Any plans to cover Medieval Italy? I'm particularly interested in the aspects of life of a typical North Italian town or city in the 14th and 15th centuries.
"Taxation on everything" is not the same as "Taxation". Yes, some taxation is necessary, but it is always damaging to the economy of a society, and therefore it needs to be kept as low as possible, limited to only pay for the things that can not be handled by individual citizens, or by the free market, such as military defence, and the police/justice system. A lot of the things you mention, like for instance schools, hospitals, cleaning and parks are much better handled by the free market than by an inefficient, bureaucratic, tax funded system.
AAA9734 that is something made up by the modern US conservative to justify tax cut and is only a uniquely US thing. Most other country in the world for west toe east first world to third don't consider its a creditable economic through.
There are more. He went into Multure for using the Lord's Mill (the miller would usually get 1/16th IIRC off the top of my head) but some lords would also require that all bread be baked in their ovens, and that once a year everyone had to buy a gallon of beer or wine from their brewery/winery, the latter often applying in towns. Dues were also paid on wood harvested from the lord's woodlands, generally 25% of logs or wood cut IIRC. Only issue I have is I thought Labor Service was only three mornings or 3 afternoons per week, so more like half-days and also putting it at the 25% level, which was not as onerous as the up to 50% some sharecroppers in the US had to pay in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, but still substantial given all the other taxes
This is such a great channel, I'm surprised that you don't have many more subscribers than you do... I mean you have quite a few but I think you deserve a lot more. I guess in time more will come. Keep up the great work!
While watching a video on MEDIEVAL taxation? There's half a dozen meanings that would rather come to (my) mind: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aid_(disambiguation)
Well since you asked. I did silently unsubscribe from being a Patreon because you stopped making this kind of content which I prefer and is why I became a Patreon in the first place.ni hope you continue showing off your armor as you educate on all this fascinating history you're so informed on.
Awesome video. I enjoy all your video but the ones about history (like this one) are my favourites. I discovered your channel only recently, but since then I subscribed and watch about 4-5 videos every day. You are doing amazing work here, Metatron. Btw, you should consider opening like a Patreon.
Thanks for this. I like your videos about purely military matters, but I encourage you to continue with pieces like this as well. Sorry I can't support you monetarily.
bro really hit us with the *serene music with slowly zooming in background* . . . *Verdana Pro Regular 32pt font shadow drop with Fade In transition* Aids . . .
This was interesting. I'd be interested in hearing about the social structures too. I have a little idea how feudalism worked for nobles, but I'm less clear on how it worked for the lower classes - laborers, farmers, craftsmen... I'd also be interested in learning how taxes were assessed and collected, especially in context of the social structure. And third thing I'd be interested in is justice and law enforcement - how were criminals caught and prosecuted? Again, in the context of the social structures would be interesting (hence why I listed social structures first), since I see this could differ between the classes... Thanks! Keep up the great videos! 👍⚔️🤓
I wonder how the overall tax burden compares to modern times. I'd be surprised if the middle class of developed countries (probably most of your viewers) pays any less (by percent) than their medieval counterparts. I rather suspect we pay much more-that as productivity has increased, so has taxation, mostly to fund social programs and military.
How about listing the ones you pay or that come to your mind straight away? .. beyond vat and income tax and WITHOUT copying a list from the web or Wikipedia.
Hello there, i have recently suscribed to your channel, have been hearing about you from a lot of other channels like Shadiversity, Schola Gladiatoria, Knyght Errant and such. I like your channel, very valuable information as the others! What a good video, but Metatron could you explain something? How are peasants supposed to survive with this? i mean it makes me (and other people, there are more coments on this) think that they ended up very poor because of all the taxes they had to pay. I know they were pretty far down from a social prespective but damn.
+Kevin Lobos it's depending on the era really, but don't forget, that during the Early and High Middle Ages especiallly, that taxation was essentially the payment for the protection a Lord of the manor provided. A tax like Scutage e.g, was levied so a Lord could hire a mercenarey to fight in that Knight's stead, or several mercenaries as the case might have been. It all looks onesided perhaps, but there was a lot more behind the taxation than simple greed.
