time I've ever seen a remark like that.
@@Deere55 Didnt say I was young, I just said I dont feel my age.
@@ER.5 Sorry, I don't live in fantasy land like a lot of people try to. I prefer to embrace reality.
@@Deere55 jesus dude go touch some grass
I'm 40 and was thinking the same thing
Dr. Felton, as an amateur Historian, who has read vociferously every book about the Second World War I could get my hands on, I must applaud, thank and congratulate you on your research and documentaries. A more complete documentary I've never had the privilege to read or watch.
I look forward to seeing your future works.
These events would make for a very British comedy. Would love to see someone explaining to John Cleese that they have lost Himlers Brain. “First you tell me the man is dead and then you lose his brain! What will the Russians say!”
We can always blame Basil 😉
However the Major may be back on the Sherry 😉
I think the brain was used in the movie Young Frankenstein. Abnormal.
@@mikekokomomike Abby Normal
@@mikekokomomike 👍👍👍
This reminded me of the film The Death of Stalin.
As usual, Dr. Mark Felton, blowing my brains out with knowledge!
I saw what you did there😂
Right idea, right era, wrong historical figure. 😂 😉
Hitler Concurs😁😁😁
Oh, don't! We don't need ANOTHER missing brain.
Blinded me with science.
One strange aspect of Himmler's life that is often overlooked is that, after dying at the conclusion of WWII, he went on to star as a padre in a TV series about an American army field hospital.
Which series was that? I only remember two, Hogan's Heros 1967-71 and MASH in 1980s. Unless wasn't American TV show.
@@paulhunter6742 China Beach
I cant find any source to corroborate this. How could he be in a tv show if he is dead
It was a joke
You're squirrely.
This whole series is so incredibly riveting and well-done! I'm so pleased to have discovered your channel!
Dr. Felton, this whole series is brilliantly done. As you may remember from previous episodes, I worked in federal law enforcement for over 20 years and have been commenting on my own theory much based on your research as well as others, and i must commend you on you meticulous research. You follow the very logical and thorough investigative processes that a well trained and experienced law enforcement officer would employ.
In prior episodes I have laid down my theory, and we are in agreement on a great many threads. I do believe it was Himmler who died in that front parlor. I do not believe it was suicide, which goes against Himmler's very core nature, but rather believe he was eliminated. Your additional clue that the examining Dentist, who's report was extremely thorough, does not mention the presence of any glass remains from the cyanide capsule, is very significant. Added with what the doctor, who was with him at time of death, stated he swabbed out his mouth and gave mouth to mouth resuscitation, something only a complete idiot would have done considering lethal doses of cyanide were involved, clearly indicate that the poison was delivered by another means. Most probably in food, he was given a meat sandwich and strong English or German mustard would easily conceal the taste of cyanide.
Add to that the conference conducted by the chief of Army Intelligence, which has several known intelligence officers present as well as 2 un-named, uniformed men, who were no doubt connected to British Intelligence agencies, clearly indicates that this was a cover up meeting. Himmler was killed under direct orders from someone back in Britain, now it was time to build up a plausible suicide story.
Removal of teeth, as well as the hasty burial of Himmler's unpreserveld corpse, (before anyone with any real records can examine him) virtually guaranteed that upon exhumation at a later date, something the Intelligence officers would have assumed would occur, would guarantee that his body could not be positively identified nor could his exact cause of death be ascertained from his rotting corpse. Any future inquiry would have to rely on the testimony of the intelligence officers, their enlisted subordinates, and their hand picked medical officers, to verify Himmler's cause of death. Case closed, as far as they are concerned, mission accomplished. Himmler can no longer provide damaging testimony and possibly physical evidence which linked very high ranking members of British society with the nazi party.
As military men they are sworn to defend King and country, note the order, King then country. King George VI was a much beloved monarch and having his brother, the former King Edward VIII turned Duke of Windsor, and Wallis Simpson, now the Duchess of Windsor, exposed for the nazi supporters they were and any possible plots by Himmler's SS and the former King to somehow supplant King George VI and return to the throne of a nazi collaborationist Britain, would humiliate the Crown and Britain herself. Himmler would have kept meticulous records and made sure he had them hidden safely to be used as bargaining chips. So the safest thing to do for the British government is to have Himmler removed from the equation.
