who would've thought this video would be relevant 13 years later. Im watching this video because I was trying to remember how paladin's changed from TBC to Wrath. Can't wait for Wrath Classic!
i've seen many videos about the changes, but yours is the only one that emotionaly moved me. The music and detail that you added to each describtion was flawless, my birthday was on the 9th when i watched this and i keep coming back to this amazing video, subbed to you for a long time and i have to say this was as fun as watching your raid videos, going retri for 3 years strong and glad we are OP enough to deal balanced dps. For this video. I thank you.
Thanks for the talent preview. I did not know any pallys with a beta key so I had to speculate how we would perform by looking at the talent tree. There was alot of QQ on the forums but from what I have seen pallys are getting a major boost in all 3 trees.
I remember how excited I was when these changes first came out. I remember competing with casters for tanking weapons. Such a pain in the ass. I remember when my guild made it into T6 content and everyone was linking the weapons people wanted. I remember making warlocks mad because they linked a caster dps sword that they thought would look good on a warlock, and I said the stats had paladin tank all over it. I also remember being super happy when the cotton candy mace dropped from Hyjal trash. I miss those days, but I did love when they made strength good for us. Potency was the weapon enchant of choice at the time!
This is the most useful video I have seen in quite a while. You have done an incredible job, many kudos to you my man. The video was very informative, summarizing changes to the pally class. Your choice of music was also very good. Nothing disturbing/boring or anything with yelling. Excellent for reading everything in your video. Again, GREAT job. I thank you :). P.S. You made me want to roll a Pally even more =(.
yea thanks very much> i was a lil worried when reading the new pally talents that we were screwed but after ur guide i realize we are gonna pwn thanks very much!
First i'd like to thank you for the amazing guide. Haven't had the chance to witness 3.0 patches or play them yet, but from this vid im gettin really optimistic. Subscribing is a must for your site :) Thank you again.
Very nicely done. Excited about Divine Storm are you? :P Oh and thank you for using rather subtle music instead of subjecting us to over-played radio crap.
Good Freaking Info! A lot of people downed me for holding onto Ret even after I hit lvl 70. I constantly ignored them as i struggled to make the Lionheart Executioner and bless that baby with Mongoose. Seeing as how my ret pally was based off of crit and not raw str. if all the right buffs went off i was able to achieve up to 43% crit. This video really helps me understand the changes made for the new patch. Finally, a RetRibuTion gets an AOE worth fighting FOR!! Gonna bring to the BG's!!
Im mostly a casual player but the changes to my tankadin are just so crazy awesome! I get to use a real tanking weapon and they fixed my mana problems. Im just so excited.
Seal of Martyr is the equivalent of Blood not vengeance, and Martyr or Blood is not something you would use for tanking as it takes away health based on damage you do, its more for Retribution Paladins in dungeons or raids. Though you are using vengeance in the video which is fine for tanking, or righteousness or wisdom.
well if you are reti you should use reti aura not only it sacles (with spell or ap to tired to rember) it also gives the normla 2/3% damge that the old santy aour did it also lets u specc 3% faster weapon swing
say... If you use concecration 24/7 + all attacks (judge, Divine S, CS,) + heal urself with flashes. How long will it take to go OOM if you gpt the mana talent AND JoW on the target? Couse i figgured 5 sec ago: DAMN! concecration with BOTH AP and SP. And if you then duell a shammy or any melee class really (and use on stund against casters) It'll prolly do some sweeeeet dmg. Last thing: Is the ret aura worth it?! I mean, if you specc for dmg u gotta specc haste and imp to right? (to max it)
i want to lvl a paladin on a new server is it a good idea? are they good DPS? or what? the higest i got was a 32 pally it bored me but that was like in 2.0.1 days...
OOOOOOOHHHH MAN! this new oatch came out yesterday and sealsl last 30 minutes!!! It's soo good not wasting 150 mana everly 2 minutes I LOVE THIS NEW PATCH!
This is what i've waited for Now Ret Paladins can kick some Huge ass! and we won't get dry on mana so damn quick :D also this will give a huge adventage in Northrend since theres many undeads and paladins breaks undeads in the matter of seconds! Hehe i can't wait! ^^
5/5 great vid. looking forward to next week vids.. you only need to upgrade your youtube account, so you can put out vids in better quality now, then your up there beside wowhobbs and torxan in palla vids. :)
But then u wont get sweet dmg from other stuff such as -20% attributes and 20% dmg back from crits. The thing I was thinking was to change my auras after who i fight (frost, fire, shadow and devo aura). Or am i wrong? I havent tested retri aure on ptr so u tell me plz :) AHAHAHA! noone heard the Audio preview when He say dmg? xD
and your point is? if its a spell casting cloak it could be considered a ninja loot but that seems a tad unclear from your message. and the stats i mentioned there are the separate stats i would recommend for DPSing. of course they are better the more of them you can get on one item. but i see no reason to downrate my comment since i said nothing wrong at all. downrating is btw not used to determine if a post is good or not it is to determine wether a post is inappropiate or not. get a clue
Level with ret.. you do more damage... BUT if you wanna be a protection paladin at higher levels then i would flat out just go protection all the way through leveling.