Sorry for the necro, how were merchants from outside taxed to bring their wares into the fiefdom? I know how it worked in germany (one of the reasons why the hanse was formed)
Damn, no wonder John Lackland (hahahah) signed the magna carta in 1215. His barons had all reasons to be angry and remove powers from him. So many taxes! In Braga, a city in Portugal, they didn't charge taxes for over a hundred years during medieval times.
What's the correspondent of the french "Ban", the tax for using an equipment like a mill, an olive "pressoire", etc..., build by the lord of the land? Those equipment were known as an "banal" instrument.
I suppose this is why many peasants (villeins and the like) were, in practice, more like slaves with a few rights than free people with some obligations. Great video.
Not really, slavery is far of from medieval serfdom and peasantry. The issue is merely all these taxes being lumped up into one short video, making it sound far horrid than it actually was, a lot of the mentioned taxes were not even enforced in the same time period.
Slavery may be exaggerated, but we have to remember other obligations serfs had, limitations to hunting and property, to marriage in certain areas and times, etc. Harsh conditions in any case.
palabragris Yes, but it is also an issue that England is usually the country that the medieval period is judged on, a lot of other regions had vastly different situations. For instance, in Hungary and Croatia, serf labor laws and free movement limitations weren't even enacted until 1495 and 1509, promptly resulting in a massive peasant rebellion.
See, the thing is: from roughly 1000 to 1300 AD, due to good climate and new methods of farming, the polulation grew rapidly and the economy grew even faster. Lots and lots of land were made farmable. Forests cut down, marsches dried... also, lots and lots of citys appeared, either completely new founded or old villages, that had become big and important enough to be given the legal rights of a city by their lord. That means, that the demand for workers was growing faster than the supply. Many peasants left their lord´s land too seek for work under better conditions elwhere, especially in the new cities. So, the landlords had to improve the legal, social and economical situation of their peasants to convince them to stay. After 1300, the climate slowly got worse again. We call the climatic period, that started now "the small ice age". It would reach it´s peak around the time of the french revolution long after the middle ages had ended. Ironically, it was the black plaque, that "saved" europe from a massive economical crisis, by shortening the supply of workers even more. So, the late middle ages saw a time of even more improvements for the working class until around 1500, when two things happened: 1) The population had grown enough again, that the demand for workers was now *smaller* than the supply. This meant that no longer could the workers tell their employers "give me better conditions, or i will just work elsewhere", but in turn the employers could say "accept worse conditions, or i will find someone else, to do your work". 2) Due to new ways of administration and the reintroduction of "roman law" in europe, the lords and kings had become a lot more powerful, than in the old feudal system. This caused not only the peasants to lose most of the rights and freedoms, that they had accumulated during the middle ages, but also caused most of the small knightly landlords to lose their status as well. The only knights, who managed to stay relevant, where the ones who managed to get positions in management or as officers in the military. Today, we tend to take the very bad situation of peasants in the 17th and 18th century, at the height of both absolutism and the small ice age, and project it into the middle ages. This couldn´t be further from the truth.
+Metatron You have a better knowledge of Latin conventions than I do, so perhaps you could answer me this. The usage of Anno Domini (AD) is it before the year? e.g. Anno Domini/AD 1215? Or like you just used it behind the year? e.g. 425 AD? Or is there no defined set for the usage of the term and is it largely left to the discretion of the person using it?
How many of these taxes would usually be collected at any time in history? How many of these taxes would a peasant have to pay in any given year? Or would various taxes go in and out of use?
I like seeing breakdown of terminology videos like this one or say for instance the one you did on gladiators. I also liked the interactive videos you made. And I like the videos where you assess things (like movies or video games) for historical accuracy. If there was one type of video that I am not the biggest fan of I would say it's the linguistics stuff. I feel like that alone (linguistic videos) could even be it's own channel. It's not that I don't like linguistics (I still engage with that content as well). Just in the context of your channel it feels like filler and a little bit of an aside.
Metatron I'm genuinly suprised you don't teach history. Where did you learn all this? Did you study at university and just thought teaching history isn't quite your thing?