As for his missing brain, that's a new mystery to work on, as you are doing. I do know that it was extremely common in that era for the brains of particularly nasty criminals, people who were deemed criminally insane, people who were known sociopaths or psychopaths, as well as those from highly intelligent individuals, to be removed and used for study. So the brain being removed really isn't that important to the case of how he died. It is however important to quell the theory that Himmler escaped Germany after the war.
Dr. Felton, I am sure that you will follow your excellent investigative skills and, if the brain still exists, get to the bottom of that mystery. Good Hunting.
everything just said here follows a logical path of deductive reasoning. makes sense
Brian Nicholas,, you Sir astound me, I am impressed with your powers of deductions! Great commentary Sir!! Thanks 🙏🏿
they mur him because they didnt want him standing up in court de bun king their concocted tale about the H """"" C
I came into this video believing the "official" story. Not anymore lol.
Thank you for pushing forward the hypothesis. I find it very interesting. I have some issues though. Firstly, how would the SS have helped some of the monarchy to try and overthrow other members of the monarchy?
Secondly, if Himmler had the information to humiliate the British, then why couldn't he share it with other surviving Nazis caught and tried at Nuremberg? Surely Himmler must have thought if something were to happen to him, then that information he has would also disappear. It would have been wiser to share that information with other surviving members of the Nazi party. Plus to stick to the information that Himmler had, then surely Hitler must have known. So my final question is why didn't Hitler use that information as propaganda during the war to cause alienation among the allies? Surely the USSR and USA would find hard to support Britain if certain members of the monarchy were Nazi sympathisers. Thank you.
Very well done Dr. Felton! As a physician, I am appalled at such apparent intelligence and medical incompetence. You are spot on by questioning whether this story is a massive screw up or something far deeper. As to why is only conjecture, but the leading theory is a cover up of the incompetent capture leading to the death. Military embarrassment? Or some I’ll designed plan.
I think there might be more to it. Testifying in open court at a war crimes trial might reveal possible negotiations Himmler had with the British government during the war. It was mentioned Himmler seemed to feel confident he had something with which he could trade, information perhaps. Churchill may have wanted him silenced for that reason. I smell a coverup here. Excellent series and research on this topic by Dr. Felton.
@@bernieschiff5919 I think your words are far closer to the truth than any other theory. Himmler, like one or two other Nazi's, could have caused some severe embarrassment to Churchill and others if they'd started talking.
It does not make sense though, even if Himmler did not commit suicide but was killed, or even if he did and the british were worried about being judged of not searching him thoroughly, there have been obvious efforts of a great scale in hiding Himmler's identity more than his manner of death. Why do this? There would have been no harm in positively identifying Himmler's body, even in the worst case scenario he was indeed killed. It is obvious that there is a completely different side to this story no one knows about not having to do with how he died but who he is. Such total noncooperation and effort to hide his identity could only imply that Himmler's body was the body of a substitute and indeed Himmler may have remained alive with the help of the British for reasons unknown or as a part of some deal. Perhaps the only reason could be that if Himmler was officially alive and was interrogated the world and especially other governments may have been curious on what he may have revealed to the British. But with him officially being dead, the british could have had a free reign of unlimited intelligence he possessed without the boundaries of sharing it with anyone since he was officially dead. And perhaps the only price Himmler may have asked for his cooperation was his freedom and a new life, something which would have been impossible if he was still alive as he would have been definitely tried at the Nuremberg Trials. Many claim the British saw more value in him being dead than alive because it was "rumored" he possessed embarrassing information but I disagree, that because of that fact he was worth to the British far more alive than dead as it was the only way of finding out what he really knew. And based on what he knew the British had total control over his life and could have executed him to their own accord if they wished since you cannot kill the same person twice.
I love the effort and detail you put into your work and also the investigative nature of this documentary, instead of revisiting a tired narrative you’re attempting to actively contribute to the retelling of history, this is by far the best history channel on UA-cam
Never ever let this be forgotten! There are no tears for these bastards.
