Fashion Doll History with Joey and Dean - E1 - 1955 to 1969
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- Опубліковано 6 лют 2025
- Fashion Doll History with Joey and Dean - E1 - 1955 to 1969
Hello everyone! Today Joey Versaw and I are talking dolls from the 50s and 60s!
We originally intended to make one video covering every decade, but we ended up recording hours of footage so we decided to break it up into a series. So this is episode one. I will try and get one up each week in addition to my regular videos. I hope you enjoy this video! Thank you for watching!
Joey Versaw is a doll artist known for his Mary Magpie and First Love dolls. You can find more of him here:
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/ missmarymagpiedolls
/ @dollheadsshow
Photos of Bild Lilli and Wendy Ward by Ernesto Padró-Campos:
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All other photos belong to the companies that produced the respective dolls and are used for educational purposes.
OMG!!!! I love Joey! He’s the sweetest I still treasure my gorgeous monchhichi and Danny customs he gifted me years ago! And his Mary Magpie dolls are dreamy!
I know right! He is the sweetest. I love his work. I have one mudcake and one Mary. My fiancé also has a mudcake. He is my favourite doll artist ever! 😍
@@DeanReen I think he’s one of those guys that everyone has a slight crush on... 😂
Beauty and brains without a huge ego, can you please send help???? 😂
He’s the best! You too are in that category, this is merely because you guys are kind and smart I swear it has nothing to do with you guys being handsome 🤥😅🤣
@@ThatGuyGabeToo Oh! For sure! And that beard! 😍 He has an infectious smile too. Oh really, you are just flattering me 😂I'm far too vanilla, but thank you! ❤️😊😍
@@DeanReen 😳 yeah, yeah not swooning here at all 🤥🤫 just making polite conversation... 😍🥰😘😜😅
You guys are making me blush!! I still think about that mow hawk Monchhichi! I loved making him haha 😆. ❤️
I don't recall if I left a comment last week, but if I didn't, here's a few...
Love your series. Much fun to be had here. I was born in 1959, so I experienced so many dolls and trends from the 1960s.
First of all, did you ever hear of a doll called Scooba Doo? I have one. I know she came out in a black-haired version and a platinum. She was a talking Beatnik doll. Very pretty. Look her up if you can. My step dad bought one for me in 1964. I still have her around. She's not really a fashion doll... or maybe she is... you can tell me. She was very much a trend doll, anyway. However, she is probably too big for you fellows to explore in the regular fashion doll format.
I had two jointed plastic animal dolls with fake fur wigs and tails that were made by Remco. A mid-1960s thing, they were a fashion doll dog (TV Jones) and a fashion doll cat (Pussycat Meow). They came in little plastic cases similar to the Heidi and Jan and Hildi dolls, but instead they were molded into a TV shape, perhaps just for the novelty of it; I don't know if the backstory on these little creatures was supposed to support the characters being TV stars, but that makes about as much sense as anything else. The little animal dolls had a clothing line and little boots that came with the fashions (raincoat, secret agent, cowboy outfit, etc.), and there were other animals in the line. Check 'em out if you can. I don't know if Peteena the Fashion Poodle predated or postdated the Remco products or what, but considering how closely in competition Remco, Hasbro, Mattel, etc., were, I'm sure one line must've been a reaction to another.
And yes, the Littlechaps were quite homely. Gack. I think I must've missed seeing these in the local discount stores by about five minutes. Maybe they sold them in Sears, which hadn't been built near me yet. I experienced, viewing in person, many of the early innovative variations of the Barbie line (Fashion Queen, Color Magic, Miss Barbie, the various packaged sewing kits for preprinted Barbie outfits, and any coloring books and paper dolls), Skipper, Scooter, some little dude to hang with S and S, and Midge (who always repulsed me), Ken and Allan, and I saw Tammy when she still had fashions available (I had a Pepper and a few Tammys), but I don't recall ever seeing the other members of the Tammy family for sale. I saw them in the clothing booklets, but was mystified as to where they would be sold. However, an early friend of mine, Deluxe Reading's Penny Brite, and her great stuff was still around (that kitchen set! That beauty salon! That car!) Anyway, I was good at cataloging this stuff visually, so again, I think I had arrived at the point where it was about five minutes after they stopped stocking the entire Tammy family line.
