I'm thankful for people like Garrett Russell and the rest of the members of Silent Planet. No matter what the topic, they always speak with love. I'm about it.
+Rebekah Brunson This is how Christianity is supposed to be. 1. Love everyone first 2. "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." God is the only one who is allowed to or should judge.
If you stand by that, and are able to use scriptural references as a means to support this argument, can you please explain paul in 1Corinthians 5, and James in his last two verses of chapter 5, and Isaiah in Isaiah 5:20? What about Jude in his opening few verses?
Nathan Baker In 1 Corinthians 5, Paul says that it is not his business to judge anyone outside of the church in general. He says to 'expel the immoral brother' after warning a 'divisive person twice.' There is a difference between loving someone and agreeing with them. So, yes, I stand by loving anyone no matter if you agree with them or not. James speaks of prayer in a righteous manner, I am not sure which correlation you are meaning to enact...could you be more specific? With the text in Isaiah, there is a difference between knowing whether something is wrong or right, and then judging someone for it. No one is to judge, except God. Read Jude 9, when Michael says to Satan, 'The Lord rebuke you.' Not, 'I rebuke you,' because even he knows that God is the only one who can do such. Again, there is a difference between knowing right and wrong, and reserving judgement for He who is worthy of judging. I will also reiterate the same for the Jude reference, I guess--even though I see no reason to. Again...Jude realizes what is right and wrong, but he is saying that one shouldn't sin simply because they know that God forgives. For Jesus, when He healed and forgave people while on this earth, He said, 'leave your life of sin.' Just because being a Christian means that you should be merciful doesn't mean that sin is right. It's pretty simple. No one should be a judge of others; that is not our place. If someone is immoral, you and I have no business judging them, but that doesn't mean that we have to indulge in their time and efforts. It seems like "we are" simply becoming redundant of the same principle. Any questions?
Adam XYZ Of course I would love to clarify. Allow me to agree with you first in that Love is a must in all cases when dealing with the world. In ministry, the first (and sometimes only) thing I tell people of the world is that Jesus Christ loves them. This being understood, the message of the gospel does not end here. It sounds good to leave it there, but if we do, we are changing the gospel of Christ. “There is a way that seems right to a man, but it leads unto death”. We must not preach a gospel that sounds good by society’s standards (this was not the pattern we see in the bible) we must instead proclaim the gospel according to what Christ taught, and we can use the apostle’s writings as a guide also. I love the book of Acts specifically- in it you see Christians going radical for Christ, and the faith spreads like wildfire, but they never “tip-toe” around people’s feelings. Your reference to 1 Cor. 5 is correct about not judging the world. I’m talking about the Church, and the Church’s complacent position on homosexuality. It is wrong. It must be understood as wrong. We do not hate them, we mourn for them, but it is still wrong. If they ask us what we think, we tell them it is wrong. We did not decide this, God did. And when Paul talks about people causing divisions, that is another passage, just so you know. James 4:4- ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that friendship of the world is enmity (to become enemies) with God? Whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world will be an enemy of God. James 5:19-20- brethren, if any of you do err from the truth and one convert him; let him know, that he which coverteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death and shall hide a multitude of sins. Those were my two verses in James. Both emphasize the urgency to not associate with sin but rather try to turn people from it. If you have gay friends, and you haven’t told them what the Word truly says, you are not showing them love, because you allow them to live in their sin apart from Christ. You may disagree with me, but I urge you to base your opinion on scripture instead of worldly opinions. Isaiah is very specific and his warning apply to us today. If we turn a blind eye to wickedness and do not acknowledge it as wrong, we are essentially blessing it off as good. Jude is clearly condemning people in his writings. He even calls them “godless”, do you think that isn’t a judgement on his part? Of course it is. His reference about lucifer and michael was showing us not to speak about the Spiritual beings that we don’t understand. He stands on the Word of God and tells that to others, and in a sense this is exercising judgment. The scriptures clearly command us to reveal truth to others. I do not judge. God’s Word has judged. If I read it to people and it’s convicting, that’s too bad. If I tell someone that what they are doing is displeasing to God, that isn’t wrong at all- rather it is loving. I do not do it out of hate or pride. Rather, the spirit in me compels me to try to reach people for sake of Christ’s love. Now we are not the final authority, nor is it our place that we CONDEMN anyone. That is God’s place, but if we sit back and “tip toe” around people’s feelings, we are adding to the problem. We must stand on the Word of God and love others enough to tell them the truth they NEED to hear. If you aren’t doing that, you can’t honestly say that you love them- and you can’t say you love God either. That’s a hard truth, but it’s what we can derive from the Bible, and we must live by it. Be blessed.
Adam XYZ you got it messed up bro. Jesus says 1. love God with all your heart, mind, soul, strength. Then 2. love your neighbor as yourself. It's not Christianity if you start off any other way. Loving people is equally as important as loving the truth.
@@alexrivers9785 There are anti-gay parts of the Bible too, but I totally agree with you that the overall message is about love. I wish more people would take that to heart.
@@ruaraidh74 Well, that's fair, and I wish that all Christians would take it like this. I do feel like calling it a "sin" creates a stigma around it though, even when people try to separate the sin and the sinner.
@@notstarboard in my experience, every Christian I have met has treated it this way. Yet the media likes to blow up stories of the outliers, giving us who truly follow the teachings of Christ a bad reputation. I promise, most of us handle situations like Garret, not like Westborro Baptist. God bless.
This man is filled with so much love. I can only imagine what the world would be like if everyone had his heart and mindset. Silent Planet... Garrett... we need more of this.
Morgan Breshears, To be a true Chisrtian is to be a follower of Christ I'd say. Meaning you try to do what he would do, and in this sense show Homosexuals love, not by condoning their lifestyle choices, but by emphasising with their struggles.
Being a real Christian means "dying to the flesh", which is NOT following our own needs and desires but that of what the Lord Jesus Christ wants in order to have a true relationship with Him.
He's right on many levels for sure. But it's a balance ultimately with human compassion that needs the truth of Christ & what God said about it aswell. It's not one or the other. And this can be applied to universally all things.
This Garrett guy.. I have a ton of respect for this man: He states his position consisely, no ambiguity, and very cogniscent of PEOPLE. Christ saw the women caught in adultery ready to be stoned He asked, "who among you is sinless may cast the first stone."... we know how that story ends. Christ saw a woman, not a problem.
Tony Teichroeb You missed a key element. Jesus said, "Go and sin no more." Why, because sin separates from God. God loved us enough to send Jesus to save us and not condemn us. But he said God is the judge, and he said you need to flee from sin, why? Because sin continues to destroy us, not heal us. Only Christ and the blood of Christ can heal us, and only when we seek him, ask for forgiveness, and turn from our sins will we be forgiven. That is all sin. Why does God, our father want is to stop. Because he knows sin leads to hurting and eventually death. God loved us enough to say, "Stop."