Yet another eye opening documentary by a absolute legend. Highly appreciate these videos mark :). Keep it up.
Barricade: Are you username LadiesMan217?!
Is everything eye opening unless your sleeping
the thumbnail looks like he's on a podcast
@@EdmundLoh you get it 😂😂😂😂😂. True legend
Perhaps have the respect to spell his name with a capital first letter.
A no-brainer! This is, again, excellent information, Dr. Felton!
Ouch. But well played
So, are you hinting that the reason Himmler's brain is missing is that he never had one to begin with? Seems plausible. 🙂
I see what you did there! 😜
😜🤣💕
They laughed at Himmler's lil dick. It's so obvious he had lil man syndrome
I adore your work Dr felton it's absolutely amazing I wish I had your videos when I studied history in school and college. Can't get enough of them.
The quality and dedication you put into your videos is amazing
We've all been anxiously awaiting part 4. Thank you Mark.
I honestly don’t know how long I’ve been waiting for this episode lol.
@@JarrodFrates yes sir! Shameful not to release those documents. It's been 75 years ffs.
@@JarrodFrates Haha.
The story of Himmler's "misplaced" brain reminds me of the fate of Albert Einstein's brain which was removed shortly after his death in 1955 for scientific study. While never completely lost it did have a 60 year journey of being dissected, displaced, forgotten in storage in cider boxes, and never quite getting the cremation originally intended.
Spock it should remind you of the time an Alien named Kara took your brain to Sigma Draconis VI, to run the planet..
Maybe, McCoy damaged something when he put back your brain and that's why you don't remember :D
I believe a similar thing occurred with regard to President Kennedy's brain. Weird stuff!
@@tealc6218 I retain only the memory of hawt 60's women with miniskirts and big hair.
And JFK’s brain.
Ditto with Pierre Paul Broca's brain... Carl Sagan wrote a book surrounding it.
Mr Felton, you are the most knowledgeable WW2 historian I have ever come across. The depth of your research & narration is profound.
Love your work, man. There are only about two people on all of UA-cam that profoundly respect, from a historical perspective. You are #1.
Who’s the second?
@@kingyeb The History Guy.
Too many others can't help but let their politics creep in....
Cant believe they never took his Finger prints , that's a paramount first in any investigation but the way the British dealt with it with a still partly drunk unwell Officer is unforgivable..great vid again Dr Felton.
How common was that in 1945?
@@mynock250 Very common we even have Mussolini’s fingerprints when he was in jail in 1903, and became common in 1893 when an Argentinian police officer used them and formal systems came out not too much longer.
Of course they took his finger prints..
They know full well exactly who he was and probably have samples of every bit of soft tissue inside the guys body.
Remember the soviets have never revealed HITLERS body, never mind any of his ministerial juniors. The body they did provide for research wasn’t even male.
So of course the nation states who needed to know, knew. Just now for historians and future generations, we are deemed “not required to know” and are never informed.
But to think In reality the British and Americans didn’t have totally solid positive identification as well as confirmation he was dead, I think is a stretch. Moreover this was evidently compelling enough for the newly formed Israeli state to accept, without committing huge resources to investigate further - which in many other cases they did even till today.
In all likelihood he was indeed himler and he did indeed kill himself with cyanide as reported but this was in part as a result of inadvertent assistance by his British guards, which would be a huge embarrassment for the nation. A nation at the time in ecstasy, pride and moral victory - certainly with no appetite then for scandal or a press scrambling to publicise the nations failures throughout the preceding near decade of war. It’s not like now, how all media relishes in its criticism of any government action. Back then perhaps uniquely in history, worldwide international sentiment, from every corner of the world, was that the righteous won. The good guys succeeded in their quest against evil was the compelling narrative.
No one ultimately was ever arguing against that sentiment, not the soviets nor the “neutral” Swiss. It was simply to mutual benefit of all domestic propaganda internationally, to forward the existing narrative without question. To do any less would be seen almost as treasonous.
When you view this all under that lens, it all becomes much more logical and justifiable explanations resolve a clear sharp image of sovereign intent which otherwise appears to be a deliberate obfuscation when viewed through any different lens.
Detective homes develop fingerprinting during the Jack the ripper era 95% sure
@@gd88467 1893?
