Does the Comp work? Shooting the Smith and Wesson Metal Carry Comp Comparison - M2.0 Metal 4.25"
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- Does the Comp work? Shooting the Smith and Wesson Metal Carry Comp Comparison - M2.0 Metal 4.25"
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In this video we compare how the two pistols to see if the comp provides a noticeable difference.
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Make sure you watch the 4:45 mark. Does the Comp work? 100%. Is it a life changing difference probably not - would I upgrade for just the comp? No. Would I purchase this pistol? Absolutely.
I just received my fuse back from sig . They literally had it for 5 days and i just got it back . Have you gotten back yours yet
@@user-pz5vx8xc7n I shipped it the 12th. It's currently out for delivery.
@@averagemarksman excited for the review back fixed
@@user-pz5vx8xc7n did they say what they fixed on yours?
Thank you
Don’t forget one of the best upgrades. The chamber hole doesn’t blow the dirty gas on your optic glass anymore. It blows it forward instead. There are slow mo pictures on some website online.
The optic had lube and gun powder on the glass after the first 100 rounds…
That’s just marketing.
@@averagemarksman im just going off these photos
@@madeintexas1213 I know. I saw them. One of the complaints of the 2.0’s was debris building up on the optic. It’s not as big as a deal as people make it out to be.
I just got this 2.0 metal comp. I haven't shot it yet but i already love it and am upgrading from a 1st gen M&P 9mm full size. The Crimson Trace LG-660 from my first gen and the TLR7 light both fit perfectly on the new metal comp.
You’re going to like it. The trigger alone makes it worth that upgrade.
Here's my 2 cents. You're actually better than average. You have a good grip presentation which makes your reset fall right back into your sight picture. It's skewing your assessment.
I have converted all of my pistols except for the M&P 5.7 to comps. It does help if you're running it fast and especially if your target is moving. It helps keep your dot in the window during cycling. It reduces the muzzle climb so your slide doesn't bounce up and obscure your sight picture as much.
I have a lot of uploads of shooting the MGM Spinner at 15 yards. That top paddle is 8 inches. Bottom is 10 inches. It's way easier to double tap those paddles with a comped gun because I don't lose the dot.
With the reduced muzzle climb it's easier to transition because I don't have the slide blocking my view of the paddles during their arcs.
Thanks for your input. I’m going to go check out the videos of you shooting the spinner. I’m by no means a professional so I’m sure I’m missing a few things. Do you think the things you pointed out would be noticed by folks who do not shoot often?
@@averagemarksmanI agree with the original comment’s assessment, I think you are an experienced shooter and your technique and skills are at a level where the comp doesn’t make much of a difference. I shoot and own a lot of m&ps including the older performance center with the ported 4.25” barrel and when I compare it to my regular non ported m&ps, I don’t see much of a difference. I think when you put hotter loads in it and run it fast, there’s a slight noticeable difference, but in a self defense scenario, I highly doubt anyone will notice. Maybe in a competition scenario, the comp would be nice to have. Nonetheless, the comp carry is still a sweet gun and one I’ll probably add to my m&p collection.
Guns with porting don't really shine until you're shoot hotter or defensive loads. People go in expecting it to feel like a staccato xc and run 115gr Winchester white box.
Like and subscribe. I think that for $200 price difference between both metal guns the Comp is worth it, that’s only my opinion. Unfortunately there are not enough data and videos on the metal comp so because I don’t own any S&W firearms I would wait until there are more videos and data available on the Comp
This gun straight up sucks. I am interested to try the polymer grip, but the metal one feels worse than other guns I have with standard barrels.
Man thank you for the honest take on these things.. I think they look cool but didn't see much point to them I just ordered the hellcat pro.. non comp gear up package with 5 mags and a range bag and I think im gonna order the echelon with the extended barrel but no lie that new 2.0 looks great
In my own experience comps are more noticeable with spicier ammo. I really notice a difference when running +p through a comped versus a non-comped pistol.
100%. The majority of people will never have that experience though.
I wish they would have made this same exact version but without the comp or slide holes. I also wished they made the trigger better than they did, added an orange front sight instead of green and called the pistol a 3.0. They should have also added a front rail to the shield version. Of course they didn't do that though because they would rather keep selling us pistols with tiny upgrades instead of giving us everything we want at once. If they sell us a pistol with all of the features that we want we won't feel the need to buy their pistols in the future. It all comes down to future profits. That's why I would rather just buy the regular optics ready version and install an apex trigger kit.
At the end of the day you're one person and they have a marketing team looking into exactly what the majority of people want. A comp'd gun with tons of serrations is what the vast majority of the market demands. That's why every manufacture produced one in the first half of 2024.
@@averagemarksman I guess I don't understand the point of a comp on a carry pistol. It gives you a bigger muzzle flash at night time, it increases the sound, it gets the inside of your slide and barrel dirty. Mud, dirt and small rocks can get stuck in the holes if you accidentally drop it. That seems like a lot of negatives just to get a barely noticeable recoil difference. I guess I don't get it 🤷. It does look cool though.
