The REVENGE of the NERFED Fw190 A-5 | War Thunder

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  • Опубліковано 15 лис 2024

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  • @the6tharmy
    @the6tharmy  6 місяців тому +22

    No matter how bad the nerfs, I will always fly this thing!

    • @SIDEWIND3R_99
      @SIDEWIND3R_99 6 місяців тому +2

      Hello sixth. Long time no video. What exactly was nerfed in A5? Haven't played fokkewulf for a long time

    • @SIDEWIND3R_99
      @SIDEWIND3R_99 6 місяців тому

      Hello sixth. Long time no video. What exactly was nerfed in A5? Haven't played fokkewulf for a long time

    • @the6tharmy
      @the6tharmy  6 місяців тому +6

      @@SIDEWIND3R_99 Flight model nerf( worse turn, easy to get into flat spin ), thermals nerf ( making it overheat in 1 minute and that makes it impossible to even run on 100% thrust with no WEP...) The plane is pretty done for in this state sadly but I will keep trying to make it work.

    • @georgesfnr
      @georgesfnr 5 місяців тому

      @@the6tharmyUse MEC !

    • @the6tharmy
      @the6tharmy  5 місяців тому +2

      @@georgesfnr MEC doesn't help it. The overheating is just that bad.

  • @RavGW
    @RavGW 6 місяців тому +7

    fella be dogfighting better than I do in spitfire

  • @Someone-qu3lx
    @Someone-qu3lx Місяць тому +4

    I have never seen a fw190 outturn a Bf109 f4

    • @the6tharmy
      @the6tharmy  Місяць тому +3

      @Someone-qu3lx at high speeds yes, 190 turns better.
      At low speeds, 190 by using flaps can also outturn 109.
      Not all 190's can, but some of them can.

  • @mafiagonzalez6215
    @mafiagonzalez6215 6 місяців тому +5

    Upload more frequently bro, also thanks for shooting me down, you guys were in three A-8 with airspawn and there was nothing my team could do!
    But gg wp!

  • @tehzeebtaseen8102
    @tehzeebtaseen8102 4 місяці тому +6

    Man seeing this video made me realise my aim is shit

    • @the6tharmy
      @the6tharmy  4 місяці тому +5

      I trained my aim simply by using the same cannon for a long while.
      If you switch constantly it can be quite hard to adjust.

    • @KekusMagnus
      @KekusMagnus 3 місяці тому +1

      @@the6tharmy the changes to cannon shell drag a year ago really messed with my aim, I can barely hit MG151 shots beyond 500m anymore

    • @the6tharmy
      @the6tharmy  3 місяці тому

      @KekusMagnus yeah it is a shame.

  • @hiddenhidden5339
    @hiddenhidden5339 15 днів тому +3

    Gaijin has actually been secretly and consistently nerfing prop FM's, Soviet's got hit hard during 2024. I-185 also got the 190 treatment.

    • @the6tharmy
      @the6tharmy  14 днів тому +5

      @hiddenhidden5339 I will correct you there.
      You are right about both plane families being nerfed. But there is a difference. Fw190's have been nerfed and kept their battlerating. That is a double blow and hurts them a lot. Fw190's didn't turn that badly and by the advent of the Fw190 A-3 all overheating issues have been solved. So A-4 and A-5's overheating makes no sense.
      Regarding the I-185's they first git downtiered which made their life easier, they then got nerfed, primarily in turn-radius, which although is a nerf, I would rather call a fix. I-185's are very stubby planes with small wings, they never turned well irl. It was a simple interceptor with a good climb rate to get to altitude relatively quickly. They have sacrificed many amenities to keep the weight low and this is the reason it would never be great vs other fighters in a dogfight.
      Conclusion is: Fw190 are truly nerfed, because they are worse in WT than they were in real life.
      I-185's are now closer to what they were in real life.
      Gaijin shows, that they have no idea what they are doing. And Soviets overall don't feel the sting of the nerf of I-185 anyway. They rely on Yak spam anyway. Followed by La's. I-185's are rarely seen.

