An easy way to do a lot in one go is to put some silver plated stuff in a storage tote with KCl, muriatic acid, plus a nitrate salt of your choosing, but avoid ammonium nitrate. The solution should be acidic but not oferly so. The reaction produces AgCl plus a wide range of other metal chlorides. The nitrate acts as a removal catalyst. What will happen is the AgCl forms a coating that simply brushes or washes off and settles to the bottom. The base metals remain in solution which will turn blue over time. Endpoint is when your silver plated stuff shows its true color. Sort by metal type and recycle. To convert your AgCl to silver simply filter it off than disolve in ammonia solution and electrolyze it. You will make silver and amonium chloride. Another option is to reduce with carbon or copper❤
Awesome video, Thank you. Been looking for a way to remove silver from brass rods without losing brass in solution. Keep up the great work. Looking forward to more video's.
Thank you for the nice comment. I appreciate that and glad the technique worked. Next video (1-2 days) will be the tops Of BGS Chips from various E-waste sources followed bu Gold Filled complete process. Cheers! -d
Interesting stripping method. I stopped with plated silver a while ago because it was such a pain to remove but this looks very good. I had never thought about adding a nitrate salt to the stripping vessel. As far as refining the silver goes I would advise two things: First, filter the life out of it once you have it all dissolved. The clearer the solution is the more pure the end result will be. I found that spending more time filtering will save you time and reagents down the road. Secondly, I would advise NOT using HCl to convert to silver chloride and instead use potassium chloride. I use water softener salt for this (25kg bag was $20). This works the same and produces the same silver chloride but it also creates new potassium nitrate which is very easy to recover and purify. I use this same potassium nitrate to generate new nitric acid and dramatically reduce my costs. I've literally recovered well over 10kg of potassium nitrate this way and use sulfuric acid drain opener to make new nitric acid. I just keep cycling it all back around. Not to mention nitric acid is getting rather hard to come by now. You can use sodium chloride but sodium nitrate is much more soluble than potassium nitrate is making it harder to recover and purify. But a great method to strip the plating off. I'll have to give it a shot.
I was in the same boat of thoughts. The old way or salt water way was just too much for so little, The extra Nitric and HCL to remove all the destroyed base metals that ended up in solution was frustrating. There just HAD to be a better way. Thank you! -d
I would love you to do a video in Gold Filled material, Ive been studying refining for three years, almost ready to start once my fume hood is up and running, very interested to see if I can learn something new, looking forward to seeing your future videos, Derek from the U.K.
Hello Derek! Greets. Thank you for your request. I love doing GF actually and as luck would have it, I just received a bag of material to process. Some are GF and some are plated. I am working on separating the two. The next video I have coming is BGA tops from e-waste. That video is almost completed. That being said the video I will work on next once the BGA is posted WILL BE the GF as per your request. Look for it soon and thank you for being a part of this channel. Cheers! d0c
@@gsmtradeco Great news, I will look forward to that video, hopefully I can learn somthing new, I am currently finishing off my small lab and plan on setting up my first electrolytic silver cell, any advice on that would be appreciated, all the best, Derek.
@@derekagnew4059 Thats awesome Derek! Sounds like how I got started. Nice to hear your patient with the whole process and wanting to do things right. I have no doubt you'll be successful in your endeavours. As for advice, you got it. Any questions you have now or along the way I would be happy to answer. Just out of curiosity , have you read "Refining Precious Metal Wastes" by C.M Hoke? I am sure you have, but if not, its considered for us home refiners a "Bible" if you will. A definate must have and must read. When I make the GF video , I will give you a shout out for the request. I am really looking forward in making that video, I have had great success when working with GF material. -d0C
Hello John, thanks for your inquiry. I do apologize for the delay. I had my last remaining family member pass and had to take care of my Mothers affairs. Plus I was in the middle of a move which I just got done today thankfully. The next video is nearly ready and should be uploaded within the next couple of days and we should be good to go on track as initially intended. Thanks for checking in.
Hello Pete! Currently I don't have much of a selection of decent videography equipment. I have a 720p camera and my Samsung S21+ and this is my first time creating any sort of video for a large audience. I appreciate any tips or suggestions always and certainly will keep that in mind on the video following the BGA tops which is set to be posted within the next couple days. --Cheers!
