@@hannes6114 Then you might be in the 20% who needs more travel - seriously, I see lots of people in my club and have friends doing only blue and red trails on 150+ enduro rigs, totally numbing the experience of riding a mountainbike on a otherwise fun flow trail, making the trail boring instead of using a poppy and fun bike which also is an good climber to get back up …
Maybe it's due to the fact that I'm not that trained neither is my bike 100% that up to date. It's a reign from 2015 with a pike and a monarch that can't be tuned that perfectly. I will have to find out myself in the future :)
I haven’t seen any reviews of the 2022/2023 spectral in the 27.5 front and rear, everyone reviews the 29er, the mullet and the 125 would love to see somebody talk about the special, 27.5
I ran the Spectral 2022 CF8 for a while this year, rung up about 500 miles on it. Brilliant bike and excellent pretty much everywhere and even did my first Enduro on it. I liked it as well or maybe even better on tame trails than my 2021 Stumpjumper Expert and it blew the Stumpy away when trails got gnarly. In the end though, I just sold both and picked up a new Propain Tyee (after I test rode one), which just gave me a hair more confidence than the CF8, granted some of that may be because it is a Large VS Medium on the Spectral and the Tyee is running a coil, which tracks the trails I ride a bit better.
I bought a light 150first, worked every where but was always the slowest going up or down. Switched it to 170 although this worked amazing downhill and still climbed like a truck it was so much that flat trails where really boring. Than bought a 120 this works amazing on flattish trails as it is fast light and fun. I used this mainly and 170 for bike parks and downhill stuff.
I would choose the CF 125 for it's travel range, and especially for the availability in a 27.5 version. LOTS of benefits to that wheel size in a trail bike, contrary to popular marketing.
Thanks for this video. Last week, I was actually comparing these bikes to the other brands with the same travel. I have an enduro bike and I’m looking for a nice trail bike. Much appreciated.
Really wish they would offer the mullet in different specs the same as the others. Atm I just can’t let go of my 650b CFR spectral as it’s so fun to ride.
I went through the same and got the 29er because I'd rather have the extra travel in case I ever need it. You can firm up the rear suspension if you're mostly on smoother trails. I plan to do bigger drops eventually so didn't get the 125 for that reason.
Lock the suspension, put on faster rolling tyres and your good to go. I'm in the same dilemma. Spec 125 or 29. So tempted by the 125 but it's similar to what I have now and feel I need a bigger bike, I'd regret not going for the 29 I think
I think mbr makes the best mtb bike reviews at the moment. That said, if I'd be looking for trail bike I would pick the middle one but I'm more interested of bike park stuff so mullet bike with a steady platform and more travel for shure. At the moment I have 5y old Primer that has with 140/125 mm travel, about 13 kg, which sounds similiar to the spectral 125, playful, fast. The terrain I ride mostly is flat and I like to do long rides but it can handle more steeper stuff too.
I almost bought a Spectral AL6 at the beginning of the summer. Alas, when I was ready to buy Canyon had no availability for over a month, so I bought an Ibis Ripmo AF instead. Very happy with the Ripmo, but I wanted that Spectral pretty bad.
I own a 2019 Canyon Strive and ride it in CO. I am 66 yrs old but reasonably fit for my age. I find the Strive tough when climbing and frankly , due to its length, it’s a bit of a school bus on downhills - a plush school bus albeit. I am thinking of a lighter, shorter wheelbase frame. Lesser travel would not be a detriment to my riding style. I am intrigued by the Spectral 125. Any thoughts???
That Strive is a huge bike! I ride a SC Tallboy and find the 120/130 travel seems to actively slow me down when approaching 20 mph on rough downhills in Pennsylvania. But anything slower the geo seems pretty capable. The Canyon 125 seems like a similar bike but a notch rowdier on every geo metric. Probably couldn’t charge through chatter like your Strive but handle all the slower speed stuff just fine.
Hi, rampy with regards to suspension means progressive, so the deeper you go in the travel, the harder it gets to compress. Down-country bikes are lightweight, short travel, trail bikes given a more marketable name!
The Neuron is definitely designed to be more of an all-rounder, with a more comfortable position for covering long distances off-road, and a bias towards reduced rolling speed with efficient tyres, but it also rips on flowing singletrack and is surprisingly capable on more 'enduro' style terrain. We were really impressed with it when we tested it.
@@MBRmagazine yeah so it does , but to most that would mean a snippet of something dropped in to the video or product placement like the presenter wearing a particular brand shirt etc , not the entire videos content.
🤔 Dam OK, I'm 171cm tall (5ft7and a half) I want to buy the 29 spectral and I do ride/love steep trails. My only concern is that rear tyre on my ass, I'm not tall but am I tall enough?
@@MBRmagazine Really! Is it softened from living away from Ireland? It wasn’t what I, as a Canadian would, consider very heavy. I genuinely don’t mean to be North American centric when I say that. It’s just that to my ears, Irish usually is a stronger accent.
