The REAL Threat to British Democracy | Peter Oborne

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  • Опубліковано 27 лют 2024
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  • @DoubleDownNews
    @DoubleDownNews  3 місяці тому +99

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    • @Salman-sc8gr
      @Salman-sc8gr 3 місяці тому

      According to Prof. Alan Sabrowski ex US Army War College, 1109 was Israeli operation, hence to dig whistling and war of terror remains a FRAUD.

    • @kerryfry1857
      @kerryfry1857 3 місяці тому +1

      This is so disappointing and disingenuous. Labour couldn't vote for the SNPs motion, because it also included the term 'Collective Punishment.' This has to be ruled such, by international courts. Because it's a war crime. Governments can't accuse other governments of war crimes, without it first being judged a war crime. The SNP knew this. They knew Labour, who are very likely to be the next government. Couldn't agree with this. The SNP wanted to split Labour, cause a big row. Labour needed to support a ceasefire, but couldn't under those terms. The SNP were angry their plan didn't work. Labour are majorly challenging their party in the upcoming elections.
      I normally like and share DDN. If this is your poor journalism, heading into the next election. I'd advise anyone reading this to unsubscribe.

    • @scottyfive4319
      @scottyfive4319 3 місяці тому +5

      @@kerryfry1857 All it needed was Starmer to talk to the government and his MP's to vote down that motion and put through his own amendment to remove the Collective Punishment bit no split in the labour party ceasefire called for. The SNP position has not changed from the first days this was humanitarian NOT political, Starmer himself made it political and made it worse.

    • @alucardreyals1090
      @alucardreyals1090 3 місяці тому +6

      I could not disagree with a single word you uttered so eloquently and succinctly in this presentation. In fact, I was taken aback by the frankness and objectivity of your arguments. This will resonate with the vast majority of ordinary British people, who share the same qualities as you.

    • @SkyEcho7
      @SkyEcho7 3 місяці тому +5

      ​@@kerryfry1857
      'Labour couldn't vote for the SNPs motion - 'Collective Punishment'
      What else would you call what's happening to Gaza - Indiscriminate bombing, no water, food, energy or medicine - Yes it's War Crimes & no court needs to validate what everyone is witnessing, (think you're confusing this with the use of the term Genocide).
      The reason Labour couldn't agree or it would cause a split in the Party has ZERO to do with the SNP. It's because of their own infighting over antisemitism during Corby's Leadership & the media class response to that infighting.
      'Labour needed to support a ceasefire ...'
      There are 20 Opposition Days
      SNP get 3 & used 2 on this issue whilst Labour get 17 & haven't used any of them to call for a ceasefire on their terms.
      Terms
      SNP - An immediate ceasefire in Gaza and Israel
      Labour - An immediate humanitarian ceasefire
      Tories - An immediate humanitarian pause
      Fyi
      17 February Scottish Labour Conference Motion, which also included 'Collective Punishment' was passed.
      18 February SNP WM Leader, Stephen Flynn, wrote to Keir Starmer offering to meet & see if they could agree on a Ceasefire Motion but got no reply.
      Hoyle, The Speaker of the House of Commons & previously Labour MP, broke with the Commons Convention to allow a Labour Amendment to another Opposition Party Motion.
      Hoyle did this while other Labour & Tory MPs filibustered in an attempt to timeout a vote on the SNP Motion & Amendments.
      Hoyle's original excuse for breaking from convention was so there could be a wider debate but that's just nonsense as he could call anyone to speak in the debate.
      The 'plan' you assign to the SNP never existed - Foreign Policy & Defense are wholly reserved to Westminster & the people of Scotland that elected SNP representatives wanted them to DO SOMETHING ABOUT GAZA - Me included.
      Oh & btw, the SNP were waiting to vote FOR the Labour Amendment in the Aye Lobby when it was passed in the House without calling for a Division.

  • @jackdixon4105
    @jackdixon4105 3 місяці тому +957

    I don’t know how anyone wants to vote for Starmer regardless of what the Tories have done. What Starmer has done and facilitated whilst not even in power is dictatorial and absolutely terrifying.

    • @fourpointthreefive
      @fourpointthreefive 3 місяці тому +33

      Because what the Tories have done is even more vile! Better of 2 evils

    • @bradw8102
      @bradw8102 3 місяці тому +76

      In this country many votes are for "the least worst". To change this we need to abolish FPTP in favour of PR.

    • @sueyourself5413
      @sueyourself5413 3 місяці тому +38

      @@fourpointthreefiveNope, that's not how it works. They have to win my vote.
      And is it better?
      What exactly have they pledged to do?

    • @Richard-fp1mk
      @Richard-fp1mk 3 місяці тому +67

      Both are not worth voting for

    • @darrylsugg7230
      @darrylsugg7230 3 місяці тому +4

      ​@@fourpointthreefivewho would you vote for out of Rishi Sunak (Con) and Nigel Farage (Ref)?

  • @headgirlblues
    @headgirlblues 3 місяці тому +856

    The removal of Sky's interview with Starmer where he states that he had spoken with the Israeli PM prior to the vote in Parliament speaks volumes, too.

    • @sirmeowthelibrarycat
      @sirmeowthelibrarycat 3 місяці тому +70

      😠 It was Isaac Herzog, President of I....L who the Glitter Man phoned before the vote on the Scottish National Party motion in the House of Commons . . . 😡!

    • @headgirlblues
      @headgirlblues 3 місяці тому +31

      @@sirmeowthelibrarycat Thanks - that was it. Wag the Dog or what....

