I have like a old 5 inch 2013 hdd its loud. edit: this comment was made when a while back when I really didn't know anything about hardware. It was a 3.5 hdd.
octavio lagos coil whine is a potential noise generated by inductors, due to the flow of electricity creating a pulsing electromagnetic field, which causes the component to vibrate in place, creating said coil whine
i like how almost everything you said about RISC completely false. They have a smaller instruction set, and those instructions (hopefully) execute in fewer cycles. but that doesn't make them "less general purpose", they certainly aren't "designed to run vetted apps from an app store" (that's an OS design choice that has absolutely nothing to do with the CPU architecture!), and that's not fundamentally why they're more power efficient; they're low power chips because they were designed to be low power chips. Plenty of people will argue that RISC is more conducive to low power designs, and they might be right, but that's a matter of debate, not something to be stated as fact. And, there are high power ARM chips out there. ARM is not fundamentally low power. You would've been better off just saying, "phones use specialized low-power ARM CPUs, and run apps designed to work well without a lot of computing power".
Yeah, this explanation seems imprecise at the very best, I know it is supposed to be quick and easy, but that is no excuse for it being misleading, or even wrong.
Yeah this isn’t like CPUs vs GPUs. ARM processors are general purpose processors just like x86 and anything else. RISC and CISC are antiquated concepts at best, but really it’s just a bunch of marketing BS from the 80s that we should walk away from forever. Linus &co., sorry, but you really missed the research on this one.
@@dillogdall1 yeah, right? like, i don't mind people glossing over technical details, in fact I appreciate the honesty of that approach. But just, making shit up? that really bothers me. I think it's because so much of UA-cam is all about faking it till you make it, people forget that they can't-- (looks at subscriber count) ...ok, *shouldn't* do that with facts.
@@kristiansims Are you saying ARM isn't really RISC anymore due to all the instruction set extensions that have been added over the years? or are you just saying it just doesn't really matter from the perspective Linus is talking from? RISC and CISC are definitely distinct approaches to computing. The differences don't matter all that much to end users or high-level software developers, but they definitely matter for people who write compilers and interpreters, or anyone writing heavily-optimized low-level code.
@@mbahmarijan789 An really huge security issue mostly on intel cpus that got leaked a while ago. The problems cause was related to the cpus architecture and their very fundamental way of processing things or some similar stuff. Not really something you can fix. There were patches but they often drastically reduced the cpu performance. This security issue was called Meltdown and another one specter. Meltdown. The same thing your cpu does when it overheats -> gets slower because of thermal throtteling.
Actually my pc for some reason sounds really loud when i turn it on, but then stabilizes and the only thing i hear is the 3TB 7200 rpm HDD i bought about a year ago to replace my 1 TB seagate.
@@manuelmunguia616 Sounds like a fan is wearing out. When a fan starts up it has to overcome more resistance, but once it's going it doesn't have to work as hard. It's a very common problem with non-computer fans that require oiling such as bathroom and AC fans.
Who wrote this script? I had to pause two minutes in, this is extreme levels of misinformation. RISC can do anything CISC can, but the CISC can generally do it in fewer cycles thanks to a wider variety of more specialized instructions on-board.
c99kfm Precisely... This is probably the most uninformed explanation between RISC and CISC. @Linus: Really would appreciate that you pick up a Computer Architecture textbook to understand between these 2 general form of instruction sets design philosophy, or perhaps seek the advice of a Computer Scientist for better understanding on RISC vs CISC. In fact @Linus, ask the other Linus. You know who I am referring to. He will probably give you a real explanation of what is RISC and what is CISC.
