Help: I know noting about fish finders. What I need: water temperature, depths, boat speed, and structure/ schools of pan fish. What do you recommend? I only fish lakes/ a river within 100 mile radius here in Kentucky. Mounting on a 2004 Yamaha PF175, and I only fish a few times a year. What would you buy? Any brand and any size?
@@MrTaylorcraft I would recommend HELIX 8 CHIRP MEGA SI+ GPS G4N. At $1300 you get all the features of 10", 12", or 15" unit. If that is too much you can get HELIX 7 CHIRP MEGA SI GPS G4 for $750. Note the first one can be networked, if you expand in the future. I would pair both of the these with a Lakemaster mapping card for the Southeast, which includes Kentucky. Let me know if you have more questions.
In general, the TI units are faster in response to inputs. This is seen when quickly switching between sonar, downscan, chart, and split screens ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxeAxH15LxhjGlg5-CRYqjTGTEH0tbY4vk recommend The Hook units will show some lag on button pushes and screen switching. The big ticket item though is maps. If you install a mapping card such as Navionics or the free C-Map Genesis which has a lot of map detail, then moving around the map with the cursor or when running down the lake can lag significantly on the Hook units, but is seamless with the TI units.
In general, the TI units are faster in response to inputs. This is seen when quickly switching between sonar, downscan, chart, and split screens ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxeAxH15LxhjGlg5-CRYqjTGTEH0tbY4vk recommend The Hook units will show some lag on button pushes and screen switching. The big ticket item though is maps. If you install a mapping card such as Navionics or the free C-Map Genesis which has a lot of map detail, then moving around the map with the cursor or when running down the lake can lag significantly on the Hook units, but is seamless with the TI units.
Let me guess... you bought a TI. You are comparing something that is twice the price, without mentioning price. How is the touchscreen in the rain? when splashed? With gloves on? How easy is it to use in rougher water - we don't all fish cosy, calm lakes.
I am looking at getting a hook reveal 5 downscan or a helix 5 di g2. What would You get? Isn't helix about 8 years old reveal 4 years old? Helix looks clearer down scan but the reveal feature is nice also.
Very well explained thank you, you have helped me to make my mind up, it the helix for me , take good care kind regards alan………….THE DAWN CHORUS PLOT 🌿
I like the Helix because you have more control over the image via the settings. Lowrance has a one knob control. To me, that’s the biggest different. I had a elite 9 TI and never felt like it was good as my bird was. My new boat has birds, and I love them. Whichever choice you make I hope it works awesome for you!
MY HOOK 9 WENT BAD AFTER 4 TIMES IN THE WATER LESS THAN 6 MONTHS OLD AND ITS STILL UNER WARRANTY AND THEY WANTED 200 BUCKS TO FIX IT. I WILL NEVER BUY 1 AGAIN
I have an old Humminbird 797 that was on my boat when I bought it. I transferred the waypoints to my new Lowrance Elite 9ti when I got it. Since I can’t network them, can I mark a waypoint on my (console) Lowrance and periodically transfer and update the Humminbird (on the bow) with those new waypoints? I guess this would be a poor man’s networking. Keep up the good work. I enjoyed your video.
If you are comparing apples with apples maybe you should include the Lowrance elite models to compare against the higher end Hummingbird models. Cheers
Just started looking for fish finders at the beginning of this year. New to the fish finder world and it can be very confusing. Awesome video very informative without all the confusing mumbo jumbo lingo they use in other videos. I was already leaning towards the helix 7 g4 (that's what brought me here) but I think you just sold me on it. Also I didn't have a clue about the pixel math so that was good research on your part!
Thank you. That is a great unit to start off with. I had the g3 DI version for a couple of years and loved it. Which verison are you getting? (DI or SI?)
I am debating between these units at the moment…..I think I may go with the Helix based on the built in mapping. The Lowrance unit has inland lakes but I fish inshore coastal. It would require a map purchase. The Humminbird basemap that is standard has the Coastal US coverage. Other than that, from watching videos, I am of the opinion that the Helix is easier to set up and use.