    • @MrJwgh
      @MrJwgh 3 місяці тому

      The same reason the the media has a mass sanctification of the neo-natzi islamaphobic Navalny@@headgirlblues

    • @I_-_O._.O_-_P_-_Y
      @I_-_O._.O_-_P_-_Y 3 місяці тому +79

      In the Sky interview Starmer admitted he spoke to one of the politicians cited as making genocidal statements during the ICJ hearing before the vote. Sky subsequently deleted the Starmer interview from their social media, probably under pressure by Starmer and his team. Fortunately people clipped it before they could memory hole it.

    • @user-em3vl6li5w
      @user-em3vl6li5w 3 місяці тому

      Anybody but Starmer. Seriously what will be the difference. At 76 my conscience my won’t let me vote for Starmer, he is the most untrustworthy man in politics. A Charlatan of the first order. Starmer allies himself with Netanyahu, he allies himself with racism.

  • @GeriStorm
    @GeriStorm 3 місяці тому +187

    I marched with Orthodox Jews Muslims and christians on the free Palestine 🇵🇸 march when thugs were at the Cenotaph! I a 68 year old white woman was allowed to hold the big flag as we marched . Everyone on the march were just so lovely children showed me their drawing asking for a cease fire ! These leaders of the two parties in government don’t have the moral courage these little children have let alone the grown ups on that march! I am so ashamed of this government and labour! It teaches us who had the power it’s not the people of this country that’s for sure!

    • @lifeevent88
      @lifeevent88 2 місяці тому +1

      Get a life!

    • @safi456
      @safi456 2 місяці тому +5

      Very well said. Thank you

    • @zofiarosenwerth2007
      @zofiarosenwerth2007 2 місяці тому +6

      ​@@lifeevent88loser

    • @stephenthomas3085
      @stephenthomas3085 2 місяці тому +1

      @@lifeevent88 Startlingly unoriginal and daft thing to write, well done you.

    • @nickxcore74
      @nickxcore74 2 місяці тому +2

      @@lifeevent88Congratulations, you’ve been awarded a gold star 🌟 for posting the dumbest comment in this thread. Well done (slow clap) 😊

  • @paulgibbons2320
    @paulgibbons2320 3 місяці тому +232

    Tony Blair broke the county's back.
    Labour should never be forgiven for that man.

    • @williamboulby1461
      @williamboulby1461 3 місяці тому

      Thatcher broke this country's back, THAT is what should never be forgiven.

    • @earnestequivocation6250
      @earnestequivocation6250 3 місяці тому +1

      Not clear.

    • @paulgibbons2320
      @paulgibbons2320 3 місяці тому +18

      @@earnestequivocation6250 100% accurate and crystal clear.

    • @Shybairnsgetnowt1
      @Shybairnsgetnowt1 3 місяці тому

      Explain how Tony Blair broke the country’s back, rather than the Tories who absolutely DESTROYED the country with their so called ‘austerity’ policies.

    • @Rick-sanches1
      @Rick-sanches1 2 місяці тому

      Could vote tory and finally get an elected govenment for the first time in 8 years.

  • @basfinnis
    @basfinnis 3 місяці тому +493

    Peter is 100% right on this.
    It's maddening that these politicians are allowed to get away with this.

    • @rosebud2222
      @rosebud2222 3 місяці тому

      @basfinnis The whole world is under Martial Law,they know who they are,where they are and what they did,there is nowhere to run and nowhere to hide.

    • @davidbarlow350
      @davidbarlow350 3 місяці тому +6

      He's 100% wrong,misinformed and completely ignorant in his middleclass bubble.
      "Plot to forcefully take over the UK exposed"
      Rotten Politics YT
      Educate yourself.

    • @britnatzaredemocracydenier5922
      @britnatzaredemocracydenier5922 3 місяці тому +18

      ​@@davidbarlow350lmao no debunking just an upset but hurt child raging online

    • @johncobourne361
      @johncobourne361 3 місяці тому

      ​@@davidbarlow350. Exposed? I thought I'd missed something, but no. Nothing has happened, nothing.
      The speaker, the opposition, and the government have disgraced themselves. For "unknown" reasons, it seems.

    • @mysteriousfox88
      @mysteriousfox88 3 місяці тому +1

      vague outrage over non specific issues

  • @davidwebb4904
    @davidwebb4904 3 місяці тому +308

    The two party system, when both sides are absolute corrupt, thats the problem right there…

    • @lw1zfog
      @lw1zfog 3 місяці тому +17

      The City of London freemasonic ‘square mile’ owns & operates all qualifying teams.

    • @DJWESG1
      @DJWESG1 3 місяці тому +2

      Read Beck 'risk society' he explains that's its a 'one and half party system' and shows how it manifests.

    • @mandypeters8082
      @mandypeters8082 3 місяці тому +4

      Do we all need to spoil our votes so they have to start again?

    • @Stormer-Europa
      @Stormer-Europa 3 місяці тому +1

      @@DJWESG1 Read The History Of Central Banking and the Enslavement of Mankind - Stephan Mitford Goodson

    • @BrazenBull91
      @BrazenBull91 3 місяці тому +6

      If you'll play a game rigged against you, what do you expect?
      Stop reading books about taking action and take some action.

  • @janllh24
    @janllh24 3 місяці тому +151

    As a non Muslim who was mistaken as one (presumably because I'm a bearded PoC) by an outraged gammon outside the vandalized offices of my local Labour MP, who repeatedly asked me to justify my presence in the street, before informing me that 'your kind shouldn't bite the hand that feeds', I can attest to the real world consequences of such inflammatory rhetoric.

    • @thatsjustprime8096
      @thatsjustprime8096 3 місяці тому

      Bigot much?

    • @soundmindproject1266
      @soundmindproject1266 3 місяці тому +7

      What do you mean by gammon? It sounds offensive.