As a dentist I can only say that a man with such a status of teeth as the ones provided by Dr. Brown's dental examination records fits the description of a man with high socioeconomic status at the time. Seeing as the war went on for several years and access to proper nutrition and dental hygiene resources became increasingly difficult to obtain, this condition of dental health would have been hard to maintain going down the socioeconomic ladder, let alone for an expendable body double.
As for the pulled out teeth discovered on the later exhumed corpse, I noticed that the dental records noted gold caps and silver amalgam fillings, which would had been a financial incentive perhaps?
Gold was nice to have, but not that expensive back in the war years, as for Himmler, he would have had access to the best medical/dental treatments of the day and even towards the later years of the war.
@@oveidasinclair982 Gold is gold, it was and will be always sought after no matter how miniscule the quantity (so is silver), considering the dire economic situation after the war. It was only a logical speculation from my behalf.
Indeed, he did have access, and that was my point after analysing the dental records.
This seems to be the most logical explanation for the removed teeth. Even a small quantity of gold is very expensive and always has been throughout history.
@@oveidasinclair982 In 1940 Himmler ordered the SS to collect the gold teeth from the mouths of those killed in SS death camps. Why would Himmler do that if it wasn't very valuable.
Bingo.....owning a gold tooth of Heinrich Himmler today would fetch 10's of thousands....Elite collectors back then would possibly pay the same....any kind of Nazi Memorablia was highly sought after, just like it is today. Nobody made better clothing and trinkets than the Nazis.
Really exceptional posts. Humankind deserves clarity about many historical issues. You have done a stellar work. Unfortunately, I don’t think anybody will ever find out the truth about Himmler.
The level of detail here is just remarkable. Thanks for such scholarly work.
Dr. felton, as a person who is studying history with plans to get a PHD. in military history. You are a massive inspiration, so I thank you. You proved that it is possible to be a proper historian without the need for a big production company
Good luck with your studies!
Always amazed at your ability to research these historic events and present them so concisely! Thanks!
I'm pretty sure he has a PHD in history
He’s definitely one of the best history UA-camrs out there if not the best.
@@El-ch4lq Yeah, so he actually has a PHD and many written books!
@Jordan Myles Evans Apologist for evil.😈
@Jordan Myles Evans No.
Damn, we don't deserve Dr. Felton's amazing dedication and research!
I'd go insane spending over a year contacting institute after institute to only have dead ends and non-committal answers. Hats off to you Dr. Felton!
A beautifully put together series. Thanks Mr. Felton for sharing.
One interesting aspect of death masks is they often contain small samples of the subject's hair. As a result, an experienced researcher might be able to recover DNA from the existing death mask.
There may well be strong incentives from higher powers to NOT identify the DNA. If it turns out it wasn't Himmler, that leads to far too many awkward questions. I'm sure the British Government are quite happy for the identity to remain mysterious so the claim that it was Himmler can be maintained. Attempting to positively identify the remains is a dangerous path, which is no doubt why no one has tried.
@@woopimagpie makes sense. British government can collect Dna and prove its himmler, no benefit to them. Turns out it’s not him, shitshow ensues. Nothing to gain by them doing that.
The hair wouldn't be in the casts (the "positive") but in the originally applicated plaster (the "negative") though...
A.f.a.i.k.: only the casts exist nowadays.
If you want to preserve the (possible) lie that it was Himmler that died, you simply have the DNA test rigged to say it was him. Face it, that's not impossible.
@@mikekokomomike A DNA test would be only considered to be a 'test worthwhile', if there was a traceable chain of custody for the DNA-sample itself, that allows said test to be repeated in another lab. Otherwise it is just a measure of laboratory employment, not actual testing.
Finally!
This series has been better than most Hollywood movies! I'd love to see more like them. Thanks for the hard work!
It would name a great pop-up book for kids! "Here you go ladies, look at the funny dead Nazi's wiener!"
Fascinating. Important work you have done to preserve this history.
I agree, excellent research and the depth and thoroughness are truly top notch. Thank you for this interesting mystery.
Dr. Felton, the amount of research, grit and determination that you put into this video is well appreciated. Good work my good man, good work!
