Yup, you nailed it, I have drafted 2 real teams and dozens of mocks on ESPN. The first I went RB/RB and the second one I went elite WR/RB/RB. Ended up with Waddle on both teams as well as a ton of other quality WR. Also got QB Murray in one and Hurts in the other.
I agree with most of this. The only thing I can never get behind is drafting a teams WR2 in the second round of my draft. Waddle always gets drafted at his ceiling, combined with the fact he’s ALWAYS banged up, and Tyreek is a target hog. Can’t get behind Waddle in round 2. Would rather an elite RB or even someone like DK and Mike Evans at a slightly better price tag.
Marvin Harrison is getting crazy hype and is being drafted over many wr1 options and rbs with rb1 upside. He's a generational talent, but to pick him over proven guys is upside pick and not safe pick. Hard to not go safe pick in first 2 rds.
This video was 🔥 most of my drafts are on ESPN and this confirmed what I was thinking in RB values going early creating huge value for WR later in drafts.
Not sure if you know but I’ve seen this on every ESPN video I’ve seen this year but these ADPs are not the draft board, they are where people are taking them in mocks. Like Drake London on the draft board is 23ov not 34. Almost all the payers in the video are 1-12 spots higher than this. Still all great picks, and guys I have been targeting heavily on ESPN.
Took Jonathan Taylor and Devon Achane from the 8th spot of 12. There was a crazy run of Rbs in second round (11 of 12). Have second pick in a ten team the next two nights. Have been thinking Cee Dee in one and Tyreek in the other assuming CMC doesnt fall. now i dont know what to do 😂
I play in a 3 wr, 1 flex 10 team league on espn. Very sharp league and I think all these players will go earlier than the espn adp, especially bc everyone in my league waits super late at qb and te
If you know that, draft with them until you’re ready to be the first one to draft the best QB and TE … then watch them scramble to draft QB & TE. that’s when you take the best of rest WRs & RBs! Too easy, you got this. Don’t overthink it!
12 team full ppr and I got the 12 spot in my Yahoo home league 😭. I wish we'd move to Sleeper, but everyone is comfortable with Yahoo so it is what it is. I am almost certain I can get any combo of Gibbs, Kyren, Henry, with Taylor and Saquon sprinkled in. My question to anyone: I've seen Garrett fall in mocks, and if he does I'm taking him, but would you draft Puka here or would you double up at RB? I really don't like going 22 players in between picks.
I’ve also found this to be my best teams. It depends on how people are drafting as my second RB though. A lot of the mock Drafts I’m in people are going zero or robust RB smh. Keep in mind I’m mock drafting in full PPR 12 team. It gets a bit ridiculous 😂 I will always grab at least 1 RB in the first 3 rounds but then I’m looking for value based on on my own rankings.
I had to break the draft a rb in the first 2 tell me I’m wrong 10 team league ceedee lamb fell to 6th for my 1st rd pick. Then Jamar chase was available at 15. So I followed up with etienne , jacobs, Kamara , deebo, Amari cooper , swift, love, bowers, Caleb Williams, ekecler, ford, goedert, chiefs d, and lions kicker. Also have hockenson on my ir spot.
I did a mock in espn last night and i took sun god as my wr1 and wilson fell to the 2nd so i had to. Jacobs was my rb1 yeah thats gross but man wilson and sun god as my wr1 and wr2
That's my question as well. I feel like WR are more valubale for those leagues. Of course, depends how the draft plays out and what is available. Double RB seems like such a risk 🤔
Average Draft Position means the average of their drafts. It doesn't mean that's where they go every time. An ADP of 23 can mean he'll be drafted anywhere from 13 to 33 or even further off.
For traditional roster settings (2RB, 2WR, 1flex) I think ESPN has RB valued properly. The rest of the industry is pushing up WRs because of best balls growing popularity (3WR)
If you’re on ESPN Achane sometimes drops to the 3rd. I had the 1.05 and got Bijan, Marvin Harrison, and Achane in the first 3 rounds. I may have just gotten super lucky, but idk
I just finished my draft on ESPN and this is my team: QB: Lamar RB: Bijan/Achane Wr: MHJr/Kupp Flex: Pickens/ DeVonta Smith TE: Luke Ferguson 10 team league but you would’ve thought it was 8 with how stacked this team is 😭
@@harrison127 Ok, that’s like a standard league so you may be alright. Especially if Kupp can get back to his old self. But I would go get that rookie RB (Wright) in Miami if I were you.
