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TiCN (titanium carbo nitride) is actually quite comparable to DLC. It has a hardness in excess of 80 hrc. What's cool about pairing it with Rex45? You don't compromise the heat treatment of Rex45 by coating it, because Rex45 is tempered at around 1000°F, while TiCN is applied at a temperature of 700-800°F. So this blade should have a hardness in the 66 hrc range.
@@metal_complex Looks like I undersold it, actually! This is Spyderco's description: "Titanium Carbonitiride Coating A ceramic film coating that is hard (92Rc) less than 3 microns thick. It provides high abrasion resistance and low friction coefficient."
@@blueswan2175 Usually, but it depends on the temper of the blade you're talking about. What compromises a heat treat is exceeding the temperature at which the steel was tempered. Most knife steels are tempered between 300-400 degrees. Rex45, however, is a rare exception where the optimal temper is around 1000 degrees, so heating it to 450F (or even 800F) will have zero effect on the heat treat.
Yup. Pretty popular in the gun world. All the gold barrels and parts are usually this coating. There are crapy ones, but when done right it also adds lubricity which makes parts easier to clean
I added a calendar reminder and ordered immediately - GP Knives site was struggling a bit, but the order got through. This is my favorite Spyderco model and I don't have a knife with Rex 45 yet....and this one just looks awesome
thanks for video MC. Smock has been on my short list for a while wasn't thrilled about the satin S30V fake carbon fiber standard version. will probably buy some aftermarket scales but the coated REX 45 is COOL. in the words of MC "thats like taking a Honda Civic and putting a Dodge Demon motor in it."
small tip on dyeing white G-10, Dye a GOOD bit darker than you'd like, itll lighten up considerably, extra in contact points with your hands. almost like a heat map.
Thanks MC - that "Storm Trooper" Smock is cool! I would kind of prefer it in an OD Green G10 with the same blade (instead of white G10), but that's just me. I actually don't have a Smock yet. It's strange; I'm kind of the opposite: I like the looks of several other Spyderco's (e.g. PM2, Shaman, Manix 2, etc.) MUCH MORE than the Smock. I always thought the Smock was kind of strange & dorky looking (as with the Gayle Bradley 2 and the Yojimbo 2), so I never any of bought them. Now that I'm a total Spyderco fan-geek, I have added the Smock, Gayle Bradley, and Yojimbo to my "Wishlist" of knives I plan to buy. There is some kind of "mental transition" that happens with Spyderco knives after you start buying and using them - they somehow mentally transform from dorky to cool . . . except the Spy Opera - that knife is still UGGGGGLEEEE (to me)!
Very happy I got one. I think the price is very fair considering the pricing of the basic smock in s30v. Plus I’m a Spyderco fan. It’s going to make a great edc blade.
Best thing I ever did for my smock was a Skiff bearing swap and deleting the secondary spring and detent ball. The compression lock and detent ball offers PLENTY of a snappy detent for the blade! But doing those 2 changes would make for a great video! Thanks as always for the killer content 🤘
Assuming you have never ordered a Kunwu until now? It will likely take a few months to arrive and that will be after it leaves pre order and I don't know how long that's gonna last but it's still going on.
The Smock is a very neat looking knife and is fun to flip, but sadly, the hand placement and poor choil choice leaves my hand back from the blade, which leaves me wanting more. Fun to look at, but not so much to use.
Man I’m glad this sold out quickly because there’s no reason I need one since I have the M4 version but they sure do look cool! I wouldn’t be surprised if we see some other smock exclusives come around since only a few of the other usual suspect dealers had them come out before things got backed up. There’s a dinged up red M390 smock of legend out there that you might know something about MC.
I find the deployment mid. When I started using it, it really threw me off there was no jimping on the the flipper portion of the blade. It could use more texture.
Right?! It took until 8:05 before it would get past the initial cart screen! But it’s already out the door before the end of the day?! Really awesome! I clicked on this video minutes before the drop so I got really lucky!