I do know those two chain discounters we most frequented---Topps and Kings---sold the Premier Doll Togs fashions. I remember the POS carousels and the packaging.
In regard to what I didn't see: it's possible the jobbers were unable to force placement of certain items in the individual stores. It was a very working-class, factory employee neighborhood so I don't think the suburban-style Littlechaps would've drawn much interest there. I don't know if Ideal and Hasbro and Remco could exert the same kind of pressure that Mattel did, to get the discounters to take entire lines of dolls. I suspect that Mattel competitors took an artificially early exit from the stores we frequented, if only because in Mattel forcing stores to carry more Mattel lines of product than they probably actually wanted, it meant that they had to cut back on other lines from other companies and refuse to carry as much stock from those other companies. You have to cut back somewhere, and you only have so much shelf space anyway. Which meant consumers learned quickly not to shop for those dolls there; why disappoint yourself? Move on. ("Apparently the companies aren't making those anymore."--even if they still were.) I strongly recall Tammy dolls were still being sold for a time even when her fashions no longer were. After I took out a Pepper with an incidence of childhood upset stomach on her blond hair, I ended up with at least two regular Tammys after that (I had a tendency to twist the legs off by accident, necessitating replacement), and later, after a bout with the flu, as a consolation, a Posing Tammy when I was healing. I remember I saw Posing Misty---the phone booth thing. However, I didn't know grownup Tammy existed, never saw her or her clothes for sale. By 1964, very clearly, no new Tammy outfits were to be found; and of the old stuff, there were about five examples of Puddlejumpers and Pizza Party around town for months, and not much else. It was a bit sad for me, as I liked Tammy's face better than Barbie's as a little girl. Sigh. Those little pizzas and telephones and transistor radios were fun, and the heart-shaped locket. The skis. That coral-colored skirt, with the fringed hem. The plaid skirt with the little pin. And the chenille dog. So nicely made. And the shoes and sneakers I always lost, which I recall had a kind of wood grain on them.
I knew Barbie was soon to come for me, even if I didn't really like the Ponytails or the Bubblecuts---I had examined them carefully---but they looked cold and just didn't appeal. I couldn't relate. Who wore their hair like that, so pony butt or so helmety? Nobody I knew personally. Nobody. And that Fashion Queen looked like she would kill ya. Miss Barbie was just...that swing...nice, but the doll, she's...just no. And what's with that pink dustmop on her head? I literally puzzled over that. The Color Magic line puzzled me also, and it looked like something my mother would instantly forbid because you apparently used chemicals or something and it required more than just ripping the things out of the box, it required prep, meaning...delay in enjoyment, and you could make a mess on the rug or stain the table formica while you were experimenting, so forget it, my mom didn't do the close supervision thing, ever, just trusted me not to do stupid things, and I instinctively knew I was too young to be unleashed with that. (I was not a troublesome kid in that respect. I was an only child and DID NOT want to cause mess if I could help it---nobody but me to blame it on, once my very young uncle graduated high school and moved out on his own and stopped slopping model paint and Testor's glue on the kitchen table.) Midge, nada. I liked how she looked in my coloring books, especially as I always colored her as a redhead, but she wasn't anything like the drawings in real doll life. Not even close! Those eyes! I just wasn't sold on the ca. 1964 Barbie line, although the clothes Barbie had were just awesome, no question. I wanted THOSE. But even so, Mattel's late 1950s aesthetic had become a bit tired by 1965, and I just waited... because no matter how many times I looked them over, I couldn't relate to ponytails and bubblecuts... I wanted more flowing hair.
My first Barbie was an American Girl, in late 1965. With an even more awesome line of clothes. I'll never forget them.