@@robhughes645 well my dear, guessed wrong I am the owner of a bike from the unspeakable company, that's exactly why I advise everyone "Stay away from the rubbish from Koblenz", the bikes already fall apart in the showroom 😂😂😂
@@Dieterbe It could have been a random batch of dhx's but mine and a few other people on the spectral owners forum also complained how hard the hsc tune was. I got mine tuned and it was better. Some people said there's was good so maybe I was unlucky.
you could shorten the video by 17 minutes if your two paid marionettes said right at the beginning "buy from what is probably the worst bike manufacturer in the world"
I have a Spectral 29 AL6 with 160mm travel up front and am lovin' it. Brilliant all rounder!
I recently just bought the Canyon Spenctral 29 CF7 and it is the best bike I have owned 10/10 would recommend!!
I bet a 120-130mm fully is enough for 80% of riders and trails out there - and even make those trails more fun…
I get fucked up on my 160mm so I don't know how I could agree
@@hannes6114 Then you might be in the 20% who needs more travel - seriously, I see lots of people in my club and have friends doing only blue and red trails on 150+ enduro rigs, totally numbing the experience of riding a mountainbike on a otherwise fun flow trail, making the trail boring instead of using a poppy and fun bike which also is an good climber to get back up …
What forks do you see on these bikes? 34s or pikes?
Maybe it's due to the fact that I'm not that trained neither is my bike 100% that up to date. It's a reign from 2015 with a pike and a monarch that can't be tuned that perfectly. I will have to find out myself in the future :)
Also I exaggerated a bit :)
I haven’t seen any reviews of the 2022/2023 spectral in the 27.5 front and rear, everyone reviews the 29er, the mullet and the 125 would love to see somebody talk about the special, 27.5
I ran the Spectral 2022 CF8 for a while this year, rung up about 500 miles on it. Brilliant bike and excellent pretty much everywhere and even did my first Enduro on it. I liked it as well or maybe even better on tame trails than my 2021 Stumpjumper Expert and it blew the Stumpy away when trails got gnarly. In the end though, I just sold both and picked up a new Propain Tyee (after I test rode one), which just gave me a hair more confidence than the CF8, granted some of that may be because it is a Large VS Medium on the Spectral and the Tyee is running a coil, which tracks the trails I ride a bit better.
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I bought a light 150first, worked every where but was always the slowest going up or down. Switched it to 170 although this worked amazing downhill and still climbed like a truck it was so much that flat trails where really boring. Than bought a 120 this works amazing on flattish trails as it is fast light and fun. I used this mainly and 170 for bike parks and downhill stuff.
I would choose the CF 125 for it's travel range, and especially for the availability in a 27.5 version. LOTS of benefits to that wheel size in a trail bike, contrary to popular marketing.
Thanks for this video. Last week, I was actually comparing these bikes to the other brands with the same travel.
I have an enduro bike and I’m looking for a nice trail bike. Much appreciated.
Really wish they would offer the mullet in different specs the same as the others. Atm I just can’t let go of my 650b CFR spectral as it’s so fun to ride.
Excellent video guys, informative and well presented!
The comment duo is the Best on UA-cam, the bikes are awesome. Please just make more videos!
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I've watched pretty much every video on the Spectral 29er and Spectral 125 and I'm still not sure which is the better bike for myself or my riding.
I went through the same and got the 29er because I'd rather have the extra travel in case I ever need it. You can firm up the rear suspension if you're mostly on smoother trails. I plan to do bigger drops eventually so didn't get the 125 for that reason.
@@mslmmountainbiker Can you still do some trips from a to b?
Because I want a bike not only for trails also for lets say some 40 miles trips.
Lock the suspension, put on faster rolling tyres and your good to go. I'm in the same dilemma. Spec 125 or 29. So tempted by the 125 but it's similar to what I have now and feel I need a bigger bike, I'd regret not going for the 29 I think
I went with the 125 and couldn’t be happier it’s a all around great bike
@top choice the geo might be the difference I'm looking for in a new bike then... need a demo day!!
Just ordered a 125 CF9. Looks perfect for me who wants a bit of everthing without huge amounts of travel
I think mbr makes the best mtb bike reviews at the moment. That said, if I'd be looking for trail bike I would pick the middle one but I'm more interested of bike park stuff so mullet bike with a steady platform and more travel for shure. At the moment I have 5y old Primer that has with 140/125 mm travel, about 13 kg, which sounds similiar to the spectral 125, playful, fast. The terrain I ride mostly is flat and I like to do long rides but it can handle more steeper stuff too.
Is the middle bike spectral 29 cf 7 ?
Is the middle bike spectral 29 cf 7 ?
I almost bought a Spectral AL6 at the beginning of the summer. Alas, when I was ready to buy Canyon had no availability for over a month, so I bought an Ibis Ripmo AF instead. Very happy with the Ripmo, but I wanted that Spectral pretty bad.
