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Alito's Jan. 6 shame vs. Jack Smith's coup charges: How Trump could lose
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- Опубліковано 8 лип 2024
- The Supreme Court's immunity decision is facing its first test. The ruling granted Trump broad immunity in his federal coup case against Jack Smith for “official acts.” Judge Tanya Chutkan will now decide which allegations are immune from prosecution. MSNBC’s Katie Phang is joined by Politco’s Ankush Khardori and The Guardian’s Hugo Lowell. (Check out The Beat's playlist: msnbc.com/ari Connect with Ari Melber: / arimelber )
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#Trump #SupremeCourt #JackSmith
The lower level court judges must ban together & make a LOUD statement.
You mean like a Pelican Brief response?
@@kevinJmadsen no, loud noises. Screams & growls.
@@political_discourse_news6373😊❤❤❤❤😊❤😊😊😊😊😊
We now have Supreme Court justices who are absent any intellectually honest sense of justice.
Biden also has BROAD immunity! The DNC needs to take advantage of that, The Supreme Court gave Biden a gift.
Biden is to weak, old, and embedded in D.C. to ever try to fix SCOTUS. He has already stated that quite a while ago.
Exactly but the sitting POTUS seems to have no balls or still sleeping 😴.
You ain't a saint Joe.
You are absolutely disappointing your supporters by being and looking like a weakling and your advisors too seems like weakling with no balls at all.
C'mon Joe..at the very least do it for Bow who is called a loser and stupid sucker.
you're ignoring the conservative counter: Shameless hypocrisy and double standards.
And do what exactly?
Biden has integrity , far in excess of Trump's perfidy.
Look at Ginni Thomas messages to Meadows too
Executive privilege only applies to the current president. Not, to former presidents.
Edit involves presidential duty while the president is the president. That is what we are talking about here. Did Trump break the law while he was doing his presidential duties?
@@katwin659
No. You can only claim presidential immunity while you are president, not a private citizen. It’s the law. Clearly, given your lack of understanding, you are not a lawyer 😎
Let me ask you: does this make the supreme court guilty of Aiding and abetting in the crimes of Donald Trump? By giving aid and comfort to Trump should they be held accountable?
Only to people with goofy reasoning.
@@reason6835 thats why we have trump.
Trump is ineligible to hold office under the Constitution's rules about giving aid and comfort to insurrectionists. An argument could be made that this is transitive and protecting him from law enforcement is itself criminal.
Only if it makes the New York courts guilty of aiding the Democrats in election interference.
Let me ask you….are you being serious, or did you run out of meds.
GO GET HIM JACK🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸👕🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
This crappy SCOTUS has go to go!
If you have 34 felonies and are known as Doe 174 on Epstein's list, i will not vote for that person. Trump couldn't pass a background check for a civil service job.
Presidential immunity exists precisely for what the tyrannical Biden Administration is doing to Trump! Our forefathers saw Biden coming. So, your post is uninformed.
Don't forget Individual 1, who conspired to commit crimes with Michael Cohen.
You voted for Clinton and he was logged on Epsteins flight logs 57 times!
@@ProudAmericanAmericanThere really is no need to exaggerate.
He doesn’t need or want your vote, but thanks!
Shame on those corrupt MAGA judges
not MAGA Judges; Fed Soc Judges...
You are against making america great again? Obviously you guys hate america.
The Democratic party needs solidarity right now. We can't lose sight on defeating drumph because Biden is too old. He didn't just become old yesterday. He was old when he defeated drumph the last time
I would vote for a good turnip over a stinky orange turd any day.
Vote blue no matter who 💙
@@ryonlyoncorrupt Dem'entia Quid Pro Joe (P)resident of a Nursing home in the White House is TOAST
Agreed
@@ryonlyon nope,
If your whole defense revolves around preventing the people involved from testifying, and claiming that you have immunity from prosecution, you're guilty AF...
The American people need to hear and know everything about every crime this criminal past president so we can vote with clear minds that we know everything. We the Jury need to decide.
😂😂😂😂 do you even watch any of these cases? What other jury has ever had the instructions that they don’t have to agree or name the crime in order to convict a person?! Thank God the left is so passionate about abortion, mutilating their kids genitals and anti straight people. We just gotta ride this wave out cause they’re dedicated to ending their own blood lines
Agreed - SCOTUS are blocking this in every way - allowing Trump on the ballot, granting immunity so the Jan 6 is on hold, giving Cannon a way out to dismiss the slam dunk case of illegal document retention. Cannon had already delayed it unnecessarily, and Mcafee delayed it unnecessarily by allowing a full on examination of the prosecutor.