@@xnamkcor No, RISC is, as Linus says, Reduced Instruction Set. Though a 386 could be said to be quite RISC in comparison to a 9900K, the 386 itself would still be considered a CISC (Complex Instruction Set). x86 is a very complex architecture, comparatively, even when compared to other CISC parts. It started large and have mostly maintained backwards compatibility while including ever more things. For instance, modern 64-bit CPUs, x86-64, are still x86-compatible, since they can run in 32-bit mode. A few instruction sets have been dropped, as time moves on - of note is the 3DNow set, which was present in AMD CPUs for a time but has since been removed. Some older games, like Mass Effect, which only check if your CPU is an AMD, will have visual artifacts in some places as a result. 3DNow, itself, consists of 26 instructions, which was a small part of then-current x86 CPUs. Current models have over 1500 instructions. ARMv7, a common RISC architecture, consists of 34 instructions, as a comparison. Edit: Nice, visual listing of various instructions of x86 (which should demonstrate why it's more Complex than Reduced): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86_instruction_listings
@@xnamkcorYes you are right. Internally, modern X86 CPUs use RISC cores and translate the X86 instructions to (if necessary multiple) instructions for the RISC core. This is done so that Features like Pipelines and Branch prediction (that speed up programm execution) can be implemented easily. On the other hand, the added translation logic adds complexity and power draw, which is why X86 CPUs are not as power-efficient and cheap as say ARM. So externally they behave like CISC cores and keep compatibility to the X86 instruction set, internally they use RISC
“The roar of you computer’s or laptop’s fan” You clearly have never met my mom’s Windows 10 I can barely ever hear it when I visit her (She does work that is kind of demanding on the computer, so the fan would be heard)
I don't know about others but I really like it when I am running after effects or doing rendering or doing heavy work and my laptop fans start like a jet engine and throw out hot air. *I find it just tooo satisfying*
Remember, 40 db is still bearable In fact 50 db is like your average quiet office So don't sacrifices cooling performance just to buy most "quiet" fans, "most quiet fan" just set rotate at low speed like 1000 rpm to get below 20 db which is not cool. The tip Buy fan with high quality bearing, and have high air pressure
i am not as irritated too, in fact i dont get why a lot of people are bothered because they want the ultimate silent build, i just put on my headphones and i even forget there are fan noises
The lesson is to overbuild your heatsink cooling so that you ALMOST don't need fans, but then use low rpm fans anyway, which also can also mask some coil whine. Also, 0rpm @ idle and low-medium load is great for videocards, PSUs, and laptops. And don't forget smooth ramp up curves and fan hysteresis!
I looked into this for years and just opted for the largest heat sink tower, settling on a Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO at the time, and used 2 fans with it and it's the most quiet PC I've EVER had. Didn't even need to draw out any cooling profiles either. Just have enough space to fit the largest CPU heat sink, fans and you can keep the fan speed slow AND quiet.
I had a zenfone 2... The last ever intel phone. Damn it was fast and hot for its time. But the support for x86 was terrible which made the phone hella ineffecient and sipped power instantly
Some people build a fanless PC not because they can't tolerate fan noise, but keep their PC dust free because there is no airflow (except natural air convection)
Throw in a silent case like the Define R5/R6 and set up a custom fan curve on your motherboard and suddenly the loudest part of your setup is the gentle hum from a spinning hard drive.
I find the sound of a soft, low fan to be quite soothing. My old computer (10 yrs ago) was a bit noisy, but it was all low-humming fans. I liked to just stick my head into the side of the case to listen to them running every so often.
I imagine a desktop setup designed to dissipate the heat and designed with openable compartmentd above key points (above the hard drive graphics card etc) where you can insert chilled dry gel ice packs. Moisture could be controlled by placing the icepacks into sealable plastic bags before putting them in the compartments, and making the compartments thick enough to prevent condensation but still provide direct cooling. Depending on the size of the gel pack, you could cool your rig for a significant period of time before having to replace a pack. It would be a thing of rig building beauty.
I lived with one of these in my bedroom for a month. One time my friend remotely rebooted it while I was sleeping and it woke me up. The 14k sas hdd were loud as fuck also.
that is _not_ what makes RISC CPUs different that CISC CPUs, there are desktop RISC CPUs and the CPU in your smart phone is capable of _any_ task (albeit at a slower speed) your desktop CPU can do
There are plenty of fanless laptops out there by the way, with low power Celeron or Y series intel x86 CPUs. I got one of the former for 220$, Peaq Slim 130s; it stutters a bit with too many tabs open, but for light loads it works perfectly without huge heatsinks. It dissipates just like a tablet.
Remember when RISC was a desktop and workstation technology, sometimes with giant heat sinks? Good times. (PA-RISC, Alpha, PowerPC, Power platform, SPARC…)
Rubber fan mounts will reduce most noise transferred to the metal casing. Virtually every cpu uses RISC these days, even desktop varieties. Complex instructions are split into risc-type micro-ops. Power reduction is typically achieved by short bursts of sleep cycles.
I made a fanless media PC a while back by stripping down an old laptop, putting it in a new custom case, and replacing the old fans with a giant copper heatsink. Got the idea from some DIY channel, it works and looks great though.
There are also a few computer cases that ARE the heatsink. They include the ability to tool them into your CPU and GPU, so the heat dissipates all through the case.
Sebastian is wrong about RISC. It's about managing thermals/power usage by throttling and power savings. Smart phones also have a lot less memory bandwidth. Modern x64 CPUs are basically RISC inside, just with a CISC frontend. The frontend itself is also used for many kinds of optimizations, so in reality it doesn't cost much power.
That a processor is RISC processor doesn't mean that it doesn't need active cooling, for example the PowerPC architecture are a RISC instruction set and they need substantial cooling. Furthermore, most CISC processors today are RISC processors emulating a CISC instructionset, this is because many CISC instructions are doing almost the same thing with just minor variations. In fact the first thing your x86 cpu does is break down the complex CISC instruction in to several simpler RISC instructions which allows it to more efficiently utilize the hardware and enables things like out of order execution and hyper threading.