Oh cool! So you were born the same year as Barbs! Yes, I have heard of Scooba Doo. She is cool. I only found out about her earlier this year I think. It is so great you still have her! I wish they made her as a fashion doll, that would have been really cool. I think our criteria for the dolls in these videos was that they needed to be plastic and have a mature figure. Some other dolls sneaked in though. Oh my! Those TV Jones dolls are cute! Yes, I’m sure they were all playing off each other. I do like that when it doesn’t get nasty. It creates variety. I believe the way it works today, is that companies “rent” shelf space. So larger companies are able to place more products in stores as they can afford to rent more space. I’m not sure if it worked that way back in the 60s though. I do know that geographical location plays a huge part in things too. I remember asking for black dolls as a kid and the store managers would say that it wasn’t up to them. The head office would only send them what they thought would sell at that store. I one had to travel 2.5 hours to get to a store that had a black doll. Tammy IS a lot more relatable. Especially in the US I think. She has a very USA feel to her. Very Sandra Dee. Of course we had Sindy here in Australia and in the UK and she was basically Tammy but with more reserved clothing. American Girl would have been a great first Barbie! He hair is so simple and chic.
Sorry to contradict you Dean, but Barbie was very popular in the second half of the 60s and the entire 70s. There was even a factory in Germany for the European market who made many European exclusive dolls and outfits. I don’t know about the uk but I grew up in those years and clearly remember how featured Barbie dolls were in all toy stores.
I’m loving the videos, just “discovered” your channel today… regards from Japan
Don't apologise, contradict away! 😊 I wasn't even around back then, and I am from Australia too 😂 From what I gather she was popular here from the time she was released here back in 64. I can only go off what I hear from others so it is always great to hear the experience of others. From what I have heard from people in countries like France and Italy Barbie wasn't as popular as other doll lines available. And I have always gotten the impression Sindy was the biggest seller in the UK. I am so glad you are enjoying the videos. And thank you so much for leaving a comment ❤️ Regards from Australia!
@@DeanReen in France Barbie was quite popular since she came out back in 1963. I’m actually watching “you” right now… very addictive!
Regards from a Frenchman in Japan
So exciting! can't wait to watch the others! Xo
Thank you. So glad you like them. The 60s and 70s are my faves by far. But the later ones are good too, especially when the art/indie dolls come into the picture.
They the dolls pictured 4 together reminds me of a twightlight zone episode
We learnt a whole lot from this video!
I'm so glad, thank you ❤️
You’re welcome
Just discovered your fashion doll history series and enjoyed watching them so much!!! The comments are hilarious! I'm a Barbie vintage collector who was enamored after seeing the fabulous intricately detailed ensemble 'Roman Holiday' in 1959! Thanks
Oh! I am so glad you liked them! Thank you ❤️ The comments? Any in particular or just generally 🤷🏼♂️😂 Oh! I love Roman Holiday. Well, I actually prefer the more simple versions of fashions. I have Cruise Stripes and it is my favourite vintage fashion.
The episode went by in a blink... 🥺🥺🥺🥺
I need 5 hours episodes please!!!!
Hahahahaha 😆
I absolutely loved it and if by a miracle you made one where you also invited Dennis Beltran I would faint a million faints!!!
Him and Joey have taught me so much about fashion dolls and Japanese dolls specially! I love them and admire them so much!!!
In the Dawn/Pippa size there’s a Japanese doll called Saila chan that’s more late 70’s mid 80’s and she’s literally Licca chan but in Dawn’s size!!!
I loooove them and they have teeny tiny click knees and amazing quality and the playsets!!!!
I wish one day to meet you guys all in person! Joey and Dennis are Icons to me and Dean you’re up there too!
You guys are delightful and a joy to watch!
Now I will stop fangirling (Not really stopping) ...
I'm so glad you liked it! If only I knew before editing it down! 😂 Oh! Dennis is amazing too! Love them both! Such sweethearts and so talented too! I would love to meet them in person too! I'm nowhere near as up there as they are. That's the goal though. I would love to create my own doll one day. Oh yes! I think I know the doll you are talking about! So cute. If only we had time to include all of the Japanese dolls too. Maybe that's another series? 🤷🏼♂️😂😍❤️ Thank you so much for taking the time to watch this ❤️
@@DeanReen Imagine an episode with You, Joey, Dennis, Cynthia (GG'sdolls) and Nav (Virgin Archer) it would be my dolly Pantheon!