Amy Cony Barrett (sp?) being reasonable on this issue just makes me nervous that she's buying credibility to do something much less reasonable later. Call me a cynic, but this is a woman who voted against women's fundamental rights, so she has proven her judicial flexibility..
To me, it sugests that, while she is very conservative, she is not dishonest, not easy to intimidate, and not in anybody's pocket. It could be much worse.
The funny thing is that none of Trump's appointees have been as horrible as the far right were hoping they'd be. I'm not defending them or their disastrous rulings by any stretch, but they've shown glimpses of reason and integrity that you will never see from Thomas or Alito.
She’s a maga handmaiden who voted to give tRmp the immunity afforded to Kings.
They have every intention to award him the office again.
She is as vile as the rest.
And LIED during her appointment.
She overturned precedent, and has criminally twisted the constitution to meet their political agenda.
Her judicial perjury..
A word for the Supreme Court: "Prejudice is a great time saver. You can form opinions without having to get the facts." ~E. B. White
"President's are not King's. And the plaintiff is not President"
Judge Tanya Chutkan
And Canadians and Europeans are not United States citizens , and they have absolutely no say in United States politics. (Let that sink in)
@@muddywater4505
Still waiting for your American ID grandma.
Still can't afford a booth at grandma?
And facts hurt your feelings 💋@@muddywater4505
@@b.t.2795.... me and your mom think it's time for you to move out of the basement.
That's not aging very well, did it since these people are being exposed as tyrants.
Shouldn’t “official acts” also be lawful? Otherwise the president would be breaking his oath of office right? How else will any president be motivated to follow the law?
Exactly - you are too sensible for the MAGA brainwashed justices who are making things up.
should have no immunity for crimes done by any ruler
A president has nothing to do with enforcement of state's electoral process.
But many of his MAGA sycophants do. But we have, I think 19 total states that have passed the law that whoever gets the overall popular vote gets the state's total electoral votes. We need about 5 more states to pass it and we are in, yea!
Trump’s legal team doesn’t want these hearings to go ahead, now I wonder why they don’t want the public to know.
They might change their minds about him
Porque quieren llegar al podet osi osi como trabajan los delincuente corrutos company jueses corrutos se Brendan por cada esquina y despues. Putin en estados unidos
.Compensation con Democracia. Contitusion. Como se vive en Rusia Venezuela Cuba solos los corrutos delincuente viven.solo van esto bidios son persona presionales que saben los que esta en guego vota blue vota por Democracia mañana sera tarde solo pentecostal en nuetro hijo nieto vota Democrata ❤❤❤😂
Will you guys ever just stop with your total nonsense? Can we look forward to more impeachment stuff after he is elected?
@@bethanyhealy4989go on Biben , it an official act, an when he win a second term, don’t hold back, and deal with the orange traitor and his cohorts.
Fight Fascism With Facts. Get to work, investigative reporters.
Good point.
There is no such a thing as investigative reporters anymore. Oh those horrible maga people who want to make america great again.
This has to be one of the biggest BS rulings ever made in the MAGA Court! If Trump gets back into office, that will be the end of America! I know how I will vote, even though my vote won't count because I am from Florida! But at least I will vote!
Oh yes, your vote will count. Especially in Florida!
It’s right up there with Dred Scott in it’s awfulness! For “conservatives” they are sure doing a lot of inventing … on the fly, no less.
I personally believe that the orange one is not going to make it to NOVEMBER. The STRESS WILL BE TO MUCH.😂😂😂😂😂
Corrupt Dem'entia Quid Pro Joe (P)resident of a Nursing home in the White House won't
Which one you talking about since Sloppy joe is doing his best to be orange like Trump. 🤣🤡
Agreed 💯
Dude your president looks like a corpse. Shhhh
Did you see brain dead Joe during the debate??? 😂😂😂. Maybe the fake doctor Jill will prescribe him dementia pills .. 😂😂
Trump found the perfect grift--get elected president and do all the criming you want.
