Thanks for sharing your trains and builds. I just discovered your channel today and watched about 10 video's. You deliver pure enjoyment and relaxation at the viewer end. Thanks a heap mate. Never had an interest in trains since my child hood kit wore out... Yeah I wore them out.. I'm out to the our states Train show next month now ( Queensland).. See what you've done... Seriously Thanks for the all your effort and good luck with the new build. The naming of Everard Junction strike a real chord with me.. Great Stuff!
Cheers for the heads up Richard there ordered. I've just build my first helix this evening with the help of your videos I've chosen to take my layout down and rebuild as I've never been happy with it. Thx again for you info Ian
There is a good reason why Hornby fit their couplings to the bodies of their loco's. They get loads of complaints from other modellers saying that fitting it to the bogie makes it unrealistic. I'm afraid it is going to have to be aggressive to disagree. It only hornby though who get that complaint. No one ever says anything about Bachmann doing it..
I imagine people don't want to complain about Bachmann faults because they've paid quite a bit more than what a Hornby loco costs and are feeling rather disappointed!
Managed to purchase a hornby class 50 after seeing your review..just waiting for it to be delivered !..Seeing the HST reminded me of a courier job I had in the 80s..the brakes really stank when you had to stand inbetween carriages as there were no seats on a busy Friday evening from Kings Cross to Peterborough..! glad they dont do that in OO scale..!
very good video,,I had a triang Hornby set as a kid in the UK never forget triying to change the brushes on the motor on them,,whot a job,must be they have changed that by now,,thanks for sharing.
Very good response.I did not intend to take anything away from your efforts in fact I admire what you have done with your layout and locos. I often think how much more realistic layouts would appear having engineers and passengers in the locos. Regards
Any NSE coach is right to be honest. Many of the coaches never got painted out of the early blue. The best ones that match the loco are the bachmann mk2 coaches in the darker blue. I use kadee number 19s most of the time. Some buffers have been glued in the retracted postition to stop them catching.
I agree with what you said about the bachmann intercity swallow livery 37 , i have one myself and it is a fantastic loco , hope to get a few more like her
What a great loco fleet and very well detailed description. I too had the Hornby coupling issues you have mentioned with my class 50's when negotiating any curves, so I've tried them with Bachmann couplings and all seems fine. Overall, exceptional models and very well informed video, I like it very much.
Thats correct. The sprinter scheme and the regional railways colours are very similar so I didn't notice at first. I might redo the decals at some point
I really want to start up this hobby again, very expensive and very limited money though.. :( I've always wanted a bad ass setup like yours, been watching alot of your videos. So glad I found you!
Really enjoyed this video. You have some great looking locos and stock. Just one point about the Class 150 - I did not think they were delivered in the 'Regional Railways' livery, but rather the 'Sprinter' livery, except for the original ones in the Provincial blue scheme.
Virgin mk3 coaches can be found on ebay for ok prices. You should be able to find the coaches you need. A re-paint is possible, but I would not recommend it if you have never done anything like that before.
Exceptionally nice and detailed fleet. Subscribed and liked. I'm in usa and have N scale....but I've developed an appreciation for British models and layouts.
Realy didn't notice at first it was about model railroads as the image was so realistic!! Good paintjob and good weathering!!! For me a bit of a dilemma weathering pricely locos which come beautifully painted out of the box but the result in your case is fantastic and gives a lot of realism on the layout! Overall I think the railroadcompanies need to dedicate themselves more on keeping their fleet nice and clean; which they are doing more nowadays! Thanks for making this nice review!!
From memory the 58 body is just clipped on, best to wedge card down either side to loosen it off. Check the manual, it should tell you in there. The lights are correct for the loco. There is a high beam light on each side, on british locos one side is lit during the day, the other side is used at night. Above the high beam lights there are ordinary running lights on both sides, these are lit all the time.
some nice subtle weathering there, very nice, regarding your coupling issues, I use kadees on the very same models, BUT i remove the n.e.m. socket and mountings totally, as they flex vertically too much for reliable use, I mount a strong pad to the body and fit a standard #5 kadee in it's box to the pad using a height gauge, apart from really tight curves (15" radi or less) and short radius points, I have no problems and some of my trains weight up to 3kg. Rich, R & M Quarries
Great video really enjoyed it !.. especially liked the class 50 review, I was stuck for a second 80's loco on my small layout..but the class 50 has made my mind up..its a big old beast..
