Granted... It was not a formal debate, but this discussion was chocked full of interesting little conflicts. The quote above about "limiting damage" is really just a meme (tho true) and pops up on many Jared videos.
native British are a minority in London today. They have been replaced by replacement migration ethnic cleansing pushed by UN. London is no longer a British city. Whilst the globalists and left celebrates this replacement of whole european nations.
I live in London and I see daily how it changes. I am planning to move to a a less "diverse" area. So what is your point - are you saying that you are happy about replacement migration and celebrate that London, England Capital City is now longer British let alone English. Will you be happy when the native British are all minorities in their homelands?
Isn't it Jared? Not Jarod. And it's quite obvious when he's being racist. You don't need to mention the N word for it to be so obvious. He supports segregation and sees non-whites as inferior people. He's admitted as much.
@@NA-kr5uq Should Mexico be inhabited by primarily Mexicans? Surely the Chinese should remain the majority in their own land? Before you throw out the myth of the "melting pot" I invite you to read the Naturalization act of 1790 and learn about what the founding fathers ACTUALLY had in mind for the future of the nation.
Sargon would argue with Jared about the existence of racial differences in some area, Jared would further clarify his point, then Sargon would immediately switch to an “ought” and ignore the fact that Jared proved his point and that Sargon was wrong about the existence of the difference.
TheEfficentPiggie Exactly right. I gave up halfway through for that reason. The impasse is not too surprising: Sargon lives in the UK town of Swindon, which, according to Wiki, is 83% white. 7% Asian and only 1.4% black. He appears to have got his ideas about race in the US from reading the Guardian and watching the BBC. The whole racial issue is, for him, purely theoretical.
I disagree with Sargon. I'm European. I'm proud to be European. European civilization is the most advanced & by far the most culturally rich civilization in history.
The fact that western Europeans, particularly the Germanic people that have dominated recent world history, were behind the rest of the world from the Neolithic period until the middle of the second millennium is proof that they were not particularly creative. They did however benefit from considerable geographic fortune that only began to manifest itself quite recently.
Muhammad Ali: "Listen. Blue birds fly with blue birds, red birds fly with red birds [...] pigeons wanna be with pigeons [...] I want my child to look like me, any intelligent person wants his child to look like him. I’m sad because I wanna blend out my race and lose my beautiful identity? Chinese love Chinese [...] Pakistanis love their culturue, Jewish people love their culture [...] you can take no Chinese man and give him a Puerto Rico woman [...] it’s nature to want to be with your own. I wanna be with my own. "
I'm not white but this guy has some good points. I know plenty of minorities who think the same things he is saying, just in favor of thier own particular race.
ALL "minorities" advocate for themselves ESPECIALLY when they can force gains from whites through direct or indirect accusations of "racism". The fact is: if whites want to live among themselves they should be allowed to. Just as blacks and hispanics should. Why should ANYONE be opposed to this? I'd feel FAR safer and more comfortable living in an all white area. If I "miss out" on the "wonders" of diversity, then that's my loss, isn't it? Or is it that blacks and hispanics fear not having whites to do their heavy lifting?
Thats true, nobody bats and eye if a black person says similar things to what he says. A black mother can tell their children that she wants black grand children, same for asian. That's normal. But it's unacceptable for a white person to say that.
True but in a place like the United States where there are millions and millions of different nationalities, ethnicities most of which who speak different languages, has different religions, cultures etc it's impossible for most of these groups to cooperate or have some kind of meaningful agreement especially when it comes to resources. The only groups in my opinion I believe can coexist peacefully in the United States are probably the Asian Americans, Pacific Islander Americans, and Native Americans.
I’m half white and prefer white because that’s where the progress is at the moment. I’m a humanist as in I want what’s best for humanity as a whole. Maybe one day blacks and others can reach a higher scientific attainment and contribution to humanity but right now we need the Huwhites(as Taylor says it lol) to move progress forward. I think it’s genetic because Whites needed to cooperate and think their way out of harsh winters. They bred for cooperation and intelligence. Blacks and every other race can do the same but it will take a long time. Whites were once known as the barbarians to the sophisticated romans so there’s proof it can happen but it will take at least 1000yrs 😕
No true communism / no true islam / no true black supremacists / no true non-white racist / no true british cuisine / no true white culture / no true zionists / no true son of god and so on
Also, when the white colonials left African countries, the blacks turned on each other on racist grounds, as in, they drew the line between how much darker skin tone they had. Read en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wretched_of_the_Earth
Bullshit, being colonized by a superior group is how civilization spreads. Ask the Barbarians in England, France and Germany about that Roman colonization.