***** Stupid? The fact I have decided to learn Japanese made me get called from Bruxelles to work for them as an interpreter, I do not see that as a stupid thing. I have also worked in Japan for 4 years. It took me 2 weeks to find a good job there, why? Because I could speak the language well. Those who could't didn't get the job. Also, in the competitive society we live in the harder the language you know the better, because it means less competition. So to answer your question, yes I teach also Japanese classes, and I consider those youth to be very smart because they have decided to study something different which in the future, together with Chinese and Corean will be more valuable than English, most likely.
Our total tax burden is well over 50 percent, by some estimates up to 66% I'm trying to find out if we pay more than or less then what peasants paid. Is there an estimate out there of a peasants total tax burden?
Player Review among his comrades amirite? Because I LOVE when my money is taken for the sake of welfare for people who don't even have any desire to work like I do. I just love being forced to give my money because the government wants more tyranny
7:00 There was no corn in Europe in the medieval period, it was a new world crop like potatoes. Unless corn was a general term for grain: I don’t know medieval terminology very well.
Any plans to cover Medieval Italy? I'm particularly interested in the aspects of life of a typical North Italian town or city in the 14th and 15th centuries.
Definitely do more on Medieval England, I'd say.
I surely will, thanks for watching Pc Genie
I also want to see more of this type of content.
@@metatronyt @6:09 unfathomably based
In short, the taxation of everything in the modern age is something that goes back thousands of years.............
MUH ROADS
"Taxation on everything" is not the same as "Taxation". Yes, some taxation is necessary, but it is always damaging to the economy of a society, and therefore it needs to be kept as low as possible, limited to only pay for the things that can not be handled by individual citizens, or by the free market, such as military defence, and the police/justice system. A lot of the things you mention, like for instance schools, hospitals, cleaning and parks are much better handled by the free market than by an inefficient, bureaucratic, tax funded system.
Keep in mind that he merely listed all the taxes throughout the centuries, a lot of them were not enforced at the same time.
AAA9734 that is something made up by the modern US conservative to justify tax cut and is only a uniquely US thing. Most other country in the world for west toe east first world to third don't consider its a creditable economic through.
more taxes create more government jobs which helps the economy actually, or it would if they used the tax money effectively
Every video the Metatron puts out is educational and entertaining.
I'm glad you think so!
I lost my shit in "Aids" 😂😂😂
Almost as many taxes as we have now.
Definitely worse than today.
There are more.
He went into Multure for using the Lord's Mill (the miller would usually get 1/16th IIRC off the top of my head) but some lords would also require that all bread be baked in their ovens, and that once a year everyone had to buy a gallon of beer or wine from their brewery/winery, the latter often applying in towns.
Dues were also paid on wood harvested from the lord's woodlands, generally 25% of logs or wood cut IIRC.
Only issue I have is I thought Labor Service was only three mornings or 3 afternoons per week, so more like half-days and also putting it at the 25% level, which was not as onerous as the up to 50% some sharecroppers in the US had to pay in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, but still substantial given all the other taxes
and i heard some libertarians trying to imply that we have more taxes now lol goverments are just more efficient and polite now
@@lubu2960 polite? Maybe. Efficient? Only if their lives depended on it.
@@supremecaffeine2633 if you think they're not more efficient than in feudalisl idk what to tell you lol
This is such a great channel, I'm surprised that you don't have many more subscribers than you do... I mean you have quite a few but I think you deserve a lot more. I guess in time more will come. Keep up the great work!
Nice intro to the subject👍👌💪
Anybody here saw Aids and thought of the virus?
I died laughing because it was so random xDD
Yes indeed I thought of the Human Immunity Virus (HIV) which causes the medical condition known as Aids too.
Aides for everyone! ~Jared Has Aides
While watching a video on MEDIEVAL taxation?
There's half a dozen meanings that would rather come to (my) mind:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aid_(disambiguation)
Thanks for the video Metatron, i am a history buff and love knowledge.
Please keep these type videos up, especially about Medieval England.
Well since you asked. I did silently unsubscribe from being a Patreon because you stopped making this kind of content which I prefer and is why I became a Patreon in the first place.ni hope you continue showing off your armor as you educate on all this fascinating history you're so informed on.
Satiates my desire for history today lol....and shit man it looks like Peasant had to pay everything.
Being a peasant sounds pretty terrible. So many taxes on top of earning so little.