  • @ladahunful
    @ladahunful 6 місяців тому +5

    Crap climb, shit turn, easily flatspin, weak engine, and lots of hit with 20mms. This was my favourite plane. Remember how good it was, when the max br was 9.3

    • @the6tharmy
      @the6tharmy  6 місяців тому +8

      A real shame, and it makes no sense either. While there are truly OP and broken planes being spammed and abused. The devs who all but abandoned props, as can be seen by the excessive spam of copy paste planes and ridiculous hydroplanes and Rank 1 garbage. They went out of their way and targeted 190's specifically on a grand scale and made them overheat to the point of uselessness. The best cooling system of WW2 is now among the worst, meanwhile He177, TIS-MA, I-225, I-185, ITP, Yak-3 vk-107, La-7 don't overheat despite be known for engine troubles and engine fires, catastrophic failures. Yet the fighter with least overheating issues, actually none, gets hit by this nerf.
      A-5 was the first 190 I really started learning 190's on.
      Many idiots, maining post war experimental super props but also the common Rank 3 undertiered OP plane abuser love the fact that the only Axis plane that could run them down in a dive is now nerfed. A-5 being rekt, means J2M, Ki-84, Yaks and Spitfires and La's can breath easily now.

  • @gregsutton2400
    @gregsutton2400 5 місяців тому +5

    They always modeled the A5 on the Jabo versions with 100s of kilos of belly armor. They banned me from their forums a decade ago for pointing this out. It is almost like they hate German stuff. Weird.

    • @the6tharmy
      @the6tharmy  5 місяців тому +3

      "almost" they surely don't, right?😆

    • @richihart1938
      @richihart1938 5 місяців тому

      "almost"?
      Of course they do

    • @getehrwolf6111
      @getehrwolf6111 3 місяці тому +1

      They also nerfed the Seafire Fr47 from its real life performance, but the yaks get insanely good stuff, even performing better than they did in real life like the Yak3u and the Vk107, ¡they should add how the engines exploded midair for no reason like IRL and those well known structure failures!

  • @elgrandjefe4661
    @elgrandjefe4661 6 місяців тому +5

    Damn just tested it, what a shitshow they did to that plane. Did they screw others, A-8? Doras affected? Seem to fly the same, though I kind of been thinking they go yellow a bit earlier. Might be my impression.

    • @mafiagonzalez6215
      @mafiagonzalez6215 6 місяців тому +8

      A-1 is overheating now. Manageable though but still annoying.
      A-4 has huge overheating issues, you will suffer on hit maps or prolonged fights where you just need WEP all the time.
      All A-5 are borderline useless with flightmodel and severe overheating.
      A-8 and F-8 are untouched and currently have the best cooling and most responsive elevator at high speeds.
      Dora flightmodels are the same, just D-12's elevator is worse for no reason and the Doras including Ta H because it has the same engine as Doras, all overheat more now but they are manageable with MEC.

    • @the6tharmy
      @the6tharmy  6 місяців тому +2

      @@mafiagonzalez6215 damn that is actually a spot on summary. Yeah that is about all that changed in last year.

    • @n00b1eSS
      @n00b1eSS 6 місяців тому +3

      @@mafiagonzalez6215 if they touch my F-8, i'm gonna be sad.

    • @mafiagonzalez6215
      @mafiagonzalez6215 6 місяців тому +4

      @@n00b1eSS A-8 is completely untouched. F-8 though got a small nerf, not too bad but they made F-8 compress more than A-8 past 650km/h.

  • @OrkosUA
    @OrkosUA 6 місяців тому +2

    Snow Elves had a Chantry of Auri-El in Skyrim. The 6th Army has a an individual Cathedral dedicated to each Focke-Wulf aircraft

    • @the6tharmy
      @the6tharmy  6 місяців тому +3

      And you'd be right haha!

  • @cola-warthunder
    @cola-warthunder 5 місяців тому +2

    Back when I was a noob I spammed the A-4. Had terrible KD with it, but atleast when the 20s hit they killed. Now the 190As are actually helples. Well except the A1.

    • @the6tharmy
      @the6tharmy  5 місяців тому +4

      A-8 and F-8 and Doras are still good. Not great but good. A-1 is almost OP at 3.0
      All A-4 + S-5's are garbage now due to overheating and flightmodel nerfs.

  • @leopardo830
    @leopardo830 5 місяців тому +4

    I just discovered your channel cause Im learning how to fly 190s. I never even though you could dogfight an xp50 in the 190. Great vid man

  • @Kaltrademarked
    @Kaltrademarked 6 місяців тому +6

    they should try nerfing that piece of shit xp50 next

    • @the6tharmy
      @the6tharmy  6 місяців тому +2

      agreed

    • @getehrwolf6111
      @getehrwolf6111 3 місяці тому +2

      Yeah, it would've fun seeing their superchargers exploding mid air before they engage in any fight

    • @the6tharmy
      @the6tharmy  3 місяці тому +2

      @@getehrwolf6111 They are so annoying that if that would happen, like it did do the real XP-50, I would have no problem with that.