Y’all said the same thing after Kirk got hurt and Jefferson played amazing after with backups. I promise u Vikings and Darnold will be better than you think.
@@bigsc000t7 What team sits down their star players with seven games to go…??? Regardless of the record, they still have to put a product on the field that will put butts in seats. That’s why Jefferson gets paid. Stop listening to morons.
Disagree with round 1 and 2 players being a lock. Lock at the pre draft rankings last year and how many of those guys finished top 10, particularly running backs
Draft Packers WR not named Jayden Reed..one of them are going to the 🌖. Also love Pearsall in late rounds..of course especially if Aiyuk gets moved and they don't trade for anyone
Jags theory here What if the jags are planning on airing out the ball a TON this year Didn't they pay Lawrence like he should be do something My jags investment is going to be Engram
I’m drafting 6th in my 12 man league on ESPN I have a feeling breece and bijon are gonna be gone by then. So then I’d have to get lucky and hopefully get etn at 19 in the second but if he’s not there idk who the main target should be.
Fantrax is the only $$$ I play. I dont believe in trades for ANY Fantasy sport. Learn to draft and use the waiver wire or wait until next year, or next decade, or next century. That being said, the best ball at many other sites is great, just draft and hope.
Nick, I hear you say a lot that Amari Cooper is not a league winner, when he was quite literally a league winner last year scoring over 50 points in the semifinal round. Yes he’s boom-bust, but as a flex play he has the upside to quite literally be a league winner
@@marshallrockwell5866 you don’t win your league in the regular season though. If a player can get you 50 points any given week and you get that in the playoffs then it boosts your advance rate. I would understand his argument more if he were talking about a player drafted in the first 3 rounds, but most people are drafting Cooper in the flex range
Bro idc what ESPN ranks London, deebo, and Aiyuk as they are all going in the 2nd round early 3rd the absolute latest, there isn't a draft in the world you can get London at 37 and deebo, and aiyuk at 41 47 is laughable.
I would look for another TE for sure. I had goedert last year and it was a struggle even when he played. But wr are solid and I love pacheco. Good value on mostert but i dunno if I'd trust him for the full season.
I went zero RB in my $100 superflex league last night with the 3 ovr pick. Ceedee, kyler, jordan love, kupp, aiyuk, jayden daniels, malik nabers. I finished the draft with like 6 RBs in a row just hoping skme starter gets injured but right now we have Najee at RB1 HAHAHAHA
Yup, you nailed it, I have drafted 2 real teams and dozens of mocks on ESPN. The first I went RB/RB and the second one I went elite WR/RB/RB. Ended up with Waddle on both teams as well as a ton of other quality WR. Also got QB Murray in one and Hurts in the other.
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I agree with most of this. The only thing I can never get behind is drafting a teams WR2 in the second round of my draft. Waddle always gets drafted at his ceiling, combined with the fact he’s ALWAYS banged up, and Tyreek is a target hog. Can’t get behind Waddle in round 2. Would rather an elite RB or even someone like DK and Mike Evans at a slightly better price tag.
I have not seen Waddle go in the 2nd. He's usually there mid to late third in my experience.
I’ve done a ton of mock drafts and Waddle has never been picked in the second round
Can we get a Yahoo video???
Marvin Harrison is getting crazy hype and is being drafted over many wr1 options and rbs with rb1 upside. He's a generational talent, but to pick him over proven guys is upside pick and not safe pick. Hard to not go safe pick in first 2 rds.
I am really hoping nick do a the best strategy this season (picks 1-4) 5-8 and 9-12. Soon because those help in the long run
thank you for affirming my stance on RBs on ESPN
London draft board rank is 23 which is what shows up when you draft.
These rankings don't seem accurate. ESPN PPR mock draft ADP: London is at 23, Aiyuk - 36, Deebo - 46, Kupp - 41, Waddle - 39, Cooper - 67, Kyler - 83, Kirk - 76, Odunze - 97, Goff - 204
Josh Palmer is also a crazy value. You have him 132 and espn is at 176
How often could you get a potential WR 1 in your 13th round wr 6 pick lol. Also love AD Mitchell here
And he’s paired with a top 10 qb 🫠🫠 I don’t know how he is at 176!
