The first thing I replaced on my light Bee X was the rear fender. I don't know why these companies put an abbreviated rear fender on these bikes. Assuming it's a style choice. We get almost 50 inches of rain a year here and therefore have to ride in a lot of mud. I prefer the mud to end up on my fender not on my back
Good point. This bike should be coming with an updated longer seat (which will probably include a longer fender) in the near future. We have to agree, the long fenders on these small bikes are usually not a win in the style department, but would be nice to have a short/long option depending on the use case.
@@ElectricCycleRider I really want a review of that seat. I keep looking all over for one and nothing. Supposedly you can retrofit it to their other bikes and not just the SR
Sand track not exactly the typical off-road surface. Most dirt bikes are riding single track and mx. Would be great to see it tackle a bit of semi-hard enduro.
Could only do one lap at the average hare scramble course. Maybe 2 laps at the mid setting. These electric bikes have me interested but need to go 30miles
Thanks for review as well as addressing the issue with the front end. I'm guessing an aftermarket drop crown and beefier 21" front or 16" rear would be the most affordable fix. Hopefully all these manufacturers will improve their front end geometry without getting away too much from the basic concepts of the original LBX. Any plans to review the 3.0? Would be stoked to get your assessment on it. Cheers
The SR looks really promising. The Altis and SR are pushing into the mid-sized bike category with respect to weight and power I would like to see those bikes with the necessary suspension updates you mentioned compared to the Ultra Bee and other mid-sized bikes. Cross shopping those categories is getting a lot blurrier.
You said it, man! The former "lightweight" category is getting real blurry as these bikes encroach on the 200lb mark. It's been a flat-out power war between manufacturers lately, which is fun, but hopefully they all start addressing the more important elements of the bike: chassis and suspension. 👍
I like the fact that they concentrated on power u can only expect so much in suspension from a bike manufacture aftermarket companies need to step their game ,come out with some better suspension
The FastAce fork is actually a nice product and the 60lb spring spec'd on this bike is a good spring rate for most. It just feels like the bike is too high in the rear and that geometry put's a lot of weight on the front end. A drop crown triple clamp (which allows you to slide the fork tubes down and raise the front), a slightly longer fork (like a RFloxa 228mm or modified Sirris), 21" front wheel, or a combination of all of those things should improve it. It's nothing new, all of these bikes have had this issue to some degree or another, it just feels further emphasized the heavier and faster that these bikes get. Thanks for the question 👍
I'm about ready to try an electric snow bike for deep mountain riding. My plan is to put the bike, spare battery, and battery charging system in a tubsled and drag the whole shebang to a riding spot with a utility snowmobile. I'm trying to decide between a small bike like this or a full size Varg. I'm a big dude 6, 3 220 lbs and snow saps power like nothing else so I think I need the big bike. But the nimbleness and lightness of a small bike might be better in the steep and deep. What do you think?
If you're building a timbersled bike - you'll want all of that power that the Varg can put out. I've only ridden a snow bike with a 500cc powerplant and even that felt slow in the deep pow. The Varg doesn't have a swappable battery, so if that's what you're needing, then this would probably be a pretty fun (and different) Option #2. Just not sure how well it'll handle the stress and load of a track in the deep. Report back if you do!
I'm glad you said that about the front. I've been debating getting an electric bike mx type. I used to ride mx when younger and know that the front takes the brunt of the track impact. I was wondering how the electric bikes absorb that being so small with the speed. Needs a 125cc mx bike front or similar. About getting better range overall.....what if it had two 72v batteries. It runs off one at a time to get the 9 miles while having good response/power, but when it gets down to 50% it switches to the other battery. It doesn't lose power for another 9 miles. Then at 50% it switches to both batteries to keep power until the sucky 30% range. Just the additional weight of battery if designed right and the it's just controller programming.
Not at all! The Stark Varg has turning prowess that other manufacturers should be studying. That bike has great balance and "traditional" MX bike geometry. It's a completely different class of bike but it's one of the best turning bikes on the market, if not the best. These bikes are much smaller but could benefit from a shrunken down example of the balance and geometry of the Varg. As for off road trail riding, it's hard to beat a modded Ultra Bee at the moment.
@ElectricCycleRider wow. Thanks for that. I've had light bee x for a couple of years, it's been upgraded... Was really thinking about the eride SR... Pretty big price difference between the two... Any other deciding factors between The two, that justies going higher with the varg versus more economical (seemingly) eride SR?... Thanks again, your input is valuable
@@Aionionian Good question! The Varg and E Ride Pro SR are both fun but are worlds apart. The SR is still a play bike, just one that has gobs of power. The Varg is a true full size competitive MX bike that can hang with the upper echelon of motocross bikes. If you find yourself choosing your modded Light Bee over a full size bike though, which a lot of people are, then you may prefer the SR or even an Ultra Bee. A lot of people find that they have more fun on the smaller, lighter bikes. If that's the case for you, then the E Ride Pro (or similar) lineup may be the right call. If you want to split the difference, then a modded Ultra Bee is worth a look. Just depends on your preference!