Man, I wish UA-cam had been a thing when I was in school. While I excelled in history of WW1/2. Your stories would've been a viable tool in my studies. Not to mention a complete swerve from the cookie cutter book reports we had in those days. Keep up the amazing work!!
What a fascinating course of events surrounding Himmers death, yes it certainly does pose more questions than answers. Like all your other videos rich in very detailed information and one learns more about the Second World War and events in it.
The "Ole' Timey" dramatic notes at the end was a nice touch.
His brain is probably in a storage jar in dusty store room somewhere. Many years ago i did some work in a london hospital that was have an old research wing demolished; in one room were shelves full with hundreds of jars with all sorts of body parts in them. There was even a babies skull that had been kept for some unknown reason. All the jars and other items had fading identification numbers written on them; any records of who they were from having long been lost. On asking why they were kept i was told no one had the authority to dispose of them, that process requiring more than tipping them into a skip.
I do think that Himmler's brain, if it still exists, is probably in an anonymous jar gathering dust in a locked storeroom much like the ones in that now demolished London hospital wing .
"...in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying 'Beware of the Leopard'".
In a dusty jar labeled "Abby Normal" ;-)
I worked many years in a museum and I was thinking the same thing. All sorts of things end up stored and forgotten, even inaccessible. Nobody throws anything away, especially body parts.
Australia doctors and British doctors removed leg bones and other body parts from still borne babies and young infants ,to be sent back to blighty for study on the effects of the Marlinga atomic test’s and associated atomic experiments using Australian’s as lab rats. You may well have stumbled across lost/ stolen body parts associated with a dirty part of Australia’s government wanting to still be a part of the commonwealth.
As it’s been established that the holding house was pretty incompetently run I imagine it’s also a strong possibility that the teeth were pulled at some point as macabre souvenirs or in an amateurish attempt to save them from the grave for future examination then disposed of in the intermediate period.
The previous three episodes on the death of Himmler were outstanding; this one is extraordinarily outstanding.
Would love some of the theories on how this may not be himmler. Because the various oddities seem too much not to suggest some type of ploy.
Himmler had exuberant levels of swag
Remarkable, extraordinary research and detail. Historical works to be proud of.
Today, we are always thinking about PTSD, Post Trauma Stress Disorder. I have to suspect that in May of 1945, just about everyone dealing with these matters in real time was very stressed, traumatized and prone to making bad decisions. The weirdness of this story flips me out, just hearing it.
These videos have always been outstanding, but this is the first time I as a viewer have felt like I’m part of a vital historical investigation. Thanks for all you do to clarify the historical record
No doubt once the files concerning this mystery are declassified in a couple decades time, we will all be back here for the big scoop
Your dilligence in the pursuit of knowledge from yesteryear is truly admirable
Just listened to all four episodes. Awesome, fascinating story. Thank you Mark Felton.
Dr. Felton, you are by far one of the most intelligent human beings I ever had the pleasure learning from! From a grateful Yank!
So damn good!!!! Much appreciated and all of your hard work shows through in every single video you put out... Absolutely phenomenal stuff Mark and thank you again! Please continue to keep em coming sir
Mark, tanks for another mesmerizing and thought-provoking slice of history! John from Pennsylvania.
Simply fascinating, detailed, thorough and stimulating.... thank you Sir.
Gosh Dr. Felton, this video was better that going to the cinema and watching a horror show! I knew some of the details of himmler's death from my college days back in the 1960s and 70s, but this is the most detailed account I've heard to date
i will have to wait 23 years for episode 5 then! what a superb historian and narrator you are.
Wow,the detail of the removal of teeth,just jumps out as red flag. Thanks for your excellent work on such important history
What a fantastic series. Thank you Dr Felton.
From an age when to appear amateur was seen as much more preferable than professional the level of apparent shambling incompetence here seems just too much to believe. Will the mystery be solved when the papers are no longer secret? And just why, after all this time, ARE the papers still secret??
Brilliant stuff and thank you so much for your tireless efforts to uncover the truth!