That's not true listen to other news you might look around you and see the difference biden is a corrupt criminal he stole the election
10% for the big guy. 😂😂
@@arbyjack2552 the big guy doesn't know what day it is 😂
With Scotus rulings to drop obstruction charges for Jan 6 rioters (only the very worst were charged with obstruction), ruling on Presidential Immunity, and ruling to grant kickbacks to gov't officials, this Scotus is telling us exactly who they are.
Doj charged incorrectly , simple on J6
Nothing trump did was presidential 😡🤬🏌️♂️💨
I agree.
Make Constitutional Oaths Matter
What is so freaking hard for them to say No one is above the law.
They got $ treats from Billionaires!😡
Except the Rulers
Biden? Clinton? Nancy? Oclowno?
You should probably reword that to “no republican is above the law” ..I mean just look at the criminal institutions in Blue cities. Wow!
They did say it, but you obviously haven't read the decision.
What is so freaking hard for them to say No one is above the law
Because that’s not necessarily true. Many people are eligible for many different types of legal immunity.
What’s so hard for democrats to accept that many different types of immunity exist?
Because republicans want to be
@@TheRealCrimdoryou think it’s ok for the president to be able to commit election fraud? Or incite an insurrection ?
@@reason6835 so no immunity, and let him have his day in court. Just as you or I would have
If Merrick Garland didn't take almost 2 years to even start working on this we wouldn't be in this position. If biden wins he needs to immediately replace merrick with someone more competent.
If a President can't communicate in clear, unambiguous English, maybe he shouldn't be President?
Now you listen here! A little dementia never hurt anyone!
How do you explain Biden then? He can't talk 2 minutes without a teleprompter even though he killed medicare.
Don't count Biden out yet.
@@aurora_occidentalis2248Biden can't even count.
@@aurora_occidentalis2248 Without the dead people vote, he is done.
Since when does the Supreme Court get to make new laws and retro it back in time? "Absolute Immunity" is nowhere in the Constitution or current law!
That’s not what they ruled. They said “absolute PRESUMPTION of immunity for official acts.” The lower courts still have to decide if Trump’s actions constitute an official act. He wasn’t granted immunity at all. That hasn’t even been ruled on yet. This network lies.
Since the Democrats got to weaponize the courts they control against their political opponent.
Since when Dems threatening Supreme Court Justices and chanting in from of their homes "We know what schools your children go to"...
Since ALWAYS….yikes you people are goooone
you now have a king.
100% immune to the law.
*EVIDENCE* you can block, is before a jury. *WITHOUT A JURY, ANYTHING GOES.*
When Trump tried to force his security detail after his insurrection speech on Jan 6th to take him to the Capitol so he could join the violent invaders and hunt down Mike Pence and Nancy Pelosi, was he acting as a private citizen or in his official role as the president?
Good question.
Ignore these judges.
So...SCOTUS wants the judge to determine which criminal act Trump can be held accountable for before a jury determines if the acts were criminal. Yeah, that's not logical. This is an argument a defense lawyer should be making to a jury during a trial... Prosecutors make the case that an act is criminal and defende makes the case that it wasn't and/or there are extenuating circumstances that acknowledge the criminality but being held accountable for the act dorsnt apply to their client becaude of x/y/z. Does anyone believe the defense isnt going to make that very claim at trial? What, are they going to take an appeal of what's determined to be criminal back to SCOTUS and let's say SCOTUS allows one or two of the counts to stand and go to trial. The burden is on the prosecution to prove that trump DID what he was indicted for. So what would be the purpose of a trial at that point?
I'd trust 12 people vetted for impartiality versus a very very partisan group of people that have no accountability attached to their lifetime appointments.
Biden has my full support. Biden2024. Vote blue like your life depends on it.
It might, especially if you are a woman of child-bearing age or a child at school.
Witnesses may not be needed. The sworn evidence from the Grand Jury can be read into the hearing.
I'm pretty sure the language from the Supreme Court was exactly that _the lower court is to find what is and what is not official acts_ Meaning it is up to the lower court for determination, not the SC
JOE PLEASE STAY IN THE RACE WE NEED YOU NOW MORE THAN EVER,,,,,,,DT24............
Career politician's, thats why we're in this mess, diffent wing same bird! 👁️☠️
DING DING DING - BEST ANSWER - ALL GROSS and they make Trump look like a choir boy. - murder inc.
Can grand jury testimony from witnesses be used instead of live witnesses who Trump can cross examine?