I'm aware of 31165, the issue with numbers (particularly Hornby) is that they are printed on and very difficult to get off without damaging the paint underneath. I try to avoid renumbering, if I need to do it I tend to re-spay the loco into a different livery to make it worthwhile.
Thanks Rich, I have thought about it for some models as the nem pockets can have quite a bit of excess movement. At the moment it doesn't cause too much of an issue.
Great review of your fleet..watched it a few times....still very informative..Have to agree the Bachmann decoders they are very good,I use the 36-553 ,Even on a quite old Heljan class 47 (2004-2005) I bought it on Ebay about 3 weeks ago , only ever run on DC..put in a Bachmann 8 pin decoder...runs beautifully smooth ...even at a snails pace .
@djjk26 The best kadees for normal running are the no.19s, you want to get the NEM type that just slot in. I wedge bits of card in the NEM pocket on the loco to adjust the height of the kadee if needed..
I removed the fan belt in my 56's and 31's and they seen to work really well now. Hornby need to review the fan mechanism in the 56's and 31's because ive found you can get incredibly jerky running when the fans start to stutter.
Yet another great Vid. Plenty of loco's there and fantastic detailing. hope to achieve a good standard of weathering my self. have started off on a coach and some wagons. have come quite good i think
I use 19s and haven't had too many issues. Some locos are the wrong height (mostly Hornby). They can be adjusted by packing card above or below the kadee.
Check the back to back wheel measurements on the model, this can cause a lot of derailments if it's out. Also check the bogie can pivot freely, if something is snagging the wheel will jump the rail. As for the detailing coming off just glue it back on. I've had to on a few of my locos.
Thanks, models have has much better 'sealed' motors now. I was a pain with the old types, I used to have an engine with brushes that fell out on every corner. I gave up with that one in the end.
Take the body off (should be 4 screws underneath for a 56). You should then be able to see part of the band in the fan mechanism. I just cut the band and threw it away. Running now much improved.
Any way around leaving the corridoors disconnected, the only obstacle to overcome as far as realism goes, otherwise excellent. love the weathering, including the track.
Thanks for this, a really interesting video! Just one aspect I wasn't quite sure on, how come you use a separate regulated 5V power rail rather than just using a 5V regulator on board the signal circuit (then making use of the unregulated 12V rail?) For me the 5V reg seems like a much simpler and cheaper option, but there's probably something that I haven't thought of!
You are quite correct. However there is something not quite right with my unregulated 12v rail, not sure what it was, but it was causing me a lot of trouble when i tried to step the voltage down for my signals. So in the end I went for a regulated power supply.
There have been some reports of metal fatigue in both Heljan class 47's and Hornby class 31 chassis. The class 31 problems have only recently been recognised and Hornby are replacing the affected ones. I have 3 hornby class 31's and 2 Heljanclass 47's. The last time I looked they were ok. If you want to research the chassis fatigue further simply search google. There are plenty of reports to be found.
Cracking video, I am looking forward to the weatering video because your weathering is top class, you should start a weathering company to fund your railway and give grimy times abit of competition lol and Brilliant fleet of diesels.... Have you ever had a problem with Horby diesels shorting out over points?
Love your videos and am using the scenery ones as a tutorial for building it when the time comes, your videos gave me the liking of the intercity swallow livery and therefore on when i was at ally pally i got a Dapol intercity swallow class 43 HST book set :D Matt
Hello. I have to say ive been watching your videos for awhile now, and yourself and a couple of others I watch have inspired me to have a go at making up my own layout and also join my local model rail club. Thank you for making such awesome videos and sharing your knowledge with us. With that in mind i do have a question for you. I own a few Bachmann class 47s, One imperticuler seems to have a lower coupler setting to all the others, this becomes apparent when i use it with coaches and wagons.
a good long video full of some great locos.i think the locos in the 80's had so much more character than the modern day loco. so what will be your next purchase mate what have you got your eye on?
Thanks mate. I might get one sound loco some day, but to be honest I don't think much of it. The standard sound systems really lack the deep bass and rumble you get from a real loco. Re-blown sound systems from specialists are much better, but very expensive.