    • @KekusMagnus
      @KekusMagnus 3 місяці тому +1

      They just need the airspawn removed. It is pure pay to win

    • @the6tharmy
      @the6tharmy  3 місяці тому +2

      @KekusMagnus XP-50 is good for spotting the most dishonorable, cheating, abusing, pieces of sh*t.

  • @savasolarov8424
    @savasolarov8424 6 місяців тому +2

    Very masterful, thanks for the upload. I thought they only nerfed the 190 A5/U14 Torpedo premium one for turn rate and the normal ones were fine ...
    I definitely noticed the overheating issue with MEC though ... If I don't drop down engine throttle to 80% and wait for 30 sec, it just won't cool down the Oil Temps ...
    Please keep making it work!
    I like the music, good choice for the hype!

  • @DougieOh
    @DougieOh 5 місяців тому +3

    All butcher birds all the time. Favorite plane.

  • @Orodreth888
    @Orodreth888 6 місяців тому +4

    They nerfed the FW190? Seriously?

    • @mafiagonzalez6215
      @mafiagonzalez6215 6 місяців тому +5

      A-1, A-4, A-5's and Doras overheat way more now.
      A-1 and Doras are managebale still but the rest are just boilers at this point almost unplayable.
      F-8 and A-8 cooling systems are untouched and pretty much the best of all Fw190s atm.
      A-5 also got a huge flight model nerf and cannot turn as well anymore, now P-51's outturn you which wasn't the case before. You stall super easily by doing a roll or snap roll for which the 190's are famous for but now just flatspin.
      A-5 is borderline unplayable, on hot maps you literally can't even fly more than 80% throttle or you kill your engine in 1 minute.

    • @Orodreth888
      @Orodreth888 6 місяців тому +1

      @@mafiagonzalez6215 Sounds like I was right to switch to allied planes and Germany's early jets. I mean, the FWs never turned well and since I am playing allied planes I basically always win. The Doras were the last straw for me because of BnZ. Oh well...

  • @Wingly_Actual
    @Wingly_Actual 5 місяців тому +2

    Flying the A8 right now

    • @the6tharmy
      @the6tharmy  5 місяців тому +1

      Flying the real plane. o7

  • @GFR2SJust_A_Gamer
    @GFR2SJust_A_Gamer 3 місяці тому +2

    Sorry for putting it like this but what are the diferents betwen the A4 and the A5 ?

    • @the6tharmy
      @the6tharmy  3 місяці тому +2

      @Just_A_French_Gamer No problem, they are basically the same plane but, Hitler wanted all new fighters to also be easily used for bombing missions. So the A-4 was modified to put the engine 30cm forward in order to shift the center of gravity so that bombs can be more easily carried. It also features an upgraded cooling system with better cooling flaps inside and gives the A-5 a better top speed. Other than that, the engine and everything else is identical.

    • @pedrofalcaoseixas2073
      @pedrofalcaoseixas2073 3 місяці тому +1

      @@the6tharmyand I think all of the 20mm cannons are the better mg151 model (two on the a4)

  • @knarfxd4071
    @knarfxd4071 6 місяців тому +1

    This must've hurt... I feel your pain, and that's why the only antons i fly are the a1 and a4

    • @the6tharmy
      @the6tharmy  6 місяців тому +2

      A-1's overheating nerf is annoying, especially on the hot maps but still manageable.
      A-4 is literally the best "A-5" and also has lowest br. At 4.0 and gets 4 cannons. The overheating is still bad but not as unplayable as A-5's.
      The Antons that are not nerfed at all in terms of overheating are the F-8 and A-8. They literally have the best cooling out of all 190's atm.
      A-8 can even run 0 % rads on some maps.
      Doras have been nerfed too but they are manageable like A-1.

    • @knarfxd4071
      @knarfxd4071 5 місяців тому

      @@the6tharmy I never bother with MEC, A1 has enough performance for the overheating not to be that much of an issue imo.
      A4 yeah, not just best A5, but also best anton overall, if only u could take off the mg/ff's to reduce the weight.
      A5's and A/F8 are just boats, not worth flying compared to the 109's next to it...

    • @kyrilgarcia
      @kyrilgarcia 5 місяців тому

      @@the6tharmy good to know that the 8's still work

    • @the6tharmy
      @the6tharmy  5 місяців тому +2

      @@kyrilgarcia 8's are still strong, a squad of them wins the battle in a few minutes.