Yes “history” like this is no longer contemporary, it is now history. I wonder why this is kept secret. Are there still so many (neo) Nazis? Is it because Himmler’s family members that need protection? Is it because the blundering British officers still need to be protected, or are those teeth getting worth more or even less over time. A piece of brain for €15000? Teath for €50K now maybe. How to authenticate such a claim. Hence the removal on ebay? Americans will pay anything at auction, but there needs to be proof. It is the proof that is the issue. No mention of the glass in reports is the most interesting in this story. But why would the British be in the middle of this riddle. That americans took everything home as relics i get, but not the British right? or am i off on that one.
Himmler knew where all the money, gold, treasure and information was so it doesn't stretch my imagination much to think he was allowed to dissappear for that reason. Not by the men involved here but much, much further up the food chain.
Thank you for continuously delivering this fascinating content Mark.
Excellent work, as usual, Dr. Felton.
Thank you for another informative video. Your videos are always eagerly watched by me. They are more worthy than those found on the History channel.
I agree with you Dr. Felton that it was certainly Heinrich Himmler who died in Lunenburg that day in 1945. My main reasoning is that if I were his double, and I were captured, I would say I was his double, no need to keep up the charade after that. You certainly offered up some new and very interesting information, as usual, and it would be interesting to know what happened to his brain, just to know.
Just when I thought the final chapter about Himmler's death was done...no! It's just the beginning. Thanks Mark! This is the best channel on UA-cam.
Without a question, hands down the best channel.
I agree. "History Buffs" IS damn fine too, but it's a totally différent thing.
Thorough, very thorough, professional and delivered in an authoritative fashion.
Excellent series. Intriguing & thought provoking. This would make a wonderful movie.
When the war ended, it is almost as if the insanity continued for years after. Even when the truth no longer would have had the impact that it would have originally. As in many of the WWII mysteries, it is unlikely that the whole truth will ever be known. Top notch investigation, on your part. If those institutions have simply chosen not to tell you, there's not much you can do. Enjoyed it.
Hi Stephen, in my view Mark highlights a goldmine of insitutions hiding the real facts.
THis is only the tip of the iceberg, we have been deceived on a massive scale, but thanks to Mark, we are allowed to form our own opinions, even if the high authorities wish to keep the deception going especially when so much is hidden and the truth is considered of no value.
This has been a fascinating series and I have thoroughly enjoyed it. Lots of open questions and doubts of official versions of events....I love it. Well done as usual, Dr. Felton.
What do you mean as usual? Not even a few videos back he has been making all kinds of false and wrong statements that could easily be avoided if he simply did better research. A museum made a statement about this too. Who knows what other info he is finding and using for these videos is straightforward false?
Thank you for this comment. Can you please enlighten us with details about the false statements?
Evidence > opinion
Kind regards
Winston
@@winstonwolfe340 what a cringey comment
An obvious cover-up...missing teeth...missing brain...body cremated.
Thank you, for going to extra mile to research this topic. Very interesting and I like many people don't always believe the story given without proof.
In The book SS 1:The Unlikely Death of Heinrich Himmler....The assistant to Himmler's Dentist states that Himmler had had a check-up 6 months before the War's end and that Himmler's teeth were in perfect condition with no fillings...She was interviewed by the author long after the War so could be mistaken or not.
Having seen all four of Mark Feltons videos on Himmler, I find myself agreeing with him that Himmler died at Luneburg in May 1945. But there are so many contradictions in the accounts of his death, and missing evidence and documentation, that it seems to me that a cover-up took place. However, I tend to follow the rule that you should never ascribe to malice what can be explained by incompetence, stupidity or ignorance. So I think it is more probable that we are looking at one of the biggest FUBARs in the whole of WW2, rather than a conspiracy of some kind.
My version is that Himmler did not die at Luneburg in May 1945. Himmler had a lot of information about secret services, together with tons of documents that was VERY valuable for other, like Brits. So very rational next step was to protect Himmler: hide him alive and force him to cooperation. And Brits didn't kill Himmler, but his doubler, instead. And they would hide Himmler for further cooperation.
I think maybe they had drugged him but inadvertently gave him an overdose. Were any legit toxicology tests done?