Great video. I was looking forward to the next loco arriving in front of the camera. A couple of questions, does the 108 require 2 decoders and what type of kaydee coupler do you use. And have you not bachmann class 66s.......I want to get myself a class 20 but I'm hoping for a DRS release with lights. Keep up the fantastic work. Really enjoy the vids.
Thats a great (and ever growing) fleet you have there! I agree with what your saying about the HST...I am DESPERATE for Hornby to launch that livery again with MK3 coaches. It Swallow livery is the best livery the HST has ever worn! Did you buy all of your locos and rolling stock in the last two years? Is that how old your layout is? How many years have you been into model layouts?
Hi there, ur videos ur fantastic!!!!! And have got me right back into model railways! And I've got a quick question (hopefully). I wld love to get my layout running in dcc, and I was wondering if u had any suggestions or recommendation??? Thanks very much!!!
I would like to use the Kadee coupling system on it and the others, but i dont know which ones to use, could you please tell me what number you use on your two and what you would recomend for the one with the slightly lower couplings. Thanks again and hope to see more of your awesome vids.
@EverardJunction I thought that it wasn't too bad actually. Certainly have a rather impressive collection there :) I look forward to the weathering tutorial in particular.
I've just finished the planning of my layout, just in the process of getting the baseboard built and in place. In your opinion what are the better loco's Bachmann or Hornby as I am wanting to expand my fleet of locos / sets. I've noticed some of Bachmann's scenery / trackside is better detail than the Hornby stuff.
Interesting, I read a lot of forums and have never seen anyone complain about Hornby or any other manufacturer mounting couplings to the bogies. Hornby get complains when they use those massive unrealistic couplings, but I've not seen any direct complaints about the position or the mounting point chosen. Do you have any links to the source of this information, I would be interested to read what people have said. Thanks
@JamesandPeter A difficult question as both of them can make very good locos. Bachmann is my choice as they are well priced and high quality. They also don't suffer from as many issues as my Hornby locos.
would love to see an updated version of this
Yes I agree its been a while and he has got more locos and I also like to see a wagon and coach version.
Yes
Thanks for sharing your trains and builds. I just discovered your channel today and watched about 10 video's. You deliver pure enjoyment and relaxation at the viewer end. Thanks a heap mate. Never had an interest in trains since my child hood kit wore out... Yeah I wore them out.. I'm out to the our states Train show next month now ( Queensland).. See what you've done... Seriously Thanks for the all your effort and good luck with the new build. The naming of Everard Junction strike a real chord with me.. Great Stuff!
Using Kay-Dee Couplers makes so much sense! A really nice loco roster!
Cheers for the heads up Richard there ordered. I've just build my first helix this evening with the help of your videos I've chosen to take my layout down and rebuild as I've never been happy with it. Thx again for you info Ian
There is a good reason why Hornby fit their couplings to the bodies of their loco's. They get loads of complaints from other modellers saying that fitting it to the bogie makes it unrealistic. I'm afraid it is going to have to be aggressive to disagree. It only hornby though who get that complaint. No one ever says anything about Bachmann doing it..
I imagine people don't want to complain about Bachmann faults because they've paid quite a bit more than what a Hornby loco costs and are feeling rather disappointed!
Managed to purchase a hornby class 50 after seeing your review..just waiting for it to be delivered !..Seeing the HST reminded me of a courier job I had in the 80s..the brakes really stank when you had to stand inbetween carriages as there were no seats on a busy Friday evening from Kings Cross to Peterborough..! glad they dont do that in OO scale..!
Would love to see an updated version of this! including what sort of stock you like to run with each loco
Wow, wow, wow. Stunning fleet and in awe of your knowledge on each of these Loco's, especially service history. Great job and hope you keep it going.
very good video,,I had a triang Hornby set as a kid in the UK never forget triying to change the brushes on the motor on them,,whot a job,must be they have changed that by now,,thanks for sharing.
i love the weathering you do on landscapes and locos, best ones I've seen so far
Very good response.I did not intend to take anything away from your efforts in fact I admire what you have done with your layout and locos. I often think how much more realistic layouts would appear having engineers and passengers in the locos.