0:24 Talking about jet engines on your desk, does anyone remember the stock cooler that came with AMD FX processors? 70mm cooler going 6000 rpm everytime you opened a youtube video. You could hear that thing from 2 rooms away xD
RISC: simpler instructions, each of which takes only one cpu cycle, and which operate register to register only (memory load/store are separate instructions, needing their own cycle) CISC: more complex instructions that often take multiple cpu cycles and operate memory-to-memory thus including load/store Most RISC CPU's these days have actually MORE instructions than equivalent CISC processors. This explanation may be 20 years old - but it's still pretty good: cs.stanford.edu/people/eroberts/courses/soco/projects/2000-01/risc/risccisc/
RISC is just as general purpose as CISC. It is simply more efficient in certain tasks than CISC, and less efficient in other tasks. By definition, any computer that is Turing-complete can do all tasks that any other Turing-complete computer can, if hypothetically given unlimited RAM and computing time.
Given the trend towards ARM and other advances It's inevitable even high-end PC CPU's and GPU's won't need fans anymore, and our children and grandchildren will laugh at the huge monstrous case designs, fans and heatsinks we used to have to install back in the stone ages.
@@mihirpatil8843 really? *Looks at the millions of apps on Google Play, various Linux distros for ARM, Windows 10 IoT (ok that last one is more of a hobbyist OS but still...)
@@mihirpatil8843 I mean solution for future.. For now, of course it's not stable yet... Apple going to launch ARM based mac book next year,,, that sounds and answer to me... Microsoft also working on it
I've never, ever, found fans in computers to be noisy unless they're actually failing. It baffles me how noise is actually an important buying factor for so many people. I'm running an i9 9900k @ 5.1GHz on AIR COOLING via Le Grand Macho RT. It's sitting right next to me in a massive Thermaltake X71 case filled to the brim with fans (it's possibly the largest consumer grade PC case on the market for less than $200 and it completely dwarfs my other rig's HAF 932). I honestly can barely hear it right now (and my hearing is very good). When I'm playing a demanding game, my EVGA GTX 1080ti superclocked black edition will ramp up a little bit and I can hear it but only if I mute the game itself. Noise level is a HYPED QUALITY that no one genuinely cares about. If your PC is noisy that means you have a fan that is failing or a really, really shitty set of fans that are working normally.
Given the correct OS, a RISC processor is as general purpose as an x86 or ia64. For example the only reason there is no full microsoft office for windows 8 or 10 for (ARM)tablets is because Microsoft did not bother releasing, developing or compiling office for RISC processors. You see libre-office and openoffice both have full functionality version for RISC processors for several RISC OSes. Just remember PowerPC and SPARC processor architectures are also RISC based.
Thing that Linus said about RISC is very strange. The fact that most of our phones use RISC doesn't mean that much. With RISC you can easily build a system with exactly the same functionality in high-level (in a customer's view), and the reason why phones have RISC and PC's CISC (even though there's no explicit distinction between them nowadays) ISA is mainly historical. If you'll make RISC computer, no one would buy it because there's simply no soft written on it.
Do you remember that the original Macintosh models were fan less. I remember there was even a hood/chimney you could buy to attach to the top to help with convection cooling for those who worried there wasn’t enough air movement by itself. I owned two different models that were fan less classic Macs and they never needed any additional cooling systems other than natural convection cooling. Silence is bliss 😁
Are you FUCKING STUPID? What you put on you WATER COOLING RADIATORS? (fans afcourse). And as Linus said, you can have NO fans with air cooling. Just buy Noctua NH-D15 and use the fans on very low speed, and you won't hear the fans AT ALL. :)
RISC = power efficient is kind of inaccurate, though. IBM's POWER and PowerPC are RISC ISAs as well, and yet the CPUs that implement it aren't necessarily power efficient. Hell, power efficiency is why Apple went to Intel in 2006.
Put the fans in another room and route ducts to the back of the pc. Can’t hear the fans, still get the cooling. They do that in chemistry labs with fume hoods.
It's microbore technology where everything is made smaller so the heat distribution is lessened, where you have a desktop that has more power it's going to have more heat
I live in Sweden so i just open the window
Eyy I live in Sweden to
Hahha sant
Is it because it’s cold over there or what?
Haha vårat kalla Sverige 😂😂😂
Och amd kort är perfekt rum värmare lol
Don’t you worried about condensation?
If a fanless PC means "silent" to you, clearly you haven't met my hard drive.
😂
I have like a old 5 inch 2013 hdd its loud.
edit: this comment was made when a while back when I really didn't know anything about hardware. It was a 3.5 hdd.
@@lilpup1414 let me introduce mine, 2010 hhd jet engine x2
@Minecraft TV hopefully upgrading to NVME
remember playing games on CD_ROMs in you optical drive?
