I had one of those several years ago. It must have had the old chamber size. Fired rounds showed primer back outs. I was afraid to shoot it so I sold it. And yes I did advise the buyer
I own a pair of 7 m/ m rolling block rifles ( a 1897 and a 1902 model). I have had no issues with the chambers on either rifle. My model 1902 is extremely accurate, with a cast bullet load consisting of W-W brass, W-W large rifle standard( non magnum) primer, 9.0 grains of red dot powder under a RCBS 168 grain cast bullet sized at .284 inch. Consistent hits on a railroad fish plate as a gong target is easy at 200 yards from a bench rest. I own about a half dozen Remington rolling blocks, and they ate all fun to shoot.
I've always been curious about these 7x57 rolling blocks. Would be a gun gun to have but I've been to sure about if it's safe to shoot modern 7x57 in them. Glad your sheding some light on the subject 👍
I’ve seen where others have had similar experience with the chamber being a bit longer than modern 7x57. My concern is that if there is excessive headspace and a case fails, there isn’t any provision for venting.
Hiya Mr C! What fun! That old timer seems to shoot very well. On a side note, I shot some of the Saeco #418 with that same Lyman load of 2400 that you did. 1163 fps SD 19. I also shot some Hdy 210 XTP rounds..one of those left me some unburned powder in the baggie I brought my brass home in. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
The 418 did well at the range, Walter. I have some footage that may be used for part XI - we’ll see. I may reshoot the range video with the other SAECO bullet.
Please keep us informed on your cast bullet progress. I have a particular 140 grain fp mold i am looking to use in rolling block cabine as my medium game ( and trap line gun) here on snowshoes in Alaska.
This one has a relatively large bore, and the rifling isn't as sharp as I'd like it to be. It's surprising to me that it shoots the Speer bullets well. More shooting at further distance is needed! 🙂
@WilliamCChapin nice thing about cast bullets is they can be had in larger bore sizes. I have been contemplating paper wrapping some as well ....then again until I get some other projects taken care of it is all just talk
@@aarondevaldez9134 I’m sure it’s been done. The case head is more or less the same as the 7mm Mauser, so the extractor would work fine. There’s probably information out there.
The “table top” shown in the video was traced from the shape of my Knothole Designs Model 2000 Portable Shooting Bench. I often clamp or fasten it to other tables or benches in order to make a decent shooting platform. It’s roughly 18” x 48”. knotholedesigns.com/
So a great ol rifle, that I wish I had. Hope the bore looks good. Great load for fireforming your brass. It sound like it has a half cock safety notch? I think you're saying that the chamber neck is a large diameter, when you say throat has space? Hmmm not there to see what is going on myself, but from what I'm hearing it wouldn't hurt to do a chamber casting, and slug the barrel. Also missed hearing the bullet used. Mountain man
The rifle is proving to be able to shoot well with the 145 grain Speer Spitzer SP Flat Base bullet and 18 grains of SR 4759. Yes, the chamber neck is rather large diameter - and the rifling is somewhat weak. Thanks for the note! 🙂
Before you go changing the hammer spring you should take a look at the sear angles. The millitary rifles ( and pistols) are rather famous for having a reverse cut sear surface ( almost like a half cock notch) be aware the the hammer is case hardened and will have to be re cased after any work is done.
Depending on how different the specific chamber is from the “parent”, I typically find two firings to be sufficient to consider brass to be formed. I then run them with minimal sizing until they show signs of splitting or other fatigue.
NOT a No 5, it is a Remington made No 1 smokeless military rifle. Remington made only 198 true No 5 rifles in various calibres and all in Sporting design. It is a misnomer to call your rifle a No 5.
@@colinstreet1109 I think what I’m reading in the comment is a statement that a 1902 Improved Smallbore Military Rifle isn’t a No. 5 - which contradicts what I have read elsewhere. I certainly don’t know everything there is to know about rolling blocks. I do respect information provided by Kenn Womack at Womacks Rolling Block Parts. www.rollingblockparts.com/no-5.html
Mornin Chap! ❤
Good morning. ☕️
I had one of those several years ago. It must have had the old chamber size. Fired rounds showed primer back outs. I was afraid to shoot it so I sold it. And yes I did advise the buyer
That seems to be somewhat common. I make long brass for this one. Thanks for the note.
I own a pair of 7 m/ m rolling block rifles ( a 1897 and a 1902 model).
I have had no issues with the chambers on either rifle. My model 1902 is extremely accurate, with a cast bullet load consisting of W-W brass, W-W large rifle standard( non magnum) primer, 9.0 grains of red dot powder under a RCBS 168 grain cast bullet sized at .284 inch. Consistent hits on a railroad fish plate as a gong target is easy at 200 yards from a bench rest. I own about a half dozen Remington rolling blocks, and they ate all fun to shoot.