@@thunderballz74 Is your concern with the lack of clothes and behavior, or with the fact that it's LGBT+ people? Please don't believe that gays are trying to change your children. As Garrett so correctly pointed out, people don't choose to be gay. It's also not effective to change someone's sexuality. Even when people specifically try to stamp the gay out of their children they don't succeed and just wind up alienating their children and making them feel miserable. If you can't change people's sexuality when they have every incentive to change, from family and social acceptance, to religious belief, to fear of violence, you're not going to change people by having a parade that a child might see. Plus, many LGBT+ people have had to suffer because of people wanted to change them; if anyone should understand that trying to change someone's sexuality is wrong and unproductive, it's LGBT+ people. I hope that you will support your son if he one day tells you he's LBGT+. Garrett is 100% right on this. You might believe that it's a sin. You might not understand how people can feel that way. You might worry of what your family, friends, and community will think. At the end of the day, though, LGBT+ people are just people and deserve all of the love and respect that should be shown to any person.
@@ehdforlife Right my friend, JESUS said: "Go and sin no more". YESHUA, the only One in the whole Universe Who's never sinned. The only Worthy Being that can say that. Revelation 5:4 "no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon" no one but "the Lion of the tribe of Judah" (Rev 5:5) and we know Who Is. Our Savior Jesus Christ so let's be humble and leave the judgment to Him. Peace to All.
This is absolutely awesome. Thank you so much for speaking on this. you don’t know how much this actually means to people like me. I’ve had so many bad experiences with Christian people regarding me being trans, lesbian and also being a Christian. God didn’t make mistakes when he made us this way. I love you guys and love this band.
So glad I've stumbled upon this interview! I was actually, about five feet away when the dude was arguing with him. Afterwards, I got to have a wonderful conversation with Garrett. Love this band.
Silent Planet is love. Silent Planet inspires me to be love. And as humans, that's the hardest thing for anyone to be. It's the reason why we turn to God or turn away from God because He is perfect love. Thank God for Garrett and the rest of Silent Planet. And once again, thank you Tim for sharing such powerful messages. You're equally as much a part of this movement as Garrett because you choose to share such controversial and powerful messages. All my love man
+Tyler Weinacker thank you so much dude. I really hope this video helps people understand that Christians aren't all the same and I hope it helps Christians understand what true love is.
Saw silent planet for the first time a couple days ago(7/5) at warped and I got to meet the band. They are so kind, sweet and caring and just give off the warm, loving vibe its overwhelming. The world needs more people like them.. And they put on one hell of a show.
Garrett is such a beautiful person. I met him years ago and we were talking for a little bit. Before I could even ask him to sign my arm he asked if I could sign his because he thought I was such an amazing person♥️
Sometimes I think Garrett is an Angel! And he reminds me kind of how I imagine Jesus was. What a beautiful, loving, brilliant, brave, compassionate soul. It inspires me how he radiates love even though he has his own internal pain & struggles. (He's been open about his Bipolar Disorder diagnosis & is a great mental health advocate as well). We need more caring people like him in the world! 🥰🙌💖🙏💫
i met garrett last night and he is such a genuine and authentic earthling, literally such an amazing person and what a christian should resemble !! thank you garrett
Very eloquently stated on Garrett's part, a beautiful sentiment on something I can't agree with more. I'm not religious at all, I'm a trained scientist and it's just the way my brain works, but I try to be as understanding and supportive of ANYONE's else beliefs. However, often I see people use these religions they claim are based on "love" as an excuse to hate. It's shitty, no matter what you believe. Thanks for the wise words Garrett, hopefully some people listen instead of just hearing what you're saying.
His opinion on gays doesnt revolve around if its wrong so much as its about defending the people who are clearly being mistreated and unfairly persecuted. Any human being not willing to own up to the injustice, internal or external, is in the wrong. No excuses. Part of his ministry includes helping LGBT individuals have shelter, clothes, etc. because they have been treated poorly for a status that falls short of a standard, which in turn gives no one a position to preach any sort of Jesus story to them. The idea that there even needs to be a clear standing on subjects like this piss me off because these events dont neccesarily have a direct cause, its a worldview already formed from a lifetime you cant understand.
on a mutual note this band is amazing and what Garrett is saying is all summed up by he who is without sin cast the first stone and "the greatest of these is love". love love love we all need it desperately
I'm a homosexual and want to thank you Tim for sharing this on your platform, and Garrett for intelligently discussing this topic, drawing from his own experiences. The discussion is thought provoking. I'm privileged to come from supportive family and friends, and I would argue the LGBTQ community needs to reciprocate the respect in other cultural and religious beliefs. I spoke about this a little in a reply to another comment, but I'm friends with a Mormon family who I suspect is uncomfortable about my sexuality, but has never degraded me for it and in fact welcomes me into their home for dinner or to chat. We may not understand our different sets of beliefs and origins, but we *do* understand that those things don't stop us from being respectful to another human being.
Eloquently spoken, Garrett. This has challenged my own heart and mind toward the whole "debate". I think it's important to be conformed to the image of Christ and what God's Word says about sexuality, sin, brokenness, etc. But most importantly, our love for God's creation (i.e. other human beings) should be an overflow from the love that Christ showed us on the cross. And that should naturally manifest itself in humble self-reflection, as well as self-sacrificial love toward everyone, no matter where they are at on their journey. When we point people to Christ, THAT is where transformation, renewal and healing begins - not in heated apologetic debates.
THIS IS SO RIGHT I have never liked organised relegion purely for all these reasons, because I hate how so many debates on the way people are as human beings lead to mass confusion and hate on all sides, and everyone forgetting we are talking about humans. As a bisexual guy I will defend who I am from anyone who seeks to marginalise or oppress me, but I will also respect the relegious views of anyone who just wants to live and let live, regardless of what their personal beliefs are, those people represent all the beauty in faith and religion.
Being new to the Christian faith, I'm happy to hear you use the words "Bull Sh!t" because I've been being hard on myself for not being able to censor my bad words. As much as I try to, they still slip out every now & then. Stay blessed, my brother.
Those who are watching, in the beginning 1:06 he even says that it is a sin. He’s not saying its not a sin or defending it by any means, he clearly states that the Bible says it’s wrong and he knows it’s wrong. The point he’s making is how do you treat people who are gay and to love them and show the love of Christ. Love thy neighbor as thy self. Do unto others the way you want to be treated.
You be you. I will be me. Just dont push your choice on me. Im starting to get a little tired of people who try to ram down my throat how I should feel. Im entitled to my opinion. I dont try to shove down your throat my beliefs. If everyone understoods that, there should be no issue.
Let me ask this. If someone is a homosexual before they come to Christ, and remain a homosexual after coming to Christ, are they really changed, or just too stubborn to acknowledge that it's sinful? Does a murderer keep killing people once he becomes a Christian? Does a former alcoholic that is now a Christian go back to being an alcoholic? Proverbs 26:11 says "As a dog returns to his vomit, so a fool repeats his folly." Jesus even told the woman caught in adultery described in John 8, whom several people wanted to stone, to "go and sin no more." I understand what Garrett is saying, but if he isn't implying that a man being attracted to other men is as natural as a man being attracted to women all his life, then how else can it be interpreted. I agree with loving one another, but that includes gradually letting them know what is and isn't acceptable in God's kingdom for those wanting to be part of His family forever. if being gay and a Christian was commended by God, then Paul the Apostle would not have included homosexual behavior in 1 Corinthians 6 as being one of the actions that would deny someone access to heaven. If you fornicate (have pre-marital sex), steal, slander, practice prostitution, worship a false god, or indulge in homosexuality, and think you can get to heaven without repenting of 1 or more of them, you're only deceiving yourself.