Kinda like noisy fans myself.........drowns out all the complaining that I spend too much time on the computer.
Morgan facts
Exactly!
Gamers rise up
Nobody:
My Mum: GET OFF THAT COMPUTER
My Computer: mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
I like pizza.
People with mechanical keyboards complaining about fan noise.
that's funny.
because fan noise is always desirable for the user
I like the sound of mechanical keyboards
I have headphones on so its dampened but to my family members ehh
ALIAS I have the press to speak thing and I barely use it😳
Linus if he built a computer without fans
The computer: **Sweats Nervously**
Lmao
Hahahah
And can't cool because it has no fans
And nobody likes the video because it had no fans....
lol litterely *spelling*
I actually like fan noise. It makes me feel like it has more power
I know what you mean but I don’t have a pc
I dont think opening minecraft and hearing reeeeeeeeeee is vesy good
@@williamattina9475 Running ray-tracing with max settings, my fans better be revving
Your comment literally made me laugh out loud.
"White noise!"
Everyone after they make a fanless computer: "Finally, my computer won't have any noise!"
[Coil whine]: "Allow us to introduce ourselves..."
What is that?
octavio lagos coil whine is a potential noise generated by inductors, due to the flow of electricity creating a pulsing electromagnetic field, which causes the component to vibrate in place, creating said coil whine
@@Nova-du5on Ohh, is that buzzing you hear on a cheap phone charger?
@@octimus2000 And PSU's/GPU's etc.
@@octimus2000 its that noise your Power company transformers do next to the road,if you live in Greece or other third world country.
0:30 This mad lad just said "inevitable" and snapped his fingers in the space of 5 seconds.
:0
What
@@austematicthatragic4352 thanos
Thannys
I don't feel so good
My PC is like: Hey neighbours, this PC is running!
lol
@@Aniceghost I have to have it like this, because it would else overheat
@@DarmiGames yup
What pc ya got?
@@eduard6582 dont ask. ask me (:
"...jet engine..."
*shows APU exhaust*
Good job editor.
It still is a gas turbine
Lmao
@@whyers4782 ikr
Editors should’ve showed a PS4 pro
@@0w3nn talking off 🤣🤣🤣
i like how almost everything you said about RISC completely false. They have a smaller instruction set, and those instructions (hopefully) execute in fewer cycles. but that doesn't make them "less general purpose", they certainly aren't "designed to run vetted apps from an app store" (that's an OS design choice that has absolutely nothing to do with the CPU architecture!), and that's not fundamentally why they're more power efficient; they're low power chips because they were designed to be low power chips. Plenty of people will argue that RISC is more conducive to low power designs, and they might be right, but that's a matter of debate, not something to be stated as fact. And, there are high power ARM chips out there. ARM is not fundamentally low power.
You would've been better off just saying, "phones use specialized low-power ARM CPUs, and run apps designed to work well without a lot of computing power".
Yeah, this explanation seems imprecise at the very best, I know it is supposed to be quick and easy, but that is no excuse for it being misleading, or even wrong.
Yeah this isn’t like CPUs vs GPUs. ARM processors are general purpose processors just like x86 and anything else. RISC and CISC are antiquated concepts at best, but really it’s just a bunch of marketing BS from the 80s that we should walk away from forever.
Linus &co., sorry, but you really missed the research on this one.
@@dillogdall1 yeah, right? like, i don't mind people glossing over technical details, in fact I appreciate the honesty of that approach. But just, making shit up? that really bothers me. I think it's because so much of UA-cam is all about faking it till you make it, people forget that they can't-- (looks at subscriber count) ...ok, *shouldn't* do that with facts.
@@kristiansims Are you saying ARM isn't really RISC anymore due to all the instruction set extensions that have been added over the years? or are you just saying it just doesn't really matter from the perspective Linus is talking from?
RISC and CISC are definitely distinct approaches to computing. The differences don't matter all that much to end users or high-level software developers, but they definitely matter for people who write compilers and interpreters, or anyone writing heavily-optimized low-level code.
The obvious counter-example here is Amazon's Graviton 2, they'll let you run anything on it. Windows 10 also has ARM builds these days.
And he doesn't mention his own setup that gets rid of fan noise entirely...just put the PC in another room.
@Shadoww Nemesis01 just have it go along the walls
Yooo I did that
liquit cooling
@Shadoww Nemesis01 the cable goes through the wall
@Shadoww Nemesis01 put it in the walls
The answer: *MELTDOWN*
???
Specter
POWER... MELTDOWN...
That’s a great song!
@@mbahmarijan789 An really huge security issue mostly on intel cpus that got leaked a while ago. The problems cause was related to the cpus architecture and their very fundamental way of processing things or some similar stuff. Not really something you can fix. There were patches but they often drastically reduced the cpu performance.
This security issue was called Meltdown and another one specter.