What a classic and beautiful bit of history ❤ She’s a shooter too.
Thanks! We’ll see how it does on paper at further distance. 🙂
I've always been curious about these 7x57 rolling blocks. Would be a gun gun to have but I've been to sure about if it's safe to shoot modern 7x57 in them. Glad your sheding some light on the subject 👍
I’ve seen where others have had similar experience with the chamber being a bit longer than modern 7x57. My concern is that if there is excessive headspace and a case fails, there isn’t any provision for venting.
Thanks for sharing. I have 2 Chileno 5x57s I bought this winter I need to try out
The 1895 and 1912 Chilean Mausers are among my favorites! An 1895 Carbine should debut on my channel soon. 🙂
@@WilliamCChapin excellent
Great gun and great video Sir!
Thank you…thank you very much! 🙂
Great old gun there Chappy.
Thanks, Toad! I think it’s going to be a lot of fun. 🙂
Nice work! I was hopeful the cast bullets would group for you!
I think I can get something sorted out with a cast bullet. Thanks for checking in, Marc! 🤠
Hiya Mr C! What fun! That old timer seems to shoot very well. On a side note, I shot some of the Saeco #418 with that same Lyman load of 2400 that you did. 1163 fps SD 19. I also shot some Hdy 210 XTP rounds..one of those left me some unburned powder in the baggie I brought my brass home in. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
The 418 did well at the range, Walter. I have some footage that may be used for part XI - we’ll see. I may reshoot the range video with the other SAECO bullet.
Please keep us informed on your cast bullet progress. I have a particular 140 grain fp mold i am looking to use in rolling block cabine as my medium game ( and trap line gun) here on snowshoes in Alaska.
This one has a relatively large bore, and the rifling isn't as sharp as I'd like it to be. It's surprising to me that it shoots the Speer bullets well. More shooting at further distance is needed! 🙂
@WilliamCChapin nice thing about cast bullets is they can be had in larger bore sizes. I have been contemplating paper wrapping some as well ....then again until I get some other projects taken care of it is all just talk
I have to wonder about the feasibility of rechambering a Rolling Block to .308.
@@aarondevaldez9134 I’m sure it’s been done. The case head is more or less the same as the 7mm Mauser, so the extractor would work fine. There’s probably information out there.
hey William..... great video. can you tell me your dimensions of your table top please! Thanks
The “table top” shown in the video was traced from the shape of my Knothole Designs Model 2000 Portable Shooting Bench. I often clamp or fasten it to other tables or benches in order to make a decent shooting platform. It’s roughly 18” x 48”. knotholedesigns.com/
So a great ol rifle, that I wish I had. Hope the bore looks good. Great load for fireforming your brass. It sound like it has a half cock safety notch? I think you're saying that the chamber neck is a large diameter, when you say throat has space?
Hmmm not there to see what is going on myself, but from what I'm hearing it wouldn't hurt to do a chamber casting, and slug the barrel. Also missed hearing the bullet used.
Mountain man
The rifle is proving to be able to shoot well with the 145 grain Speer Spitzer SP Flat Base bullet and 18 grains of SR 4759.
Yes, the chamber neck is rather large diameter - and the rifling is somewhat weak.
Thanks for the note! 🙂
👍👍👍
@@jcm4590 Good to see you, JCM!
I have to ask you, is that trigger quite heavy? You keep mentioning it every time you pull the trigger.
It sure is! 🙂
Before you go changing the hammer spring you should take a look at the sear angles. The millitary rifles ( and pistols) are rather famous for having a reverse cut sear surface ( almost like a half cock notch) be aware the the hammer is case hardened and will have to be re cased after any work is done.
A "drop-in" spring kit is available from Womack's at a very reasonable price. www.rollingblockparts.com/accessories.html
@WilliamCChapin my point is ...a spring will not make much sifferance if the sear angles are agressive.
How many times do you shoot your reloads when reforming your brass William.
Depending on how different the specific chamber is from the “parent”, I typically find two firings to be sufficient to consider brass to be formed. I then run them with minimal sizing until they show signs of splitting or other fatigue.
@@WilliamCChapin thanks I appreciate that information btw nice shooting and that rifle is definitely cool
Thanks, Johnny!
NOT a No 5, it is a Remington made No 1 smokeless military rifle. Remington made only 198 true No 5 rifles in various calibres and all in Sporting design. It is a misnomer to call your rifle a No 5.
@@colinstreet1109 I think what I’m reading in the comment is a statement that a 1902 Improved Smallbore Military Rifle isn’t a No. 5 - which contradicts what I have read elsewhere. I certainly don’t know everything there is to know about rolling blocks. I do respect information provided by Kenn Womack at Womacks Rolling Block Parts. www.rollingblockparts.com/no-5.html