@@ElectricCycleRider genius. Great input/advice. Personally, I'll probably lean towards the eride sr or an Ultra Bee modded... the Stark can be something I put my future vision on and keep becoming a better rider for the better bike when I've evolved 😉
I want to know what all the exact differences are between this SR bike and the SS 3.0 bike. All the specs and all the feature differences, what are they?
"9 miles" yeah the rear wheel spun to 9 miles... im not bashing the bike im bashing the lack of info. In the loose sand youre always spinning and your actually distance is a fraction of what the display says
Remember the horsepower wars of Japanese motorcycle manufacturers of the 90's Power numbers getting bigger each year with chassis/suspension lagging behind. Giving some bikes unfortunate nicknames. Do you thik it's happening in this space now?
E ride pro is dog shit ... Well what they are doing to the scene is dog shit.. the surron/ "freeRide" style bike is originally an ultra lightweight trail bike
*We need a Timed Lap comparison with a professional Rider and professional Track between the SR & Sigma.*
This vs Altis Sigma video please
We're on it!
@@ElectricCycleRider been looking for a good comparison video forever.
I would love to see SR vs Altis and some woods/trail riding :)
This is what I live for!
🙌
The first thing I replaced on my light Bee X was the rear fender. I don't know why these companies put an abbreviated rear fender on these bikes. Assuming it's a style choice. We get almost 50 inches of rain a year here and therefore have to ride in a lot of mud. I prefer the mud to end up on my fender not on my back
Good point. This bike should be coming with an updated longer seat (which will probably include a longer fender) in the near future. We have to agree, the long fenders on these small bikes are usually not a win in the style department, but would be nice to have a short/long option depending on the use case.
@@ElectricCycleRider I really want a review of that seat. I keep looking all over for one and nothing. Supposedly you can retrofit it to their other bikes and not just the SR
Sand track not exactly the typical off-road surface. Most dirt bikes are riding single track and mx. Would be great to see it tackle a bit of semi-hard enduro.
lol that thing would not be good on hard enduro. it will get clapped out quick!
January in Colorado... beggars can't be choosers!
@@21armyn That's why I SAID semi-hard enduro... Does anybody listen or read. anymore🙄😂
@@ElectricCycleRider I hear ya...
Could only do one lap at the average hare scramble course. Maybe 2 laps at the mid setting. These electric bikes have me interested but need to go 30miles
Thanks for review as well as addressing the issue with the front end. I'm guessing an aftermarket drop crown and beefier 21" front or 16" rear would be the most affordable fix. Hopefully all these manufacturers will improve their front end geometry without getting away too much from the basic concepts of the original LBX. Any plans to review the 3.0? Would be stoked to get your assessment on it. Cheers
The SR looks really promising. The Altis and SR are pushing into the mid-sized bike category with respect to weight and power I would like to see those bikes with the necessary suspension updates you mentioned compared to the Ultra Bee and other mid-sized bikes. Cross shopping those categories is getting a lot blurrier.
You said it, man! The former "lightweight" category is getting real blurry as these bikes encroach on the 200lb mark. It's been a flat-out power war between manufacturers lately, which is fun, but hopefully they all start addressing the more important elements of the bike: chassis and suspension. 👍
I like the fact that they concentrated on power u can only expect so much in suspension from a bike manufacture aftermarket companies need to step their game ,come out with some better suspension
Would heavier spring in the fork fix the issues?
The FastAce fork is actually a nice product and the 60lb spring spec'd on this bike is a good spring rate for most. It just feels like the bike is too high in the rear and that geometry put's a lot of weight on the front end. A drop crown triple clamp (which allows you to slide the fork tubes down and raise the front), a slightly longer fork (like a RFloxa 228mm or modified Sirris), 21" front wheel, or a combination of all of those things should improve it. It's nothing new, all of these bikes have had this issue to some degree or another, it just feels further emphasized the heavier and faster that these bikes get. Thanks for the question 👍
Thanks again for the review. 180lb? With mtn bike parts. Why?
