Train Facts: Speed of LNER Papyrus

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  • Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
  • Although LNER class A3 Flying Scotsman is considered one of the most famous steam locomotives of all time, it was not the fastest in its class. That title would go to number 2750, Papyrus, which reached a top speed of 108mph, thus beating Scotman's 103mph, thus making Papyrus the fastest in the world for some time.
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  • @Zombiehunter2_0
    @Zombiehunter2_0 2 роки тому +8

    Papyrus was so popular popular popular that he got an A3 named after him.

  • @randomdj9165
    @randomdj9165 3 роки тому +12

    NYEHHHH! I am Papyrus, future member of the Royal Guard!

    • @Pensyfan19
      @Pensyfan19  3 роки тому +4

      CONGRATULATIONS! You are the first person to make an Undertale reference with this locomotive! You get +5 bonus points.

    • @jokelethkurueisner9229
      @jokelethkurueisner9229 2 роки тому +1

      I thought he was Papyrus: Former Member of the LNER. 😂🤣

  • @yeoldeseawitch
    @yeoldeseawitch 2 роки тому +4

    If Papyrus survived i would've displayed it next to Sans Pareil
    for an epic joke

  • @Shark30006
    @Shark30006 Рік тому +2

    Papyrus should have been preserved alongside Flying Scotsman in 1963.

  • @Shark30006
    @Shark30006 3 місяці тому +1

    It’s sad that we have one A3 in preservation which is Flying Scotsman but it would have been better if we had nine A3s in preservation instead of just one member of the A3 class that is in preservation.
    Nine A3s that I wished to have in preservation:
    Great Northern
    Flying Scotsman
    Flying Fox
    Doncaster
    Donovan
    Flamingo
    Papyrus
    Cameronian
    Salmon Trout

  • @Nick-vr2pf
    @Nick-vr2pf 4 місяці тому +1

    I don't think it's ever widely been disputed (at least to my knowledge) by anyone who's an LNER historian/enthusiast that Flying Scotsman wasn't the fastest A3.

  • @reesochacon1448
    @reesochacon1448 8 місяців тому +1

    It should be noted that Papyrus was built as an A3 from new, and Scotsman was a Gresley A1 (later classed as A10 by Thompson) at the time of its record. Likely, one of the contributing factors to Papyrus beating Scotsman was simply because the A3s had a longer valve travel, smaller cylinders, and a higher boiler pressure. The result was a faster and more efficient locomotive.

  • @Cantthinkofanamelad
    @Cantthinkofanamelad Рік тому +2

    In my humble opinion, the Papyrus should have been preserved.

  • @Maunico0809
    @Maunico0809 3 роки тому +4

    Haha this makes the Flying Scotsman look like a joke.

    • @Pensyfan19
      @Pensyfan19  3 роки тому +4

      And yet Flying Scotsman was preserved while Papyrus was scrapped. Make you wonder...

    • @urtooslow4415
      @urtooslow4415 2 роки тому

      Same

  • @matthewradovanovic5172
    @matthewradovanovic5172 3 роки тому +3

    dont forget the prr t1, that locomotive also claimed to have reached 140mph. and we are building a new one to see if that claim was real.

    • @Pensyfan19
      @Pensyfan19  3 роки тому +1

      True, but 5550 is not part of the LNER A3 class. It's just ironic that the only locomotive faster than Flying Scotsman *in the A3 class* wasn't preserved as well.

  • @davidantoniocamposbarros7528
    @davidantoniocamposbarros7528 3 роки тому +4

    Now it all begs the question: why wasn't Papyrus preserved (or any other A3)? It's dis dis Disgraceful! Disgusting! Despicable!

    • @Lamp_2155
      @Lamp_2155 3 роки тому +3

      Probably because they weren’t as famous or Scotsman just got lucky.
      I’m pretty sure they chose Scotsman and Alan Peglar had a connection to it so he chose to buy it

    • @davidantoniocamposbarros7528
      @davidantoniocamposbarros7528 3 роки тому +2

      @@Lamp_2155 yeah that too :/

    • @Lamp_2155
      @Lamp_2155 2 роки тому

      I heard that apparently BR put a mark up on more well known locomotives and the LNER scrap yards weren’t very sparing anyway.

    • @Shark30006
      @Shark30006 Рік тому

      That’s from Gordon, James and Henry

    • @TallboyDave
      @TallboyDave 9 місяців тому

      Pretty much what others have said here; the Eastern and North-Eastern regions of BR did most of their scrapping 'in-house' at the various works; and what wasn't done in-house went to scrapyards that were very good at cutting up input in a rapid and efficient manner; Papyrus herself went to Arnott Young's scrapyard in Carmyle, close to Glasgow; she was recorded as officially scrapped about 8 months after withdrawal.

  • @knn4566
    @knn4566 3 роки тому +2

    Nice very cool train history facts and information videos you make very cool very nice video.

  • @superbaddy4
    @superbaddy4 3 роки тому +3

    Speaking of Steam Speed Records, I still think about the PRR S1, and the theories of it having went up to 156 MPH.

    • @Pensyfan19
      @Pensyfan19  3 роки тому +1

      So do I. I feel there is still a good chance that the S1 could have gone at least past 130.

    • @AVeryRandomPerson
      @AVeryRandomPerson 3 роки тому +2

      @@Pensyfan19 There are so many PRR theories and stuff out there, such as GG1s reaching 2M miles in their careers.

  • @usa0504
    @usa0504 3 роки тому +3

    Can you make a video about liner class a4 steam locomotives

    • @Pensyfan19
      @Pensyfan19  3 роки тому +2

      I tend not to focus on famous locomotives like Mallard or the NYC Hudson, but rather on engines and facts that are often overshadowed in railroading, such as a streamlined branch line railcar or the use of freight locomotives for commuter rail service.

  • @ROTE
    @ROTE 3 роки тому +3

    Cool! I love these short Train facts episodes!

    • @Pensyfan19
      @Pensyfan19  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks. Train Facts is supposed to be a monthly series which could be uploaded in the middle of the month, usually the 15th or 16th, but my mic broke for a few days and I had to get it repaired.

  • @44VR1
    @44VR1 3 роки тому +2

    I saw your post on RAILROAD.net about any hack cabosses left on long island, I assume you know of the ones on Kromer avenue Riverhead, Do you know where the one that sat at the front of the former lumber yard where the east wind shoppes in wading river is now? great video btw!

    • @Pensyfan19
      @Pensyfan19  3 роки тому +1

      The EX-MP cabooses in Riverhead have been acquired by Twin Forks NRHS and are being restored, but I'm not aware of any hack cabooses in Wading River except for C-57 at the Schieff Scout Reservation.

  • @davifariatertuliano
    @davifariatertuliano 3 роки тому +3

    Yeah I think they could have preserved this locomotive because it was one of the fastest locomotives in the world