I really appreciate Garrett's point that not everyone is on one extreme or the other. I'm an 18 year old Catholic who has gone to Catholic school my whole life and who goes to Mass every Sunday. I am well educated in Church theology and doctrine, and I understand that above all else Jesus called us to love one another. Pope Francis has called us to accept our homosexual brothers and sister lovingly and with open arms - ignorance is truly not what the Church teaches. Of course there are always those who remain ignorant or hardhearted, but it is not the Christian way.
I’m a completely heterosexual male who was part of my school’s GSA in high school. I’ve always been very vocal about my support for LGBT rights and I’ve always been completely disgusted by homophobia. I remember seeing this in my senior year of high school and showing it to my friends in the GSA. Most of them were gay, bisexual, transgender, etc., and I was one of the first straight people they had ever met to support them, and I wanted them to see that I wasn’t the only one. The teacher who ran the group played this video on the smart board. After it was over, one of my friends who is both lesbian and on the autistic spectrum got up and said that people like Garrett are the reason she can marry a woman if she wants to. I think I’ll always remember that.
I have gay friends, and never thought of them a sinners or people who sin, they are the complete opposite. I listen to christian metalcore and hardcore a lot, and think its cool to see open minded christians, about gays/lesbians/bi's/transgender as well, and support each other. Love should be a good thing regardless of sexuality. I'm agnostic, and support gay rights, and human rights. If love is good, we should treat gays and lesbians the same way, not just those who are straight.
Try to understand,that I love my homosexual friends and family,but it’s not a stretch to not see them as sinners. They are sick and need God to correct them. It is not judging,God has already condemned these actions.
In any terms, Paul calls the church to bring sin to the attention of other believers personally. If this has already been done, and the sin persists knowingly, the church is called to 'expel' the immoral brother. But, in terms of non-Christians, the church has absolutely no place condemning or hating non-believers. This is the same with any sin: if a non-believer is unfaithful to their spouse, the church has no business butting in--but, if there is unfaithfulness in the church, it should be brought to light. Read 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 for clarification.
I agree with garret. like you don't need to shame people based on preferences or beliefs, no one should hate or shame anyone no matter the context, just support friends and family no matter what.
Based. I'm saving that. Pretty helpful dose of wisdom for me and for all of us to keep in mind for everything too honestly. But yeah, I was trying to figure out what Garrett was missing. Thank you dude!
reguardless if i believe homosexuality is a sin (which i do) i always treat them as a human being. being a rape victim who struggles against homosexual tendencies i wouldn't dare tell some of the people in my church. i am called to be a pastor and a Christian Rock musician. the struggle is real but i know this.... My God is bigger.
if you struggle with homosexual tendencies then you're a homosexual. there's nothing wrong with that man. please be the person that you really are and don't "fight against" something that would make you happy with who you are.
+noredorgreen actually i don't struggle with them anymore. you're only homosexual if you identify yourself as one which is why its called a sexual preference/orientation. scripture wise theres a lot of issues with it. God broke my chains of bondage. my struggling came from a traumatizing rape experience.
Can I ask you a question? Hypothetically, if the world was suddenly given the chance to collectively vote on whether or not gay marriage should be legal, what would you vote?
Christ commanded us to LOVE. Not judge, not criticize, not beat for being different, etc. To love. Love, patience, kindness. This is what christ taught, and this gentleman is a wonderful example of that in action. New to Silent Planet, and already enjoy the music so much, now im just as big a fan of the artists behind the music 💜.
I'm not trying to argue... But when you openly judge others or sin in every day life, which everyone does... Then that means you're going to hell too, right? Last time I checked, if someone accepts Jesus as their savior then they're saved, regardless of sin. That's actually exactly why Jesus died on the cross, for all us sinners. As Garrett said, to make a hierarchy of sin is pretty ridiculous. All sin is sin the eyes of God
Hello my name is Alec and I'm a human being and I am also homosexual. That being said I did not choose to be gay the same way that you did not choose to be straight. It's how you were born. Considering that truth, the way that someone is born cannot be classified as a sin. The same way that being born African-American, Native American, Mexican-American cannot be classified as a sin either. I'm definitely not asking you to change your opinion, I'm just asking you to look at the facts.
+Alec Vogel this is pretty awesome man and a very eye opening way to look at it. Regardless of how we are born, we sin and I think it's ludicrous to look at someone else and think their life is more sinful than another's based on no facts and mere speculation, which is what so many people do... Not just Christians. Thanks for commenting this cause it's definitely time people start moving past such outdated ways of thinking
+Alec Vogel But choosing to act on it is a sin. I'm attracted to women and if I act on those feelings before marriage I'm sinning. Factually you don't have to act on those feelings the same as I have not acted on mine towards women, I'm wanting until marriage. Now I assume your response will be then what can you do because you're not attracted to women? My response would be if you're Christian then you would have faith god will reward you for staying strong. If you're not a Christian then I guess it doesn't matter just do what you want.
He has blinded their eyes and hardened their hearts, so they can neither see with their eyes, nor understand with their hearts, nor turn--and I would heal them."
I'm not religious, if someone wants to be religious, awesome!! But when they start treating people like they're less than human, and try to take away their rights because "it's against my religion" is where the line needs to be drawn. If you think being gay is a sin... don't be gay. But don't try to keep other people from being who they are. If everyone tried to stop people from doing things they didn't like, we'd all be standing in one place never accomplishing anything.
it is clear he knows his way with words. He beats around the bush because he doesn't want to piss off anybody... what I got from this painfully long explanation is that he indeed thinks homosexuality is a sin, but we should also see them as people just like any other because we all sin differently and we shouldn't judge others while comitting sin ourselves. not that i agree with him (naturally, since I am not a Christian). But I guess I respect his answer. He is one of the rare Christians who can say that he loves homosexuals, even though it is a "sin"
Regarding Christians, when you're a christian the question you should always ask yourself when your even doubt if something is sinful is does this obey the two greatest commandments? Does this show love to the lord with all of my heart, soul, body, strength and mind? and does this allow me to love my neighbor as myself? If we obey these commandments everything else will fall into place.
Let us not confuse what is sin and how we as Christians share the expression of the love of Christ by our actions. Jesus said let our yes be yes and our no be no anything else is of the devil. There is no grey in truth. We are not to treat any sin different than any other, but at the same time just as Jesus loved us in our sin we are to love all sinners and share the true Gospel of Jesus Christ calling all sinners to repentance. The whole purpose of our love to non christians is to share the Gospel to allow the Holy Spirit to work in their heart to bring conviction of their sin. We are not to be friends with the lost, we are called to love all men that they would believe the Gospel, REPENT of their sin and receive eternal life
What I always go back to is this -- sin is sin. So if you have never sinned before, you can be the first to condemn a gay person. Here's the catch though - you're not perfect. You sin, I sin, everyone sins, whether it be in one way or another. I don't agree with the act of homosexuality, but that doesn't mean I hate everyone who practices that way. Garrett said it well and I think we as a people should be more loving and respectful towards each other.