"peasants" didn't actually earn that little
They made bank, but got cleared out by the big liberal government until the 2nd amendment freed dey ass
Quite a lot of the peasants who were freed of being serfs became barons, later.
Yes, but we pay a lot in taxes nowadays, too.
+0hn0haha You need to have your own history channel.
Very good information Metatron. I am researching the history of taxation and this is well presented and easy to absorb, thank you.
Awesome video. I enjoy all your video but the ones about history (like this one) are my favourites. I discovered your channel only recently, but since then I subscribed and watch about 4-5 videos every day. You are doing amazing work here, Metatron. Btw, you should consider opening like a Patreon.
I have a test on medieval Europe tomorrow, this helps so much thank you
Love this type of video, definitely my favourite kind you make. I like your videos concerning language as well
Thanks for this. I like your videos about purely military matters, but I encourage you to continue with pieces like this as well. Sorry I can't support you monetarily.
No worries and thank you very much for watching!
Love the video. I would love to see more content about the daily lives and customs of medieval commoners, and not just English ones.
These are the best videos you make.
I'm loving these little history videos :3
I'm glad you are!
More of these, definitely!
Questi video storici sono molto informativi! Grazie per il duro lavoro!
bro really hit us with the
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*Verdana Pro Regular 32pt font shadow drop with Fade In transition*
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Yes, more videos like this please.
The half suit makes you look really professional.
Thanks
I really like this type of video.Good job man!
Yay, more medieval content!
I liked it very much. I like your content overall, but i would like to se more videos of this kind.
The Metatron cleans up pretty.
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Very informative! I love these historical vids!
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subtle
This was interesting. I'd be interested in hearing about the social structures too. I have a little idea how feudalism worked for nobles, but I'm less clear on how it worked for the lower classes - laborers, farmers, craftsmen...
I'd also be interested in learning how taxes were assessed and collected, especially in context of the social structure.
And third thing I'd be interested in is justice and law enforcement - how were criminals caught and prosecuted? Again, in the context of the social structures would be interesting (hence why I listed social structures first), since I see this could differ between the classes...
Thanks! Keep up the great videos! 👍⚔️🤓
I love your videos. Keep them coming.
I know this about Medieval ,but I wish you would do a segment on the iconic Roman Attic Helmets,thanks
I really like these historical videos
While I watch and enjoy your other videos. The history (European, Japanese, anything) ones are the ones I watch over and over again.
Very interesting! Glad I found this
Very nice presentation!
You look spiffy in a suit, very professional!
Enjoyable and informative. Thanks for posting.
Love the content, nice suit by the way.
i just wanna say, cool videos bro
I wonder how the overall tax burden compares to modern times. I'd be surprised if the middle class of developed countries (probably most of your viewers) pays any less (by percent) than their medieval counterparts. I rather suspect we pay much more-that as productivity has increased, so has taxation, mostly to fund social programs and military.
We definitely pay more taxes, because every product and service has the value added tax.
Who else thought of the sickness when he mentioned the first kind of taxes?
There was alot more taxes and bureaucracy than I thought in Medieval England, almost as bad as today.
How about listing the ones you pay or that come to your mind straight away?
.. beyond vat and income tax and WITHOUT copying a list from the web or Wikipedia.
Hello there, i have recently suscribed to your channel, have been hearing about you from a lot of other channels like Shadiversity, Schola Gladiatoria, Knyght Errant and such. I like your channel, very valuable information as the others!
What a good video, but Metatron could you explain something? How are peasants supposed to survive with this? i mean it makes me (and other people, there are more coments on this) think that they ended up very poor because of all the taxes they had to pay. I know they were pretty far down from a social prespective but damn.
People today can be taxed up to 40-50% of their wage, if you lumped up all the taxation we have to day in comparison, it would also sound scary.
Many of them didn't.
Neutral Fellow i see, thanks i guess D:
+Kevin Lobos it's depending on the era really, but don't forget, that during the Early and High Middle Ages especiallly, that taxation was essentially the payment for the protection a Lord of the manor provided. A tax like Scutage e.g, was levied so a Lord could hire a mercenarey to fight in that Knight's stead, or several mercenaries as the case might have been. It all looks onesided perhaps, but there was a lot more behind the taxation than simple greed.
thank you all for your answers they help a lot!