    • @janllh24
      @janllh24 2 місяці тому +6

      @@soundmindproject1266 I realise that, but unfortunately it fits. However, it's best not to traffic in stereotypes

    • @soundmindproject1266
      @soundmindproject1266 2 місяці тому +4

      @@janllh24 it fits if you mean to be offensive, yes.

    • @SG-wx8zm
      @SG-wx8zm 2 місяці тому +6

      So your response to that is to use more offensive racial slurs? Nice one. Way to go.

  • @ACHUNDOI
    @ACHUNDOI 3 місяці тому +30

    Hoyle is a despicable person.I hope the SNP can remove him A.S.A.P.

  • @charlievernon4064
    @charlievernon4064 3 місяці тому +416

    Absolutely spot on Peter and Lindsey Hoyle is a disgrace.

    • @lervish1966
      @lervish1966 3 місяці тому +2

      Would you like the UK to become Islamic?

    • @robkeeleycomposer
      @robkeeleycomposer 3 місяці тому

      Peter, who used to be an intelligent man, and his applauding seals are utterly blind. @@lervish1966

    • @johncobourne361
      @johncobourne361 3 місяці тому +34

      ​@@lervish1966. You don't become a Muslim country by going on peace marches. What is wrong with people?

    • @naturesound8660
      @naturesound8660 3 місяці тому

      @@lervish1966
      What is wrong with Muslims? They are part of the U.K.

    • @lervish1966
      @lervish1966 3 місяці тому

      @@johncobourne361 Do you support the Islamic suppression of women?

  • @macbitz
    @macbitz 3 місяці тому +650

    These people know full well that pro-Palestine does NOT mean pro-Hamas or even anti-Israel. Wanting an end to the killing of innocent civilians, on both sides, is a basic expression of human decency.

    • @judithhope8970
      @judithhope8970 3 місяці тому +27

      Absolutely!

    • @fuzielectron5172
      @fuzielectron5172 3 місяці тому +11

      Makes no odds, they will repeat the early 2000's alienating all support for Islam, it's even more obvious and appealing this time round.

    • @fuzielectron5172
      @fuzielectron5172 3 місяці тому

      An no I'm not Muslim or Anti Semite just a person watching this ongoing situation for decades as they manipulate us ....

    • @kennymacdonald5313
      @kennymacdonald5313 3 місяці тому +4

      And pigs can fly

    • @fuzielectron5172
      @fuzielectron5172 3 місяці тому +13

      Interesting how my second comment appears to have disappeared!
      A innocuous statement advising I'm nether Muslim or Anti Semite, seems harmless enough, but apparently doesn't fit the narrative

  • @lynnewilkins3953
    @lynnewilkins3953 2 місяці тому +36

    Thank you SO much, Peter, for articulating so well the bile, bigotry and downright bloody CRUELTY of our politicians. MPs are supposed to work together for the NEEDS of their respective CONSTITUENTS - their job is NOT to work together merely to fulfill their OWN self-absorbed, narrow minded needs! Our whole political system needs to change - for the good of the PEOPLE ❤

  • @andyhughes8433
    @andyhughes8433 3 місяці тому +43

    How do we end up with a House speaker who is part of friends of Israel?

  • @Titus9508
    @Titus9508 3 місяці тому +421

    For me one event stands out, what the hell is Starmer doing speaking to the President of the foreign nation under discussion in Parliament - moments before the motion is raised. I'm an old fashioned international Socialist and this action is rotten to the core.

    • @mak5963
      @mak5963 3 місяці тому +17

      👍🏻

    • @sirmeowthelibrarycat
      @sirmeowthelibrarycat 3 місяці тому +25

      😠 I am with you as a humanist 💐and Socialist 🕊!

    • @KCRaz2020
      @KCRaz2020 3 місяці тому +15

      I agree 💯

    • @luisbustamante9869
      @luisbustamante9869 3 місяці тому +37

      He was just taking instruction from his bosses. He's been doing this for a while now. Just look at his track record.

    • @sctrh2
      @sctrh2 3 місяці тому

      Yep. And if we're any other nation over any other issue the Tories and the press would be up in arms and calling it treason. Which means they are ALL treasonous.

  • @YourBeingParanoid
    @YourBeingParanoid 3 місяці тому +318

    As a Tory party hater - I'm terrified when I consider the evil that Labour will do with a large majority.

    • @clarecanteh3154
      @clarecanteh3154 3 місяці тому +18

      Absolutely. Me too

    • @deedeepuffs951
      @deedeepuffs951 3 місяці тому +22

      Even worse, Labour has a small majority and joins with Conservative to create one big unholy alliance. The UK better start praying.

    • @Usetheforce4321
      @Usetheforce4321 3 місяці тому +3

      Same

    • @532bluepeter1
      @532bluepeter1 3 місяці тому +16

      We need proportional representation to reduce the abuse of power by the duopoly.

    • @532bluepeter1
      @532bluepeter1 3 місяці тому +5

      @@deedeepuffs951That would never happen. More likely Labour would ally with and shaft the Liberals.

  • @aunalisadikot9541
    @aunalisadikot9541 3 місяці тому +28

    Mr. Oborne you are one of the few journalists who has dared to speak the truth. I have been a life long labour supporter, now I will vote neither for Labour or Tories.

  • @msa385
    @msa385 3 місяці тому +575

    As a law abiding UK Muslim who has nothing but served the UK society for over half a century, the past few weeks have brought incredible fear and anguish. This has shamefully been exacerbated by the opportunistic politicians who are actually guilty of Genocide in Gaza and want to see breakdown of social order in the UK to benefit their political careers. The UK public needs to wake up.