Yes. And burst is better for PvP since the fights arent long, and if you dont kill your enemy you put a lot more pressure on his healer than if you do sustained dps. For PvE, it doesnt really matter if your dmg is burst or sustained, the point is to deal dps as fast as possible...4k on KT with burst = 4K with sustained
@Shetyre you're misinterpreting Divine shield with Divine protection. Divine protection is a better fail-safe because Divine shield drops 50% of your damage done and all aggro. So for tanks, just mitigating 50% of your damage with Divine Protection is the choice 'shield' to use. Holy paladins are really the only class to get a proper good use out of 'Divine sheild' For rets and protections it's really an 'ohsnap the raid is dying, I don't wanna' button.
blood elves are the most powerful holy paladins, becuase of their int stats, but as they are horde and the only paladins on that side it doesnt really matter, draenai would be the best for holy on the alliance side becuase of their talents.
hybridpupet u need to have a lvl 55 on that server they have changed it :( they have said they will add that feature in later content.. and btw Arthas won't be killable till the LAST content patch of the WotLK expansion so expect different raids until then...
i will explain u :) DK copy paladin : for aura ,blood spec is the same dmg/heal as the paladin when use judgement of light! , Instant heal ..hum is the same with instant flash heal (ret pala) DK copy lock : for the pet Ghoul can stun if u compare as the dog (lock) he can silence, Death coil is not the same but very strong for a plate wearer. Finally if u compare dk template u can found any skill on these class (pala,warrior and lock ) i hope u understand :)
This video was amazing,music was sexual, and the ending made me break out the crisco and a shot glass. 5/5. I am like 2 points at 58 away from divine storm but lvling with another ret pally, i kinda want to try prot- but warrior make me cry when i see there 20k health = OP
who would've thought this video would be relevant 13 years later. Im watching this video because I was trying to remember how paladin's changed from TBC to Wrath. Can't wait for Wrath Classic!
I think of this video often, for some reason. You're a legend!
i've seen many videos about the changes, but yours is the only one that emotionaly moved me. The music and detail that you added to each describtion was flawless, my birthday was on the 9th when i watched this and i keep coming back to this amazing video, subbed to you for a long time and i have to say this was as fun as watching your raid videos, going retri for 3 years strong and glad we are OP enough to deal balanced dps. For this video. I thank you.
Thanks for the talent preview. I did not know any pallys with a beta key so I had to speculate how we would perform by looking at the talent tree. There was alot of QQ on the forums but from what I have seen pallys are getting a major boost in all 3 trees.
I remember how excited I was when these changes first came out. I remember competing with casters for tanking weapons. Such a pain in the ass. I remember when my guild made it into T6 content and everyone was linking the weapons people wanted. I remember making warlocks mad because they linked a caster dps sword that they thought would look good on a warlock, and I said the stats had paladin tank all over it. I also remember being super happy when the cotton candy mace dropped from Hyjal trash. I miss those days, but I did love when they made strength good for us. Potency was the weapon enchant of choice at the time!
This is the most useful video I have seen in quite a while. You have done an incredible job, many kudos to you my man. The video was very informative, summarizing changes to the pally class. Your choice of music was also very good. Nothing disturbing/boring or anything with yelling. Excellent for reading everything in your video.
Again, GREAT job.
I thank you :).
P.S.
You made me want to roll a Pally even more =(.
Seeing your comment from 12 years ago still preserved is amazing
Thank you so much Atraira. I'm glad to have such a knowledgeable person on my watch list.
u put it out perfectly for ppl that havent gone to the beta or the ptr.
yea thanks very much> i was a lil worried when reading the new pally talents that we were screwed but after ur guide i realize we are gonna pwn thanks very much!
First i'd like to thank you for the amazing guide.
Haven't had the chance to witness 3.0 patches or play them yet, but from this vid im gettin really optimistic.
Subscribing is a must for your site :)
Thank you again.
Thank you for explaining the new talents and what nots
Very nicely done. Excited about Divine Storm are you? :P Oh and thank you for using rather subtle music instead of subjecting us to over-played radio crap.