Meltdown. The same thing your cpu does when it overheats -> gets slower because of thermal throtteling.
As someone with tinnitus the fan noise is honestly soothing af. In fact I cant fall asleep quickly unless I have a small fan near my head going off...
My friend once said "I don't need a CPU cooler, I have 2 fans already."
Atleast tell me you corrected your friend. There's no reason for innocent hardware to be destroyed.
@@dreamshooter90 natural selection, my friend.
Anyone else seeing n replies under comments?
@@dreamshooter90 a cpu with no cooler will not even boot...
@@MrCrazybadbastard It will boot but crash after couple of seconds or minutes after the cpu reach over 100c.
mean while the single fan in my laptop is challenging my HDD on who can be the loudest...
Linus: "phones don't have fans"
Me, with my Red Magic 3: "hmmmmmmmmm"
lilmurf000 hmm
hows the phone
Yessssssss
I want to get one
me with my RedMagic 5G: bruh cringe
I actually like the sound of desktop fans, not so much laptop fans under stress.
Same as old HDDs, gives me a feeling of nostalgia
1:43 i loved commander keen so much!!!
2:58 "Fans are widely used because they are cheap." Is that why you're showing off those $30 Corsair Light Loops?
"Like a jet taking off" - aaaah. Fond memories of my Palit GTX 470... Pretty sure that PC was a skirt away from being a hovercraft.
*PC flies south for the winter*
My PS4 when i do anything
Actually my pc for some reason sounds really loud when i turn it on, but then stabilizes and the only thing i hear is the 3TB 7200 rpm HDD i bought about a year ago to replace my 1 TB seagate.
@@manuelmunguia616 Sounds like a fan is wearing out. When a fan starts up it has to overcome more resistance, but once it's going it doesn't have to work as hard. It's a very common problem with non-computer fans that require oiling such as bathroom and AC fans.
@@manuelmunguia616 PWM case fans??? those usually ramp up at max upon boot then stabilizes back to its fan speed profile..
"Fans are widely used because they're cheap"
Shows off the Corsair LL140's...
Who wrote this script? I had to pause two minutes in, this is extreme levels of misinformation. RISC can do anything CISC can, but the CISC can generally do it in fewer cycles thanks to a wider variety of more specialized instructions on-board.
Yup, normally a fan of this channel, but this is some grade a nonsense
c99kfm Precisely... This is probably the most uninformed explanation between RISC and CISC.
@Linus: Really would appreciate that you pick up a Computer Architecture textbook to understand between these 2 general form of instruction sets design philosophy, or perhaps seek the advice of a Computer Scientist for better understanding on RISC vs CISC.
In fact @Linus, ask the other Linus. You know who I am referring to. He will probably give you a real explanation of what is RISC and what is CISC.
Aren't almost all x86 CPUs technically RISC?
@@xnamkcor No, RISC is, as Linus says, Reduced Instruction Set. Though a 386 could be said to be quite RISC in comparison to a 9900K, the 386 itself would still be considered a CISC (Complex Instruction Set).
x86 is a very complex architecture, comparatively, even when compared to other CISC parts. It started large and have mostly maintained backwards compatibility while including ever more things. For instance, modern 64-bit CPUs, x86-64, are still x86-compatible, since they can run in 32-bit mode. A few instruction sets have been dropped, as time moves on - of note is the 3DNow set, which was present in AMD CPUs for a time but has since been removed. Some older games, like Mass Effect, which only check if your CPU is an AMD, will have visual artifacts in some places as a result.
3DNow, itself, consists of 26 instructions, which was a small part of then-current x86 CPUs. Current models have over 1500 instructions.
ARMv7, a common RISC architecture, consists of 34 instructions, as a comparison.
Edit: Nice, visual listing of various instructions of x86 (which should demonstrate why it's more Complex than Reduced):
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86_instruction_listings
@@xnamkcorYes you are right. Internally, modern X86 CPUs use RISC cores and translate the X86 instructions to (if necessary multiple) instructions for the RISC core. This is done so that Features like Pipelines and Branch prediction (that speed up programm execution) can be implemented easily. On the other hand, the added translation logic adds complexity and power draw, which is why X86 CPUs are not as power-efficient and cheap as say ARM. So externally they behave like CISC cores and keep compatibility to the X86 instruction set, internally they use RISC
“The roar of you computer’s or laptop’s fan”
You clearly have never met my mom’s Windows 10
I can barely ever hear it when I visit her (She does work that is kind of demanding on the computer, so the fan would be heard)
Why the fuck are you referring it as a Windows 10 dipshit?
200iq
Prob just runs PowerPoint
bruh clean it
@@jackzilla9331 it's like that one 'M1 vs latest pc laptop chip' chart. b what is the latest pc laptop chip?
When you phone isn't cooled its called RISC, if you do it with your gaming PC it's called RISK
Mrwantastic
No, then it’s called ARM, advanced RISC.