Looking to get a FF for my paddle kayak. Does that setup altar your opinion? Thinking I should wait for that upcoming Helix 7 that they have on the website as "coming soon" but that Hook Reveal does seem easy to use for a first FF. This video was perfect for me btw thanks!
I would get the helix 7 MDI. If you want live imaging someday you have to get the G4N. Otherwise get the G3. If you had a pedal kayak you could do some scanning with MSI.
@@clearwaterfishing interesting, what makes you say that side imaging is more suited for a pedal kayak than a paddle kayak? I would think being in shallow water would mean side imaging is important in either kayak but it sounds like that may not be the case?
@@chefmatt6299 For SI it is important to keep a straight line for good image quality. It’s why you don’t see MSI on trolling motors. In my experience paddles are tough to keep in a straight line.
Hello clearwater fishing. Questions on the lowrance hook reveal 9 please. 1. Internal memory? 2. Unit with world base map and no charts loaded. Will the internal gps allow u to track and make waypoints without land and water? I am currently not in the US and will be freestyle spearfishing Thanks for ur input.
This was helpful. I’m looking at the hook2 7 with triple shot, the Hook reveal 7 triple shot with c map, the elite fs 7, and the helix 7 chirp si gps g4. I’d like your opinion on these and maybe you can help me understand whats the big differences between them all.
I like the helix because I have more control over the image. Whether it is more frequency ranges or just having both contrast and sensitivity settings. Don't get me wrong the others will work great, but I like the control to fine tune my image. I am still learning how to get it perfect though.
Thanks for your review. Do you have to pick between mega si and mega di on humminbird? Can you have a unit that has both? If you can only pick one, which one would you prefer and why?
I think you forgot to mention that you can use navionics cards on a humminbird. Over here in europe every humminbird user does that because there a no lakemaster maps available for europe. Thats one reason why the popularity of garmin (wich owns navionics) has grown immensly over here. Humminbird better starts to focus on the world not only on the US market.
The mega imaging/mega side imaging is so sick man. Detail to a T. It’s really hard to find a Helix G4N, they must be havin’ a hard time gettin’ them in the USA 🇺🇸.
@@clearwaterfishing well it’s actually the Helix 7 that’s hard to find. The 8 and 9 I was able to find. Unless it’ll say on back order when you try to buy it.
Thanks for the great videos. Im hoping to add a helix 10 di+ g4n to network with my 12 mega chirp si g2n. Hoping to get a great deal around black friday. Might just get the 7 because the 10 and 7 g4n's have the same amount of pixels. So is the 10 screen any better?
@@clearwaterfishing Yes, the 9" & bigger have 2 card slots. Right now I'm trying to figure out which Helix 7 to buy. I'm considering either the G4 with or without Mega. The non Mega unit has Chirp 800khz so I'm not sure if there a big enough difference to make it worth it. Especially when from what I have heard Mega is only good for about 25' and then you lose detail and are better off on another frequency. I hope to get a spot lock trolling motor some day and the prices on them are Ludacris. So the $200 difference could help with that.
@@MrWhiltetail I get really good detail on mega SI about 75 ft out and 50 ft on mega DI. I don't fish any deeper than 40 ft. The difference between mega and 800 khz is all detail. Will you find the same brush pile on both, yes. Will you be able to tell the difference between some of the limbs and a fish up close on 800 khz, maybe. Are you going to fish it anyway? (If you are hard headed like me the answer is yes. lol). Hope that helps.
The helix will be higher quality all around. If you are looking to expand someday a networking helix will allow that. If you want and inexpensive stand alone unit to help you find interesting areas, navigate, and find fish I would go triple shot. I think the helix is worth the upgrade.
@@clearwaterfishing Interesting take and I really am torn, I kayak fish, inland fresh water lakes, lots of weeds but at times you have to fish out in the open and the versatility of the Hook has me interested but I hear what you are saying..... I would only have room for one unit.
@@clearwaterfishing I ended up getting the Garmin ECHOMAP UHD 73sv Fish Finder/Chartplotter Combo, had everything I was looking for in one unit. good price on sale for less than 500. on a kayak I dont have a ton of room so this seems to have it all. the touch screen was a big plus. thanks if you have a review for it I will definatly check that out.