Biden for president vote blue 💙💙💙💙🔵😊
Biden, now has this same power as trump. He should use it! For heavens sake, Democrat party, DO DOMETHING
They have! NOW it's UP TO US! YOU KNOW WHAT YOU AND YOURS MUST DO... V O T E B L U E
😂 Remember the 2020 presidential debate? 50 intelligence officers remember and they all said to quiet down 😂
3 branches of government. (You need a civics course)
@@muddywater4505 YOu are missing his point. Biden could OFFICIALLY have Trump arrested and held for the next 6 months pending trial on any old charges, or even none at all...and hey, while it may not be "legal", Biden himself would be immune from prosecution for it! I think it's a rather excellent idea myself. Of course, he could even go whole hog and implement that which Trump's own lawyers argued was "immune", namely Seal Team 6 and...you know. If I was Biden, I'd also simply remove the 6 fascist judges from the SCOTUS and replace them. As an "official act". Let it all get sorted out in the future after he's retired...and IMMUNE!
@@muddywater4505 I’ve taken a Honda civics class before and man let me tell you.. way to many ladies in there 😓
its seems contradictive to have a president be able to somehow act officially in a way that is unconstitutional yet still falls under the perview of his official acts, like how they said he cant be pursued on the matter of trying to have Pence overturn the election results, which is a power the President does not have.
Time for Mike Pence to come out very publicly. It is his moral obligation to tell the press what happened on J 6.
The Supreme Court has shown me no matter what is stated or said about how they should conduct themselves, their beliefs and opinions do affect their decision-making.
I am so outraged by this unconstitutional SC! This has to be overturned!
FJS and FJB ... Trump 2024!!!!!🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
We, the people need to know all the information *BEFORE voting begins* in the election!
Jill Biden quote:
Joe is Sharp and Vigorous 😂
We should check Jill out immediately.
Melania is missing, MAGA should focus on that.
@@ScumbagScarborough Project2025-1 is a Heritage Fund Groomer.
@Figment-b3l I think she’s heading to the White House obviously, with President Trump. I’m sure she is also saying that Biden is cognitively impaired, along with everyone else.
The fact that these justices, judges, & politicians are protecting this criminal makes them complicit in his crimes, IMO.
MSDNC 2098: "Trump is going to prison! Any day now!" 🦓🦓🦓🦓🦓🦓🦓🦓
Fox News 2027: "Hillary is going to prison! Any day now!" 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
Fox News 2098:trumps infrastructure bill and health plan is going to come out in 2 weeks.🤣😂
And the SCHIFF SHOW drags on
With the Supreme court working against justice there is no hope. America is hooped.
They say the captain goes down with the ship, but we are currently witnessing a rare instance of the captain deciding to take the ship down with him, instead. It’s almost beautiful. GO TRUMP all the way!
A country is judged by its strength. We Are That Strength
OVER 100 shot in Chicago over the weekend , MSLSD and Sharpton Silent 🤔🤔🤔
GOP solution: "Thoughts and prayers. And bump stocks."
So many bots
My my it's the 2nd amendment.😁
Judges Should Go To Prison With Trump Together
AWESOME VIDEO.
Who has the authority to make Grand Jury transcripts public?
💙Vote for Biden -- The first black woman to defeat Medicare.💙
So why AREN'T we taxing CHURCHES?
We should be collecting taxes on churches just like all other vices - Alcohol, tobacco, gambling, and pot.
Wasn't Trump arguing he never took the oath for president? Or am I remembering incorrectly? Because if he did say that then nothing he did was an official act
Is ACB being blackmailed or threatened in some way? I have a hard time understanding some of her decisions. I pray she will get back to the person she was when she took her oath of office 🙏🙏
Everybody in the world sees that he is a criminal and that the supreme Court is bagging a criminal in the supreme Court needs to be overhauled
End Trumps Immunity
.
🔵 🔵 VOTE 🔵 🔵
They can put Trump on trial make him decide whether he has immunity or not. If he is immune he needs to testify against everyone he pressured.
Can the dupreme court be overturned for making an illegal or unlawful ruling in violation of the constitution?
I guess if Nixon was still alive he would be able to run as well. What a joke.
Hi Tanya! Go get'em tiger! 🤡
So nothing to do with the actual evidence, just who brought the charges. Great system! DOJ what are you going to do?
Reply
They already have the grand jury transcripts of all of the witnesses that they can use without having to call them back on the stand
Sounds like Smiths case is starting to fall apart😅
yup, putin is winning.