@@Cwis1 🙈 JH is not a top 10 QB this year
He’s still top 10 skill wise just poor situation with lowered volume. If not top 10 he’s close but his numbers won’t be as good
@@Cwis1 with plantar fasciitis..and a run first game plan? I'd be surprised 🤷🏻♂️
This video was 🔥 most of my drafts are on ESPN and this confirmed what I was thinking in RB values going early creating huge value for WR later in drafts.
Rico Dowdle is going literally undefeated basically and Chubba too.
Is Chubba healthy??
Chubba is free
Doodle is fine. Chubba has brooks
Thanks Nick. Always great content. I'm looking forward to the YAHOO value video. And I hope you do one on MFLs ADPs too. Thanks
Yeah can’t fall for the London hype again this year, I’ll believe it when I see it.
Should we fall for the Pitts hype? Will he finally have a solid season??
I'm not saying London is going to pay off...but Ridder was 43rd in catchable target rate last year, Kirk was third.
Videos like this one confirm why I chose you as my FF guide, keep up the good work Nick!
Keep the knowledge coming! It’s Nick here, and I know my fantasy football
Not sure if you know but I’ve seen this on every ESPN video I’ve seen this year but these ADPs are not the draft board, they are where people are taking them in mocks. Like Drake London on the draft board is 23ov not 34. Almost all the payers in the video are 1-12 spots higher than this. Still all great picks, and guys I have been targeting heavily on ESPN.
Can someone confirm this
London is 31 on my espn draft board
@@joshmccurdy5975 are you on ppr or standard
@@victaylor230 just enter a mock and look at the board
I guess depends on the format but in full ppr London is going back of the second round
I can’t wait to see your yahoo draft strategy! It seems like RBs are overvalued somewhat on yahoo too, with a number of WRs being good values.
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Took Jonathan Taylor and Devon Achane from the 8th spot of 12. There was a crazy run of Rbs in second round (11 of 12). Have second pick in a ten team the next two nights. Have been thinking Cee Dee in one and Tyreek in the other assuming CMC doesnt fall. now i dont know what to do 😂
At the 9th pick, ive been getting waddle in the 3rd round in every mock ive done. I sure hope that happens in my real one
I thought you preached over and over that doing mocks is pointless?
Yahoo tomorrow? I have my yahoo draft tomorrow!!
Got Kupp at 48th Waddle at 49th and Cooper at 72nd
Incredible analysis and suggestions! BRAVO!
I play in a 3 wr, 1 flex 10 team league on espn. Very sharp league and I think all these players will go earlier than the espn adp, especially bc everyone in my league waits super late at qb and te
If you know that, draft with them until you’re ready to be the first one to draft the best QB and TE … then watch them scramble to draft QB & TE. that’s when you take the best of rest WRs & RBs! Too easy, you got this. Don’t overthink it!
Would you take Odunze over Ladd McConkey?
Yes
Please understand 2 of Nick Mullens 4 games were against Detroit who had a terrible defense.
Drafted from the 1.03 and started CMC, MHJ, Davante, Waddle and Rachaad White. Love the value of those three wr in 2-4.
CMC 3rd pick is wild
Got waddle in rd 5 in my league.....
Taking Khalil Herbert off waivers last year in the championship round won me the league
12 team full ppr and I got the 12 spot in my Yahoo home league 😭. I wish we'd move to Sleeper, but everyone is comfortable with Yahoo so it is what it is. I am almost certain I can get any combo of Gibbs, Kyren, Henry, with Taylor and Saquon sprinkled in. My question to anyone:
I've seen Garrett fall in mocks, and if he does I'm taking him, but would you draft Puka here or would you double up at RB? I really don't like going 22 players in between picks.
I’ve also found this to be my best teams. It depends on how people are drafting as my second RB though. A lot of the mock Drafts I’m in people are going zero or robust RB smh. Keep in mind I’m mock drafting in full PPR 12 team. It gets a bit ridiculous 😂
I will always grab at least 1 RB in the first 3 rounds but then I’m looking for value based on on my own rankings.
I had to break the draft a rb in the first 2 tell me I’m wrong 10 team league ceedee lamb fell to 6th for my 1st rd pick. Then Jamar chase was available at 15. So I followed up with etienne , jacobs, Kamara , deebo, Amari cooper , swift, love, bowers, Caleb Williams, ekecler, ford, goedert, chiefs d, and lions kicker. Also have hockenson on my ir spot.
