Cheers Stu it means a lot and i'm glad it comes through! And genuinely thanks once again for letting me use your channel's drone footage! Without a handful of kind people like yourself letting me use the footage these videos would not be anywhere near as gorgeous to watch!
Righton? Good t' 'ear from you again. Back in the early '80s I found a Dobunnic gold stater over near my village. That was with an old Tesoro metal detector. Many years later a hoard of socketed axe-heads were found near there, too. Although the Dumnonni didn't mint coins, trade with the Dobunni and the Durotiges was a busy old job. I've lived out in the sticks up in England sinc '91: my wife is English born, from Welsh parents. I stuck five years at A&P Appledore Fal-Docks, after Crofty stopped winding. Five years industrial 'holiday camp'😉. Anyway, since moving to 'Dobunnic country', I've found two more gold staters and some silvers. Finding that first one got me "addicted" to Iron Age history. I need a new book-shelf! Pardon for ramblin'. Us old buggers yarn. Bleddy beauty of a video. Meur ras maw. KK. Remember Michael ✊
Hahaha lovely to see you watching and commenting again! Those are some incredible finds, actually! Metal detecting has always sounded incrdibly alluring to me though I must admit, and as weird as this sounds coming from an archaeologist, i'm not sure I have the patience! ;) Ah yeah Crofty was a tragedy, glad you seemed to find your feet though. Recently moved to London for work so I guess I myself am in Catuvellauni country! Still yearning for those Kernewek cliffs mind you and can't wait to head back for a visit. Glad I could make a video covering your passion, honestly the Iron Age is one of my favourite periods of history and once I get through all these overview of X period videos I have a lot planned to delve deeper into certain aspects of it, but in the meantime, I think new bookshelves are always warranted haha! Anyways, thanks again for watching, it means a lot, and don't apologise, it makes me happy to bring some of those bleddy 'ansome memories back. It's my goal with these videos to get people thinking, learning and talking about Kernow more, after all.
Thank you for more history on my home county, pictures of the open sea pool i learned to swim in and Compass Point. I would suspect the threat they were guarding aginst came out of the Mediterranean and it's slavers but we will probably never kow that answer. Keep up the great and interesting content. Meur ras. 👍
No worries and thanks so much for watching! In terms of the threat, whilst possible it was the Romans, personally I think it far more likely the threat was closer to home, either from the British Isles and Ireland, or the immediate continent. Such a rich region as Kernow would've been via tin is likely to turn the heads of many neighbours. Plenty of the promontory and hill forts were updated or constructed long before the Romans get remotely close, and as I allude to in the video, we have to wonder how Dumnonia itself expanded to cover most of the British South-West. But yes, as you say it's likely we'll never truly know, such is the fun and frustration of archaeology! That said, never say never, who knows what will be found in the future! ;)
What's the difference between a Kernewec Foguu and an Irish soutteraine? They seem like the same thing to me, especially considering they only occur in the West, nearer Ireland
You're right to bring this up and although I didn't have time in this video, one day i'll do a specific video delving deeper into Kernewek Fogous and part of that video will be a discussion on whether they're simply similar to Irish, Scottish, and Breton Soutteraines, or whether they're actually a Kernewek version. As briefly as I can, though (and fair warning I tend to ramble ;) ), the answer is complicated and is basically summed up as 'we're not sure' due to lack of evidence. There's disagreement amongst archaeologists but many archaeologists who cover such things and claim they're unique have a vested interest Kernewek uniqueness and identity and their conclusions have a tendancy to be affected by such viewpoints. Those in favour of a unique Kernewek structure argue the positioning of Kernewek fogous less around defensive forts and more ordinary settlements, their limited number all focused in one small region, the different layouts of them compared to say Scottish Soutteraines and their limit to the Iron Age alone, is enough to differentiate them as seperate structures with differing purpose and seperate tradition. Those who argue the opposite though will say structures don't have to follow the exact same layout or location preferences, nor have the exact same purposes, to be classified as the same type. A house is a house is a house, I suppose. They still acknowledge that Kernewek soutteraines seem earlier than most and that unlike other regions the tradition doesn't continue into the Medieval period, but say it's simply a viation of the same classification of structure, with a slightly different history. Ultimately the issues lie in the fact that these fogous and many soutteraines across teh Celtic world turn up very little actual evidence. Many Kernewek fogou's, for example, were 'excavated ' (raided) by antequarians, and even earlier many potential sites were destroyed with their stones reused as building materials. Whch makes it very hard to identify a purpose as we only really have their location, a vague number, and the layout itself to go off of. Personally I believe they can be classified as unique, due to the number of differences compared to Celtic soutteraines. One or two small differences amongst things of the same type are fine, but once the differences start compiling into a larger list one has to question whether that classification is still accurate. In particular I think the fact they're not built outside of the Iron Age and that they could have a different purpose due to where they're built are factors that lead me to believe this. Though I am aware my own biases lead me to be more open to that conclusion. I am after all making a UA-cam channel of Kernewek heritage haha! I hope that helped, and sorry for the long winded explanation! It's a good question, and one that was in the original draft of this video, so I wondered if anyone would discuss it and wanted to give a proper answer. Meur ras, thanks, for watching anyhow!
Excellent exploration of the Cornish Iron Age. Your passion for history really shines through. 👍
Cheers Stu it means a lot and i'm glad it comes through! And genuinely thanks once again for letting me use your channel's drone footage! Without a handful of kind people like yourself letting me use the footage these videos would not be anywhere near as gorgeous to watch!