@@vufberlick3697 hey ever heard of a joke
@@vufberlick3697 ARM is an architecture which follows the RISC design philosophy. You're being overly pedantic.
It's CISC, Complex Instruction Set Computing
Mariocdi Why can’t their comment also be a joke?
"if you've got a heavy load" *does my turning my computer on count*
ItsRandxm your fans are full of dust
@@Vacated204 mine aren't and it makes noise anyway
Linus: "Kind of like this segue to our sponsor"
Me: Let me stop you right there
You can see him cringe internally when he says it
Linus hates and love the sponsors, just like he loves and hates himself.
"So anyways, i started >>>10 seconds"
Nothing beats the Tech Tips fans
I'll check this out, it seems pretty _cool._ I'm definitely a _fan._
Sike.
lol
then you must be bit _noisy_ , always moving, and sometimes _glowing_ ?
@@sabayonz lol nice one
i’m so _cool_ i could _spin_ around and not get dizzy
I don't know about others but I really like it when I am running after effects or doing rendering or doing heavy work and my laptop fans start like a jet engine and throw out hot air. *I find it just tooo satisfying*
0:50 Nintendo Switch: Am I a joke to you?!
Claro1993 The Nintendo Switch has a fan
@@firatcan that's the point, he is saying that the switch is technically an android tablet
0:50 ps4 slim: am I a joke to you
@@mevoogle it doesn't use android lmao
@@Kwuaks the ps4 slim does have a fan lmao
Linus: "Sports Ball Game"......just further proof that Linus and the boys play Quidditch.
Hahaha, nice one.
Lol nice
Astro Kitty really wow
I'm pretty sure he said "sportsball game", which sadly is something I can see him meaning to say. 🤣
HARRY POTTER NERDS WHERE WE AT?
Remember, 40 db is still bearable
In fact 50 db is like your average quiet office
So don't sacrifices cooling performance just to buy most "quiet" fans,
"most quiet fan" just set rotate at low speed like 1000 rpm to get below 20 db which is not cool.
The tip
Buy fan with high quality bearing, and have high air pressure
I personally love the sounds of fans. makes me feel like my computer is more powerful than it is and needs all that cooling
John Doe lel same
i am not as irritated too, in fact i dont get why a lot of people are bothered because they want the ultimate silent build, i just put on my headphones and i even forget there are fan noises
Manu sameeeee headphones gg plus fans sounds cool like a sign of power 😂😂
That's why I love the fat ps3 lol
Rookii lmao
The lesson is to overbuild your heatsink cooling so that you ALMOST don't need fans, but then use low rpm fans anyway, which also can also mask some coil whine. Also, 0rpm @ idle and low-medium load is great for videocards, PSUs, and laptops. And don't forget smooth ramp up curves and fan hysteresis!
Title: A computer with no FANS
Me: Let me guess, this video Will have more interesting comment section.
I looked into this for years and just opted for the largest heat sink tower, settling on a Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO at the time, and used 2 fans with it and it's the most quiet PC I've EVER had. Didn't even need to draw out any cooling profiles either.
Just have enough space to fit the largest CPU heat sink, fans and you can keep the fan speed slow AND quiet.
So that's why Intel doesn't want another android phone
Remembering old Zenfone with Intel Inside boot logo
No because I do not own one 😂
@@Rainbow__cookie Ugh some apps it's crash because ARM code apps and Intel use x86 binary
and those 5 minutes for a boot up, what times...
No
I had a zenfone 2... The last ever intel phone. Damn it was fast and hot for its time. But the support for x86 was terrible which made the phone hella ineffecient and sipped power instantly
Some people build a fanless PC not because they can't tolerate fan noise, but keep their PC dust free because there is no airflow (except natural air convection)
Wait, why does techquickie is in 16:9 format while ltt is something like 18:9 or 20:9?
DIY Perks will love this video.
Best compromise between no noise and using fans: Noctua.
Throw in a silent case like the Define R5/R6 and set up a custom fan curve on your motherboard and suddenly the loudest part of your setup is the gentle hum from a spinning hard drive.
Not if you go with S.S.D's
I find the sound of a soft, low fan to be quite soothing.
My old computer (10 yrs ago) was a bit noisy, but it was all low-humming fans. I liked to just stick my head into the side of the case to listen to them running every so often.
Got a Linus ad while watching a Linus video, thats A LOT of Linus
I imagine a desktop setup designed to dissipate the heat and designed with openable compartmentd above key points (above the hard drive graphics card etc) where you can insert chilled dry gel ice packs. Moisture could be controlled by placing the icepacks into sealable plastic bags before putting them in the compartments, and making the compartments thick enough to prevent condensation but still provide direct cooling. Depending on the size of the gel pack, you could cool your rig for a significant period of time before having to replace a pack.