I bought this immediately 9:58 to be exact lol..Ive been steel collecting lately and really wanting Rex 45. I want a super steel that sharpens like 14c or NitroV, which are the only steels I can get to hair whittling sharp. I hear Rex 45 will take insane edges.
You are killing me mc. I didn't even know this model existed, and I had to buy it. Just please do me a favor and take a break till the beginning of next year. I gotta afford christmas gifts as well man.
The absolute best factory edges ive experienced come out of Taiwan as well. On the other hand the absolute worst edges I've experienced come from the benchmade factory out of Oregon lol. The US spydies have decent edges too but they just arent as good.
Man, i dunno , my ass still hurts from paying $250 for a sprint run "Siren" with s90v and cf handles. i love the way it says " Golden Colo. USA , Earth ! very similar blade shape ❤
I love your show, I watch every video. One of the only things I disagree with.... is the fact you think spyderco knives look bad except that one. I don't like the look of that one lol. Still love the show. Keep doing what you do sir, I know you will.
The stormtrooper smock!!! YaY!!! The standard smock is $228.00. So that is a $17.00 difference. Whoop dee fu**ing doo!!! If it was made here in the USA it would be easily $350 to $450! Maybe even higher.
For how expensive most spydercos are I don’t this is actually all that bad for a sprint run of a really good model with Rex 45 lol I’d buy it if they would start doing a polished dlc on them
They very much do! Most of their black blades are DLC. This smock isn’t marketed as dlc the site says TiCN very comparable to dlc. The recent rex76 from gpknives is DLC
@ ok cool I thought a lot of there black blades were dlc but after hearing about this one I wasn’t sure. One of the few companies I actually don’t own a knife from which is sad to say.
Really love my Spydie Smock, but i gotta say, for what i paid for it - about $300 CDN - and with s30v blade steel, i think it’s overpriced - like all Spydercos.
I agree to a point. Based on materials and build quality you can find equivalents for less. It should be mentioned that a number of their knives are still made in the US. Not all are outsourced. I think the smock is though, made in Taiwan. I think what sets Spyderco apart is their willingness and ability to utilize more exotic steels that give us “collectors fever”. “I got a fever, and the only prescription is more steel choices!” They keep pumping out newer versions like this of popular models, we’ll keep buying them. I like the smock a lot, I don’t own rex45. That’s a collectors dream combo. The temptation is REAL.
Old knife, new materials, Spyderco is boring, same shit different steel. Prices went up. To be fair, Benchmade at least got new designs, these are same same and same again.
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TiCN (titanium carbo nitride) is actually quite comparable to DLC. It has a hardness in excess of 80 hrc. What's cool about pairing it with Rex45? You don't compromise the heat treatment of Rex45 by coating it, because Rex45 is tempered at around 1000°F, while TiCN is applied at a temperature of 700-800°F. So this blade should have a hardness in the 66 hrc range.
If this is true, it's news to me. Thanks for the info
@@metal_complex Looks like I undersold it, actually! This is Spyderco's description:
"Titanium Carbonitiride Coating
A ceramic film coating that is hard (92Rc) less than 3 microns thick. It provides high abrasion resistance and low friction coefficient."
@@BladeLabMiami once you go over 450F you start to compromise the heat treat
@@blueswan2175 Usually, but it depends on the temper of the blade you're talking about. What compromises a heat treat is exceeding the temperature at which the steel was tempered. Most knife steels are tempered between 300-400 degrees. Rex45, however, is a rare exception where the optimal temper is around 1000 degrees, so heating it to 450F (or even 800F) will have zero effect on the heat treat.
Yup. Pretty popular in the gun world. All the gold barrels and parts are usually this coating. There are crapy ones, but when done right it also adds lubricity which makes parts easier to clean
I added a calendar reminder and ordered immediately - GP Knives site was struggling a bit, but the order got through. This is my favorite Spyderco model and I don't have a knife with Rex 45 yet....and this one just looks awesome
I had the GPK Manix 2 LW exclusive in Rex45, pretty awesome
thanks for video MC. Smock has been on my short list for a while wasn't thrilled about the satin S30V fake carbon fiber standard version. will probably buy some aftermarket scales but the coated REX 45 is COOL. in the words of MC "thats like taking a Honda Civic and putting a Dodge Demon motor in it."
small tip on dyeing white G-10, Dye a GOOD bit darker than you'd like, itll lighten up considerably, extra in contact points with your hands. almost like a heat map.