Imagine this street legal 4 the price I'm sold lol
Same here
I'm about ready to try an electric snow bike for deep mountain riding. My plan is to put the bike, spare battery, and battery charging system in a tubsled and drag the whole shebang to a riding spot with a utility snowmobile. I'm trying to decide between a small bike like this or a full size Varg. I'm a big dude 6, 3 220 lbs and snow saps power like nothing else so I think I need the big bike. But the nimbleness and lightness of a small bike might be better in the steep and deep. What do you think?
If you're building a timbersled bike - you'll want all of that power that the Varg can put out. I've only ridden a snow bike with a 500cc powerplant and even that felt slow in the deep pow. The Varg doesn't have a swappable battery, so if that's what you're needing, then this would probably be a pretty fun (and different) Option #2. Just not sure how well it'll handle the stress and load of a track in the deep. Report back if you do!
I’d like to see if a warp 9 drop crown would fit.
You might see that sooner than most...
I'm glad you said that about the front. I've been debating getting an electric bike mx type. I used to ride mx when younger and know that the front takes the brunt of the track impact. I was wondering how the electric bikes absorb that being so small with the speed. Needs a 125cc mx bike front or similar. About getting better range overall.....what if it had two 72v batteries. It runs off one at a time to get the 9 miles while having good response/power, but when it gets down to 50% it switches to the other battery. It doesn't lose power for another 9 miles. Then at 50% it switches to both batteries to keep power until the sucky 30% range. Just the additional weight of battery if designed right and the it's just controller programming.
E Ride Pro SR vs surron ultra pls
hey! are you gonna review the 2025 ultra bee soon? has a ton of power now and a boat load of upgrades!
I truly believe one of these things would be better than a pedal ebike for hunting
Extra wide pegs are ADV style. Bike looks decently solid. Is it a dual sport style? Lights, etc. Can it be plated?
Does the Stark have that narrow front ended issue?.. what's your best recommendation for off road, trail use?... thanks
Not at all! The Stark Varg has turning prowess that other manufacturers should be studying. That bike has great balance and "traditional" MX bike geometry. It's a completely different class of bike but it's one of the best turning bikes on the market, if not the best. These bikes are much smaller but could benefit from a shrunken down example of the balance and geometry of the Varg. As for off road trail riding, it's hard to beat a modded Ultra Bee at the moment.
@ElectricCycleRider wow. Thanks for that. I've had light bee x for a couple of years, it's been upgraded... Was really thinking about the eride SR... Pretty big price difference between the two... Any other deciding factors between The two, that justies going higher with the varg versus more economical (seemingly) eride SR?... Thanks again, your input is valuable
I guess modded Ultra Should be seriously considered too
@@Aionionian Good question! The Varg and E Ride Pro SR are both fun but are worlds apart. The SR is still a play bike, just one that has gobs of power. The Varg is a true full size competitive MX bike that can hang with the upper echelon of motocross bikes. If you find yourself choosing your modded Light Bee over a full size bike though, which a lot of people are, then you may prefer the SR or even an Ultra Bee. A lot of people find that they have more fun on the smaller, lighter bikes. If that's the case for you, then the E Ride Pro (or similar) lineup may be the right call. If you want to split the difference, then a modded Ultra Bee is worth a look. Just depends on your preference!
@@ElectricCycleRider genius. Great input/advice. Personally, I'll probably lean towards the eride sr or an Ultra Bee modded... the Stark can be something I put my future vision on and keep becoming a better rider for the better bike when I've evolved 😉
Will the wheels from the SR fit on the 3.0?
Did you unlock max power inside the app before testing?
How much of a soaking for this?
A bit over $5K
I am curious on when EXT will make forks that will fit the new bikes that will work with the hubs and brakes? Talaria mx5, and the new E Rides!
I want to know what all the exact differences are between this SR bike and the SS 3.0 bike. All the specs and all the feature differences, what are they?
How is this bike compared to the 3.0?
Nice review. Where is this track? Can anyone ride here?
Trying to street test this
We want to see the SR race, the altis sigma.
that track is shot to sh*t!🤘😎
"9 miles" yeah the rear wheel spun to 9 miles... im not bashing the bike im bashing the lack of info. In the loose sand youre always spinning and your actually distance is a fraction of what the display says
Tracked the ride using GPS. Info is accurate.
@ Thanks for clarifying, im dumb mustve missed that
even my 3.0 is too fast
Thanks for calling it what it is: an electric dirt bike.
Remember the horsepower wars of Japanese motorcycle manufacturers of the 90's
Power numbers getting bigger each year with chassis/suspension lagging behind. Giving some bikes unfortunate nicknames.
Do you thik it's happening in this space now?
E ride pro is dog shit ... Well what they are doing to the scene is dog shit.. the surron/ "freeRide" style bike is originally an ultra lightweight trail bike