It would be a thing of rig building beauty.
"Jet engine taking off on your desk" My server does this often. Damned little 20 mm fan...
If you haven't tried it already; bigger fan, lower rpm, lower pitch.
@@uss-dh7909 1U rack, nuff said.
My EVGA Hadron air has a 500 Watt 1U looking PSU with a tiny ,40mm fan and it is loud when under stress or at startup
I lived with one of these in my bedroom for a month. One time my friend remotely rebooted it while I was sleeping and it woke me up. The 14k sas hdd were loud as fuck also.
I like the noise myself. The whirring fans and hard drives of PCs just kinda make me happy!
Dang I didn't know there was a computer that everyone didn't like.
that is _not_ what makes RISC CPUs different that CISC CPUs, there are desktop RISC CPUs and the CPU in your smart phone is capable of _any_ task (albeit at a slower speed) your desktop CPU can do
the top fan in my computer case makes a throttling noise when i turn on my pc, and slowly goes away
Same i really want to know how to fix this
Love the car refrences. As a petrol-head and a PC guy , among other things, I do appreciate this style.
0:49
Red Magic phone :"hold my mini fan"
There are plenty of fanless laptops out there by the way, with low power Celeron or Y series intel x86 CPUs. I got one of the former for 220$, Peaq Slim 130s; it stutters a bit with too many tabs open, but for light loads it works perfectly without huge heatsinks. It dissipates just like a tablet.
alaska people be like: what is fans?
Remember when RISC was a desktop and workstation technology, sometimes with giant heat sinks?
Good times.
(PA-RISC, Alpha, PowerPC, Power platform, SPARC…)
A computer without any fans? No thanks, I already have an Apple III.
Many early computers didn't use fans, but they didn't have to handle the same amount of processing either.
I have Apple C Nokia version^Saitama vers. 0.1
@@writerpatrick these are not the kind of fans he is referring to
That thing had a 100% failure rate because of that
Rubber fan mounts will reduce most noise transferred to the metal casing.
Virtually every cpu uses RISC these days, even desktop varieties. Complex instructions are split into risc-type micro-ops.
Power reduction is typically achieved by short bursts of sleep cycles.
when you say computer has no fans but i don't even have one for like 20 years already
REGEN macintosh isn't real computer
I made a fanless media PC a while back by stripping down an old laptop, putting it in a new custom case, and replacing the old fans with a giant copper heatsink.
Got the idea from some DIY channel, it works and looks great though.
Linus when he tries to give everyone a headache 0:07
There are also a few computer cases that ARE the heatsink. They include the ability to tool them into your CPU and GPU, so the heat dissipates all through the case.
You mean cool
From the "Hackers" movie: "Risc is going to change the world".
Sebastian is wrong about RISC. It's about managing thermals/power usage by throttling and power savings. Smart phones also have a lot less memory bandwidth.
Modern x64 CPUs are basically RISC inside, just with a CISC frontend. The frontend itself is also used for many kinds of optimizations, so in reality it doesn't cost much power.
my computer doesn't sound like a jet engine,
*it's more like a rocket engine*
PC wIth no fans!
FANS with no PC
1:42 Linus lies - Commander Keen is amazing and from 1990 - he was 4 years old! id went on to make Wolfenstein, Doom, and Quake!
That a processor is RISC processor doesn't mean that it doesn't need active cooling, for example the PowerPC architecture are a RISC instruction set and they need substantial cooling. Furthermore, most CISC processors today are RISC processors emulating a CISC instructionset, this is because many CISC instructions are doing almost the same thing with just minor variations. In fact the first thing your x86 cpu does is break down the complex CISC instruction in to several simpler RISC instructions which allows it to more efficiently utilize the hardware and enables things like out of order execution and hyper threading.
0:24 Talking about jet engines on your desk, does anyone remember the stock cooler that came with AMD FX processors? 70mm cooler going 6000 rpm everytime you opened a youtube video. You could hear that thing from 2 rooms away xD
RISC: simpler instructions, each of which takes only one cpu cycle, and which operate register to register only (memory load/store are separate instructions, needing their own cycle)
CISC: more complex instructions that often take multiple cpu cycles and operate memory-to-memory thus including load/store
Most RISC CPU's these days have actually MORE instructions than equivalent CISC processors.
This explanation may be 20 years old - but it's still pretty good:
cs.stanford.edu/people/eroberts/courses/soco/projects/2000-01/risc/risccisc/
2:39 sounds like Half life 2's monsters
I'M WITH THE SCIENCE TEAM
On-topic: YEAH! FINALLY! A segment about RISC! Thank you!!!
No love for Intel NUC in a heatsink case? Silent and decent performance.
RISC is just as general purpose as CISC. It is simply more efficient in certain tasks than CISC, and less efficient in other tasks.