Whoa an interview between Jared and someone who disagrees with him where they actually let Jared speak and don't try to beat him down with inane rambling.
Neobushranger I recently was turned away from Sargon due to his Nazis are bad videos but I give him credit here. I like here how he genuinely gives someone like Jared Taylor a chance to speak and discuss ideas. Sargon gets credit, you're not alone imo.
It is indeed, unfortunately, very refreshing and helpful for someone like me that can shift sides easily when thorough arguments are presented without shouting being involved.
Watch this then. Jared Taylor was a guest on The Young Turks show, and he was shouted down and ridiculed by the host, Cenk Uygur, and Jared Taylor hung up on him, quite rightly. ua-cam.com/video/oxhsSLos8hk/v-deo.html
The Dr. Race Hustler Richy vs Taylor debate for example. Dr. Richy tried to control the conversation by overtalking Taylor as he always does, whenever someone is far more intelligent than himself.
He has a mental block about the issue of race. He has been programmed to believe that "racist" is the worst possible label and he cannot break free of this. He is a multiculturalist at heart and refuses to accept that white people can have racial identity- he thinks too highly of the notion of extreme individualism because of his rather childish understanding of history. He lives in a bubble of idealism and has never experienced the realities of race.
Of course the fact that he (like myself) is racially mixed, makes the idea of racial identity a terrifying prospect because there's the fear of being left out; the fear of society changing and not being welcome. After considerable thought I came to the conclusion that it's oppressive to deny any racial group the freedom to unite or segregate as they wish, I would like to be part of a group, even though I'll never 100% fit in. That's my cross to bear and not the fault of any group.
Are you joking? I just scrolled through at least 100 different photos of the collection of those riots, most of the dudes taking part were white chavs.
@@chrisgardbard Well when I looked they were Black so is saying look at the photos a great statistical response? And considering only 45% of London was White British back in 2011 what do you think they majority of rioters were... statically?
A smarty-pants like you could surely make your homeland a better place. Shame you would choose to selfishly leech off the white man instead of improving the land of your ancestors.
A. There was no America until whites founded it. B. I was born in Europe and I live in Europe, and I'm looking forward to help throw you trespassers out.
Ok so how exactly am I leeching off of America? "you are not really hurting my feelings" That's exactly what someone with hurt feelings would say. "my fellow European " How pathetic. I know being Persian must be embarrassing but pretending to be something you're not is just sad.
From what I've heard North and South Koreans do see each other as the same people, just with rogue governments, it's also important to remember that both countries are ethnocentric to varying degrees, with South korea being less tribalistic due to greater wealth, urbanization and less communist propaganda being pumped into their heads, though would easily be considered far right on Identitarian issues. Anyways, culture obviously isn't completely genetically determined. But if the North were to become more capitalist, it certainly wouldn't resemble Europe or any western country in terms of how the people behave and think of themselves. The north and south also used to be the same kingdom until the 1950's, so I imagine you'd see many unifying elements of Korean culture become more visible too.
Well the question, at least in my eyes, is between the alternative right; do they want a *white ethnostate,* or do they want traditionally or majority white countries to *become white ethnostates?* The former is debatable; the latter is unacceptable.
@@user-il5hy5tr5z its undeniable jared taylor has a special talent on conveying his ideas and his premise is totally sound and even sensible to want his kind to stay homogeneous. Globalists like you trying to pollute the gene pool of beautiful people from European countries are divisive malignant infection. We are growing more and more aware of this paradigm.
@Haseeb 2 He's not really Japanese of course - but Jared Taylor was raised as a white minority in Japan. He speaks fluent Japanese as well as French. He wrote an excellent essay about Japan entitled "In Praise of Homogeneity" - definitely worth googling and reading.
@haseeb2167Japan is not a collectivist nation. It’s a strictly culturally and ethnically homogeneous country with very tight social norms. These are not the same things.