Fabulous commentary! Thanks you guys. 😊
Thank you 💖
More! More! That was so much fun, I can’t wait for the next one!
Thank you Debbie! So glad you liked it.
Very Fun..Loved it! ,,but Tressy deserved more time!
How fun! 👏🏻👏🏻 Bravo to both, you've made a good, enjoyable but also educational chat of many interesting dolls of the past. Can't wait for the next part! 😄
Thank you Marco! ❤️ It is so nice to just talk dolls 😊 I actually learned so much doing this. I always feel a bit bored as I think I have learnt it all but I was SO wrong 😂
I love this! Fashion doll history is such a great series idea and there's not a lot of videos about this topic in depth.
Thank you ❤️😊 Wish I could take credit. Joey came up with the idea 😂 I agree, it is a fantastic idea. I didn't expect there would be so many dolls though 😂❤️
I wealth of information! Thanks so much for putting this together!
Glad you liked it! Thank you ❤️😊
This is a very enjoyable video. Joey is a great co-host and a wealth of information.
I'm glad you liked it ❤️ It was so nice to film. We spent hours filming. He knows SO much and I have even bought something since filming that I didn't know existed. I am going to try and have a video up each week. I'm afraid I am a bit boring in comparison 😂
It’s only cause I’m 727 and lived to see it all happen 😆
So happy to see my beloved favorite Barbie clone Debbie Drake mentioned! I'm NUTS for her.
I'm still swoon over my NRFB Debbie, NRFB Polly and all my loose Debbies and Pollys with their many little variations.
She was made by Valentine, which was also a quite prominent clone company.
I love Popi! I really appreciate her concept and packaging :)
(At one point my collection was 3-4,000 dolls, I've never owned a single Mattel doll, ever. Strange huh.)
I have always wanted Debbie Drake. And I know! 😂 I have seen many of your pictures/videos of her over the years. I did have Marlene but she just wasn't right for me. OH WOW! That is impressive! All those dolls and not a single Mattel doll? Maybe that is why I like your collection so much and dislike mine 🤷🏼♂️ I don't hate my dolls individually but as a collection I think it looks garbage 😂
oh wow! I've learned a whooooole lot from this video! My gosh, I never knew there were soooo many fashion dolls is this era! Great job guys! 🤗🥰
There's so many more too! I wish we could cover them all. So glad you liked it! Thank you! ❤️😊
Great video! I loved that you covered fashion dolls from around the world. Since you missed them in the vid, I would also like to mention Miss Revlon/Little Miss Revlon from Ideal and the Toni Fashion doll from American Character. These dolls were big competitors to Cissy/Cissette in the mid to late 50’s. These dolls as a group, are quality dolls that mimic the beautiful stylings of fifties fashion. A forerunner to Barbie for sure. Also surprised that Sindy wasn’t mentioned either, who evolved from the Tammy line of dolls.
Thank you, I'm glad you liked our video ❤️ And thank you for adding those dolls to our list! ❤️ I even thought of Betsy McCall while editing, but I think we were going for more mature dolls and I'm not sure if she counts 🤷🏼♂️ Yes! There was so much to keep track of. We ended up mentioning her in the 70s which will be the next video, but yes, Sindy was indeed a 60s doll.
Nice! I am happy to see the 2 of you collaborating! I'm so excited!
Thank you! ❤️ It was so fun! And I love reliving it while editing.
Love this video. I cant wait to see part two. I had a Crissy when I was a little girl. She was so much fun to play with. Thank you :)
Guys its such a great thing that you’ve done this video! So much fun and information!
Thank you ❤️ the 60s and 70s are my favourite. I actually learned a lot myself doing this series.
Holy moly Dean this is brilliant, I can’t wait till the next one. You opened my eyes, I didn’t realise how many doll that came out in the 60’s I hadn’t heard of most of these dolls besides the obvious but I do remember Christie doll, actually have an original one. Coming up next time you’re showing Cindy doll, I have an original one as well. congratulations this video is spectacular well done. 🤗🥰🤗
Thank you Pandora! ❤️ Can you believe there is a whole bunch we didn't cover. Especially when you start looking at Japanese dolls and such. And there was more and more in decades to come. I'm looking forward to editing the next video. The 70s is my favourite decade 😊😍❤️
@@DeanReen I had a very big suspension that you where into the 70’s, I think that’s why you love the dolls in that era mostly. Your doing a great job and Joey is a hoot too. Does he not have a UA-cam channel?