By definition, any computer that is Turing-complete can do all tasks that any other Turing-complete computer can, if hypothetically given unlimited RAM and computing time.
Ever get the feeling they make some of these videos just because they have a sponsor and need something to put the sponsor add in?
No Fans? I like my PC to have..... Only Fans.....
0:48 "... don't use fan at all...smartphone "
Asus: i'm a joke to you ?
Everyone: Yes.
Given the trend towards ARM and other advances It's inevitable even high-end PC CPU's and GPU's won't need fans anymore, and our children and grandchildren will laugh at the huge monstrous case designs, fans and heatsinks we used to have to install back in the stone ages.
*_Answer: ARM_*
no software support moment
@@mihirpatil8843 really? *Looks at the millions of apps on Google Play, various Linux distros for ARM, Windows 10 IoT (ok that last one is more of a hobbyist OS but still...)
@@mihirpatil8843 get out from the cave
@@mbahmarijan789 I use arm on raspi, and some things just don't exist on it that work well on x86
@@mihirpatil8843 I mean solution for future.. For now, of course it's not stable yet... Apple going to launch ARM based mac book next year,,, that sounds and answer to me... Microsoft also working on it
You mentioned the compulab airtop, it's a high end gaming rig, and it's passively cooled, and works perfectly great.
Me: watching this on a computer without any fans.......
I've never, ever, found fans in computers to be noisy unless they're actually failing. It baffles me how noise is actually an important buying factor for so many people. I'm running an i9 9900k @ 5.1GHz on AIR COOLING via Le Grand Macho RT. It's sitting right next to me in a massive Thermaltake X71 case filled to the brim with fans (it's possibly the largest consumer grade PC case on the market for less than $200 and it completely dwarfs my other rig's HAF 932). I honestly can barely hear it right now (and my hearing is very good). When I'm playing a demanding game, my EVGA GTX 1080ti superclocked black edition will ramp up a little bit and I can hear it but only if I mute the game itself. Noise level is a HYPED QUALITY that no one genuinely cares about. If your PC is noisy that means you have a fan that is failing or a really, really shitty set of fans that are working normally.
'sound like a jet engine' while showing a be quiet! dark base pro 900...
Given the correct OS, a RISC processor is as general purpose as an x86 or ia64. For example the only reason there is no full microsoft office for windows 8 or 10 for (ARM)tablets is because Microsoft did not bother releasing, developing or compiling office for RISC processors. You see libre-office and openoffice both have full functionality version for RISC processors for several RISC OSes.
Just remember PowerPC and SPARC processor architectures are also RISC based.
When I’ve got my headphones on I can’t hear it anyway
Thing that Linus said about RISC is very strange. The fact that most of our phones use RISC doesn't mean that much. With RISC you can easily build a system with exactly the same functionality in high-level (in a customer's view), and the reason why phones have RISC and PC's CISC (even though there's no explicit distinction between them nowadays) ISA is mainly historical. If you'll make RISC computer, no one would buy it because there's simply no soft written on it.
HOLY CRAP! That was a complete dumpster fire of an explanation on RISC.
Fans: Ima head out
Other parts: Is it summer now?
"Jet engine" shows apu 👌👌
Do you remember that the original Macintosh models were fan less. I remember there was even a hood/chimney you could buy to attach to the top to help with convection cooling for those who worried there wasn’t enough air movement by itself. I owned two different models that were fan less classic Macs and they never needed any additional cooling systems other than natural convection cooling. Silence is bliss 😁
I'm surprised that Linus didn't say "LTT store" when the LTT case fans were shown.
Would be great to have a few videos on backups, NASes, and port forwarding
0:52 linus pls do ur homework phones are already using fans & vapour chamber & liquid cooling
Linus: A water cooler on a phone is not practical
Also Linus: WATER COOLED CALCULATOR!
first thing I think: WATER COOLING
Are you FUCKING STUPID? What you put on you WATER COOLING RADIATORS? (fans afcourse). And as Linus said, you can have NO fans with air cooling. Just buy Noctua NH-D15 and use the fans on very low speed, and you won't hear the fans AT ALL. :)
RISC = power efficient is kind of inaccurate, though. IBM's POWER and PowerPC are RISC ISAs as well, and yet the CPUs that implement it aren't necessarily power efficient. Hell, power efficiency is why Apple went to Intel in 2006.
Dvd drive is laughing 😂
Put the fans in another room and route ducts to the back of the pc. Can’t hear the fans, still get the cooling. They do that in chemistry labs with fume hoods.
Me: * sees clickbaity title* yeah Linus, it's called passive cooling, and it's not exactly new or an unknown thing
Ok
It's microbore technology where everything is made smaller so the heat distribution is lessened, where you have a desktop that has more power it's going to have more heat
You should have mentioned cooling with "Peltier" thermoelectric effect, which doesn't use fans and doesn't need such large heatsink!