Beautiful explanation as always Garrett. However, a bit confused about your confusion about the hierarchy of sin. Sure, all sin distracts us from God, but wouldn't murder distract us more than swearing or telling a small lie? I mean maybe not, as a Catholic (who are Christians btw some people don't know that so..) I've been taught the venial vs moral sin difference and it seems rather logical for me and that's saying a lot because I see some very illogical dogmas of the Church. Just wondering if you could provide further insight or explanation into your beliefs because they truly are inspiring.
Read 1 corintians 4:4 buddy your answer is there :) god sees no sin bigger than another sin.. In fact sin cannot separate us from god, only we can and that's what paul explains in that verse... That just because your concience is clean it doesn't mean you are justified. In other words, telling a lie doesn't make you feel 'separated from god' because you just didn't let it get to you as much. Sorry for the long paragraph dude, I hope this helps because it helped me :D
John 8:7 "So when they continued asking Him, He lifted Himself up and said unto them, 'He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her'."
"Then Jesus lifting up himself, said to her: Woman, where are they that accused thee? Hath no man condemned thee? Who said: No man, Lord. And Jesus said: Neither will I condemn thee. Go, and now _sin no more."_ (St. Jn. 8:10-11)
I am a christian. I don't support gay people, but I do not hate them, or fear them. I believe that all humans should be treated with respect. I don't care if you are gay or straight, i will treat you the same. We are all human.
there is a difference in supporting and loving. Supporting them would be like me going to a LGBT parade and donating money to their cause. (which I would never do, because I don't support them.)
Financially or economically? Me neither, but I support them to have the same rights as you have as, I guess, you being heterosexual. As I dont need to remark, that as a non-believer myself, I accept believers but I dont support them. For me, it's a bit of nonsense. Of course not economically, but as human beings? Of course. I dont know haha. Like you said, we're all human after all. Let's support each other.
I am gay. I despise Christianity and I don't support christians, but I tolerate them. I believe that all humans should be treated with respect. I don't care if you are christian or muslim, I will treat you the same. We are all human.
I support gay people, I do. However, as a Christian, I do not support the fact that they are sinning. That would be like me supporting the construction of a brothel in my community. I will support a prostitute, love him/her and try my best to bring them to God. But I will not support what they do.
This is exactly why I have much love for Silent Planet! I think gay people are fun and they are totally cool and just need somebody to accept and love them. I will not go the parades and stuff, but I have much love for the LGBTQ+ community and refuse to talk down or bad about them. They are people just like me, and we need to see them as such and not focus so much on thier appearance and sexual orientation.
This dude is spot on. I dont give a shit if someone else is gay. The bible says 2 things clearly: 1 judgment is mine, 2 above all of these things is love. its our job to love others, period. end of story
1:24 The Church has made it clear that we're to treat them with respect, compassion, and sensitivity[1]. That having been said, it's clearly outlined in both the Old Testament and the New: it _is_ a sin (one of four sins that cry to Heaven for Vengeance)[2][3][4][5][6]. One doesn't get to "decide" whether it's a sin or not. [1] CCC 2358 [2] Gen. 18:20-21 [3] Lev. 18:22 [4] Lev. 20:13 [5] Rom. 1:26-27 [6] 1 Cor. 6:9-10
The scripture says it is wrong so it is wrong to support the sin. However they are still a child of God so show them love as you would toward His other children
I agree with most of what he is saying. But I disagree that Conservatives aren’t being persecuted. I am a conservative and I have been bullied for my views multiple times, and have seen many videos of Conservatives being assaulted in public for wearing a MAGA hat or just being associated with a conservative protest or group.
The biggest mistake that A LOT of religious groups make is trying to throw judgement and that my friends is left up to our heavenly father above. Jesus says that if you offend one of my brothers or sisters then you offend me as well. He says he will spew you out of his mouth and deny you in front of his Father. If you are gay or bisexual or transgender I promise you that your heavenly Father loves you and you are a child of the Living God.
Love is paramount. They will know us by the fruit we bear. The debate over the sinful nature of homosexuality means nothing if the person doesn't know Christ. If you don't know HIs worth than why would you turn from your previous life. Focus on Jesus and the rest will fall into place.
Jesus and Paul told Christians to love everyone. Not everyone but homosexuals, not everyone but black people or white people, etc. Each and every person. You can note hundreds of verses in the new testament which allude to this.
I'm thankful for people like Garrett Russell and the rest of the members of Silent Planet. No matter what the topic, they always speak with love. I'm about it.
+Rebekah Brunson This is how Christianity is supposed to be.
1. Love everyone first
2. "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."
God is the only one who is allowed to or should judge.
If you stand by that, and are able to use scriptural references as a means to support this argument, can you please explain paul in 1Corinthians 5, and James in his last two verses of chapter 5, and Isaiah in Isaiah 5:20? What about Jude in his opening few verses?
Nathan Baker In 1 Corinthians 5, Paul says that it is not his business to judge anyone outside of the church in general. He says to 'expel the immoral brother' after warning a 'divisive person twice.' There is a difference between loving someone and agreeing with them. So, yes, I stand by loving anyone no matter if you agree with them or not.
James speaks of prayer in a righteous manner, I am not sure which correlation you are meaning to enact...could you be more specific?
With the text in Isaiah, there is a difference between knowing whether something is wrong or right, and then judging someone for it. No one is to judge, except God. Read Jude 9, when Michael says to Satan, 'The Lord rebuke you.' Not, 'I rebuke you,' because even he knows that God is the only one who can do such. Again, there is a difference between knowing right and wrong, and reserving judgement for He who is worthy of judging.
I will also reiterate the same for the Jude reference, I guess--even though I see no reason to. Again...Jude realizes what is right and wrong, but he is saying that one shouldn't sin simply because they know that God forgives. For Jesus, when He healed and forgave people while on this earth, He said, 'leave your life of sin.' Just because being a Christian means that you should be merciful doesn't mean that sin is right.
It's pretty simple. No one should be a judge of others; that is not our place. If someone is immoral, you and I have no business judging them, but that doesn't mean that we have to indulge in their time and efforts. It seems like "we are" simply becoming redundant of the same principle. Any questions?
Adam XYZ Of course I would love to clarify. Allow me to agree with you first in that Love is a must in all cases when dealing with the world. In ministry, the first (and sometimes only) thing I tell people of the world is that Jesus Christ loves them. This being understood, the message of the gospel does not end here. It sounds good to leave it there, but if we do, we are changing the gospel of Christ. “There is a way that seems right to a man, but it leads unto death”. We must not preach a gospel that sounds good by society’s standards (this was not the pattern we see in the bible) we must instead proclaim the gospel according to what Christ taught, and we can use the apostle’s writings as a guide also. I love the book of Acts specifically- in it you see Christians going radical for Christ, and the faith spreads like wildfire, but they never “tip-toe” around people’s feelings.