Which one are you getting?
I am planning on getting either the helix or the solix.
@@texasfishingguy4076 Woo!
getting a Reveal 7
Help: I know noting about fish finders. What I need: water temperature, depths, boat speed, and structure/ schools of pan fish. What do you recommend? I only fish lakes/ a river within 100 mile radius here in Kentucky.
Mounting on a 2004 Yamaha PF175, and I only fish a few times a year. What would you buy? Any brand and any size?
@@MrTaylorcraft I would recommend HELIX 8 CHIRP MEGA SI+ GPS G4N. At $1300 you get all the features of 10", 12", or 15" unit. If that is too much you can get HELIX 7 CHIRP MEGA SI GPS G4 for $750. Note the first one can be networked, if you expand in the future. I would pair both of the these with a Lakemaster mapping card for the Southeast, which includes Kentucky. Let me know if you have more questions.
In general, the TI units are faster in response to inputs. This is seen when quickly switching between sonar, downscan, chart, and split screens ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxeAxH15LxhjGlg5-CRYqjTGTEH0tbY4vk recommend The Hook units will show some lag on button pushes and screen switching. The big ticket item though is maps. If you install a mapping card such as Navionics or the free C-Map Genesis which has a lot of map detail, then moving around the map with the cursor or when running down the lake can lag significantly on the Hook units, but is seamless with the TI units.
In general, the TI units are faster in response to inputs. This is seen when quickly switching between sonar, downscan, chart, and split screens ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxeAxH15LxhjGlg5-CRYqjTGTEH0tbY4vk recommend The Hook units will show some lag on button pushes and screen switching. The big ticket item though is maps. If you install a mapping card such as Navionics or the free C-Map Genesis which has a lot of map detail, then moving around the map with the cursor or when running down the lake can lag significantly on the Hook units, but is seamless with the TI units.
Let me guess... you bought a TI. You are comparing something that is twice the price, without mentioning price. How is the touchscreen in the rain? when splashed? With gloves on? How easy is it to use in rougher water - we don't all fish cosy, calm lakes.
Just picked up the hook reveal 9-inch triple shot for my first locator on my first boat. I was on sale and snagged it for $350
I am looking at getting a hook reveal 5 downscan or a helix 5 di g2. What would You get? Isn't helix about 8 years old reveal 4 years old? Helix looks clearer down scan but the reveal feature is nice also.
Very well explained thank you, you have helped me to make my mind up, it the helix for me , take good care kind regards
alan………….THE DAWN CHORUS PLOT 🌿
You are welcome.
Thanks you’re informative made me feel better about having the helix 8 in my online cart at bass pro.
I've seen 3 other such Helix or Hook Reveal videos...and all three suggested the Lowrance. Things that make you go hmmmmm. 🤔
I like the Helix because you have more control over the image via the settings. Lowrance has a one knob control. To me, that’s the biggest different. I had a elite 9 TI and never felt like it was good as my bird was. My new boat has birds, and I love them. Whichever choice you make I hope it works awesome for you!
MY HOOK 9 WENT BAD AFTER 4 TIMES IN THE WATER LESS THAN 6 MONTHS OLD AND ITS STILL UNER WARRANTY AND THEY WANTED 200 BUCKS TO FIX IT. I WILL NEVER BUY 1 AGAIN
Thanks for your work. I want with the Lowrance Hook Reveal 9.
Sound like a good pick to me.
Thanks for all the great info 👍 can't wait to see more stuff that helps me find more fish.
It’s coming. Been working on some upgrades of my own to learn and teach y’all.
I have an old Humminbird 797 that was on my boat when I bought it. I transferred the waypoints to my new Lowrance Elite 9ti when I got it. Since I can’t network them, can I mark a waypoint on my (console) Lowrance and periodically transfer and update the Humminbird (on the bow) with those new waypoints? I guess this would be a poor man’s networking. Keep up the good work. I enjoyed your video.
That's what I would do. If you get a bunch that need transferred, take the time at home and move them over.