Atraira you rock! my favourite pally of all time!? i'd so say so, most definately. Much thanks on this summary of paladin changes.
FAMING MC for those pants 5:04 for 3 mounths now and no luck
NOT GIVING UP!!!!
Good Freaking Info!
A lot of people downed me for holding onto Ret even after I hit lvl 70. I constantly ignored them as i struggled to make the Lionheart Executioner and bless that baby with Mongoose. Seeing as how my ret pally was based off of crit and not raw str. if all the right buffs went off i was able to achieve up to 43% crit. This video really helps me understand the changes made for the new patch. Finally, a RetRibuTion gets an AOE worth fighting FOR!! Gonna bring to the BG's!!
5/5 i love your videos keep it up! very informative all us pallys not currently playing bets appreciate it alot. ty keat of greymane.
at about 7 minutes in, you mistake Redoubt for Reckoning xD.
Thanks for the video though on all the updates.
I love your keyboard turning.
Great video Invisusira :)
No, it should be out next week.
This video was filmed on Beta.
i miss the old paladin :[ brings back so many memories watching this video
I miss you
I miss you too
Oh my goodddddd pls don't tease me ; ;
love the music where did u get it? :P and blood elfs dont look that awsome as pallys as the one in this vid
ty for this vid this should help my pally alot
the patch will be out on both the 14th and 15th. 14th for the US and 15th for Europe. hope that settles arguments?
im so happy! i think i... have tears right now!
REt pally ftw!
Im mostly a casual player but the changes to my tankadin are just so crazy awesome! I get to use a real tanking weapon and they fixed my mana problems. Im just so excited.
Nice guide thx for making it
i love prot pali and i love getting into groups so easily lol. and its pretty nice for leveling i pull like 10-20 guys at one time.
The end of the movie was very cool because of the music ;p
awesome video man *thumbs up*
Seal of Martyr is the equivalent of Blood not vengeance, and Martyr or Blood is not something you would use for tanking as it takes away health based on damage you do, its more for Retribution Paladins in dungeons or raids. Though you are using vengeance in the video which is fine for tanking, or righteousness or wisdom.
Still no name for the awesome song?
Could you please tell me the items of your transmogification?
well if you are reti you should use reti aura not only it sacles (with spell or ap to tired to rember) it also gives the normla 2/3% damge that the old santy aour did it also lets u specc 3% faster weapon swing
Yes that does look totally sweet.
say... If you use concecration 24/7 + all attacks (judge, Divine S, CS,) + heal urself with flashes. How long will it take to go OOM if you gpt the mana talent AND JoW on the target?
Couse i figgured 5 sec ago: DAMN! concecration with BOTH AP and SP.
And if you then duell a shammy or any melee class really (and use on stund against casters) It'll prolly do some sweeeeet dmg.
Last thing: Is the ret aura worth it?! I mean, if you specc for dmg u gotta specc haste and imp to right? (to max it)
amazing, thanks a lot!
I know he is using thunderfury as a tankadin ...but what is the 2h ret weapon he is useing?
Oops! Good catch!
Well next patch they will it was pretty face roll for a while but now I think it'll be much better...Great vid btw
Dude the music is sick
i want to lvl a paladin on a new server is it a good idea? are they good DPS? or what?
the higest i got was a 32 pally it bored me but that was like in 2.0.1 days...
thanks, thisll relly help, how did you know about it?
Have my babies. This cleared up everything i needed to know xD
OOOOOOOHHHH MAN! this new oatch came out yesterday and sealsl last 30 minutes!!! It's soo good not wasting 150 mana everly 2 minutes I LOVE THIS NEW PATCH!
cant wait for these changes, im gonna respec my pally to ret so he can level. prot leveling as is fails on a mass level due to bad gear.
by the old paladin do you mean palidins quest 1?
wait didnt the buble allways worked that way to shield you for 12 seconds ?
10 min of guide?
I think that 1 word is enough: *faceroll* XD
kiddin, btw great video
Yeah! Any1 knows when its comming out?
what racial skills do they have now?
This is what i've waited for Now Ret Paladins can kick some Huge ass! and we won't get dry on mana so damn quick :D also this will give a huge adventage in Northrend since theres many undeads and paladins breaks undeads in the matter of seconds! Hehe i can't wait! ^^
i might be getting wow got any tips for a newb
porque ya no vuelves a hacer videos :,C
modelos nuevos están tentando....
starting to become glad i rolled a paladin, now druids and priests wont be so damn prefered at raids
patches come on tuesdays, the 14th is a tuesday. besides, its been confirmed already
Excellent video, than you.