    • @wfifa199
      @wfifa199 3 місяці тому

      I think the public has woken up. A recent poll showed over 70% of the UK public want a ceasefire in Gaza. It is the politicians that need to wake up. They are behind the curve. The public understands the true nature of what they are seeing on the news each night

    • @waqaskhakid6158
      @waqaskhakid6158 3 місяці тому

      They owned by the Zionists

    • @greatcaledonianpenicillin5378
      @greatcaledonianpenicillin5378 3 місяці тому +40

      I think it's us Muslims that have to wake up. The UK will never truly be our country nor will we ever be welcome here. Even if you were born here it doesn't make a difference and I don't see the tides turning. I'll be leaving the UK as soon as I can. Just let it sink.

    • @drcheekyisback
      @drcheekyisback 3 місяці тому +27

      @@greatcaledonianpenicillin5378how about you all wake up and unite, not take flight. Keep the faith my man, the fear of British people - and indeed the world - against Muslims is the irrational fear of an ordered society.

    • @themuslimmountainbiker
      @themuslimmountainbiker 3 місяці тому +21

      ​@@greatcaledonianpenicillin5378💯...you are totally right. Wow.....I had a strong feeling things would worsen in the UK for Muslims when I left with my wife and kids from my birth city of London 5 years ago....but didn't think it would get this bad. So very glad to not be living in the UK anymore. Too much hate and prejudice towards Muslims. It is madness for any Muslims to live there imo. When I visited 2 years ago I felt uneasy going outside and felt much more at ease once I left again. The 80s and 90s were quite nice and so was Uni. Things have plummeted in the last deacde.

  • @tarlkoroban3733
    @tarlkoroban3733 3 місяці тому +208

    When someone like Liz Truss can make it to the top of British politics, you know the country is in a death spiral.

    • @oldsunshine1505
      @oldsunshine1505 3 місяці тому +14

      Very very well said

    • @joany531
      @joany531 3 місяці тому +13

      It was Johnson with me

    • @nicholasdickens2801
      @nicholasdickens2801 3 місяці тому +6

      It is not in a death spiral it is dead Jim.

    • @stevenvater8720
      @stevenvater8720 2 місяці тому +6

      Ha wait till flip flop starmer get in, you'll change your mind.

    • @MicheleLLOYD-bk2mt
      @MicheleLLOYD-bk2mt 2 місяці тому

      OR the tolerance by most Brits of the post office scandal……. NOT quite the decent society faked by many for generations……

  • @1292liam
    @1292liam 3 місяці тому +5

    Liz Truss and Steve Bannon talking - Im surprised the Devil didn't appear, to join in the "Conversation"

  • @johnnicolson467
    @johnnicolson467 3 місяці тому +353

    Yet another reason for Scotland to leave the UK, we should pull all the Scottish MPs out of Westminster.

    • @lervish1966
      @lervish1966 3 місяці тому +7

      Would you like Scotland to become Islamic?

    • @ianmccuaig9867
      @ianmccuaig9867 3 місяці тому

      @@lervish1966you mean would we like England and there political leaders stirring up trouble and promoting hate stop this massacre maybe it would stop the boats if others stopped destroying there cities and thieving there homes not to mention killing generations and killing thousands children

    • @alamo134
      @alamo134 3 місяці тому +38

      @@lervish1966 well considering their Judeo-Christian is so putrid to even support the Palestinian genocide, I might consider it. Of course, I hope for democracy where religion doesn't overrule the power of government, but I find Islamic to be better values if it really means to stop Israel.

    • @grahamhireme9283
      @grahamhireme9283 3 місяці тому +29

      lervish1966 Do you know anything of the Muslim population in Scotland? I do and many of the younger generation are more Scottish than the Celts and do you know why?

    • @FRIDAY8BALL
      @FRIDAY8BALL 3 місяці тому +26

      As much as I would like Scotland to remain part of the Union, its completely understandable.

  • @android65mar
    @android65mar 3 місяці тому +114

    The gaslighting and properganda is getting so dangerous right now!

    • @joany531
      @joany531 3 місяці тому

      Israel opens there mouth its a lie, just like the english government

    • @davesmith826
      @davesmith826 2 місяці тому

      I particularly enjoyed Nigel Farage's piece. He's married to a German, carries a French surname, and says without a shred of irony that 'we have been building for a thousand years'. Which we, Nigel? The original inhabitants of this island heralded from the Basque region of Spain. The UK has been colonised and occupied by Romans, Normans, and a motley collection of Scandinavians since then. There were more wars *between* the people of the British Isles than between them and other nations for much of the medieval era. There is no such thing as a single 'Britain' or 'UK'. The UK, in fact, only came into being in 1801, and it only lasted a little over a hundred years after Ireland ceded in 1922.

  • @Sidi.mohamed4
    @Sidi.mohamed4 3 місяці тому +18

    We didn't know we were scaring you To this degree
    Thanks 🙏
    Long live free and independent Palestine 🇵🇸

  • @afzalali8787
    @afzalali8787 3 місяці тому +19

    As British Citizen Who Is A Muslim, I Have Faith In My Fellow UK Country men & women. They Can Try To Divide Us, But Will Fail. The Common Man & Women Know Those In Power Are Trying To Turn Us Against Each Other. Our Eyes Are Wide Open.

  • @glenysbrazier4677
    @glenysbrazier4677 3 місяці тому +360

    I went on my very first protest in late October 2023.. I’m 72 years old.. I went on my own not knowing anyone around me.. I had to show my disgust at what Israel is doing to the Palestinians.. I’ve marched weekly ever since.. and will do so till we stop the killing in Gaza..I’ve never been political.. but I’m learning about Israel/Palestinian conflict over the years.. I never knew.. to my shame.. I never knew any Muslims until more recently there has never been any antisemitism or hate shown on any of the marches I’ve been on.. lots of kindness and heartfelt solidarity with Palestine.. we the ordinary people of the world want this genocide stopped.. and Freedom for All Palestinians.. no more occupation in Gaza.. The politicians to wake up.. do our bidding as they are paid to do.. END THE SUFFERING OF PALESTINIANS, CEASEFIRE NOW PERMANENTLY

    • @joegunner1702
      @joegunner1702 3 місяці тому +34

      Agree with you 100%. I've been to the marches, and it was absolutely great to see people from all backgrounds, white, black, Arabs Jewish, French Italians, and many other nationalities, also people from deaf community.. it was nothing but love and compassion.

