Train Facts: Speed of LNER Papyrus
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- Although LNER class A3 Flying Scotsman is considered one of the most famous steam locomotives of all time, it was not the fastest in its class. That title would go to number 2750, Papyrus, which reached a top speed of 108mph, thus beating Scotman's 103mph, thus making Papyrus the fastest in the world for some time.
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Papyrus was so popular popular popular that he got an A3 named after him.
NYEHHHH! I am Papyrus, future member of the Royal Guard!
CONGRATULATIONS! You are the first person to make an Undertale reference with this locomotive! You get +5 bonus points.
I thought he was Papyrus: Former Member of the LNER. 😂🤣
If Papyrus survived i would've displayed it next to Sans Pareil
for an epic joke
Papyrus should have been preserved alongside Flying Scotsman in 1963.
It’s sad that we have one A3 in preservation which is Flying Scotsman but it would have been better if we had nine A3s in preservation instead of just one member of the A3 class that is in preservation.
Nine A3s that I wished to have in preservation:
Great Northern
Flying Scotsman
Flying Fox
Doncaster
Donovan
Flamingo
Papyrus
Cameronian
Salmon Trout
I don't think it's ever widely been disputed (at least to my knowledge) by anyone who's an LNER historian/enthusiast that Flying Scotsman wasn't the fastest A3.
It should be noted that Papyrus was built as an A3 from new, and Scotsman was a Gresley A1 (later classed as A10 by Thompson) at the time of its record. Likely, one of the contributing factors to Papyrus beating Scotsman was simply because the A3s had a longer valve travel, smaller cylinders, and a higher boiler pressure. The result was a faster and more efficient locomotive.
In my humble opinion, the Papyrus should have been preserved.
Haha this makes the Flying Scotsman look like a joke.
And yet Flying Scotsman was preserved while Papyrus was scrapped. Make you wonder...
Same
dont forget the prr t1, that locomotive also claimed to have reached 140mph. and we are building a new one to see if that claim was real.
True, but 5550 is not part of the LNER A3 class. It's just ironic that the only locomotive faster than Flying Scotsman *in the A3 class* wasn't preserved as well.
Now it all begs the question: why wasn't Papyrus preserved (or any other A3)? It's dis dis Disgraceful! Disgusting! Despicable!
Probably because they weren’t as famous or Scotsman just got lucky.
I’m pretty sure they chose Scotsman and Alan Peglar had a connection to it so he chose to buy it
@@Lamp_2155 yeah that too :/
I heard that apparently BR put a mark up on more well known locomotives and the LNER scrap yards weren’t very sparing anyway.
That’s from Gordon, James and Henry
Pretty much what others have said here; the Eastern and North-Eastern regions of BR did most of their scrapping 'in-house' at the various works; and what wasn't done in-house went to scrapyards that were very good at cutting up input in a rapid and efficient manner; Papyrus herself went to Arnott Young's scrapyard in Carmyle, close to Glasgow; she was recorded as officially scrapped about 8 months after withdrawal.
Nice very cool train history facts and information videos you make very cool very nice video.
Speaking of Steam Speed Records, I still think about the PRR S1, and the theories of it having went up to 156 MPH.
So do I. I feel there is still a good chance that the S1 could have gone at least past 130.
@@Pensyfan19 There are so many PRR theories and stuff out there, such as GG1s reaching 2M miles in their careers.
Can you make a video about liner class a4 steam locomotives
I tend not to focus on famous locomotives like Mallard or the NYC Hudson, but rather on engines and facts that are often overshadowed in railroading, such as a streamlined branch line railcar or the use of freight locomotives for commuter rail service.
Cool! I love these short Train facts episodes!
Thanks. Train Facts is supposed to be a monthly series which could be uploaded in the middle of the month, usually the 15th or 16th, but my mic broke for a few days and I had to get it repaired.
I saw your post on RAILROAD.net about any hack cabosses left on long island, I assume you know of the ones on Kromer avenue Riverhead, Do you know where the one that sat at the front of the former lumber yard where the east wind shoppes in wading river is now? great video btw!
The EX-MP cabooses in Riverhead have been acquired by Twin Forks NRHS and are being restored, but I'm not aware of any hack cabooses in Wading River except for C-57 at the Schieff Scout Reservation.
Yeah I think they could have preserved this locomotive because it was one of the fastest locomotives in the world