If you are comparing apples with apples maybe you should include the Lowrance elite models to compare against the higher end Hummingbird models. Cheers
I thought I did one like that already. I definitely will if I haven't. Great idea!
Just started looking for fish finders at the beginning of this year. New to the fish finder world and it can be very confusing. Awesome video very informative without all the confusing mumbo jumbo lingo they use in other videos. I was already leaning towards the helix 7 g4 (that's what brought me here) but I think you just sold me on it.
Also I didn't have a clue about the pixel math so that was good research on your part!
Thank you. That is a great unit to start off with. I had the g3 DI version for a couple of years and loved it. Which verison are you getting? (DI or SI?)
I just ordered a reveal 9 ts for $425
I'm ready to see how I like it compared to my garmin 93sv
Gonna mount the lowrance on bow
I think you will like it.
Doesn’t the higher end Lowrance offer live imaging and networking? HDS Live, Carbon and the elite series?
Yes, they do. You have to step up in price range to get it.
I am debating between these units at the moment…..I think I may go with the Helix based on the built in mapping. The Lowrance unit has inland lakes but I fish inshore coastal. It would require a map purchase. The Humminbird basemap that is standard has the Coastal US coverage. Other than that, from watching videos, I am of the opinion that the Helix is easier to set up and use.
The Helix also has better and more features than the Hook Reveal.
Looking to get a FF for my paddle kayak. Does that setup altar your opinion? Thinking I should wait for that upcoming Helix 7 that they have on the website as "coming soon" but that Hook Reveal does seem easy to use for a first FF. This video was perfect for me btw thanks!
I would get the helix 7 MDI. If you want live imaging someday you have to get the G4N. Otherwise get the G3. If you had a pedal kayak you could do some scanning with MSI.
@@clearwaterfishing interesting, what makes you say that side imaging is more suited for a pedal kayak than a paddle kayak? I would think being in shallow water would mean side imaging is important in either kayak but it sounds like that may not be the case?
@@chefmatt6299 For SI it is important to keep a straight line for good image quality. It’s why you don’t see MSI on trolling motors. In my experience paddles are tough to keep in a straight line.
@@clearwaterfishing oh snap, I didn’t know that. So it’s a problem to the extent that I’m better off not even bothering with it. Thanks for the tip!
Well thought out comparison. Thank you for doing the work for me.
You are welcome. What info did you find the most helpful?
Have to say the best simple and easily to understand video loved it..!
Glad to hear that!
What the difference between the reveal and the hook 2?
Hook 2 is the older model. They don't make hook 2s anymore.
Hello clearwater fishing.
Questions on the lowrance hook reveal 9 please.
1. Internal memory?
2. Unit with world base map and no charts loaded. Will the internal gps allow u to track and make waypoints without land and water?
I am currently not in the US and will be freestyle spearfishing
Thanks for ur input.
This was helpful. I’m looking at the hook2 7 with triple shot, the Hook reveal 7 triple shot with c map, the elite fs 7, and the helix 7 chirp si gps g4. I’d like your opinion on these and maybe you can help me understand whats the big differences between them all.
I like the helix because I have more control over the image. Whether it is more frequency ranges or just having both contrast and sensitivity settings. Don't get me wrong the others will work great, but I like the control to fine tune my image. I am still learning how to get it perfect though.
So I’m in the same boat as you were once lol. Now i imagine you bought one and id like to which one and how are you liking it. Thanks.
Thanks for your review. Do you have to pick between mega si and mega di on humminbird? Can you have a unit that has both? If you can only pick one, which one would you prefer and why?
Great information. Thank you
Glad it was helpful! Which one do you like best for you?
Very informative. Thanks !
Glad it was helpful!
I think you forgot to mention that you can use navionics cards on a humminbird. Over here in europe every humminbird user does that because there a no lakemaster maps available for europe. Thats one reason why the popularity of garmin (wich owns navionics) has grown immensly over here. Humminbird better starts to focus on the world not only on the US market.
You are correct. Navionics does work in Humminbirds, and I totally missed that. Thanks for the catch.
The mega imaging/mega side imaging is so sick man. Detail to a T. It’s really hard to find a Helix G4N, they must be havin’ a hard time gettin’ them in the USA 🇺🇸.