    • @lorr7524
      @lorr7524 3 місяці тому +14

      If I had written my thoughts and opinions this would be it
      A white aethiest woman who loves good people

    • @koolerboy2
      @koolerboy2 3 місяці тому +16

      Many of us are fed up and dissolutioned with what's going on with the day arfter day killings in Palestine , you are not alone 😢

    • @lastcosmic
      @lastcosmic 2 місяці тому +7

    • @shirazjessa904
      @shirazjessa904 2 місяці тому +1

      Sunak n those politicians who support Zionism are out of touch with public n main media are supporting the suffering of Palestine toying the line of Isreal n we all know they tell lies n more lies Media is supporting them that is why nobody believes them

  • @kathrynhayman5758
    @kathrynhayman5758 3 місяці тому +46

    This is the politics of fascism, Germany in the 1930s

  • @bigbong620
    @bigbong620 3 місяці тому +6

    Peter Oborne, one of the few journalists worthy of the name.

  • @user-fq4sy9cc2o
    @user-fq4sy9cc2o 3 місяці тому +12

    Where is the government of the people, by the people, for the people. The current lot at Westminster have gone rogue, but this has been happening for decades. As Erich Fromm says: I paraphrase, if we pick the least worst option when we vote, we still end up in the same place eventually. Wake up Scotland!

  • @splatten8597
    @splatten8597 3 місяці тому +45

    What democracy?

  • @cobbler40
    @cobbler40 3 місяці тому +41

    I don’t watch GB news or TalkTV so hadn’t realised how far this had gone.

    • @jake751
      @jake751 3 місяці тому

      Don't worry 99%of people don't watch that far right rubbish.

    • @user-ed7et3pb4o
      @user-ed7et3pb4o 3 місяці тому +6

      That's because you're a sane and well-adjusted individual with a working conscience.

    • @ifcukin8mufc168
      @ifcukin8mufc168 Місяць тому

      Maybe you should .. You might get a girlfriend !

  • @hassanahmed1755
    @hassanahmed1755 3 місяці тому +39

    I am a British born from British mother and Egyptian father, lived in Egypt for 17 years since I was 2 years old, and experienced the dictatorship of Mubarak era, and when I came back to UK, I genuinely thought I would experience something I didn't experience in Egypt, which fairness and freedom, and the very basic rights. Damn! Was I wrong?
    The more I live in the UK, the more I learned that the corruption, inequalities, and the criminality of this state are beyond what I experienced in Egypt. At least in Egypt, people some who were looking up for each other, while in this fxxked up country the hatred, and division between people is far beyond and extreme especially when the administration is supporting, and arming crimes, where I know I have no choise but to be aware that my Tax if funding this shit, and on the top of that this fxxin administration serve only certian category of people!
    I have never been ashamed to be british than now.
    The anger and the depression this administration has caused me in beyond comprehension!
    I have now left with witnessing a genocide fold in front of my eyes and experience the frustration that I can do nothing to help. Or even avoid thinking about it.
    It really changes the way I see life in general. Sometimes, I think what the fxxkin of point being a life among the world that watch criminality and spend all their resources to justify, support it, and even attack those who speak out.
    I really lost all hope and pleasure to look forward to the future in a more optimistic way as I used to be. How I can I wash out the thoughts in my brain from what I have witnessed from the last 5 months?!!!
    I have witnessed the worst of humanity at it lowest.
    Imagine 2.3 million having the most powerful nations on the earth against them, even those supposed to be their brother, stand watching and do nothing.
    I wake up with more depression every day. Food doesn’t even taste the same, or a sort of pleasure doesn't exist anymore.
    And I wonder if those in power are even human like us! I fxxkin doubt it.

    • @josephinehill3207
      @josephinehill3207 2 місяці тому +7

      You and many more thousands feel exactly the same @hassanahmed1755
      Our government is taking our taxes and spending a good portion of it in ways taxpayers do not want. The only way we can have any say in this is to stop paying our taxes but to get everyone to agree to that wouldn't be possible.

    • @hassanahmed1755
      @hassanahmed1755 2 місяці тому +5

      @josephinehill3207 Unfortunately, apart from the impossibility of gathering everyone around such action, all our money is in Banks, and they can easily issue law to freeze accounts and withdraw what they wish.
      They will deal with it exactly the sameway as debts collector, waring after warning the then take your assets regardless which form is your assets, whether cash in banks or things you own.
      But there are other possible solutions

    • @safi456
      @safi456 2 місяці тому

      ​@@hassanahmed1755I feel your pain. As a Muslim, we are not supposed to live in non Muslim lands precisely because our hard work funds their demonic agendas. The west is fully controlled by Zionists and all these so-called leaders are merely puppets. The noose of the Dajjal is tightening and they will do to us what they did to the Bosnians. That is why I've decided to leave this country and make hijrah. I pray that Allah guides all of us and protects us from what is coming.

  • @monimojumdar6228
    @monimojumdar6228 3 місяці тому +9

    Thank you so much Peter for speaking the truth,

  • @timdale4500
    @timdale4500 3 місяці тому +7

    👏🏻this says it how it is, bang on Peter and Double Down News

  • @megashot
    @megashot 3 місяці тому +98

    When they've dehumanised the Palestine people then they can also dehumanise anyone that say ceasefire.