This is a good video. Thanks for posting it.
Please, more video like this!
i thought the term was "soak" for paying the miller a cut of the ground wheat, hence the phrase "getting soaked" when you get ripped off
Extremely interesting that Heriot has become a surname. The circumstances for that seem unlikely, but clearly existed.
You don't have to focus focus on these kind of video's. Butt doing a few from time to tim eis indeed very interesting. I like them a lot.
I'd personally like these in the mix, but like 1 out of every 4 or 5 compared to the others.
Now I know where American politicians get their ideas for taxing everything.
Great video about a very taxing subject.
I love this style
I love your videos... but why is there a picture of maize at 7:09 😣
I like this kind of video though I prefer more detail on one aspect of a subject, this one was a bit simplistic for me.
7 hours for the making, I got a life xD
:'DDDD
I think it shows ^^ great video.
Linus Brunner Thanks ^^
Yes, a very good vid :) my compliments
problem is I like all of your content great video
Came for the Martial Arts, stayed for the historical lessons.
Loving that Protoss pin. Ki nala atum
Yes! More History Vids.. Anything less than the 20th century era..
lovely vid. thanks. I liked the paintings, some very familiar ones (Breugel, I think? :-) )
Sorry for the necro, how were merchants from outside taxed to bring their wares into the fiefdom? I know how it worked in germany (one of the reasons why the hanse was formed)
Damn, no wonder John Lackland (hahahah) signed the magna carta in 1215. His barons had all reasons to be angry and remove powers from him. So many taxes!
In Braga, a city in Portugal, they didn't charge taxes for over a hundred years during medieval times.
What's the correspondent of the french "Ban", the tax for using an equipment like a mill, an olive "pressoire", etc..., build by the lord of the land?
Those equipment were known as an "banal" instrument.
I suppose this is why many peasants (villeins and the like) were, in practice, more like slaves with a few rights than free people with some obligations.
Great video.
Not really, slavery is far of from medieval serfdom and peasantry.
The issue is merely all these taxes being lumped up into one short video, making it sound far horrid than it actually was, a lot of the mentioned taxes were not even enforced in the same time period.
Slavery may be exaggerated, but we have to remember other obligations serfs had, limitations to hunting and property, to marriage in certain areas and times, etc.
Harsh conditions in any case.
palabragris Yes, but it is also an issue that England is usually the country that the medieval period is judged on, a lot of other regions had vastly different situations. For instance, in Hungary and Croatia, serf labor laws and free movement limitations weren't even enacted until 1495 and 1509, promptly resulting in a massive peasant rebellion.
See, the thing is: from roughly 1000 to 1300 AD, due to good climate and new methods of farming, the polulation grew rapidly and the economy grew even faster. Lots and lots of land were made farmable. Forests cut down, marsches dried... also, lots and lots of citys appeared, either completely new founded or old villages, that had become big and important enough to be given the legal rights of a city by their lord.
That means, that the demand for workers was growing faster than the supply.
Many peasants left their lord´s land too seek for work under better conditions elwhere, especially in the new cities.
So, the landlords had to improve the legal, social and economical situation of their peasants to convince them to stay.
After 1300, the climate slowly got worse again. We call the climatic period, that started now "the small ice age". It would reach it´s peak around the time of the french revolution long after the middle ages had ended.
Ironically, it was the black plaque, that "saved" europe from a massive economical crisis, by shortening the supply of workers even more. So, the late middle ages saw a time of even more improvements for the working class until around 1500, when two things happened:
1) The population had grown enough again, that the demand for workers was now *smaller* than the supply. This meant that no longer could the workers tell their employers "give me better conditions, or i will just work elsewhere", but in turn the employers could say "accept worse conditions, or i will find someone else, to do your work".
2) Due to new ways of administration and the reintroduction of "roman law" in europe, the lords and kings had become a lot more powerful, than in the old feudal system. This caused not only the peasants to lose most of the rights and freedoms, that they had accumulated during the middle ages, but also caused most of the small knightly landlords to lose their status as well. The only knights, who managed to stay relevant, where the ones who managed to get positions in management or as officers in the military.