@@mattskustomkreations A plausible hypothesis. Have no idea if toxicology tests were performed but bear in mind that forensic science was much less advanced than today. I think there would be a high risk of contamination from the location of the death that might make any results uncertain. If there was a cover-up the results could be faked/altered anyway.
@@simonbeaird7436 Thanks. They definitely could test for cyanide, alcohol and some poisons. I’m not sure if sodium pentathol was around back then but they may have given him that or some other “truth serum” and he went into anaphylactic shock - which can and does kill people. Or the O’d him on some mixture of drugs. But severe anaphylaxis would not leave any marks with enough time gone by. Essentially it means your airways swell up in an allergic reaction and you suffocate, unless you are quickly intubated. Even then it might be difficult because people jaws are known to clich tight too. But if there was a cover up, they’re just gonna write down whatever they want. I used to do medical simulations for doctor & nurse training. One scenario happened enough times that they used it for the course: cardio patients get a dye injected into their system so the MRI or whatever they use makes the structures and blood flow of the heart show up better. Unfortunately some patients don’t find out that they are allergic to the dye until they go into anaphylactic shock on the gurney! Then it’s oh crap all hands on deck to get the guy breathing.
@@mattskustomkreations Sodium Pentothal was available for use at least in the U.S but I'm not sure in Germany, but I assume it was due to its importance in surgery or sedation. Several other Barbiturates were available & commonly used for insomnia and sedation including Sodium Amytal ( "Blue 88's") Sodium Seconal ("Reds"...which are still made since the late 30's ) and Butabarbital ("Butisol") ANY of the above mentioned Barbiturates are/were extremely easy to fatality OD on. As a matter of fact Seconal here in the U.S is used in 8+ states for physician assisted suicide or "Death with Dignity" also legal in Canada; Belgium and most famously Switzerland ( where us foreigners can travel there to use their services ). I worked in pharmacy almost 20yrs & studied the Barbiturate group of meds ( most were discontinued yrs ago due to severe abuse & high OD's by addicts & high levels of recreational use ) Some like Seconal & the much weaker Phenobarbital are still available) Pentothal is still used for very short minor procedures/ dentistry & for sedation before ECT treatments for severe depression. Himmler could have easily been given an injection of ANY of the Barbiturates above & been knocked out & unaware of anything. Very lethal in an OD and no true antidote was or is available to reverse one like an opioid OD is reversible. Hope the info helps.
This was another great video series. There’s so much about Himmlers end that I was unaware of, particularly related to how he and his corpse were handled once in British custody. Removal of the teeth and hiding the body from the Soviets especially, as well as the medical officer in charges complete omission of Himmler at all. I still think Himmler died on that day in 1945, but some of the actions taken after that suggest there is a lot we may never have answers for.
He was probably beaten to death
Don't forget that the Russians did not share Hitler's body with anyone else.
Ace electric company you do know that hitlers body was burned to ashes?
@@Hadrada. we can only hope so. I hope the beating lasted for a week. Even that is better than he deserved
@@johnmorrison9758 hopfully the likes of of Boris whitty and Hancock get the same treatment maybe a extra few days for Blair
There is one thing that I find intriguing. Himmler's death mask. The look on his face in death is one of peace, almost as if he has been freed from a life that was like a prison.
I actually noticed that as well
A simple comparison of basic facial features between the photos during life and the mask/cast shows few similarities. Thanks for your diligent research and excellent presentation of this series.
I just realized, after watching through these (as usual) amazing series, is that this is an actual ongoing historical investigation. Thank you for your hard labor and attention to detail. I too am skeptical of all the "Hitler/Himmler got out" stories, but you never know what evidence can come out in the end, especially in such vague and poorly handled at the time cases.
If Hitler had escaped, he would've died soon after anyway the man was basically on his death bed and I highly highly doubt someone like him would've just slinked away. I think someone just forced a cyanide pill down Himlers throat and called it suicide.
My goodness Mark, this was absolutely stunning in the details you uncovered. Very impressive. Thank you again.
Absolutely extraordinary. Superb work.
One of the best videos of it's type I've ever seen. And deeply important.
absolutely amazing series you put together here. Always a wealth of knowledge. This specific story has kept me on the edge of my seat for months.