Regards
Any NSE coach is right to be honest. Many of the coaches never got painted out of the early blue. The best ones that match the loco are the bachmann mk2 coaches in the darker blue. I use kadee number 19s most of the time. Some buffers have been glued in the retracted postition to stop them catching.
I agree with what you said about the bachmann intercity swallow livery 37 , i have one myself and it is a fantastic loco , hope to get a few more like her
What a great loco fleet and very well detailed description. I too had the Hornby coupling issues you have mentioned with my class 50's when negotiating any curves, so I've tried them with Bachmann couplings and all seems fine. Overall, exceptional models and very well informed video, I like it very much.
I myself have experienced exactly the same issues with the 56 as you have! thankyou for excellent advice
Thats correct. The sprinter scheme and the regional railways colours are very similar so I didn't notice at first.
I might redo the decals at some point
A Yank is finally beginning to get my arms around British diesel locos. Thanks. Nicely done.
Love your engines, but the hedge behind looks awesome :-)
Imagine a price comparison video of then and now
these model trains are well detailed, they look realistic, sound realistic (railroads going by), and they even wheelslip.
I remember when you repainted 50034....one of my favorites you own, you did a awesome job on it!
I really want to start up this hobby again, very expensive and very limited money though.. :( I've always wanted a bad ass setup like yours, been watching alot of your videos. So glad I found you!
Really enjoyed this video. You have some great looking locos and stock. Just one point about the Class 150 - I did not think they were delivered in the 'Regional Railways' livery, but rather the 'Sprinter' livery, except for the original ones in the Provincial blue scheme.
Virgin mk3 coaches can be found on ebay for ok prices. You should be able to find the coaches you need. A re-paint is possible, but I would not recommend it if you have never done anything like that before.
Cool, the small white connectors heljan use for wireing can work themselves loose sometimes.
Exceptionally nice and detailed fleet. Subscribed and liked. I'm in usa and have N scale....but I've developed an appreciation for British models and layouts.
You could probably use the two steam engines on railtours.
I agree. My railroad is modern, but I had to have at least one steam loco. I justify it by using it for railfan trips.
Merry Hampton Productions yes but the locos won’t pull much up the helixes
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Argon YT me coughs I’m sure even when you wrote this the layout was down
Realy didn't notice at first it was about model railroads as the image was so realistic!! Good paintjob and good weathering!!! For me a bit of a dilemma weathering pricely locos which come beautifully painted out of the box but the result in your case is fantastic and gives a lot of realism on the layout! Overall I think the railroadcompanies need to dedicate themselves more on keeping their fleet nice and clean; which they are doing more nowadays! Thanks for making this nice review!!
From memory the 58 body is just clipped on, best to wedge card down either side to loosen it off. Check the manual, it should tell you in there.
The lights are correct for the loco. There is a high beam light on each side, on british locos one side is lit during the day, the other side is used at night. Above the high beam lights there are ordinary running lights on both sides, these are lit all the time.
33002 was painted in that livery in 1989, so its perfect for the layout. It was then painted into dutch livery in 1991.
as you say, the hst coaches were a lot of money, but my god i bet they were worth it. Your loco's are fantastic!!!
Superb, nothing more to say. Well done and keep up the high standard.
some nice subtle weathering there, very nice, regarding your coupling issues, I use kadees on the very same models, BUT i remove the n.e.m. socket and mountings totally, as they flex vertically too much for reliable use, I mount a strong pad to the body and fit a standard #5 kadee in it's box to the pad using a height gauge, apart from really tight curves (15" radi or less) and short radius points, I have no problems and some of my trains weight up to 3kg. Rich, R & M Quarries
Really enjoyed this update,especially the class 50 review..
Great collection of diesel locos. I must admit I prefer steam but do have a class 50 which tends to be used in the shunt yard.
Great video really enjoyed it !.. especially liked the class 50 review, I was stuck for a second 80's loco on my small layout..but the class 50 has made my mind up..its a big old beast..
I'm aware of 31165, the issue with numbers (particularly Hornby) is that they are printed on and very difficult to get off without damaging the paint underneath. I try to avoid renumbering, if I need to do it I tend to re-spay the loco into a different livery to make it worthwhile.
It was made about 3 years ago and most have sold. Smaller model shops might have some, or ebay.