Criminals never win. Sorry you criminals like to flock together😅
Mr baggy eyes is done😂😂
Hardly. Trump will be in court for the rest of his life.
Bot.
The question becomes, who benifited or would benifit from these acts? The people? Or the individual initiating the acts. If it is the individual it is a personal act, the people an official act since he is to do the peoples work, not his own.
long story short . Follow the corrupt American justice system !
I lost resoect for Hugo after he wrote a puff piece about trump's Bronx circus rally. He amplified trump's crowd numbers which were lies.
😂dangler Donald was counting on and tried to blame black lives matter
msnbc is back to herding cats.
And apparently FOX still breeds maggots.
As a Democrat I like how crazy MSNBC is!
Yet here you are.🇺🇸
Are you guys going to report on the Epstein files?
Just as soon as they report on Ashley's diary
Epsteins is old news. That boat has sailed and sunk.
@@montana_patriot
Your favorite pastime Roy Moore?
James O'Keefe never found ownership of the diary grandma.
Is Hannibal Lecter a wonderful man to you too grandma?
@@montana_patriotDebunked years ago, dear, DO try to keep up 💋
That wasn't funny the first thousand times.
when your presidential candidate is a Bible salesman
Judges, prosecutors, Senators, Governors, members of congress, ambassadors, police all have a measure of immunity for actions related to their work.
And they vigorously defend themselves when such immunity is infringed.
yeah, and your president used to have a measure of immunity for actions related to his work.
but now you have a king, 100% immune from any actions related or non-related to his work. as long as he claims its an "official act" nobody can do anything.
Scotus couldnt tell Chutkan how to sus out Trump's jive cuz their only job was to go point by point thru his indictment to give him away out.
“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal. . .”
constitutional amendment to make all men equal under the law WITHOUT EXCEPTION
what is MORE AMERICAN?????
what congress person would not vote for this??????
what state would not ratify??????
The Supreme court gave no direction how to determine if acts are official or not because they will eventually be the only one's to decide what is official. If they gave directions they might hamper their own later decisions.
Sad how quick Joey's party turned on him.
End result of being caught lying
Not quick enough. This over.
Vote blue for dementia joe
Thanks for your input, fascist tool
Have you heard Trump's speeches over the last 6 months? Biden losing his train of thought a couple of times iS NOTHING on Trump and his word dysphasia, belief he's running against Obama, mixing up Pelosi with other people, and the like. Far, far more and seriously indicative of serious cognitive issues than an overworked 81 year old losing his train of thought at 9pm at night after doing two other campaign stops the same day, all while his opponent is yapping at him in the background.
Grow up.
@@ScumbagScarborough Project2025-1 is a Heritage Fund Groomer
Not worthy of reply.
Why do you keep trying to shame the shameless? Have you no teeth?
I'd vote for a ham sandwich if the Democrats feared it this much!🇺🇸🤷♂😆
What would you do if you could get that ankle bracelet off and leave your cubicle? 💋
Whiteprivelege912 is Heritage Fund Groomer.
@@ProudAmericanAmerican Whiteprivelege912 is Heritage Fund Groomer.
Vance's core belief is that he represents Peter Theil, Elon Musk, and the other oligarchs of technology. Otherwise Trump would have put his daughter in as VP cause he is that low brow
Drop out of the race for President Donald J. TRUMP!!! 14TH AMENDMENT SECTION 3 of our America Constitution! Mike Pence can do it
Democrats owe Robert Hur an apology
Let's wait for Trump to apologize for January the 6th grandma.
If you say so Stephen Miller. 🙀
@@b.t.2795why, what happened on January 6 ?
No your criminal owes the country and especially women an apology don't be such a racist😡
@@ErnestTeeBassyou're really that ignorant
Trump, He needs to be in prison
Campaign Speeches ain't his Presidential duty
A coup is still a coup, no matter how SC try to re labelled it.
There was a lot of preparation before Jan 6 by trump supporters.
Lies lies, lies dummyfire, voting for democracy.
What about this,i grabbed this up fro. A persons comments. And ,this is what was written. Eileen Cannons husband is good friend with her husband and is a contributor to his Campaigne. He used to work Floria BasedNew York ,mobster
He is good friend of trumps I want to make that clearer😊
who needs a defense when the judges are in the tank?
I need to get me some of what the Supreme Court is smoking...