Your reference to 1 Cor. 5 is correct about not judging the world. I’m talking about the Church, and the Church’s complacent position on homosexuality. It is wrong. It must be understood as wrong. We do not hate them, we mourn for them, but it is still wrong. If they ask us what we think, we tell them it is wrong. We did not decide this, God did. And when Paul talks about people causing divisions, that is another passage, just so you know.
James 4:4- ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that friendship of the world is enmity (to become enemies) with God? Whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world will be an enemy of God.
James 5:19-20- brethren, if any of you do err from the truth and one convert him; let him know, that he which coverteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death and shall hide a multitude of sins.
Those were my two verses in James. Both emphasize the urgency to not associate with sin but rather try to turn people from it. If you have gay friends, and you haven’t told them what the Word truly says, you are not showing them love, because you allow them to live in their sin apart from Christ. You may disagree with me, but I urge you to base your opinion on scripture instead of worldly opinions.
Isaiah is very specific and his warning apply to us today. If we turn a blind eye to wickedness and do not acknowledge it as wrong, we are essentially blessing it off as good.
Jude is clearly condemning people in his writings. He even calls them “godless”, do you think that isn’t a judgement on his part? Of course it is. His reference about lucifer and michael was showing us not to speak about the Spiritual beings that we don’t understand. He stands on the Word of God and tells that to others, and in a sense this is exercising judgment.
The scriptures clearly command us to reveal truth to others. I do not judge. God’s Word has judged. If I read it to people and it’s convicting, that’s too bad. If I tell someone that what they are doing is displeasing to God, that isn’t wrong at all- rather it is loving. I do not do it out of hate or pride. Rather, the spirit in me compels me to try to reach people for sake of Christ’s love.
Now we are not the final authority, nor is it our place that we CONDEMN anyone. That is God’s place, but if we sit back and “tip toe” around people’s feelings, we are adding to the problem. We must stand on the Word of God and love others enough to tell them the truth they NEED to hear. If you aren’t doing that, you can’t honestly say that you love them- and you can’t say you love God either. That’s a hard truth, but it’s what we can derive from the Bible, and we must live by it. Be blessed.
Adam XYZ you got it messed up bro. Jesus says 1. love God with all your heart, mind, soul, strength. Then 2. love your neighbor as yourself. It's not Christianity if you start off any other way. Loving people is equally as important as loving the truth.
As a queer person and an atheist-leaning person, I have full respect for Christians like this.
The way he’s describing is exactly how the Bible says to treat people
@@alexrivers9785 There are anti-gay parts of the Bible too, but I totally agree with you that the overall message is about love. I wish more people would take that to heart.
@@ruaraidh74 Well, that's fair, and I wish that all Christians would take it like this. I do feel like calling it a "sin" creates a stigma around it though, even when people try to separate the sin and the sinner.
Thank you, it's nice to find someone of different beliefs on the internet that doesn't hate you. Nice pfp btw.
@@notstarboard in my experience, every Christian I have met has treated it this way. Yet the media likes to blow up stories of the outliers, giving us who truly follow the teachings of Christ a bad reputation. I promise, most of us handle situations like Garret, not like Westborro Baptist. God bless.
This man is filled with so much love. I can only imagine what the world would be like if everyone had his heart and mindset. Silent Planet... Garrett... we need more of this.
if everyone had his mindset I imagine the world would not be trash
Exactly what a real Christian should believe. nothing about this was wrong.
Morgan Breshears, To be a true Chisrtian is to be a follower of Christ I'd say. Meaning you try to do what he would do, and in this sense show Homosexuals love, not by condoning their lifestyle choices, but by emphasising with their struggles.
^ THIS. Same goes for any other "team" based ideology. We should never let politics get in the way of love.
Being a real Christian means "dying to the flesh", which is NOT following our own needs and desires but that of what the Lord Jesus Christ wants in order to have a true relationship with Him.
He's right on many levels for sure. But it's a balance ultimately with human compassion that needs the truth of Christ & what God said about it aswell. It's not one or the other. And this can be applied to universally all things.
Garret for President please.
No thanks.
This Garrett guy.. I have a ton of respect for this man:
He states his position consisely, no ambiguity, and very cogniscent of PEOPLE. Christ saw the women caught in adultery ready to be stoned He asked, "who among you is sinless may cast the first stone."... we know how that story ends.
Christ saw a woman, not a problem.
Tony Teichroeb You missed a key element. Jesus said, "Go and sin no more." Why, because sin separates from God. God loved us enough to send Jesus to save us and not condemn us. But he said God is the judge, and he said you need to flee from sin, why? Because sin continues to destroy us, not heal us. Only Christ and the blood of Christ can heal us, and only when we seek him, ask for forgiveness, and turn from our sins will we be forgiven. That is all sin. Why does God, our father want is to stop. Because he knows sin leads to hurting and eventually death. God loved us enough to say, "Stop."
@@thunderballz74 Is your concern with the lack of clothes and behavior, or with the fact that it's LGBT+ people? Please don't believe that gays are trying to change your children. As Garrett so correctly pointed out, people don't choose to be gay. It's also not effective to change someone's sexuality. Even when people specifically try to stamp the gay out of their children they don't succeed and just wind up alienating their children and making them feel miserable. If you can't change people's sexuality when they have every incentive to change, from family and social acceptance, to religious belief, to fear of violence, you're not going to change people by having a parade that a child might see. Plus, many LGBT+ people have had to suffer because of people wanted to change them; if anyone should understand that trying to change someone's sexuality is wrong and unproductive, it's LGBT+ people.
I hope that you will support your son if he one day tells you he's LBGT+. Garrett is 100% right on this. You might believe that it's a sin. You might not understand how people can feel that way. You might worry of what your family, friends, and community will think. At the end of the day, though, LGBT+ people are just people and deserve all of the love and respect that should be shown to any person.
@@ehdforlife Right my friend, JESUS said: "Go and sin no more". YESHUA, the only One in the whole Universe Who's never sinned. The only Worthy Being that can say that. Revelation 5:4 "no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon" no one but "the Lion of the tribe of Judah" (Rev 5:5) and we know Who Is. Our Savior Jesus Christ so let's be humble and leave the judgment to Him.
Peace to All.
This is absolutely awesome. Thank you so much for speaking on this. you don’t know how much this actually means to people like me. I’ve had so many bad experiences with Christian people regarding me being trans, lesbian and also being a Christian. God didn’t make mistakes when he made us this way. I love you guys and love this band.
So glad I've stumbled upon this interview! I was actually, about five feet away when the dude was arguing with him. Afterwards, I got to have a wonderful conversation with Garrett. Love this band.
Silent Planet is love. Silent Planet inspires me to be love. And as humans, that's the hardest thing for anyone to be. It's the reason why we turn to God or turn away from God because He is perfect love. Thank God for Garrett and the rest of Silent Planet. And once again, thank you Tim for sharing such powerful messages. You're equally as much a part of this movement as Garrett because you choose to share such controversial and powerful messages. All my love man
+Tyler Weinacker thank you so much dude. I really hope this video helps people understand that Christians aren't all the same and I hope it helps Christians understand what true love is.