I did a mock in espn last night and i took sun god as my wr1 and wilson fell to the 2nd so i had to. Jacobs was my rb1 yeah thats gross but man wilson and sun god as my wr1 and wr2
I think you will end up quite happy with JJ as well.
Got my 100 teams drafted see how it shakes out 🏆
Does the RB early on ESPN strat change if you’re in a full PPR 2 FLEX league?
That's my question as well. I feel like WR are more valubale for those leagues. Of course, depends how the draft plays out and what is available. Double RB seems like such a risk 🤔
Not if you can get a RB who does it all early..Breece, Bijan, Gibbs, Kyren, .. also really love Pacheco and Jacob's this year as 3 down backs
Would love to see a Yahoo version of this video
i got jefferson at 11 in my draft this year 😈
Average Draft Position means the average of their drafts. It doesn't mean that's where they go every time. An ADP of 23 can mean he'll be drafted anywhere from 13 to 33 or even further off.
No 💩 Sherlock.
Well obviously.. are you saying players don't go in the same position in every draft? lol and you're passing that off as insight?
I have pick 4 in a Full PPR 3wr 1 flex. Would you still recommend to go breece over Jefferson? This is a ESPN league
Yes I have the same pick in the same format lol. It’s got to be breece or bijan here on espn
Nice vid Nick. I just can't get on the London train, but it's mostly a gut thing.
I can see the hype on London. But can Kurt launch that football off his repaired Achilles?
If Cousins cant plant his foot then he will be pretty much useless. London will Bust.
I feel like we will know if that's the case before the season starts.
For traditional roster settings (2RB, 2WR, 1flex) I think ESPN has RB valued properly. The rest of the industry is pushing up WRs because of best balls growing popularity (3WR)
Nick you get married? Congrats big bro 🎉
Have you done any yahoo ten team drafts?
Thanks for the great info!! Just found out I have 1.01 for my big money league. Breece or Bijan?
Picking from 1.02 in a 10-team. Thoughts on Bijan or Breece? And Achane in the 2nd?
If you’re on ESPN Achane sometimes drops to the 3rd. I had the 1.05 and got Bijan, Marvin Harrison, and Achane in the first 3 rounds. I may have just gotten super lucky, but idk
@@harrison127Bijan fell to me at 1.08 😲 and I reached for Achane at 2.05 and Harrison in the 3rd rd! Go big or go home!!! 🙌🏽🙏🏼👌🏽
J.J. McCarthy is getting the meniscus repair. He's done for the year.
Thanks
Hammers how you need to go RB/RB and picks WR/WR? Quite a confusing take to be honest.
Do the same thing for Yahoo rankings please !
Love kupp he gonna pop
I just finished my draft on ESPN and this is my team:
QB: Lamar
RB: Bijan/Achane
Wr: MHJr/Kupp
Flex: Pickens/ DeVonta Smith
TE: Luke Ferguson
10 team league but you would’ve thought it was 8 with how stacked this team is 😭
Meh
@@harrison127
If you’re in a full point PPR league…that may be a weak WR core for a 10 man league.
@@slickrick8046 it’s 1/2 PPR
@@harrison127
Ok, that’s like a standard league so you may be alright. Especially if Kupp can get back to his old self.
But I would go get that rookie RB (Wright) in Miami if I were you.
4 team league for sure….
I am in 8 team league with 2 flex spots, still take 2rbs first two rounds?
Great video! Please do this same video for yahoo.
Nick, my League Has Some Weird Point Changes.
Every 20 passing yards=1 Point
Which leads to an early run on QBS.
Should I reach for a QB round 1 or 2?
I wouldn’t there’s so many good qbs build your team
James cook or Josh Jacobs at end of 2nd round?
Please do a Yahoo value vid 🙏🏼
Would you draft 2 RBs in the 1st 3 round in a 1 PPR?
And when Minnesota is 2-8 and they shut Jefferson down, you'll wish you took St Brown with the 8 pick
this is how i’m feeling about him right now too… but if he falls how Nick is talking about it’s hard to argue with the potential upside
Y’all said the same thing after Kirk got hurt and Jefferson played amazing after with backups. I promise u Vikings and Darnold will be better than you think.
If Jefferson is still there at 8 that means Amon Ra is almost definitely gone. I do prefer Amon Ra over Jefferson too tho.