Easy to use and clean. Very convenient.
I picked up the Spectral 29 160/150 it’s great for the trails around here and climbs surprisingly well. 👍
nice! im planning on getting the spectral young hero and doing some tech and bigger jumps that i couldnt do on a 24" hardtail
The heading is Deceptive. Covers only about the Spectral. This is the best Canyon sponsored advertisement I have seen..
The last 2 seem like enduro bikes to me. But that first is definitely a trail bike.
Spring coil with dampers is so good or better than air spring once dialed.
The logos don't line up on the front wheel of that Spectral 29. Unrideable.
I own a 2019 Canyon Strive and ride it in CO. I am 66 yrs old but reasonably fit for my age. I find the Strive tough when climbing and frankly , due to its length, it’s a bit of a school bus on downhills - a plush school bus albeit. I am thinking of a lighter, shorter wheelbase frame. Lesser travel would not be a detriment to my riding style.
I am intrigued by the Spectral 125. Any thoughts???
That Strive is a huge bike! I ride a SC Tallboy and find the 120/130 travel seems to actively slow me down when approaching 20 mph on rough downhills in Pennsylvania. But anything slower the geo seems pretty capable. The Canyon 125 seems like a similar bike but a notch rowdier on every geo metric. Probably couldn’t charge through chatter like your Strive but handle all the slower speed stuff just fine.
which one climbs better, the regular or the 125?
The 125
And what about Spectral 125 AL 5?
Is this bike good for climbing?
Amazing terrain where you filmed this video. Lucky to live just a few minutes away from there
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I'm not up to speed with some of the terms used in these videos, What is "rampy", "down country" ? Cheers
Hi, rampy with regards to suspension means progressive, so the deeper you go in the travel, the harder it gets to compress. Down-country bikes are lightweight, short travel, trail bikes given a more marketable name!
How does the neuron compare to these bikes? Just bought the neuron 7 Alu
The Neuron is definitely designed to be more of an all-rounder, with a more comfortable position for covering long distances off-road, and a bias towards reduced rolling speed with efficient tyres, but it also rips on flowing singletrack and is surprisingly capable on more 'enduro' style terrain. We were really impressed with it when we tested it.
Best trail bike is the one you already have.
Totally agree... Things are marginally better ... The main difference comes down to the rider
The best trial bike is the one that makes the company the most money
You do get this is aimed at people looking at buying a new bike right? In other words, people who likely have a bike and looking to upgrade.....
Choose the one with a threaded BB.
Threaded BBs are just press fit BBs with more steps mate.
So I basically just watched a canyon advert 🤷♂️
It does say that it includes paid promotion at the start.
@@MBRmagazine yeah so it does , but to most that would mean a snippet of something dropped in to the video or product placement like the presenter wearing a particular brand shirt etc , not the entire videos content.
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So basically this is a promo video for canyon.
It is flagged as a promotional video.
🤔 Dam OK, I'm 171cm tall (5ft7and a half) I want to buy the 29 spectral and I do ride/love steep trails. My only concern is that rear tyre on my ass, I'm not tall but am I tall enough?
Sounds like you're the perfect candidate for the mullet version.
I’m dying to figure out the long haired dude’s accent. It sounds English with a touch of Canadian or American.
Northern Ireland
@@MBRmagazine Really! Is it softened from living away from Ireland? It wasn’t what I, as a Canadian would, consider very heavy. I genuinely don’t mean to be North American centric when I say that. It’s just that to my ears, Irish usually is a stronger accent.
@@MBRmagazine Greetings from our wee country 💪🏼
Ripmo. Done
Canyon wont deliver worldwide
also a total nightmare to get hold of
Sponsored by Canyon.
Doesn't matter which Bike, aslong ist's not from Canyon 😁😁😁
You've obviously never ridden one then, yawn
@@robhughes645 well my dear, guessed wrong I am the owner of a bike from the unspeakable company, that's exactly why I advise everyone "Stay away from the rubbish from Koblenz", the bikes already fall apart in the showroom 😂😂😂
My Canyons have all been fine. As well as being like 5k cheaper than the equivalent specialized or santa cruz 🤷♂️
🤦♀️🤦🤦♂️ hey Darwin Award winner, no kinematics can break with your hardtail either, or otherwise drive off the beaten track 🤡🤡🤡
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How about just start with not a fucking Canyon!
The shock tune on that dhx is garbage
How so ? I'm considering getting the mullet so please share more :)
@@Dieterbe It could have been a random batch of dhx's but mine and a few other people on the spectral owners forum also complained how hard the hsc tune was. I got mine tuned and it was better. Some people said there's was good so maybe I was unlucky.
you could shorten the video by 17 minutes if your two paid marionettes said right at the beginning "buy from what is probably the worst bike manufacturer in the world"
Who hurt you?
@alanmuldoon Spectral, Escarpe or Mystique and why?