Wait who's Tim??
+Zkiel Redangel Tim Cayem; the dude who runs this channel, does these awesome interviews, and films all the gnarly drum cams
+Tyler Weinacker oh thanx I was so confused lol.
Saw silent planet for the first time a couple days ago(7/5) at warped and I got to meet the band. They are so kind, sweet and caring and just give off the warm, loving vibe its overwhelming. The world needs more people like them.. And they put on one hell of a show.
This is awesome, thanks for posting....exactly how I feel about this topic!
Garrett is such a beautiful person. I met him years ago and we were talking for a little bit. Before I could even ask him to sign my arm he asked if I could sign his because he thought I was such an amazing person♥️
I wish I would see him... He's such a cool person
Sometimes I think Garrett is an Angel! And he reminds me kind of how I imagine Jesus was. What a beautiful, loving, brilliant, brave, compassionate soul. It inspires me how he radiates love even though he has his own internal pain & struggles. (He's been open about his Bipolar Disorder diagnosis & is a great mental health advocate as well). We need more caring people like him in the world! 🥰🙌💖🙏💫
i met garrett last night and he is such a genuine and authentic earthling, literally such an amazing person and what a christian should resemble !! thank you garrett
Love your name lol
I'd say this is pretty much a perfect response. Thank you Garrett.
"Love the sinner, hate your own-we're in this together." -Preston Sprinkle
Thank you Garrett and the whole Silent Planet squad for radiating the light of God in this music industry
This is cool and all, but is that a red starbucks cup? Because last I checked that's a chief sin.
Troll points +10
starbucks is satanic symbolism
Mark T Starbucks=Satan comfiererimied.
Alastair Heinrichs Bahaha!
Alastair Heinrichs let’s just let Starbucks keep doing what they are doing, that is killing and ostracizing there own market.
Good stuff but the flash bangs every other sentence were killin me
Yeah, that's unnecessary...and that's coming from the editor side of me
Very eloquently stated on Garrett's part, a beautiful sentiment on something I can't agree with more.
I'm not religious at all, I'm a trained scientist and it's just the way my brain works, but I try to be as understanding and supportive of ANYONE's else beliefs. However, often I see people use these religions they claim are based on "love" as an excuse to hate.
It's shitty, no matter what you believe.
Thanks for the wise words Garrett, hopefully some people listen instead of just hearing what you're saying.
His opinion on gays doesnt revolve around if its wrong so much as its about defending the people who are clearly being mistreated and unfairly persecuted. Any human being not willing to own up to the injustice, internal or external, is in the wrong. No excuses.
Part of his ministry includes helping LGBT individuals have shelter, clothes, etc. because they have been treated poorly for a status that falls short of a standard, which in turn gives no one a position to preach any sort of Jesus story to them. The idea that there even needs to be a clear standing on subjects like this piss me off because these events dont neccesarily have a direct cause, its a worldview already formed from a lifetime you cant understand.
The world is a better place because of this man.
Love and protect people who are marginalized? You mean like Jesus did?
on a mutual note this band is amazing and what Garrett is saying is all summed up by he who is without sin cast the first stone and "the greatest of these is love". love love love we all need it desperately
Man liberation theology has really seeped its way into the culture.
sooo much respect for this guy + Silent Planet. I just recently found this band, so glad I did
I'm a homosexual and want to thank you Tim for sharing this on your platform, and Garrett for intelligently discussing this topic, drawing from his own experiences. The discussion is thought provoking. I'm privileged to come from supportive family and friends, and I would argue the LGBTQ community needs to reciprocate the respect in other cultural and religious beliefs.
I spoke about this a little in a reply to another comment, but I'm friends with a Mormon family who I suspect is uncomfortable about my sexuality, but has never degraded me for it and in fact welcomes me into their home for dinner or to chat. We may not understand our different sets of beliefs and origins, but we *do* understand that those things don't stop us from being respectful to another human being.
Eloquently spoken, Garrett. This has challenged my own heart and mind toward the whole "debate". I think it's important to be conformed to the image of Christ and what God's Word says about sexuality, sin, brokenness, etc. But most importantly, our love for God's creation (i.e. other human beings) should be an overflow from the love that Christ showed us on the cross. And that should naturally manifest itself in humble self-reflection, as well as self-sacrificial love toward everyone, no matter where they are at on their journey. When we point people to Christ, THAT is where transformation, renewal and healing begins - not in heated apologetic debates.
THIS IS SO RIGHT
I have never liked organised relegion purely for all these reasons, because I hate how so many debates on the way people are as human beings lead to mass confusion and hate on all sides, and everyone forgetting we are talking about humans. As a bisexual guy I will defend who I am from anyone who seeks to marginalise or oppress me, but I will also respect the relegious views of anyone who just wants to live and let live, regardless of what their personal beliefs are, those people represent all the beauty in faith and religion.
Wow, well said. I’m one of agnostic belief , but I completely respect his views on this topic. What a level headed dude
Being new to the Christian faith, I'm happy to hear you use the words "Bull Sh!t" because I've been being hard on myself for not being able to censor my bad words. As much as I try to, they still slip out every now & then. Stay blessed, my brother.
Those who are watching, in the beginning 1:06 he even says that it is a sin. He’s not saying its not a sin or defending it by any means, he clearly states that the Bible says it’s wrong and he knows it’s wrong. The point he’s making is how do you treat people who are gay and to love them and show the love of Christ. Love thy neighbor as thy self. Do unto others the way you want to be treated.
I already said that but this need to have more attention. These words are wisdom
Good Day and also very Best Wishes : Thank you for the excellent topics. Well done. David Shaw:
You be you. I will be me. Just dont push your choice on me. Im starting to get a little tired of people who try to ram down my throat how I should feel. Im entitled to my opinion. I dont try to shove down your throat my beliefs. If everyone understoods that, there should be no issue.
Garrett is a real one 💯met him last year and he is a solid dude.
This makes me love Silent Planet even more
Let me ask this. If someone is a homosexual before they come to Christ, and remain a homosexual after coming to Christ, are they really changed, or just too stubborn to acknowledge that it's sinful? Does a murderer keep killing people once he becomes a Christian? Does a former alcoholic that is now a Christian go back to being an alcoholic? Proverbs 26:11 says "As a dog returns to his vomit, so a fool repeats his folly." Jesus even told the woman caught in adultery described in John 8, whom several people wanted to stone, to "go and sin no more."
I understand what Garrett is saying, but if he isn't implying that a man being attracted to other men is as natural as a man being attracted to women all his life, then how else can it be interpreted. I agree with loving one another, but that includes gradually letting them know what is and isn't acceptable in God's kingdom for those wanting to be part of His family forever. if being gay and a Christian was commended by God, then Paul the Apostle would not have included homosexual behavior in 1 Corinthians 6 as being one of the actions that would deny someone access to heaven. If you fornicate (have pre-marital sex), steal, slander, practice prostitution, worship a false god, or indulge in homosexuality, and think you can get to heaven without repenting of 1 or more of them, you're only deceiving yourself.