@ a proudly Canadian owned and operated entity. oh ok. Well your content is great. No dramas there. But if you hold your phone on its side, it records in landscape instead of portrait
An easy way to do a lot in one go is to put some silver plated stuff in a storage tote with KCl, muriatic acid, plus a nitrate salt of your choosing, but avoid ammonium nitrate. The solution should be acidic but not oferly so. The reaction produces AgCl plus a wide range of other metal chlorides. The nitrate acts as a removal catalyst. What will happen is the AgCl forms a coating that simply brushes or washes off and settles to the bottom. The base metals remain in solution which will turn blue over time. Endpoint is when your silver plated stuff shows its true color. Sort by metal type and recycle. To convert your AgCl to silver simply filter it off than disolve in ammonia solution and electrolyze it. You will make silver and amonium chloride. Another option is to reduce with carbon or copper❤
That was great rambling introduction. Thank you..
Awesome video, Thank you. Been looking for a way to remove silver from brass rods without losing brass in solution. Keep up the great work. Looking forward to more video's.
Thank you for the nice comment. I appreciate that and glad the technique worked. Next video (1-2 days) will be the tops Of BGS Chips from various E-waste sources followed bu Gold Filled complete process. Cheers! -d
Again John Thank you very much! Much appreciated!
It’s Robert de Niros doppelgänger 🤣 do an opening where you look into the camera saying “ you talking to me? You talking to me?” 😂
Interesting stripping method. I stopped with plated silver a while ago because it was such a pain to remove but this looks very good. I had never thought about adding a nitrate salt to the stripping vessel.
As far as refining the silver goes I would advise two things: First, filter the life out of it once you have it all dissolved. The clearer the solution is the more pure the end result will be. I found that spending more time filtering will save you time and reagents down the road.
Secondly, I would advise NOT using HCl to convert to silver chloride and instead use potassium chloride. I use water softener salt for this (25kg bag was $20). This works the same and produces the same silver chloride but it also creates new potassium nitrate which is very easy to recover and purify. I use this same potassium nitrate to generate new nitric acid and dramatically reduce my costs. I've literally recovered well over 10kg of potassium nitrate this way and use sulfuric acid drain opener to make new nitric acid. I just keep cycling it all back around. Not to mention nitric acid is getting rather hard to come by now. You can use sodium chloride but sodium nitrate is much more soluble than potassium nitrate is making it harder to recover and purify.
But a great method to strip the plating off. I'll have to give it a shot.
I was in the same boat of thoughts. The old way or salt water way was just too much for so little, The extra Nitric and HCL to remove all the destroyed base metals that ended up in solution was frustrating. There just HAD to be a better way. Thank you! -d
I would love you to do a video in Gold Filled material, Ive been studying refining for three years, almost ready to start once my fume hood is up and running, very interested to see if I can learn something new, looking forward to seeing your future videos, Derek from the U.K.
Hello Derek! Greets. Thank you for your request. I love doing GF actually and as luck would have it, I just received a bag of material to process. Some are GF and some are plated. I am working on separating the two. The next video I have coming is BGA tops from e-waste. That video is almost completed. That being said the video I will work on next once the BGA is posted WILL BE the GF as per your request. Look for it soon and thank you for being a part of this channel. Cheers! d0c
@@gsmtradeco Great news, I will look forward to that video, hopefully I can learn somthing new, I am currently finishing off my small lab and plan on setting up my first electrolytic silver cell, any advice on that would be appreciated, all the best, Derek.
@@derekagnew4059 Thats awesome Derek! Sounds like how I got started. Nice to hear your patient with the whole process and wanting to do things right. I have no doubt you'll be successful in your endeavours. As for advice, you got it. Any questions you have now or along the way I would be happy to answer. Just out of curiosity , have you read "Refining Precious Metal Wastes" by C.M Hoke? I am sure you have, but if not, its considered for us home refiners a "Bible" if you will. A definate must have and must read. When I make the GF video , I will give you a shout out for the request. I am really looking forward in making that video, I have had great success when working with GF material. -d0C
Do you do this as business?
I have a few pounds of silver plated items that I would like to turn into all silver
Hey Doc. Wondering if you ok? Haven't seen anything new. Working on solder removal before pm removal myself.
Hello John, thanks for your inquiry. I do apologize for the delay. I had my last remaining family member pass and had to take care of my Mothers affairs. Plus I was in the middle of a move which I just got done today thankfully. The next video is nearly ready and should be uploaded within the next couple of days and we should be good to go on track as initially intended. Thanks for checking in.
I wish you recorded with your phone on its side
Hello Pete! Currently I don't have much of a selection of decent videography equipment. I have a 720p camera and my Samsung S21+ and this is my first time creating any sort of video for a large audience. I appreciate any tips or suggestions always and certainly will keep that in mind on the video following the BGA tops which is set to be posted within the next couple days. --Cheers!
@ a proudly Canadian owned and operated entity. oh ok. Well your content is great. No dramas there.
But if you hold your phone on its side, it records in landscape instead of portrait