M1 Garand Winter Triggers - What are they, how do they work, and what makes them so dangerous?
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- Опубліковано 9 чер 2024
- During the Korean War, the need for an effective solution to combat the extreme winter conditions became paramount. To address this challenge, a specialized winter trigger was designed for the M1 Garand rifle. This ingenious device featured a modified design that allowed soldiers to manipulate the trigger more easily while wearing thick gloves or mittens. The winter trigger incorporated larger and more prominent surfaces, enabling a soldier's gloved finger to engage with precision, ensuring reliable and responsive firing in the bitter cold. With the winter trigger, soldiers could maintain their grip and dexterity while engaging the enemy, providing them with a significant advantage in the unforgiving Korean winter landscape. These triggers were not without their shortcomings however, and they have become somewhat notorious in collectors circles due to safety concerns. By bypassing the trigger guard, these winter triggers make it significantly easier for a user to pull the trigger negligently.
While researching this video, I found that the available information on the implementation of M1 Garand winter triggers was seriously lacking. If you have more insight on when, where, and how often these winter triggers were used, please let me know in the comments!
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The winter trigger was designed by a marine after the battle Of the Chosen Reservoir. His name was John Polompski. 0:56 He later became the ceo of Westinghouse and a professor at the university of Michigan. He was also a nuclear physicist. He was a larger than life person and a great friend until he passed away. He had many more accomplishments.
Very interesting! I’ll have to look into him
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The M5 version is what I used as inspiration to design a trigger for a handicapped child. My cousin's son has a muscular disease which makes his muscles substantially weaker than that of average children. He was not able to pull the trigger on his Daisy Buck BB rifle because the trigger pull was too great for just one of his fingers. Based on the M5, I designed and built a "winter trigger" that enabled him to use his whole hand to squeeze the trigger. I'll never forget how happy he was when he was able to shoot his BB gun without help.
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You're a good man.
My great granddad Geinger who served in Europe from '44-'45, and Korea from '50-'53, told my granddad that "He absolutely hated this thing. I would have faired better if I didn't use it"
Your great grand father never liked you and didnt wanted to new family. Go to play call of duty with pink skins.
Nice
you uploading a longer video is more interesting and I enjoy watching this!
Thanks! Hoping to do more in this format in the future!
I am a retired Canadian Army infantry officer. And can attest that the Canadian arctic trigger is indeed dangerous, involving the removal of the trigger guard. The drill was to ALWAYS keep the change lever to "safe" unless actually firing. Also, gas operated rifles do not work at -50 degrees, which is why the Canadian Rangers carry bolt-action rifles.
I am retired German officer ww2 and your opinion are nonsense anyways. Go to promote m1 garanr propagand you yankee kid.
The Lee-Enfield lives on in the hands of you Canadians!
Actually, in 2015 the Canadian Rangers adopted a Finnish Tikka bolt-action rifle in 7.62 mm NATO.
@@TommygunNG Hush, I can still dream.
@@tedparkinson2033if it helps, the Danish Sirius Patrol in Greenland still uses M1917 Enfields
I love when you do videos on showing us relics of the past. I love your content, and learning about WWII
You know WWII was actually a bad thing.
@@Alexander-cg1ey Meant learning about it
@@mr.raptor_541 That's fair 😂😂 I just thought it might get a chuckle
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I always get excited seeing your shorts; they're so satisfyingly concise and informative that I never bothered to check your channel for full videos until now! Very thorough stuff. Keep it up.
Little known fact, the M16/M4/AR15s trigger guard rotates downwards, to allow use of cold weather gloves.
I was an infantryman in Alaska. I am well acquainted lol
@@3-2bravo49 JBER or Wainwright?
Make it easier to use mittens.
I have to give you due credit for sharing something an over-fifty amateur historian didn't know about! Well played, sir!
As for cold-weather trigger work, I can relate. I grew up in the Northern Adirondacks, where it can get a bit chilly. I will say that Tnisulate was a game-changer when it came out. I picked up a pair from Wilson's Leather in Plattsburgh in the early 90's and harvested a whitetail with my Marlin 336 shortly thereafter. First time I kept my gloves on firing at game.
Going back to the Garand winter trigger, I can see it being a tough call by the military brass... having to weigh losses due to inaccessible triggers against losses due to over-accessible triggers.
I loved this video. You're so clearly passionate about this subject and your enthusiasm is contagious! I have never even heard of a winter trigger and now I feel like I know a lot about them. And ending the video with the Garand ping was just icing on the cake! Awesome stuff man. Thanks.
I was always under the impression that the M1 was designed so that if it needed to be pried you used a single round. Like opening the trigger guard, engage/disengage the safety, opening the Burt plate compartment. I’m sure there’s a couple other things too.
Keep up the good work! Love watching your videos teaching people about WW2.
Keep up the good work. So busy soaking up your information I didn't notice any camera problems.👍
I just got one of theses last week for my May 1944 Garand! I'm excited to take it out and try it.