This was so much fun to watch! I can’t believe the knowledge you two have. I haven’t heard of many of these dolls.
I'm so glad you enjoyed it! There is so much out there, I am finding new things everyday. Doing this with Joey introduced me to a whole bunch of stuff I had no idea existed.
Hi Deam, Hi Joey!
Hi! 😁❤️
Hello! ❤️😊
I have 4 dawn dolls 1 black dawn doll too
I love the dawn doll line
She's adorable right!? And so well made. I wouldn't mind a Connie 😊
Very informative! This was fun to watch!! Great job, guys! ;) And OOOOOOHHH there's my Polly outfit, with the leopard print pants and leopard trimmed red top! And yes, every doll loving kid back in the late 70's/early 80's had a Miss Flair doll. I remember you could get them at Coles Variety over here back then for next to nothing!
So glad you liked it! There is at least 3 more videos to come. Joey had a great idea for another video. I really want to do it but I think it will be very involved. Oh yeah! I didn't notice that. Such an awesome outfit. So Fran 😂 but vintage of course. I'm sure I remember flair in the 90s too. And Sandi more-so, I'm sure I had at least one Sandi.
Bild Lilli was sold in nolvety shops for men with baby doll peek a boo nighty on
I may have missed it but did you cover Aline by Nancy Ann Storybook? She’s one of my favorites.
I don't think we did. We avoided delving into the various "clones" as there was so much to cover. Aline is one of my favourites too! 😍
@@DeanReen I just love her I don’t care expression she’s gorgeous.
18:44 bottom right, that's Mary from the Shangri-Las LiccaChan.
🤗💜💚💚🖤🎈🎈🎈🎈🎈
What about the revlon fashion dolls and the uneeda dollikins and uneeda fashion dolls and the deluxe candy
Are those more 50s Baby-esque fashion dolls? I think Joey wanted to skim over those as they predated the more mature look of Barbie 🤷🏼♂️
@@DeanReen yes they do predate barbie but they were still being sold in 1963 I thought you would include them as you included the 1955 madame alexander cissy who kicked the whole thing off Loved your Video though very informative 😀
yall are just cute as buttons!
Thank you ❤️
What about Sweet Sue, Toni, Miss Revlon, Jill, Jan and Jeff from Vogue?
What about them? Hahaha, just kidding! Thank you for adding them to our list. Joey and I plan on doing a "dolls we missed" follow up video one day so we will add them in to that video 😊❤️
@@DeanReen they were icons of the late 50’s. Robert Tonner was an avid collector. See Rachel Hoffman’s video, where she got Tonner to share his collection. (A warehouse of these dolls)!
My favorites are the American Character “Sweet Sue” (superior construction and coloring) and Uneeda Dollikins(fully jointed). They were really glamorous dolls.,.
P.S. super enjoy your videos! I bought a Tuesday Taylor for my collection in your honor!
@@ellenirion9658 Oh yes, I am familiar with Dollikins. She is cute. I don't know enough about Robert Tonner. I will definitely check out that video.
@@ellenirion9658 Omigosh! Thank you ❤ I am so honoured. I am so glad you like Tuesday. I feel she is severely underrated.
Ola! Essa boneca que aí vocês chamam de tammy no Brasil se chama susi ❤😊 ela é muito linda tem olhos de vidro❤
Oh yes! Susi! She's beautiful! Much better than any other version! ❤️
There needs to be an in-between doll of Tammy and Barbie. I have many of both. Tammy's head is proportionally too large, but I prefer the body shape for kids. Barbie is mostly too smiley. I collect blow mold clone dolls too.
Francie ❤️
I always compare similarities of Bild Lilli to the dashboard Hawaiian girl.
Oh! I totally see that! But I always think it is so odd that people put Lilli in their cars 😂❤️
Lol