    • @Sidi.mohamed4
      @Sidi.mohamed4 3 місяці тому +4

      No one can strip us of our humanity Our enemies are those who have been stripped of their humanity

    • @caloriebuddy
      @caloriebuddy 3 місяці тому

      western people have merely dehumanised themselves in the rest of our eyes. and that includes Oborne and most of 'the left' - only Tony green stein, Chris Williamson etc are actually human to me

    • @perle13930
      @perle13930 3 місяці тому

      YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. FROM FRANCE THE PALESTINIANS AND MUSLIMS ABSOLUTELY DETEST US ALL!!!!! WAIT UNTIL THEY ATTACK YOU , YOU WILL AT SOME POINT SEE.

    • @NoobRideseMTB
      @NoobRideseMTB 3 місяці тому

      True.
      People believe that the behaviours our leaders allow to strangers in foreign lands won’t be dished out to them also.
      The connection is the ‘stranger’ aspect, we are just strangers to our leaders. They care no more for their citizens than they do the foreigners they permit murder of - aside from our vote

  • @riversguy92
    @riversguy92 3 місяці тому +205

    Lindsay Hoyle’s argument makes no sense. Extremists decided to not attack labour mp’s because they didn’t vote for the snp’s motion for an immediate ceasefire, as opposed to voting for labour’s more mealy mouthed version with caveats?! And everyone just ran with that uncritically.
    Insane

    • @indigoskywalker
      @indigoskywalker 3 місяці тому +6

      It was planned, they have been working on this for a few weeks, this wasn't hatched in 10 minutes

    • @jameshodgkins559
      @jameshodgkins559 3 місяці тому

      Fake democracy at its finest

    • @jameshodgkins559
      @jameshodgkins559 3 місяці тому

      Corruption in the corridors of apparent democracy

    • @reasontruthandlogic
      @reasontruthandlogic 3 місяці тому +1

      I suspect I agree with you, but your comment was very hard to understand.

    • @riversguy92
      @riversguy92 3 місяці тому +14

      @@reasontruthandlogic apologies, I didn’t word it in a completely coherent fashion I guess.
      If you were an extremist who was threatening members of parliament with the aim of forcing them to apply pressure to Israel then why would you be opposed to them voting for the more unequivocal, straightforward motion of immediate ceasefire ( the snp’s) rather than labour’s amendment which had more ts and cs that Hamas would be required to meet before Israel would consider stopping the mass slaughter?
      If you were intending to physically harm somebody due to your extremist views why would an opposition day motion in the HoC register in your thoughts whatsoever? Wouldn’t you just do it, regardless of the vote?
      It’s bullshit, and stands up to no scrutiny at all. Labour MPs were apparently in danger, but only if they didn’t get to vote for a labour amendment. We’re expected to just take that at face value.

  • @radboo4384
    @radboo4384 3 місяці тому +8

    Starmer is a monster

  • @neoplato-qe7lz
    @neoplato-qe7lz 3 місяці тому +6

    Thank you for this enlightning discussion on British Islamophobia by the politicians.

  • @Greebstreebling
    @Greebstreebling 3 місяці тому +200

    I've written to Starmer and Lindsay Hoyle to ask where is the evidence to support their assertions, but over 60 years, one thing I've learnt about politicians is that they are excellent at not answering the question. I won't be voting for any party that has not called for a ceasefire in plain English.

    • @jeanyves651
      @jeanyves651 3 місяці тому +10

      UK Green Party "UK govt must call for an immediate ceasefire, & take action against 🇮🇱govt of Netanyahu"

    • @adawg9533
      @adawg9533 3 місяці тому

      Hoyle's dad started labour friends of israel all politicians are wickedly and inherently evil. Just like most Europeans

    • @caloriebuddy
      @caloriebuddy 3 місяці тому

      a white racist and an estate agent tried to steal 15,000 pounds to me. Thanks to Corbyn I was able to make my own MP cause the thieves to give the money back
      moral is - you need Corbyn or some other genuinely sincere MP. one of my friends is a godson of a monty python and a good writer. in the long run I'll give him all my juicy data to publish and write about for you all. so much of it. even intel agencies revealing they put me on a death list in 2014 because I was about to cause Corbyn, but fortunately for Corbyn others intervened immediately

    • @djmastergroove946
      @djmastergroove946 3 місяці тому +1

      Reform then vote 🗳 🇬🇧✊🏻

    • @adawg9533
      @adawg9533 3 місяці тому

      @@djmastergroove946 Fuck off with your reform party ya banger!

  • @alanrumble7238
    @alanrumble7238 3 місяці тому +114

    Peaceful protest around MP's is not the same as threats. You are absolutely correct Peter.

  • @Sponge-bob-square-thaub
    @Sponge-bob-square-thaub 3 місяці тому +30

    Starmer is supposedly a human rights lawyer.
    So far he has shown that he's a politician for the highest bidder.

    • @nataliawalker4184
      @nataliawalker4184 2 місяці тому

      Must have bought his degree or plagiarised all the way through his studies otherwise you cannot explain the most common sense to others but not to Starner things he spitting out his mouth. I don’t know who will bring over themselves to vote for him

    • @safi456
      @safi456 2 місяці тому

      A lawyer who refused to make a case against Jimmy Saville. He's been on the dark side for a long time now.