The first 60s entered service in 1989/1990. My layout is set between 1988 and 1990 so it does fit in just.
Really nice fleet. Thanks for sharing it !
U switched tracks after the Deltic... ;)
Lovely fleet & useful info on each model; They do fabulous on the new scenery!
Thanks Rich, I have thought about it for some models as the nem pockets can have quite a bit of excess movement. At the moment it doesn't cause too much of an issue.
Great review of your fleet..watched it a few times....still very informative..Have to agree the Bachmann decoders they are very good,I use the 36-553 ,Even on a quite old Heljan class 47 (2004-2005) I bought it on Ebay about 3 weeks ago , only ever run on DC..put in a Bachmann 8 pin decoder...runs beautifully smooth ...even at a snails pace .
@djjk26 The best kadees for normal running are the no.19s, you want to get the NEM type that just slot in.
I wedge bits of card in the NEM pocket on the loco to adjust the height of the kadee if needed..
I removed the fan belt in my 56's and 31's and they seen to work really well now. Hornby need to review the fan mechanism in the 56's and 31's because ive found you can get incredibly jerky running when the fans start to stutter.
Yet another great Vid. Plenty of loco's there and fantastic detailing. hope to achieve a good standard of weathering my self. have started off on a coach and some wagons. have come quite good i think
I use 19s and haven't had too many issues. Some locos are the wrong height (mostly Hornby). They can be adjusted by packing card above or below the kadee.
Check the back to back wheel measurements on the model, this can cause a lot of derailments if it's out. Also check the bogie can pivot freely, if something is snagging the wheel will jump the rail. As for the detailing coming off just glue it back on. I've had to on a few of my locos.
Thanks, models have has much better 'sealed' motors now. I was a pain with the old types, I used to have an engine with brushes that fell out on every corner. I gave up with that one in the end.
I use a dry paint brush the brush the ballast up between the track. Then I glue it in place.
Very fine. Thank you for sharing.
A good way to get into dcc is to buy a dcc set. Bachmann and Hornby make a few.
Take the body off (should be 4 screws underneath for a 56). You should then be able to see part of the band in the fan mechanism. I just cut the band and threw it away. Running now much improved.
Extraordinarily enjoyable video, thanks.
Great video as always and I love the weathering
Yeah I literally only have about 4 or 5 locos, I really need to start collecting, great vid as usual mate!:)
Any way around leaving the corridoors disconnected, the only obstacle to overcome as far as realism goes, otherwise excellent. love the weathering, including the track.
Brilliant fleet
Thanks for this, a really interesting video! Just one aspect I wasn't quite sure on, how come you use a separate regulated 5V power rail rather than just using a 5V regulator on board the signal circuit (then making use of the unregulated 12V rail?) For me the 5V reg seems like a much simpler and cheaper option, but there's probably something that I haven't thought of!
You are quite correct. However there is something not quite right with my unregulated 12v rail, not sure what it was, but it was causing me a lot of trouble when i tried to step the voltage down for my signals. So in the end I went for a regulated power supply.
Very nice collection.
There have been some reports of metal fatigue in both Heljan class 47's and Hornby class 31 chassis. The class 31 problems have only recently been recognised and Hornby are replacing the affected ones. I have 3 hornby class 31's and 2 Heljanclass 47's. The last time I looked they were ok. If you want to research the chassis fatigue further simply search google. There are plenty of reports to be found.
Such an excellent layout and videos clips, are you thinking of adding sound decoders to your locomotives in the near future?
Fantastic weathering looks very good, like the deltic do you have any sound chiped locos?.
Great, I am looking forward to it, im intrested to see how you weather, they do look good
I read about those 20s, there are a few in different liveries still in service.
Awesome review there matey! A great selection too!
Thanks mate! It's good you've told me that cause i was considering a heljan class 47
Cracking video, I am looking forward to the weatering video because your weathering is top class, you should start a weathering company to fund your railway and give grimy times abit of competition lol and Brilliant fleet of diesels.... Have you ever had a problem with Horby diesels shorting out over points?