@@bigsc000t7
What team sits down their star players with seven games to go…??? Regardless of the record, they still have to put a product on the field that will put butts in seats. That’s why Jefferson gets paid. Stop listening to morons.
Nah, St Brown hardly is available at 8. That goes to Bijan or breece
Disagree with round 1 and 2 players being a lock. Lock at the pre draft rankings last year and how many of those guys finished top 10, particularly running backs
It’s really just injury busts in rounds 1 and 2 which you can’t predict
Doubs or Pearsall
Draft Packers WR not named Jayden Reed..one of them are going to the 🌖. Also love Pearsall in late rounds..of course especially if Aiyuk gets moved and they don't trade for anyone
Doubs
neither
@@TheOne-tf7tp probably the best answer
Yahoo please!!!!
Jags theory here
What if the jags are planning on airing out the ball a TON this year
Didn't they pay Lawrence like he should be do something
My jags investment is going to be Engram
Yahoo next please?
Another championship in the works.
I’m drafting 6th in my 12 man league on ESPN I have a feeling breece and bijon are gonna be gone by then. So then I’d have to get lucky and hopefully get etn at 19 in the second but if he’s not there idk who the main target should be.
You could stretch for King Henry a bit if you want to stay on the RB path. I think he'll be back to his monster self this year.
Do yahoo pls
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Nick, I hear you say a lot that Amari Cooper is not a league winner, when he was quite literally a league winner last year scoring over 50 points in the semifinal round. Yes he’s boom-bust, but as a flex play he has the upside to quite literally be a league winner
How many times you going to say “literally” like a dumb azz? Expand your vocab for Christ sake
I think by league winner, he means someone getting high scores consistently, so boom or bust kinda disqualifies the candidate
@@marshallrockwell5866 you don’t win your league in the regular season though. If a player can get you 50 points any given week and you get that in the playoffs then it boosts your advance rate. I would understand his argument more if he were talking about a player drafted in the first 3 rounds, but most people are drafting Cooper in the flex range
If you drafted him then you made the playoffs at a 5% lower rate and also couldn’t use him in the championship
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Would you still go RB RB start in a 3WR league with a flex PPR?
nope
No I'd probably aim for Hero under that format
@@FantasyFootballAdviceFFA still RB first though if you had the choice or just within first two rounds?
Can we get a yahoo?
Would a Kyler, MHJ, McBride stack be too crazy?
No not crazy. Just understand the risk if Kyler gets hurt and 3 picks all lose value
Only in best ball. Over stacking usually is a detriment in redraft.
ESpn rubs. Anytime I’m asked to join a ESpn league my answer is a easy NO. Yahoo since 2001 Sleeper is nice to. ESPN just blows 😅
Bro idc what ESPN ranks London, deebo, and Aiyuk as they are all going in the 2nd round early 3rd the absolute latest, there isn't a draft in the world you can get London at 37 and deebo, and aiyuk at 41 47 is laughable.
0 percent chance the jags take kirk pff the field in 2wr sets 😂
How’s my team? Half ppr 12 team
Qb: AR15
Wr: Chase
Wr: Deebo
Rb: Pacheco
Rb: Mostert
TE: Goedert
Flex- Nabers
Flex- Flowers
I would look for another TE for sure. I had goedert last year and it was a struggle even when he played. But wr are solid and I love pacheco. Good value on mostert but i dunno if I'd trust him for the full season.
Who is AR15?
@@joerussler286 Anthony Richardson
@@joerussler286 Anthony Richardson
@@joerussler286 Dunno. Artillery?
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Justin Jefferson first round with Sam Darnold throwing the ball??
Definitely. End of first, but still in 1st.
Darnold played quite well as the 49er back up. He might just surprise.
Darnold gave DJ Moore his best season as a Panther with over 1100 yards. Jefferson is tiers above Moore, and O'Connell is a tremendous coach
Now do Yahoo
Ppl don't even say please anymore. Show some respect.
I went zero RB in my $100 superflex league last night with the 3 ovr pick. Ceedee, kyler, jordan love, kupp, aiyuk, jayden daniels, malik nabers. I finished the draft with like 6 RBs in a row just hoping skme starter gets injured but right now we have Najee at RB1 HAHAHAHA
Najee is underrated this year imo. I'm all over najee and Warren this year.
RB/RB is crazy terrible advice