Why is this light hearted and loving conversation looking like its outside, right before hurricane katrina, with such creepy music?
This is so good💯
Beautifully said Garrett ❤️
I really appreciate Garrett's point that not everyone is on one extreme or the other. I'm an 18 year old Catholic who has gone to Catholic school my whole life and who goes to Mass every Sunday. I am well educated in Church theology and doctrine, and I understand that above all else Jesus called us to love one another. Pope Francis has called us to accept our homosexual brothers and sister lovingly and with open arms - ignorance is truly not what the Church teaches. Of course there are always those who remain ignorant or hardhearted, but it is not the Christian way.
This such an amazing explanation.
this is so very important
I am a Christian and I enthusiastically approve this message.
I’m a completely heterosexual male who was part of my school’s GSA in high school. I’ve always been very vocal about my support for LGBT rights and I’ve always been completely disgusted by homophobia. I remember seeing this in my senior year of high school and showing it to my friends in the GSA. Most of them were gay, bisexual, transgender, etc., and I was one of the first straight people they had ever met to support them, and I wanted them to see that I wasn’t the only one. The teacher who ran the group played this video on the smart board. After it was over, one of my friends who is both lesbian and on the autistic spectrum got up and said that people like Garrett are the reason she can marry a woman if she wants to. I think I’ll always remember that.
I have gay friends, and never thought of them a sinners or people who sin, they are the complete opposite. I listen to christian metalcore and hardcore a lot, and think its cool to see open minded christians, about gays/lesbians/bi's/transgender as well, and support each other. Love should be a good thing regardless of sexuality. I'm agnostic, and support gay rights, and human rights. If love is good, we should treat gays and lesbians the same way, not just those who are straight.
Try to understand,that I love my homosexual friends and family,but it’s not a stretch to not see them as sinners.
They are sick and need God to correct them.
It is not judging,God has already condemned these actions.
Garrett.... YOU ARE THE MAN.
even if you believe homosexuality is wrong, the policy should still be love the sinner, hate the sin.
this. 👍
In any terms, Paul calls the church to bring sin to the attention of other believers personally. If this has already been done, and the sin persists knowingly, the church is called to 'expel' the immoral brother. But, in terms of non-Christians, the church has absolutely no place condemning or hating non-believers. This is the same with any sin: if a non-believer is unfaithful to their spouse, the church has no business butting in--but, if there is unfaithfulness in the church, it should be brought to light. Read 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 for clarification.
"What the hell are the debates for?" THAT IS THE REAL QUESTION! What are you trying to do when you confront people? What is your mission?
"Look at the person, not the label". So well freeekn said.
I agree with garret. like you don't need to shame people based on preferences or beliefs, no one should hate or shame anyone no matter the context, just support friends and family no matter what.
I love this man already.
So right on! If our purpose isn't to love then there is no purpose at all.
You Are Awesome Bro Love You.
all people deserve compassion but they also deserve the truth otherwise your beliefs are in vein
Based. I'm saving that. Pretty helpful dose of wisdom for me and for all of us to keep in mind for everything too honestly.
But yeah, I was trying to figure out what Garrett was missing. Thank you dude!
reguardless if i believe homosexuality is a sin (which i do) i always treat them as a human being. being a rape victim who struggles against homosexual tendencies i wouldn't dare tell some of the people in my church. i am called to be a pastor and a Christian Rock musician. the struggle is real but i know this.... My God is bigger.
if you struggle with homosexual tendencies then you're a homosexual. there's nothing wrong with that man. please be the person that you really are and don't "fight against" something that would make you happy with who you are.
+noredorgreen actually i don't struggle with them anymore. you're only homosexual if you identify yourself as one which is why its called a sexual preference/orientation. scripture wise theres a lot of issues with it. God broke my chains of bondage. my struggling came from a traumatizing rape experience.
+noredorgreen that wasn't who i was. who i am is a Christian who has been through a lot of battles and has a lot of battle scars.
Preach it!
Can I ask you a question? Hypothetically, if the world was suddenly given the chance to collectively vote on whether or not gay marriage should be legal, what would you vote?
Christ commanded us to LOVE. Not judge, not criticize, not beat for being different, etc. To love. Love, patience, kindness. This is what christ taught, and this gentleman is a wonderful example of that in action. New to Silent Planet, and already enjoy the music so much, now im just as big a fan of the artists behind the music 💜.
"Let him who is without sin cast the first stone"
I saw the shirt he talks about at one of their shows and thought "oh they're 'those' Christians."
Now I wish I had bought it, lol.
I LOVE YOUR SP VIDEOS
I love this man.
If you don't correct a brother in Christ for committing a sin openly; you don't truly love them, because you're allowing them to go to hell.
I'm not trying to argue... But when you openly judge others or sin in every day life, which everyone does... Then that means you're going to hell too, right? Last time I checked, if someone accepts Jesus as their savior then they're saved, regardless of sin. That's actually exactly why Jesus died on the cross, for all us sinners. As Garrett said, to make a hierarchy of sin is pretty ridiculous. All sin is sin the eyes of God
Hello my name is Alec and I'm a human being and I am also homosexual. That being said I did not choose to be gay the same way that you did not choose to be straight. It's how you were born. Considering that truth, the way that someone is born cannot be classified as a sin. The same way that being born African-American, Native American, Mexican-American cannot be classified as a sin either. I'm definitely not asking you to change your opinion, I'm just asking you to look at the facts.
+Alec Vogel this is pretty awesome man and a very eye opening way to look at it. Regardless of how we are born, we sin and I think it's ludicrous to look at someone else and think their life is more sinful than another's based on no facts and mere speculation, which is what so many people do... Not just Christians. Thanks for commenting this cause it's definitely time people start moving past such outdated ways of thinking
+Tyler Weinacker Sin is sin but clearly there are varying degrees.
+Alec Vogel But choosing to act on it is a sin. I'm attracted to women and if I act on those feelings before marriage I'm sinning. Factually you don't have to act on those feelings the same as I have not acted on mine towards women, I'm wanting until marriage. Now I assume your response will be then what can you do because you're not attracted to women? My response would be if you're Christian then you would have faith god will reward you for staying strong. If you're not a Christian then I guess it doesn't matter just do what you want.
I wonder what a shouting match with Garrett Russell would be like.
I 100% completely agree with Garrett's message, I just don't care for his swearing nor do I think that's right
No one gives a flying fuck shit what you think
He has blinded their eyes and hardened their hearts, so they can neither see with their eyes, nor understand with their hearts, nor turn--and I would heal them."