  • @gedofgont1006
    @gedofgont1006 2 місяці тому +3

    I was going to try and offer an intelligent critique, on the substance of this video, but plenty of others have already done so.
    Instead I'll leave you with this thought. It's 5.55am, here in England. I'm currently luxuriating in a hot bath, having just successfully passed an early day motion of my own.
    And I didn't need a speaker to intervene on my behalf!
    Take care, ladies and gents.❤

  • @mohammedseyam1648
    @mohammedseyam1648 3 місяці тому +2

    Thank you for shedding light on this topic. It’s imperative to the British public to understand these manipulative statements by politicians. Please keep educating

  • @onepom63
    @onepom63 3 місяці тому +35

    From Australia well said..Free Assange..

  • @johnrey4206
    @johnrey4206 2 місяці тому +1

    It's about time someone spoke up about the way we are being manipulated.

  • @MarkJVSomers
    @MarkJVSomers 3 місяці тому +5

    The real threat to democracy everywhere, is extreme wealth vs extreme poverty, as is documented in a very understandable way by Brian Cox in his documentary.

  • @Laou41
    @Laou41 3 місяці тому +32

    Fascism here we go!

  • @javed1331
    @javed1331 3 місяці тому +46

    God bless you Peter for speaking the truth!❤️🤲🏻🌹🇬🇧

  • @grahampovey8073
    @grahampovey8073 3 місяці тому +4

    MP's major concern should be the safety of THE PUBLIC!.....They serve and represent US we do not serve THEM!....the only protection THEY should need is their owm personal integrity and acknowledgement of their duty of service to THE PEOPLE!....unless, of course, they do not have any.

  • @jimorr5580
    @jimorr5580 3 місяці тому +31

    It comes from the Apartheid regime of Israel Lobbyists

  • @robertgoulty395
    @robertgoulty395 3 місяці тому +60

    The Parliamentary system in the UK absolutely stinks. Just imagine Mr Keir Starmer, Wes Streeting and David Lammy sharing a house next door to you followed by Raynor and Lisa Nandy sharing a house on the other side with Margaret Hodge and Thornberry living directly across the road...the stench would be unbearable...

  • @joegunner1702
    @joegunner1702 3 місяці тому +11

    Thank you Peter for speaking the truth. Met him the other day lovely guy.

  • @DizGuys
    @DizGuys 3 місяці тому +7

    100% correct...I've been trying to convey this to others, but the mass hysteria is too overwhelming...and God help us if Labour get in.

  • @davidyeates5636
    @davidyeates5636 3 місяці тому +45

    Thank goodness for Peter Oborne's articulate truth. Where is the rest of the media? What are their jobs?

  • @jimshelley8831
    @jimshelley8831 3 місяці тому +22

    I applaud Peter Oborne.

  • @yvonnepereira9249
    @yvonnepereira9249 3 місяці тому +9

    For years the Palestinians were living a life unlike our own with the Israelis directing their every move. Did anyone know how bad the situation was until after the 7th of October, when Israel showed all its colours.

  • @wighty5434
    @wighty5434 3 місяці тому +10

    Peter Oborne has given a very competent and knowledgeable commentary.

  • @MaxwellGravelle
    @MaxwellGravelle 3 місяці тому +33

    I find it so astounding how fractured the UK has become. The constant othering of different peoples from MPs makes me worried for the future. At least Scottish MPs seem to hold the house to account.

  • @oldschool3670
    @oldschool3670 3 місяці тому +29

    Sickening

  • @darkseed425
    @darkseed425 2 місяці тому +1

    Thank you for being brave enough not to go the way of our cowardly politicians.

  • @h_uddin1427
    @h_uddin1427 2 місяці тому +1

    Thank you for telling the truth

  • @breakingbadheisenberg9703
    @breakingbadheisenberg9703 3 місяці тому +21

    CPAC ? where's America's craziest go for victimhood & grievances.

    • @robkeeleycomposer
      @robkeeleycomposer 3 місяці тому

      Of course that never ever happens on the Left, does it. Open your eyes.

  • @megalewy19
    @megalewy19 2 місяці тому +1

    Respect for the truth 💯

  • @chaffaitekfi686
    @chaffaitekfi686 3 місяці тому +3

    Thank you for your honesty and sincerity.

  • @ErdenTeoman
    @ErdenTeoman 3 місяці тому +13

    Amazing and factual journalism! Refreshing to hear the truth for a change. Thank You! Both party's are disgraceful so is the Speaker. I never thought I would agree with the SNP but here we are.

  • @pallascat1743
    @pallascat1743 3 місяці тому +6

    Inching ever closer to fascism.

  • @LornaNicholson-uv6js
    @LornaNicholson-uv6js 3 місяці тому +4

    It’s such a shame that newsnight has deteriorated so much. Thi is the kind of stuff that should be on there. We now have provocative Vox pops and he said she said with zero analysis of democratic traditions of protests which we are entitled to. Labour MSP Paul sweeeney said his staff were harassed. Why weren’t the police called and people charged then? Very poor tactics by Labour.

  • @user-vq8jt6xr1p
    @user-vq8jt6xr1p 27 днів тому

    If you threaten the state , the state will seek your life , keep up the good work Peter .

  • @Karlemids
    @Karlemids 3 місяці тому +8

    they're in full-psy-op mode.

  • @user-ui1df8ed1t
    @user-ui1df8ed1t 3 місяці тому +8

    The kids starver will never be prime minister.

  • @Incywincey
    @Incywincey 2 місяці тому +2

    Couldn’t agree more. So well put! 👍

  • @shaheenazam2057
    @shaheenazam2057 3 місяці тому +1

    Please don't be afraid, you should be proud of your nation to be awakening.they are protesting against genocide, slaughtering and standing for humanity and peace. They're proving that they are great Nation

  • @farkenstein7995
    @farkenstein7995 3 місяці тому +9

    Remember when labour stood for the people?

  • @Rambobambo007
    @Rambobambo007 3 місяці тому +8

    The British Parliament has become a disgrace and a shame

  • @rukhsanachohan9779
    @rukhsanachohan9779 2 місяці тому +1

    Just subscribed to your channel. We need truthful and humane journalist like you.