I agree about Taiwan craftsmanship as someone who manufacturers alloy parts over there regularly, and still prioritizes US made knives at high dollar.
Im so glad I held out on picking up a smock until now Rex45 is one of my favorite blade steels thanks for bringing this to our attention MC!!
Oooh ima add this to my "stormtroopers" white knife collection
Thanks MC - that "Storm Trooper" Smock is cool! I would kind of prefer it in an OD Green G10 with the same blade (instead of white G10), but that's just me. I actually don't have a Smock yet. It's strange; I'm kind of the opposite: I like the looks of several other Spyderco's (e.g. PM2, Shaman, Manix 2, etc.) MUCH MORE than the Smock. I always thought the Smock was kind of strange & dorky looking (as with the Gayle Bradley 2 and the Yojimbo 2), so I never any of bought them. Now that I'm a total Spyderco fan-geek, I have added the Smock, Gayle Bradley, and Yojimbo to my "Wishlist" of knives I plan to buy. There is some kind of "mental transition" that happens with Spyderco knives after you start buying and using them - they somehow mentally transform from dorky to cool . . . except the Spy Opera - that knife is still UGGGGGLEEEE (to me)!
Very happy I got one. I think the price is very fair considering the pricing of the basic smock in s30v. Plus I’m a Spyderco fan. It’s going to make a great edc blade.
We need a salt smock
My 5th or 6th sprint run smock, this ones up there with the S90V CF smock, excellent knife and good looking for a spyderco.
Cool knife, I just wish the choil was bigger. Right now the Vosteed Psyop does everything I want this knife to do for the same price.
Can’t believe this is already out of stock at around 3:00 on the same day when I checked!! Truly bummed out about missing this one 😢!!
I mean, you had 5 hours to buy one. I checked at 2:30 and they still had them
One of my favorite knives ❤ added to cart and on the way
Best thing I ever did for my smock was a Skiff bearing swap and deleting the secondary spring and detent ball. The compression lock and detent ball offers PLENTY of a snappy detent for the blade!
But doing those 2 changes would make for a great video! Thanks as always for the killer content 🤘
For me personally , I like this knife and the Shaman because they don't look like the traditional Spyderco knives and they are both great knives.
Thanks MC! I ordered an Excalibur in DLC last week…think they will ship this year? Merry Christmas! 🎁🎄
Assuming you have never ordered a Kunwu until now? It will likely take a few months to arrive and that will be after it leaves pre order and I don't know how long that's gonna last but it's still going on.
@ Tks..I have bought a Padre from White Mountain to try them out. Of course I got that in a week. Guess we will see huh? 🤔
We will ship around Christmas. Takes about a month to get to you from Kunwu. Expect arrival in late Jan/early Feb unless we announce otherwise
@@metal_complex Tks!
I love the spidey holes but the smock looks better because it’s not so tall. I’m sure it will carry great in pocket.
This is by far the best looking Spyderco.
I would have like to have seen you put the 940 and some other similarly shaped knives next to it.
The Smock is a very neat looking knife and is fun to flip, but sadly, the hand placement and poor choil choice leaves my hand back from the blade, which leaves me wanting more. Fun to look at, but not so much to use.
Just ordered. Thanks!
GPK is out... Is that the ONLY dealer selling?
@fat_biscuits3928 it's a GPK Exclusive so yes
@@metal_complex Sell me the one you have... LOL I'm on the list for when they drop again. Thank you! Maybe I'll get lucky?