Today, we tend to take the very bad situation of peasants in the 17th and 18th century, at the height of both absolutism and the small ice age, and project it into the middle ages. This couldn´t be further from the truth.
+Metatron You have a better knowledge of Latin conventions than I do, so perhaps you could answer me this.
The usage of Anno Domini (AD) is it before the year? e.g. Anno Domini/AD 1215? Or like you just used it behind the year? e.g. 425 AD? Or is there no defined set for the usage of the term and is it largely left to the discretion of the person using it?
Nice suit sir, but does it follow the regulations for the sumptury laws?
love it more please!
2:38: nice village, relaxing music. Oh, a beautiful castle... AIDS!
great videos!
How many of these taxes would usually be collected at any time in history? How many of these taxes would a peasant have to pay in any given year? Or would various taxes go in and out of use?
Lookin' sharp, dude
Thanks pal!
Enjoyed that
My roleplaying group will love this
I like seeing breakdown of terminology videos like this one or say for instance the one you did on gladiators. I also liked the interactive videos you made. And I like the videos where you assess things (like movies or video games) for historical accuracy. If there was one type of video that I am not the biggest fan of I would say it's the linguistics stuff. I feel like that alone (linguistic videos) could even be it's own channel. It's not that I don't like linguistics (I still engage with that content as well). Just in the context of your channel it feels like filler and a little bit of an aside.
It is always so strange when people talk about the battle of Hastings, as I live here!
Great video, those poor peasants... Fix your tie mate! :D
great video!!
i do like this kind of vids
How often were taxes collected during this time period? Was it monthly, annually, or every few years?
I am amazed that the English had to pay Danegeld even after Knut ( a Viking), then William the Bastard (Viking decendant) ruled England.
What percentage of a peasant's total income was taxed? How much did they keep?
yes I prefer this sort
Pay your dues and I shall grant you a boon!... I suppose the word "boon" in this case is unrelated but that has little effect on the idea.
You said you are a teacher may i ask what subjects you teach and maybe where?
English and Japanese, I'm a language expert and I teach in many schools from public to private from primary (occasionally) to secondary (high school)
Metatron
I'm genuinly suprised you don't teach history. Where did you learn all this? Did you study at university and just thought teaching history isn't quite your thing?
Bleeding Purple My majour was languages, my minour was history :) history is my hobby, but I would never earn as much here by teaching history.
***** Stupid? The fact I have decided to learn Japanese made me get called from Bruxelles to work for them as an interpreter, I do not see that as a stupid thing.
I have also worked in Japan for 4 years. It took me 2 weeks to find a good job there, why? Because I could speak the language well. Those who could't didn't get the job.
Also, in the competitive society we live in the harder the language you know the better, because it means less competition.
So to answer your question, yes I teach also Japanese classes, and I consider those youth to be very smart because they have decided to study something different which in the future, together with Chinese and Corean will be more valuable than English, most likely.
You don't teach your students to spell majoUr and minoUr, do you? :D
Our total tax burden is well over 50 percent, by some estimates up to 66%
I'm trying to find out if we pay more than or less then what peasants paid. Is there an estimate out there of a peasants total tax burden?
What song is you Intro ??
I would have loved it if this was more in-depth, but still a very nice video :)
were all these taxes going on at the same time or were some of them specific to certain periods.
Not at the same time and not the same people. The introduction income tax simplified things a little x)
Taxation is a theft! Thanks for the informative video!
Nice tie; why not try a trinity knot though? xD
The Metatron has spread his taxes.
Player Review among his comrades amirite?
Because I LOVE when my money is taken for the sake of welfare for people who don't even have any desire to work like I do. I just love being forced to give my money because the government wants more tyranny
could you do a video on beurocracy in the Roman Republic/Empire?
Onced taxed, was anything left ?
7:00 There was no corn in Europe in the medieval period, it was a new world crop like potatoes.
Unless corn was a general term for grain: I don’t know medieval terminology very well.
It was indeed a general term.
That is rough. How do you function under those conditions?
usually dying ...or killing the tax collectors back then lol
It sounds far harsher than it actually was.
In total, an average person pays more percentage wise in modern Europe than back then.
Can’t stop me evading them
"fraudulent miller's" -thinks back to KCD 'aw that makes sense now'