  • @user-vw2jr4cg7g
    @user-vw2jr4cg7g 2 місяці тому

    Peter a real journalist who frightens the establishment! With You guess it the TRUTH

  • @tonyfoster5013
    @tonyfoster5013 3 місяці тому +8

    Very well analysed. Thank you.

  • @BabelSongs
    @BabelSongs 3 місяці тому +11

    I suspect MPs are more under threat from the Israel lobby than from protestors…. Not threats of direct violence, but of having their careers smashed. We have seen this happen over and over again. Starmer doesn’t even need to hear threats to know what will happen to him if Labour supports the rights of Palestinians in Gaza. Because he’s seen it happen to the party before

  • @acobbongcarawan7975
    @acobbongcarawan7975 28 днів тому

    God bless the DDN host for his right & just view.

  • @pieinher67
    @pieinher67 2 місяці тому +1

    That display was so telling for the rest of us. The way they all fell into line. The way they all knew the falsehood of the moment and each one of the creatures did their bit. On one level it was almost complex. But overall it was desperatley sad to see grown up people hiding behind a flimsy fib ..like children hiding behind a single blade of grass expecting not to be discovered. Personally I will remember every one of them.

  • @lost_boy
    @lost_boy 3 місяці тому +12

    Thank you, Peter & DDN. Free Palestine 🇵🇸

  • @salehothman449
    @salehothman449 3 місяці тому +9

    14 years of pain in the ass..

    • @rogerwood4846
      @rogerwood4846 3 місяці тому

      join the alphabet mafia if you like a pain in the ass

  • @sanisiddiqui
    @sanisiddiqui 3 місяці тому +2

    Peter Oborne spot on as always

  • @user-jy8iv3ux2e
    @user-jy8iv3ux2e 3 місяці тому +64

    Man and woman don't want him neither did WE vote him in

    • @b00ts4ndc4ts
      @b00ts4ndc4ts 3 місяці тому +5

      You vote for the party not the person in the UK. People need to remember that the next time they cast there vote.

    • @melmorrison1400
      @melmorrison1400 3 місяці тому

      @@b00ts4ndc4tspeople need to realise if they vote labour or conservative. They’re voting for the same thing. Two cheeks of the arse

    • @melmorrison1400
      @melmorrison1400 3 місяці тому

      @@b00ts4ndc4tsactually people need to realise that if they vote for labour or conservatives they are voting for the same thing. Two cheeks of the same arse. And… both are puppets for much more powerful corporations.

    • @BrazenBull91
      @BrazenBull91 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@b00ts4ndc4tsbut that isn't true is it.

  • @zahraali3480
    @zahraali3480 3 місяці тому +1

    We really need people like yourself to speek the truth. Thankyou.

  • @jbjama9353
    @jbjama9353 3 місяці тому +8

    Most MP represent Israel

    • @valiantheart8891
      @valiantheart8891 3 місяці тому +1

      A lot of them have a business interest as we as a family ties with the state of Israel such as Cruella as well as Kier Starmer and many more.

  • @stevenamoah9849
    @stevenamoah9849 3 місяці тому +5

    It really Is dangerous

  • @g5aeed
    @g5aeed 3 місяці тому +1

    Thanks DDN. We’ll explained. That exactly what going on.

  • @jaywalker3087
    @jaywalker3087 3 місяці тому +5

    I went to the Greens from Labour as soon as Schtarmer usurped his place..
    It's the only Viable option left.

  • @johndyda5673
    @johndyda5673 3 місяці тому +16

    Here in North Wales, I think I'll be voting Plaid Cymru this time.

    • @rogerwood4846
      @rogerwood4846 3 місяці тому

      assuming you get to the polling station on time 20 mph isnt it

    • @johndyda5673
      @johndyda5673 3 місяці тому

      @@rogerwood4846Haha! They only say isn't it down south!

  • @antonystrong2558
    @antonystrong2558 3 місяці тому +4

    I just want an independent Scotland now

    • @jodawson5268
      @jodawson5268 2 місяці тому

      Well vote for Mr Salmond then
      The SNP have disgraced themselves.

  • @Mysticmimi7
    @Mysticmimi7 3 місяці тому +1

    Thank you for speaking up for the truth ❤

  • @RR79100
    @RR79100 3 місяці тому +8

    Spot on Peter. 100%

  • @3manification
    @3manification 3 місяці тому +2

    It will become chaos if British government keep doing this, all because Israeli lobbies.

  • @user-mc2sf2kt8q
    @user-mc2sf2kt8q 2 місяці тому +3

    It is a pity that soon, perhaps, there will be no English cities like Liverpool. I wanted to visit the homeland of John Lennon, who sang about peace.

  • @user-ip1vd6mk5h
    @user-ip1vd6mk5h 3 місяці тому +2

    Spot on Peter!! 👏👏👏👏

  • @muckle8
    @muckle8 2 місяці тому +1

    Sunak embracing Netanyahu makes me question humanity itself .

  • @gayharrison9901
    @gayharrison9901 2 місяці тому

    Well said Peter Oborne. A voice of reason among voices of hatred

  • @cookingmama164
    @cookingmama164 3 місяці тому +5

    God bless you for talking the truth
    They have no feeling for loss of innocents lives
    How are they blind to the truth

  • @adnansultan8458
    @adnansultan8458 2 місяці тому

    Thanks for your humanity and truths

  • @ebrimajallow3898
    @ebrimajallow3898 2 місяці тому +1

    You're a man of truth 🙏

  • @ozzymollyful
    @ozzymollyful 3 місяці тому +1

    Excellent video, thank you for some sanity in this madness