  • @terrado6746
    @terrado6746 4 місяці тому +6

    WT players complaining tiers:
    Basic player: this plane is soo bad
    Veteran player: to bad is only a BnZ plane
    Gigachad FW player: only 8 kills?! Damm!! I’m getting bad

  • @snowcat9308
    @snowcat9308 6 місяців тому +2

    virual rior!!

  • @fotokozlowski
    @fotokozlowski 6 місяців тому

    Hi Tino ;) Nice video to watch, but I find background music distracting..

  • @Senfkorn1200
    @Senfkorn1200 4 місяці тому

    exept for the music this video is great how did 20 people dislike this this!?

  • @kenworth_tc
    @kenworth_tc 6 місяців тому +2

    very nice 👌👍🫡😁✌️

  • @Redbaron1006-warthunder
    @Redbaron1006-warthunder 5 місяців тому

    how is it nerfed?? I played this plane several times and I managed to reverse a couple people, and gun them down the climbrate isn't too bad and the guns hit hard roll rate is good and diving characteristics are also good I don't see any problem with the aircraft.

    • @the6tharmy
      @the6tharmy  5 місяців тому +2

      All A-5's got a flight model nerf.
      They turn worse, flat spin essier, and lose elevator authority completely under 300km/h.
      They used to be able to turn with P-51's and roll or snap-roll at any speeds but now they just fall outof the sky doing that.
      They also overheat like crazy.
      It was said the overheating will be fixed in next major update.
      Fingers crossed.

    • @Redbaron1006-warthunder
      @Redbaron1006-warthunder 5 місяців тому

      @@the6tharmy I don't really let the overheating issue affect my focus on the battle, I don't use manuel controls either i don't really see it as a problem until the Temp starts flashing red by then i just throttle down to 90%-95% to compensate, other then that idc about the 'overheating' nerf.

    • @the6tharmy
      @the6tharmy  5 місяців тому +1

      @@Redbaron1006-warthunder well you either didn't fly much A-5's or you are pretty useless in it running it at 90%, that is over 200HP loss. You are not climbing or catching or outrunning anything.

    • @Redbaron1006-warthunder
      @Redbaron1006-warthunder 5 місяців тому

      @@the6tharmy I keep my engine at 100% consistency, and I side-climb because of the average climbrate, also its a pretty good headon machine, but the main strength of it is in the reversals, also i try to gain and balance my energy states between altitude and airspeed, i try to get to 5000m and at about 400km/h of airspeed.

    • @Redbaron1006-warthunder
      @Redbaron1006-warthunder 5 місяців тому

      @@the6tharmy You can definitely outrun planes i do that by conserving my speed and energy, plus its hard to rip the 190 especially in a dive.

  • @snowcat9308
    @snowcat9308 6 місяців тому

    WAIT NO NOT ENERGY DRINK PLEASE

    • @the6tharmy
      @the6tharmy  6 місяців тому +2

      Christoph27, a OG 190 master from the golden age of WT used the song in one of his excellent reversal videos. The song has meaning xD due to that.

    • @snowcat9308
      @snowcat9308 6 місяців тому +1

      @@the6tharmy Alright I'll let it pass. I used to love Energy Drink but I listened to it WAY too much as a kid (thanks to UA-cam autoplay), so now it's ruined for me 😭

  • @zackpasya5173
    @zackpasya5173 3 місяці тому +1

    what nerf ? i dont know, tell me pls

    • @the6tharmy
      @the6tharmy  3 місяці тому +2

      Gaijin nerfed the flight model and overheating of the engine. It is pain to fly A-5's right now.

    • @zackpasya5173
      @zackpasya5173 3 місяці тому

      @@the6tharmy oh shit, gaijined ...

    • @oscarpascarau2537
      @oscarpascarau2537 2 місяці тому +3

      ​@@the6tharmy FW 190 a5/u2 went from a favorite to an abysmal dogshit in an instant couldn't believe how bad it was when I first played it after the updated FM

    • @the6tharmy
      @the6tharmy  2 місяці тому +2

      @@oscarpascarau2537 I feel your pain bro, it is sad what they did to the Fw190, but I look at it as a nerf they did in order to stop the 190 mains from punching so much above their weight class, Fw190 is a plane that isn't going to carry pilots by simply being good, it is a plane that expects the pilot to perform instead.

    • @oscarpascarau2537
      @oscarpascarau2537 2 місяці тому +3

      @@the6tharmy You still had to play it intelligently back then but now it does feel rather unrewarding because you put so much effort for way less results