Love your videos and am using the scenery ones as a tutorial for building it when the time comes, your videos gave me the liking of the intercity swallow livery and therefore on when i was at ally pally i got a Dapol intercity swallow class 43 HST book set :D
Matt
Hello. I have to say ive been watching your videos for awhile now, and yourself and a couple of others I watch have inspired me to have a go at making up my own layout and also join my local model rail club. Thank you for making such awesome videos and sharing your knowledge with us. With that in mind i do have a question for you. I own a few Bachmann class 47s, One imperticuler seems to have a lower coupler setting to all the others, this becomes apparent when i use it with coaches and wagons.
Wow! I wish I had this many locos!
I explain the first 3 in this video. As for the 67 are you referring to the newly tooled one or the older model they used to make?
Please run the steam locos and the deltic all together and have a heritage day on the layout or something! That would look awesome!
a good long video full of some great locos.i think the locos in the 80's had so much more character than the modern day loco.
so what will be your next purchase mate what have you got your eye on?
Bachmann do not supply the train sound ready. You would have to get a dcc sound kit for it.
Thanks mate. I might get one sound loco some day, but to be honest I don't think much of it. The standard sound systems really lack the deep bass and rumble you get from a real loco. Re-blown sound systems from specialists are much better, but very expensive.
Great video. I was looking forward to the next loco arriving in front of the camera. A couple of questions, does the 108 require 2 decoders and what type of kaydee coupler do you use. And have you not bachmann class 66s.......I want to get myself a class 20 but I'm hoping for a DRS release with lights. Keep up the fantastic work. Really enjoy the vids.
Thats a great (and ever growing) fleet you have there! I agree with what your saying about the HST...I am DESPERATE for Hornby to launch that livery again with MK3 coaches. It Swallow livery is the best livery the HST has ever worn! Did you buy all of your locos and rolling stock in the last two years? Is that how old your layout is? How many years have you been into model layouts?
impressive fleet mate! you need to make a video of the specials running on your layout that would be great :)
Cheers Rob
It allows the train to be controled using a dcc system.
I wedge card above or below the coupling in the pocket to adjust the height.
@EverardJunction. Thank you for getting back to me and letting me know. Regards djjk26.
To use the features of a decoder you will need a dcc controller.
I got mine from hattons 2 years ago, it was the last one they had in stock.
Great video would be great to see your 20's together as I like class 20's. Nice collection of locomotives. Do you prefer Hornby or Bachmann?
Hi there, ur videos ur fantastic!!!!! And have got me right back into model railways! And I've got a quick question (hopefully). I wld love to get my layout running in dcc, and I was wondering if u had any suggestions or recommendation??? Thanks very much!!!
I would like to use the Kadee coupling system on it and the others, but i dont know which ones to use, could you please tell me what number you use on your two and what you would recomend for the one with the slightly lower couplings. Thanks again and hope to see more of your awesome vids.
Beautiful collection! 😊
@EverardJunction I thought that it wasn't too bad actually. Certainly have a rather impressive collection there :) I look forward to the weathering tutorial in particular.
nice video again, nice to c some of your fleet. jim
I've just finished the planning of my layout, just in the process of getting the baseboard built and in place. In your opinion what are the better loco's Bachmann or Hornby as I am wanting to expand my fleet of locos / sets. I've noticed some of Bachmann's scenery / trackside is better detail than the Hornby stuff.
I got it from hattons about 4 years ago. They haven't made that one for quite a while.
Interesting, I read a lot of forums and have never seen anyone complain about Hornby or any other manufacturer mounting couplings to the bogies.
Hornby get complains when they use those massive unrealistic couplings, but I've not seen any direct complaints about the position or the mounting point chosen.
Do you have any links to the source of this information, I would be interested to read what people have said.
Thanks
It's the new tool tooling, but it's one of the first ones they made in about 2006. Don't think the first ones had sprung buffers.
Congratulation for beatiful layout!!
N gauge and OO gauge are completely different. N gauge is about half the size of OO. Everything you see on my layout is OO scale.
Now thats a Fleet
@JamesandPeter A difficult question as both of them can make very good locos. Bachmann is my choice as they are well priced and high quality. They also don't suffer from as many issues as my Hornby locos.
You wont find it anywhere as they haven't made that one for a while. I got mine from hattons 2 years ago, it was the last one they had in stock.
like the 2 steam locos at the end u should get a black 5 for rail tours see how it handles the helix ?