Man I’m glad this sold out quickly because there’s no reason I need one since I have the M4 version but they sure do look cool! I wouldn’t be surprised if we see some other smock exclusives come around since only a few of the other usual suspect dealers had them come out before things got backed up. There’s a dinged up red M390 smock of legend out there that you might know something about MC.
If they had a left handed version, I might get one, but I have a hard time with right handed compression locks and buttons.
Love the smock. Grabbed 2 of these beauties.
Rex 45 CVM TNC 🎉 I have a smock personally don’t like the deployment
I find the deployment mid. When I started using it, it really threw me off there was no jimping on the the flipper portion of the blade. It could use more texture.
Did you take out the second detent?
Just bought one! Thank you and dang you at the same time!
Id love to try some rex45. Neeves cutting the glass bottle with it is pretty insane.
Neeves cut glass with Rex 121, similar steel but not the same
@jakefromstatefarm1405 I need it! That's so cool.
It’s not as exciting, but I really want you to review the cru-carta native 5……please
Really want this one, but I just got the PM2 in REX76 so I can’t justify it.
I got both yolo 😂
The website about killed itself but I got one😂
Right?! It took until 8:05 before it would get past the initial cart screen! But it’s already out the door before the end of the day?! Really awesome! I clicked on this video minutes before the drop so I got really lucky!
For that price, how about adding a spring?
I bought this immediately 9:58 to be exact lol..Ive been steel collecting lately and really wanting Rex 45. I want a super steel that sharpens like 14c or NitroV, which are the only steels I can get to hair whittling sharp. I hear Rex 45 will take insane edges.
Where did you buy it? GPKnives is sold out... Hoping I didn't miss the boat.
Yeah Gp knives. They lasted Only a few hours I believe
He’s right about it attracting non spyderco people. It’s about the only spyderco I like the look of.
You are killing me mc. I didn't even know this model existed, and I had to buy it. Just please do me a favor and take a break till the beginning of next year. I gotta afford christmas gifts as well man.
As the Aussie man say “yeah, nah”
REX 45 is m favorite !!!!!!
Bring on the mini Smock!
I’ve always thought the 940 would be better with a hollow grind.
Already got mine ordered!
Aarrgh sold out, and you post is only 5hrs old!!! I really want one of these
Smock is the only Spyderco that is calling me. Cheers. 🏆👐
The absolute best factory edges ive experienced come out of Taiwan as well. On the other hand the absolute worst edges I've experienced come from the benchmade factory out of Oregon lol. The US spydies have decent edges too but they just arent as good.
💯 agree
plunge or top compression, a button lock is a button lock. I would have thought you knew that.
My cat has stolen my micro spyderco. I have looked everywhere 🤷🏼♂️. I would not care but I have had it since 96
Did the little thing not come with enough knives!? 😂
@ apparently not 🐈⬛🐈⬛
Man, i dunno , my ass still hurts from paying $250 for a sprint run "Siren" with s90v and cf handles. i love the way it says " Golden Colo. USA , Earth ! very similar blade shape ❤
Wish this was micro milled aluminum they have the technology
Imagine if Spyderco didn't charge an arm and a leg for their great knives every American will be rocking a Spyderco
Seeing as they sell out so fast i dont think they plan on lowering prices
4 hrs after you posted and they are gone. I'm kinda relieved
Imma have to pick one up because my dad lost my stormtrooper rex45 manix 2 on his trip to south east Asia 😢
My condolences... but if you tried to buy when you posted this comment, I think you may have missed out... :(
I love the look 👀
I love your show, I watch every video. One of the only things I disagree with.... is the fact you think spyderco knives look bad except that one. I don't like the look of that one lol. Still love the show. Keep doing what you do sir, I know you will.
I wish this wasn't a dealer exclusive :( GPKnives doesnt ship to canada
Hey I’m in Ontario and have a way lol
Where in Canada are you?
Damn. Now I'm going to have to find a way to get my hands on that in Canada...
Where in Canada are you? I am in Windsor and can share my secrets to get em over with you
@@knifedaddy5791 I'm in Barrie, bit north of Toronto
“You can use the little hole to flick it out”
Great tuxedo knife
"The smock might"...the smock will...the smock has!! 😅😅😅
Dang, missed it. Good vid!