IF you choose Horde, you can only be Blood Elf, and I think on ally human is best but I'm not sure
Thunderfury Blessed Blade of the Windseeker (Legendary) Molten Core Drops that start a Quest line.
ummm...the patch is here i installed it just waitin for realms to com up.
@walshie what? i dont understand ^^; lol
is prot pali or ret better
and the bubble i recall only does half and u can still atack
5/5 great vid. looking forward to next week vids.. you only need to upgrade your youtube account, so you can put out vids in better quality now, then your up there beside wowhobbs and torxan in palla vids. :)
I feel so old!
But then u wont get sweet dmg from other stuff such as -20% attributes and 20% dmg back from crits.
The thing I was thinking was to change my auras after who i fight (frost, fire, shadow and devo aura).
Or am i wrong? I havent tested retri aure on ptr so u tell me plz :)
AHAHAHA! noone heard the Audio preview when He say dmg? xD
It look like Trollbane from ZA but i'm not totally sure.
where the hell did she get that sword and wat is it called?
and your point is? if its a spell casting cloak it could be considered a ninja loot but that seems a tad unclear from your message. and the stats i mentioned there are the separate stats i would recommend for DPSing. of course they are better the more of them you can get on one item. but i see no reason to downrate my comment since i said nothing wrong at all. downrating is btw not used to determine if a post is good or not it is to determine wether a post is inappropiate or not. get a clue
what gear is that and wep
depends on yor style of play
prot is the basic tank build
ret is the basic dps build
it realy depends
very NICE and USEFULL VID...ty... i now understand how to use some things ;;;;;;;;;;D
You can Exorism on anything now
Level with ret.. you do more damage... BUT if you wanna be a protection paladin at higher levels then i would flat out just go protection all the way through leveling.
wait is patch 3.0 out?
Nice man! pallys new stuff guide. i liek :)
Yes. And burst is better for PvP since the fights arent long, and if you dont kill your enemy you put a lot more pressure on his healer than if you do sustained dps. For PvE, it doesnt really matter if your dmg is burst or sustained, the point is to deal dps as fast as possible...4k on KT with burst = 4K with sustained
you wouldnt say that in patch 2.4
This was made before that was possible, back when you had to download skins onto your character for a unique look.
@Shetyre you're misinterpreting Divine shield with Divine protection.
Divine protection is a better fail-safe because Divine shield drops 50% of your damage done and all aggro. So for tanks, just mitigating 50% of your damage with Divine Protection is the choice 'shield' to use.
Holy paladins are really the only class to get a proper good use out of 'Divine sheild' For rets and protections it's really an 'ohsnap the raid is dying, I don't wanna' button.
i'm so glad i rolled a paladin
Nice video 5stars
i remember this, we all had so much optimism coming out of the high that was tbc
didnt end up as good though
Ahhh memories 😁
blood elves are the most powerful holy paladins, becuase of their int stats, but as they are horde and the only paladins on that side it doesnt really matter, draenai would be the best for holy on the alliance side becuase of their talents.
ah sweet i need to start playing again i guess
7:21 - 7:28 The 2nd shield is written shiled :) just telling u cause ive seen uve wanted to correct ur video . GJ btw
Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker
or something like that.
str, ap, crit, haste, hit, expertise
those are the PvE stats i would recommend to any melee dpser
hybridpupet u need to have a lvl 55 on that server they have changed it :( they have said they will add that feature in later content.. and btw Arthas won't be killable till the LAST content patch of the WotLK expansion so expect different raids until then...
I love your videos
i will explain u :)
DK copy paladin : for aura ,blood spec is the same dmg/heal as the paladin when use judgement of light! , Instant heal ..hum is the same with instant flash heal (ret pala)
DK copy lock : for the pet Ghoul can stun if u compare as the dog (lock) he can silence, Death coil is not the same but very strong for a plate wearer.
Finally if u compare dk template u can found any skill on these class (pala,warrior and lock )
i hope u understand :)
also blood elves mana tap and torrent help alot with long fights for the mana it gives, also another reason why they are the best holy paladins.
ok ill keep that in mind
This video was amazing,music was sexual, and the ending made me break out the crisco and a shot glass. 5/5. I am like 2 points at 58 away from divine storm but lvling with another ret pally, i kinda want to try prot- but warrior make me cry when i see there 20k health = OP
cant fing wait
Seal of blood and seal of martyr has been removed :P
na i want to as well, but re rolling a pally is kind of dumb i just like how armor looks on humans better then blood elves lol.