Hey Dr. Felton! Perfect timing with this upload since I'm at work and my supervisor let's me use my earbuds while I work. You make learning about WWI, WWII, Cold War, etc so fun and easy! I've been subscribed to your amazing channel for almost 2 years now and I'm happy I've been loyal. Quality is always high and it's so magnificent to listen to WWII stories that US schooling doesn't mention. You have all my appreciation and respect, as well as my love! Have a wonderful day
Excellent work. While we’ll may never know the truth, your work certainly reminds us to pay attention to history. And our future. They are connected. Thank you.
Thank you for the series about Himmler and his death,
Here's hoping we will still be around when the 100-year secrecy act will end, to know what really happened
As some of the facts stated in the 4-part series leave some doubt & even more questions as to why certain steps were followed and other crucial steps completely ignored. For example why Himmler's body was left for 3 days in the same house.
Why would they have buried his body and the secrecy surrounding the burial site?
Why would the governing bodies deny reference to the brain and its whereabouts?
Honestly hope you find the answers.
Thank you for all your hard work (Mark Felton) and reporting on historical facts about the history of the world and specifically WW2
With regard to the release of the secret documents - I wouldn't hold your breath. UK Governments of all political persuasions have a history of simply extending the period before which documents can be released ... not having had any recourse to public scrutiny or discussion to arrive at such decisions. The 100-year period applied to these docs seems to suggest that information embarrassing to senior "important" people is being suppressed - the 100 year period generally thought to safely ensure that the persons concerned (and most direct relatives) would be safely in their graves by then and therefore beyond any kind of comment, retribution or justice.
Long stretch but maybe... he gave them information and they faked his death...
It's very common for political regimes to destroy/hide the physical remains of powerful enemies. Burial sites can easily become shrines for future dissidents, and physical remains (relics) are hot targets for theft.
They would keep the burial sight secret for the same reason jimmy savile ended up in an unmarked grave in secrecy. The grave would be an open sewer, and the body would no doubt be dug up by someone wanting to desecrate it so he can't rest in piece.
@@mary-leeb5548 Himmler was signing the papers for extrication for German soldiers when he found a photo of an exact double of himself. That soldier was forced to take the part of Himmler or the soldier's FAMILY would be killed. No choice. By now, the truth should be admitted by the British, that they had in fact, the Himmler Double. . . who had committed suicide! How embarrassing for the British, to CLAIM that they had the REAL Himmler. . . . when it was found later, to be a double!
Your research skills are unmatched. Your not just reporting history but uncovering it. Thank you 😊 💓 ☺️
This is why you are the best where else could I find such an interesting detailed video 👍
Can you imagine what his soul going through right now? Immense pain and agony for all eternity.
I am absolutely FASCINATED with himmler....I just watched downfall for the very first time , about to watch stalingrad tonight ......growing up in the south in America with my grandparents I never once heard the word Nazi or Hilter so learning about all that went on in the 40s is absolutely mind blowing....love the channel and this 4 pt episode
2:30 in defense of Himmler, the room was very cold
I have been a Mark Felton fan for a long time, and this series on Himmler is exactly why. Mark is British, and I'm sure he is proud to be British, yet he still digs for information and presents that information even though it may be at odds with the "official" government stance. In other words, he is completely unbiased and is interested only in the truth of historical events. It is any wonder I trust his presentations?
Thank you for yet another excellent quality video. 👏
Have loved this series mark. Appreciate how detailed you are in your approach and how you fairly explore all possibilities. I’m 21 now so hopefully I’ll be around when the truth comes out!
Dr. Felton, You are a truly amazing man of scientific research among other disciplines. I, and literally millions of others, are grateful to have a person of your high academic background helping to clarify and thus better understand some of the tangled mysteries of the WW2 Era. And, in addition to doing all this, you manage to make it very entertaining and at times down right Exciting! So, Kudos to You, Dr. Felton. Bravo!
Thank you for the amazing documentaries.
I’m absolutely astonished Mark I don’t know what to say.
You are brilliant simply brilliant 🙏
Churchill's 'Off the cuff' remark about Himmler when quizzed about his death was : "Well, we'd every right to bump him off' maybe he knew something we didn't?