Looks sick
You are right, and I'm definitely attracted...not for the price though!
ordered! 🙌🏻
Carrying my smock in honor of this video!
I can't wait until Spyderco makes a shiny DLC knife so I can pay $450 for it with the oddest possible G10 color 😅
Dang speed holes.
The stormtrooper smock!!!
YaY!!!
The standard smock is $228.00.
So that is a $17.00 difference. Whoop dee fu**ing doo!!!
If it was made here in the USA it would be easily $350 to $450!
Maybe even higher.
G10 940 is about the same price as this…
It's not just the looks of Spyderco knives I don't like, it's that almost all of them are very uncomfortable to use.
Love it
The less a Spyderco looks like a Spyderco, the better it is.
I like that this actually has a sharpening choil. Most spider spiderco's don't
Its realy cool spyderco i bay 2 month ago
For how expensive most spydercos are I don’t this is actually all that bad for a sprint run of a really good model with Rex 45 lol I’d buy it if they would start doing a polished dlc on them
So spyderco dosent use real dlc on any of there knives?
They very much do! Most of their black blades are DLC. This smock isn’t marketed as dlc the site says TiCN very comparable to dlc. The recent rex76 from gpknives is DLC
@ ok cool I thought a lot of there black blades were dlc but after hearing about this one I wasn’t sure. One of the few companies I actually don’t own a knife from which is sad to say.
Cant wait to snag mine cool 😎
9.4 on the slap
Really love my Spydie Smock, but i gotta say, for what i paid for it - about $300 CDN - and with s30v blade steel, i think it’s overpriced - like all Spydercos.
Not for $245 though come on
All things considered, this particular spyderco isn't nearly the most offensive in terms of price
Not sure if you bought anything in 2024.
I totally agree…$239.99 max
Lol, it's a sprint run. These will appreciate actually
People cry about Benchmade, this is ridiculous and made in Taiwan! Stupid.
Definitely nice but not for that much money. Too many other choices. If it was $150 then ok.
The finger groove being 2 inches away from the cutting edge is off-putting.
30 minutes to figure this out.
What out?
Figure what out?
Whether to buy it at drop
That button looks wonky though.
Because it doesn’t really function as a button lock, it’s basically just a small cylinder piece of metal attached to the compression lock.
@@dylana.601 Got it! Still could have been centered, or smaller hole. Oh well.
Spyderco and Benchmade are both out of touch....this should be $150
You're out of touch
A knife in these materials for $150? Can you please point me to a similar knife in these materials for $250? I might be interested.
I agree to a point. Based on materials and build quality you can find equivalents for less. It should be mentioned that a number of their knives are still made in the US. Not all are outsourced. I think the smock is though, made in Taiwan. I think what sets Spyderco apart is their willingness and ability to utilize more exotic steels that give us “collectors fever”. “I got a fever, and the only prescription is more steel choices!” They keep pumping out newer versions like this of popular models, we’ll keep buying them. I like the smock a lot, I don’t own rex45. That’s a collectors dream combo. The temptation is REAL.
G10 Benchmade 940…
@@parkewalton Eh my factory Paysan is made in Taiwan; good luck finding even a used example for less than $500
Steel liners and g10 for that much money? Come on benchmade, i mean spyderco. This is titanium territory.
Aaaaaaaand it's gone. Sold out. 😢
Right?
Right?
If only I got paid today
Righty only? Na
Meh........nope
Out of stock already.
love spyderco, smock is my least favorite. hate the ergos
Smock is poop
Their already sold out lol.
😂 Taiwan Made for this Price… no no noo
Ah yes because in Golden the quality is better 😂😂
🥱
1st
Old knife, new materials, Spyderco is boring, same shit different steel. Prices went up. To be fair, Benchmade at least got new designs, these are same same and same again.
I mean I get it, but it sold out so... easy to understand their lack of motivation