They are working on a new manufacturing facility. At least, that is what I have heard through the grapevine.
@@clearwaterfishing well it’s actually the Helix 7 that’s hard to find. The 8 and 9 I was able to find. Unless it’ll say on back order when you try to buy it.
@@christopherhobby8391 Some sites won’t let you know until you try to order it.
Thanks for the great videos. Im hoping to add a helix 10 di+ g4n to network with my 12 mega chirp si g2n. Hoping to get a great deal around black friday. Might just get the 7 because the 10 and 7 g4n's have the same amount of pixels. So is the 10 screen any better?
Large is always better. You will be able to pick out smaller details easier.
Kool thanks. Keep up the great work!
@@Prentis1 I will!
Thank you, this has been the most helpful video I have found helping me make my decision.
No problem. Which did you pick?
@@clearwaterfishing I’m going to buy a humminbird Helix. Not sure exactly which model yet.
@@Tricksterbeaverisland nice. Let me know if you need more help.
Great video thanks
Thanks man!
Great info thanks
No problem. Glad I could help!
Thanks for your info. Good job
Which DI is clearest?
Great video again!👍👍
The G4 only has one card slot. If it had two I would buy it for sure.
I think the larger ones have 2. Starting with the 10.
@@clearwaterfishing Yes, the 9" & bigger have 2 card slots. Right now I'm trying to figure out which Helix 7 to buy. I'm considering either the G4 with or without Mega. The non Mega unit has Chirp 800khz so I'm not sure if there a big enough difference to make it worth it. Especially when from what I have heard Mega is only good for about 25' and then you lose detail and are better off on another frequency. I hope to get a spot lock trolling motor some day and the prices on them are Ludacris. So the $200 difference could help with that.
@@MrWhiltetail I get really good detail on mega SI about 75 ft out and 50 ft on mega DI. I don't fish any deeper than 40 ft. The difference between mega and 800 khz is all detail. Will you find the same brush pile on both, yes. Will you be able to tell the difference between some of the limbs and a fish up close on 800 khz, maybe. Are you going to fish it anyway? (If you are hard headed like me the answer is yes. lol). Hope that helps.
@@clearwaterfishing Thanks. So you are saying at 60 ft on SI you still get a better picture than 800kz?
@@MrWhiltetail most definitely
I sent you a email about my box
I shipped it Monday. Sorry for being so slow. I’ve been super busy at work.
@@clearwaterfishing do you have a date when it will arrive
@@Mnoutlaw_fishing I have the tracking number at work. You will probably have it before I get it on Monday.
Thanks James.
You are welcome. Let me know if I can help more!
@@clearwaterfishing I’m in New Zealand, salt water fishing. The lowrance are a lot cheaper her so going with the hook 9. Tzhanks
I was leaning toward the Hook 7 tripleshot so I would have both side and down imaging available. Humminbird it's one or the other.. thoughts?
The helix will be higher quality all around. If you are looking to expand someday a networking helix will allow that. If you want and inexpensive stand alone unit to help you find interesting areas, navigate, and find fish I would go triple shot. I think the helix is worth the upgrade.
@@clearwaterfishing Interesting take and I really am torn, I kayak fish, inland fresh water lakes, lots of weeds but at times you have to fish out in the open and the versatility of the Hook has me interested but I hear what you are saying..... I would only have room for one unit.
@@dacks14 Sounds like you are leaning toward the hook. Which isn't a bad option. Have you played with it at the store?
@@clearwaterfishing I ended up getting the Garmin ECHOMAP UHD 73sv Fish Finder/Chartplotter Combo, had everything I was looking for in one unit. good price on sale for less than 500. on a kayak I dont have a ton of room so this seems to have it all. the touch screen was a big plus. thanks if you have a review for it I will definatly check that out.
Man, your vids on electronics have helped me immensely in my search for one
I am really glad I could help. If you have any questions feel free to ask.
@@clearwaterfishing I have many. I sent you an email!
@@keepinstepoutdoors3364 Got it and replied
Great video man
Appreciate it! Let me know if I can help more.
seriously, no help deciding