Wow. I had never heard of these before! Thanks for the awesome video!
this was actually a very interesting video! thankyou for sharing this with all of us
If you have any trouble removing cosmoline I recommend using brake cleaner. I used it to remove that gunk on my Mosin (after I stripped it down to the metal don’t use brake cleaner on wood) and it worked well. I recommend safety glasses, gloves and doing it outside because brake cleaner is nasty stuff.
So flad to finally hear about these triggers. I've never had to use a screwdriver or anything to open the milled trigger guard on my Garand.
Me neither! I used to drill with a group where the 1st Sgt. had us break down our Garands into its 3 main components in formation.
Thank you for all the neat stuff you share at 40 years old I've learned so many new wwii facts on your channel
I like how in the middle he tells the story of a group of men presumably being set on fire and dying then just carries on
Peak special interest energy
Badass video man! Keep it up
My father was an avaition clerk during Vietnam and when they switched from m14 to m16 he trained first with m14 then had to learn the m16.and mu grandfather was ww2 vet that served on dd732 in the navy.i wish my dad and grandfather were still alive. Because i didnt have enough time with them to hear all there stories and have a better understanding of exactly when they served and what there time was like.i miss there stories.
This is interesting, thanks for the story as well
There was also a winter safety. I have only seen one in person but there out there
Very cool and thanks for sharing and keeping his memory alive 🇺🇸🐾
Nice find , did not know of that piece of equipment , can see how it could be use full .
The “ping” was a nice closing touch. Made my day.
Greetings. Excellent video, congratulations. Glad to have discovered your page. My father served and participated in the Italian campaign with the 5th Army, from the Salerno Invasion (Sept. 1943) all the way to the Po Valley; then in early 1945, he and thousands more were shipped to the Philippines where he did a bit of guerrilla type action and then went into training to prepare for the invasion of Japan. Luckily, the Japanese surrendered before that happened. As you can see, my interest in WWII is very personal. As a Historian and an Archaeologist I think that your attention to detail, and your honesty about the sources of your information is very commendable. I encourage you to continue with this great work.
Love your channel
I hope you carry in making long form videos, ngl i kind of miss not bein addicted to the quick dopamine hits if shorts and tik tok
Your channel is peak Strauss and Howe. Given your age, your generational archetype is The Hero, same as the GIs. It's not a coincidence you're drawn to nerding out on military history.
This video was awesome and it is so cool to learn about history like this! I have recently been getting into collecting and reenacting because of this channel, and I have a question. I recently was gifted an American canteen from 1944 and one from 1918, and I was curious if the original ones were safe to drink out of (if they contained lead)? Love this channel!
This guy is seriously one of the coolest people I have discovered as of now. You have inspired me to get into reenacting after watching all of your videos. If you or someone who knows sees this, what websites do you look at for reenacting gear?
Well done
I love your channel so much man your enthusiasm and sheer interest in WW2 is so cool, just like me I have such a strong interest in it. Not such why but WW2 stands out alot for me, keep the awesome vids and shorts coming man I watch them all. Soooo fascinating and I've learnt A LOT!
I love your videos
2:51 oh wow you taught me something! I thought stamped recievers like mine couldn't use one, great video!!!
Just sent your channel to my brother in the military
The trigger guards had the rear hole so that they could be taken down by inserting a cartridge and pulling rearward to take down the rifle. This is 30 year old information. I was told that you only needed cartridge of m2 ball to field strip an M1. I own a 1,5xx,xxx Springfield and a 5,5xx,xxx International Harvester M1. Both purchased through the CMP.
As always, great video. I expect this trigger was designed to be used with mittens and squeezed vs. pulled. Also, as I understand it -and knowing something about how soldiers think- I expect the guys killed in the Cosmoline explosion you mentioned were using gasoline as a solvent, very common at the time. Semper Fi!
I can totally see having that winter trigger assembly during the Korean War. Having mittens on at -20 deg that trigger would be a must. I would imagine being in the North during the battle of Chosen Reservoir and having 100k Chinese troops attacking, a negelant discharge wouldn't be a concern.
So regarding the hole on the rear of the trigger guard the official army manuals state that the only tools necessary for maintenance for the average soldier would be the cleaning rod and a dummy cartridge. Anything beyond regular maintenance that couldn’t be resolved via a small number of actions would require the armorer to work on the rifle as opposed to the regular soldier.
really interesting
Just sent your channel to my brother in service
I guess it's a loose/loose situation. Either risk firing off a shot trying to squeeze your gloves finger inside the trigger guard, or risk it by having an unguarded trigger.
Very nice piece of historical info! Do you ever get to do re-enactments in the winter with snow everywhere?
Having gone to the range in trigger mitten weather, I can attest to the difficulty of firing a rifle wearing bulky gloves of mittens. The M-16 (base, A!, and A2) has a pin in the trigger guard that can be removed so that the guard can be moved out of the way for use with trigger mittens or gloves. It's not as unsafe at winter trigger.
Better but still unsafe as allows a branch to snag the trigger
Gotta love that Garand ping
I have a Garand with the stamped trigger guard. A few years ago, I purchased a winter trigger. It did not come with the adapter for the stamped guard, it came with a new machined guard. Now, I have both guards and the winter trigger. Also, I don’t see the advantage of the winter trigger to keep from having to put a gloved finger in the guard as you have to put the gloved finger in the guard to take the rifle off safe. I believe if someone was using the trigger, they may have the tendency to leave the safety off. Hence, as you say, much more dangerous.