Righton? Good t' 'ear from you again. Back in the early '80s I found a Dobunnic gold stater over near my village. That was with an old Tesoro metal detector. Many years later a hoard of socketed axe-heads were found near there, too. Although the Dumnonni didn't mint coins, trade with the Dobunni and the Durotiges was a busy old job. I've lived out in the sticks up in England sinc '91: my wife is English born, from Welsh parents. I stuck five years at A&P Appledore Fal-Docks, after Crofty stopped winding. Five years industrial 'holiday camp'😉. Anyway, since moving to 'Dobunnic country', I've found two more gold staters and some silvers. Finding that first one got me "addicted" to Iron Age history. I need a new book-shelf! Pardon for ramblin'. Us old buggers yarn. Bleddy beauty of a video. Meur ras maw. KK. Remember Michael ✊
Hahaha lovely to see you watching and commenting again! Those are some incredible finds, actually! Metal detecting has always sounded incrdibly alluring to me though I must admit, and as weird as this sounds coming from an archaeologist, i'm not sure I have the patience! ;)
Ah yeah Crofty was a tragedy, glad you seemed to find your feet though. Recently moved to London for work so I guess I myself am in Catuvellauni country! Still yearning for those Kernewek cliffs mind you and can't wait to head back for a visit.
Glad I could make a video covering your passion, honestly the Iron Age is one of my favourite periods of history and once I get through all these overview of X period videos I have a lot planned to delve deeper into certain aspects of it, but in the meantime, I think new bookshelves are always warranted haha!
Anyways, thanks again for watching, it means a lot, and don't apologise, it makes me happy to bring some of those bleddy 'ansome memories back. It's my goal with these videos to get people thinking, learning and talking about Kernow more, after all.
That was great, thank you .
I'm pleased you think so! Meur ras, thanks, for watching 💚
Thank you for more history on my home county, pictures of the open sea pool i learned to swim in and Compass Point. I would suspect the threat they were guarding aginst came out of the Mediterranean and it's slavers but we will probably never kow that answer. Keep up the great and interesting content. Meur ras. 👍
No worries and thanks so much for watching!
In terms of the threat, whilst possible it was the Romans, personally I think it far more likely the threat was closer to home, either from the British Isles and Ireland, or the immediate continent. Such a rich region as Kernow would've been via tin is likely to turn the heads of many neighbours.
Plenty of the promontory and hill forts were updated or constructed long before the Romans get remotely close, and as I allude to in the video, we have to wonder how Dumnonia itself expanded to cover most of the British South-West. But yes, as you say it's likely we'll never truly know, such is the fun and frustration of archaeology! That said, never say never, who knows what will be found in the future! ;)
What's the difference between a Kernewec Foguu and an Irish soutteraine? They seem like the same thing to me, especially considering they only occur in the West, nearer Ireland
They are broadly the same thing, and likely arose from the same cultural practices. They also occur in Brittany
You're right to bring this up and although I didn't have time in this video, one day i'll do a specific video delving deeper into Kernewek Fogous and part of that video will be a discussion on whether they're simply similar to Irish, Scottish, and Breton Soutteraines, or whether they're actually a Kernewek version.
As briefly as I can, though (and fair warning I tend to ramble ;) ), the answer is complicated and is basically summed up as 'we're not sure' due to lack of evidence. There's disagreement amongst archaeologists but many archaeologists who cover such things and claim they're unique have a vested interest Kernewek uniqueness and identity and their conclusions have a tendancy to be affected by such viewpoints.
Those in favour of a unique Kernewek structure argue the positioning of Kernewek fogous less around defensive forts and more ordinary settlements, their limited number all focused in one small region, the different layouts of them compared to say Scottish Soutteraines and their limit to the Iron Age alone, is enough to differentiate them as seperate structures with differing purpose and seperate tradition.
Those who argue the opposite though will say structures don't have to follow the exact same layout or location preferences, nor have the exact same purposes, to be classified as the same type. A house is a house is a house, I suppose. They still acknowledge that Kernewek soutteraines seem earlier than most and that unlike other regions the tradition doesn't continue into the Medieval period, but say it's simply a viation of the same classification of structure, with a slightly different history.
Ultimately the issues lie in the fact that these fogous and many soutteraines across teh Celtic world turn up very little actual evidence. Many Kernewek fogou's, for example, were 'excavated ' (raided) by antequarians, and even earlier many potential sites were destroyed with their stones reused as building materials. Whch makes it very hard to identify a purpose as we only really have their location, a vague number, and the layout itself to go off of.
Personally I believe they can be classified as unique, due to the number of differences compared to Celtic soutteraines. One or two small differences amongst things of the same type are fine, but once the differences start compiling into a larger list one has to question whether that classification is still accurate. In particular I think the fact they're not built outside of the Iron Age and that they could have a different purpose due to where they're built are factors that lead me to believe this. Though I am aware my own biases lead me to be more open to that conclusion. I am after all making a UA-cam channel of Kernewek heritage haha!
I hope that helped, and sorry for the long winded explanation! It's a good question, and one that was in the original draft of this video, so I wondered if anyone would discuss it and wanted to give a proper answer.
Meur ras, thanks, for watching anyhow!
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Pur lowen, meur ras! :)