Just got past 2000 rounds in my M&P 2.0 Spec Series and not a single malfunction. I love the all metals but ported barrel comp isnt going to make run out and get this, but its a cool edition to the all metal 2.0 family. If someone doesnt have one yet and wants an all metal now they just have one more to choose from. Spec series comes with Faxon Comp on it and a little blue loctite on the set screws solves the problem of them backing out
That’s a great comment for folks who are looking at the different versions. I love mine. Zero malfunctions on it through 1500+
Really great informative video, thank you. Helped me make my decision.
Thanks for watching! What’s your decision going to be?
Thinking about pulling the trigger on the carry comp
Pulled out the original 2.0 5in with the apex yesterday after all these videos. And after not shooting it for years i was kinda amazed. I think i enjoy it more than my staccato or shadow 2... both are great but that 2.0 grip is awesome and it was very flat shooting. Im thinking the metal frame and comp might make it a slightly better range toy thats not to big to carry either. Only issue with my 2.0 is the mags dont drop which i read was an issue others had as well. Thanks for doing these reviews for us!
I'm a big fan of the grip as well on the 2.0 version. You mentioned your magazines stick? Mine eject like they are being thrown. I wonder why the difference exists.
@averagemarksman I looked it up a while back and apparently there's some extra plastic in the magwell that you can file out to fix but mine looks smooth so not sure. Thought maybe it was the mag but they all stick.
Polymer framed version?
@@averagemarksman yeah
Awesome review. Training over toys.
Thanks for watching. Training over toys is concept that most won’t pay any attention too.
What is you opinion on the 2.0 carry comp vs the Walther PDP. Which has less recoil?
The walther pdp has more recoil than the other popular brands. It's the biggest flaw with the pdp. It also has a thicker slide.
Can you talk about their trigger? Are they the same or if not, how do they differ? Thanks.
@@tresbb03 I’ll sit down at the table top and discuss it. It’s a common question.
I'm looking at the Shield Plus comp carry, not sure if it's better than the standard shield plus performance center.
@@deenyc1049 the moment the local dealer has it I’ll go get it. I carry a Shield Plus and want to know first hand if it’s better.
I carry a shield everyday but I refuse to buy another one until Smith&Wesson adds a front rail. Knowing my luck I would buy the comp version then a year or 2 later the shield 3.0 with a front rail would release. Not having a front rail is a huge flaw to me. The fact that the other company's are adding rails and s&w isn't is unacceptable to me as a customer. I would rather have a rail than a comp that barely decreases recoil and makes your slide/barrel dirty. Smith&Wesson should be adding that new chamber hole to all of their m&p products because people are tired of their optics getting dirty.
What about the trigger though? Does the Performance Center fixins on the Carry Comp not have a better trigger?
I wanted to touch on that separately. The trigger is amazing.
@@averagemarksman AH! Hence the title: "Does the Comp work?" 🤦♂ Disregard my dumb question...
Thats not a dumb question. I just wanted to go over it separately so I didn't miss anything.
in my opiniom the trigger is meh but im skewed by really nice freedomsmith triggers on caniks. theres a bit of creaking / mush on take up, the wall is defined with a nice break and the reset is very muted. the first thing ill be doing to mine, and in my opinion the only thing it needs is the apex trigger kit. (my canik triggers are pretty much like a 1911 trigger with a glass break, no slack, no grit, one is 5 pound trigger and ones 2 pounds, so take my opinion as you will)
@@averagemarksman How does the trigger compare to the Apex flat trigger?
Something I haven't seen anyone address yet is that the carry comp has a stainless steel slide. The original M&P metal has an aluminum slide, and although both still have an aluminum frame, it's a plus for me.
@@vinnywatson1696 the stainless steel slide should be stronger. I assume they used it make it stronger after all they removed a ton of the material.
does Halosun SCS MP2 still direct fit on this newer version of the M&P 2.0?
I originally misread your question. Skimming to fast. Here’s the update - the SCS MP2 will fit. The optic mount on the carry comp slide is the same as the previous 2.0 models.
@@averagemarksman Thank you for the quick reply. I see that the SCS 320 uses the delta point pro footprint as you said, but I'm wondering about the SCS MP2 which was created specifically for the M&P 2.0 to be direct mounted without adaptor. I guess what I'm really asking is, has the optic foot print on the slide changed with this new M&P 2.0? Again thank you.
@@jameshall1871 I apologize for that - I’ll update the other post so it doesn’t confuse any one else.
@@averagemarksman great that’s the answer I was hoping for, appreciate it!
@@jameshall1871 you’re welcome.
The Carry Comp feels like ass. My Competitor with OEM barrel is WAY better than shooting the Carry Comp... The metal one anyways.
How do you feel about the slide serrations? They seem slippery to me.
@@averagemarksman I actually didn't notice any issues with those. I love everything about this gun except for the recoil impulse... I really wish ALL of Smiths metal guns were steel. Aluminum just seems pointless, and the recoil impulse is generally sharper, due to no added weight and losing the flex of the polymer to absorb some of the energy.