I'm not religious, if someone wants to be religious, awesome!! But when they start treating people like they're less than human, and try to take away their rights because "it's against my religion" is where the line needs to be drawn. If you think being gay is a sin... don't be gay. But don't try to keep other people from being who they are. If everyone tried to stop people from doing things they didn't like, we'd all be standing in one place never accomplishing anything.
it is clear he knows his way with words. He beats around the bush because he doesn't want to piss off anybody... what I got from this painfully long explanation is that he indeed thinks homosexuality is a sin, but we should also see them as people just like any other because we all sin differently and we shouldn't judge others while comitting sin ourselves.
not that i agree with him (naturally, since I am not a Christian). But I guess I respect his answer. He is one of the rare Christians who can say that he loves homosexuals, even though it is a "sin"
The whole time I was just thinking "damn he has big hands"
Holy crap he does
I love this kid, and I really want that shirt
Regarding Christians, when you're a christian the question you should always ask yourself when your even doubt if something is sinful is does this obey the two greatest commandments? Does this show love to the lord with all of my heart, soul, body, strength and mind? and does this allow me to love my neighbor as myself? If we obey these commandments everything else will fall into place.
Simple beautiful. This is truely christ-like.
I would love to have a beer and talk to him. Highly educated articulate and mostly a good dude
thank you
Please someone, link me to the song in the background
Such a solid dude
I agree to a certain degree as a Christian but then again me and Garett have several different beliefs.
I'm proud to be your friend.
Let us not confuse what is sin and how we as Christians share the expression of the love of Christ by our actions. Jesus said let our yes be yes and our no be no anything else is of the devil. There is no grey in truth. We are not to treat any sin different than any other, but at the same time just as Jesus loved us in our sin we are to love all sinners and share the true Gospel of Jesus Christ calling all sinners to repentance. The whole purpose of our love to non christians is to share the Gospel to allow the Holy Spirit to work in their heart to bring conviction of their sin. We are
not to be friends with the lost, we are called to love all men that they would believe the Gospel, REPENT of their sin and receive eternal life
What I always go back to is this -- sin is sin. So if you have never sinned before, you can be the first to condemn a gay person. Here's the catch though - you're not perfect. You sin, I sin, everyone sins, whether it be in one way or another. I don't agree with the act of homosexuality, but that doesn't mean I hate everyone who practices that way. Garrett said it well and I think we as a people should be more loving and respectful towards each other.
Beautiful explanation as always Garrett. However, a bit confused about your confusion about the hierarchy of sin. Sure, all sin distracts us from God, but wouldn't murder distract us more than swearing or telling a small lie? I mean maybe not, as a Catholic (who are Christians btw some people don't know that so..) I've been taught the venial vs moral sin difference and it seems rather logical for me and that's saying a lot because I see some very illogical dogmas of the Church. Just wondering if you could provide further insight or explanation into your beliefs because they truly are inspiring.
Read 1 corintians 4:4 buddy your answer is there :) god sees no sin bigger than another sin.. In fact sin cannot separate us from god, only we can and that's what paul explains in that verse... That just because your concience is clean it doesn't mean you are justified. In other words, telling a lie doesn't make you feel 'separated from god' because you just didn't let it get to you as much. Sorry for the long paragraph dude, I hope this helps because it helped me :D
Can we hear this in a Silent Planet song?
This is exactly why Jesus said to love one another. It doesn’t matter who someone identifies as. Love is our weapon everyone!
Rodrigo Sanchez hmm..... what about pedophiles and murders?
It actually does matter. Love isn't void of Truth. Jesus says to repent. Christians are supposed to tell the truth in love.
Jesus also said to repent. For the woman who was caught in the act of adultery, he said "go and sin no more."
We should love everyone no matter what
John 8:7 "So when they continued asking Him, He lifted Himself up and said unto them, 'He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her'."
"Then Jesus lifting up himself, said to her: Woman, where are they that accused thee? Hath no man condemned thee? Who said: No man, Lord. And Jesus said: Neither will I condemn thee. Go, and now _sin no more."_ (St. Jn. 8:10-11)
RESPECT
I'm a bit confused. Why are so many Christians cursing openly? I'm kind of stumbling over that. Great message though.
I am a christian. I don't support gay people, but I do not hate them, or fear them. I believe that all humans should be treated with respect. I don't care if you are gay or straight, i will treat you the same. We are all human.
there is a difference in supporting and loving. Supporting them would be like me going to a LGBT parade and donating money to their cause. (which I would never do, because I don't support them.)
Financially or economically? Me neither, but I support them to have the same rights as you have as, I guess, you being heterosexual. As I dont need to remark, that as a non-believer myself, I accept believers but I dont support them. For me, it's a bit of nonsense. Of course not economically, but as human beings? Of course. I dont know haha. Like you said, we're all human after all. Let's support each other.
agreed. I respect you for your maturity and kindness.
I am gay. I despise Christianity and I don't support christians, but I tolerate them. I believe that all humans should be treated with respect. I don't care if you are christian or muslim, I will treat you the same. We are all human.
I support gay people, I do. However, as a Christian, I do not support the fact that they are sinning. That would be like me supporting the construction of a brothel in my community. I will support a prostitute, love him/her and try my best to bring them to God. But I will not support what they do.
This is exactly why I have much love for Silent Planet! I think gay people are fun and they are totally cool and just need somebody to accept and love them. I will not go the parades and stuff, but I have much love for the LGBTQ+ community and refuse to talk down or bad about them. They are people just like me, and we need to see them as such and not focus so much on thier appearance and sexual orientation.
@@ruaraidh74 what? I don't get what you are trying to say
GOOD CHRISTIANS ARE AWESOME
This dude is spot on. I dont give a shit if someone else is gay. The bible says 2 things clearly: 1 judgment is mine, 2 above all of these things is love. its our job to love others, period. end of story
1:24 The Church has made it clear that we're to treat them with respect, compassion, and sensitivity[1]. That having been said, it's clearly outlined in both the Old Testament and the New: it _is_ a sin (one of four sins that cry to Heaven for Vengeance)[2][3][4][5][6]. One doesn't get to "decide" whether it's a sin or not.
[1] CCC 2358
[2] Gen. 18:20-21
[3] Lev. 18:22
[4] Lev. 20:13
[5] Rom. 1:26-27
[6] 1 Cor. 6:9-10
All things Are possible with Christ Jesus All things
The scripture says it is wrong so it is wrong to support the sin. However they are still a child of God so show them love as you would toward His other children
wise words
I agree with most of what he is saying. But I disagree that Conservatives aren’t being persecuted. I am a conservative and I have been bullied for my views multiple times, and have seen many videos of Conservatives being assaulted in public for wearing a MAGA hat or just being associated with a conservative protest or group.
And now the republican that got publically shot and killed in a protest
The biggest mistake that A LOT of religious groups make is trying to throw judgement and that my friends is left up to our heavenly father above. Jesus says that if you offend one of my brothers or sisters then you offend me as well. He says he will spew you out of his mouth and deny you in front of his Father. If you are gay or bisexual or transgender I promise you that your heavenly Father loves you and you are a child of the Living God.
Amen.
Love is paramount. They will know us by the fruit we bear. The debate over the sinful nature of homosexuality means nothing if the person doesn't know Christ. If you don't know HIs worth than why would you turn from your previous life. Focus on Jesus and the rest will fall into place.
Jesus and Paul told Christians to love everyone. Not everyone but homosexuals, not everyone but black people or white people, etc. Each and every person. You can note hundreds of verses in the new testament which allude to this.