My great grandfather served in world war two he survived pearl harbor and he sailed almost everywhere he later retired from the navy when he was a chief warrant officer
Great video, cool watches for sure. Do you own any from praesidus?
The winter trigger I've seen in a U.S. army technical manual attaches to the stock and is intended to be used while wearing mittens.
The Germans where smart when making the winter trigger chosing the trigger be in the same spot but slightly move to right out of the trigger protecter thing, so when they normally grab the gun there fine.
My dad was in WWII, him and his platoon just cut a bit off the trigger finger off the glove. For the record, he was in the European Theater and fought through a few Winters.
Never knew this
You also can use the safty with the standard winter trigger
Well done for learning all of this me a WW2 lover I didn’t know this
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A member of our Marine Corps League was in the Chosin battle. He said to they had to keep a round chambered and the safety off.
Cool!
Biggest question about it is, would you have to tense up to squeeze that with more pressure though? if so I could see the possible problem of the sight posts going off-target during the squeezing
That BAR winter trigger looks a lot like the WWII kar 98 winter trigger.
Good, interesting info on that item. Didn't know the Germans had them either, but it makes sense considering the Eastern Front. Keep up the great work.
Winter triggers are mainly for use with mittens. To prevent ADs use the safety.
Looks useful for "walking fire".
If the trigger guard were removable anyway, why wouldn't they just make a larger winter trigger guard that could fit a whole mitten inside? I understand that a huge guard would be less protective than a regular sized one, but surely it would still be safer than completely bypassing it, right?
Look at the Winter trigger on the BM-59 it's a bit different, but effective.
My dad who is 92 served during the Korean war fought at Twin Tunnels and Chipyong-ni
I have a box of these. My Uncle picked them up at a post when they were throwing them out in the 70s.
Wisdom you should do a video on the british automatic m1 garand😊😅
Love your channel 🫡
9:34 that is the image on a AS/42 Armored car, its Italian and could have either an anti aircraft weapon mounted on it or an Anti-Armor rifle.
& aye bro, not so related to this video but I got a question 'ere by the way: Sometimes I heard that during WW2, Army soldiers & Marines could be seen wearing their M1923 cartridge belts across their shoulders, just as like wearing the standard 6-pack bandoliers. Is that fact true? If yes, did ya have any exact proofs for it & can ya show 'em for us in your next short? Thank you
I’m wanting to get into WWII reenacting. Any suggestions where to get gear from? And would you have any tips?
A former co-worker who got drafted in the 1960's related being being issued cosmoline covered M14's. Their Sargeant told them to strip down and take a very hot shower with their rifle to clean the cosmoline off. He said it worked fairly well. I assume fresh cosmoline is easier to remove, because the aged cosmoline I have dealt with is not.
I bought one of the Korean war winter trigger just to say I have one. I tried shooting my Garand with it installed and I hated it. It the trigger feels much worse, which decreases accuracy and I also did not like the safety concerns that you mentioned.
My opinion; just have a bigger trigger guard like on the Krag Jørgensen or cut of the trigger guard with a hacksaw.
Can you talk about the navy helmet with the gray stripe
Question:
Wouldn't the safety stop the winter trigger from firing the weapon?
To get rid of Cosmoline on small parts just boil them, then spray them with oil.
Wow
Hello Guy i saw few time ago, you talk about blank weapon and different weapon in this video. I don’t remember witch one is
I wonder how the accuracy would be?It might make squeezing off more natural.
have you been to the springfield armory museum?
Where did you get the Marksman T-Shirt?
Do you know what kind of belt buckle an enlisted soldier in the U.S. Army during WW2 would have worn?
I am 12 and I really want to be a reenactor of ww1, I love your videos and find them really interesting, can you tell me where you get all of your gear and helmets?
what ur opinion on the sten gun
Louisville Kentucky made M1 stocks during WWII
These also operate if you push down on them.
I will be going on a reenactment of the battle of the bulge and i will be carying my m1 carbine with me could you maybe make a video of al the sorts of winter triggers i cant find anything online
He looks like Zussman from cod ww2 wich is fitting for him.
Personally, I prefer framing that puts your face closer to the top of the screen rather than dead centre, seems like it leaves a bunch of dead space above you, and seems somewhat unsettling for some reason
I’ll be wearing a beach battalion helmet and if you come where your beach, bedtime and helmet too thanks
PLEASE SHOW US HOW THE GARAND SHOT 😩
Check at Forgotten Weapons
Hey www, ive been looking into trying to do some re enactments, specifically d day ohio, and i was wandering as a 16 year old, can you participate in combat scenarios?
Are they rare?
If you are working with cosmoline (petroleum solvent) you should always wearing rubber gloves.
Varför visar du avtryckaren 20 ggr.... men funktionen 1 ggr ?
Can’t wait for him to say “In world war 2” in the start of the video