Jared Taylor is right. I'm a Brit living in the North of England, most people up here would agree with Mr Taylor, the average working Brit does not agree with the multi racial or multicultural society forced on the UK.
Ste H Too bad the Jew in your government couldn't care less about what working British men thinks. And, btw, Mohammad is a working British man, too. Checkmate.
@Bustaperizm Ok assclown, show me the existence of a trend where societies with two (or more) races living in close proximity to each other have the exact same culture. Hint: you can't
Tell that to White Nationalists such as RamZPaul, John Derbyshire, Charles Murray, Andrew Anglin, Lucas King, Richard Spencer, Black Pigeon Speaks, John Friend, Mike Cernovich, Matt Forney, Charles Johnson and Matt Forney who date, marry and procreate with Asian women.
Sargon, I'm from Birmingham, and I can tell you - every single person I know (me included) has moved further out or left here completely, no exceptions... Not one has moved closer to the 'diverse' areas of town, they are escaping it and its completely natural, there's NO white parents here saying 'I'm moving further into city to put my kids into a school with Africans and Pakistanis'.... It's the exact opposite. And whether they admitted it or not (overwhelmingly they admitted it) it was the changing demographics of the city that moved them to the 'whiter' areas. Whites that haven't experienced mass immigration into an area in close proximity to them, really do not care about race, purely because it doesn't affect them. Why try and battle with this, when it flies in the face of human nature - let people live in harmony with their own people. People don't want this, if they did, as I mentioned - white parents would be flocking into the inner city to let their children go to school with all the ethnics. You are UNDERESTIMATING race by far, you're living in fantasy land my friend, maybe you should move into an Pakistani area as an experiment.... See what 'enlightenment' you can find there..... Good luck.
Well written ma man, I live in a lovely white area of south Staffordshire yet work in Smethwick and when I drive through “their area” I feel like I should have my passport stamped. These areas will never again be occupied by WASPS as long as these foreign masses occupy these areas. No one who’s white wants a brown neighbour just a basic fact of life.
Jared is absolutely correct about how whites already 'segregate' themselves when they have the means. If you lived in my area, you'd easily see this. Im 50 miles from a major city with a horrendous commute. I know many upper middle class and above people who work in the city every day, and were not born in this area. Why are they here? To be away from the city, to be in a place they feel comfortable and they pay for it with their time and money. To believe that the city's problems dont have a racial component is silly.
To make a connection between the fall of ancient Rome and the fact that it was a diverse place shows just how simplistic views like this are. How can one learn from history, as people like you are constantly telling us to do, when you have such a childlike interpretation of it?
As soon as Sargon admitted that men are tribal beings, he completely lost this debate. He really is no classical individualist liberal, but a "displaced leftie".
Vodk Tonyq You *do* realize that someone who claims a particular political affiliation *doesn't* have to embrace every single plank in the platform. That's a leftist thing with their "purity tests" & ensuing purges.
Here in Ireland our government are dropping males from all over the world in large numbers;from different countries and backgrounds into communities and it hasn't gone down well with the public at all,I think Jared is one hundred percent right that you can't force integration,it happens naturally or it doesn't. You can feel the tension in the air because thousands of immigrants have been dropped into communities and the Irish public have been told to just deal with it and that's a fast way to trouble starting
Your government, like all western governments, have been taken over by Globalists. They have all of the money and all of the blackmail. Policians are owned not elected these days.
The main difference between the two is life experience. Sargon believes that universally shared values can overcome race over time, and Jared knows that this simply doesn't happen in real life. That's why Jareds own position evolved from basic racial egalitarianism to his current status
or he is just racist. dyou not think about that? i dont care what your life experiences are if you see black people as having a lower mental capacity youre a scumbag
Yet islamic history tells us otherwise....anyone could go as high as a Grand Viseir...simply convert....black eunuchs were treated badly...that is true.....but eventually, arabs became second to Turks....hence turkey dumped arabic script and language for latin....many famouse pirates were greek or caucasian janissaries or even captured frankish galley slaves who converted....Barbarossa(red beard,NOT Frederick.) was one.
In Islam, one's level of God-consciousness (piety) is the standard of nobility, not race or nationality: "O mankind, We have created you from a male and a female and have made you into nations and tribes for you to know one another. Truly, the noblest of you with God is the most pious. God is All-Knowing, All-Aware." Quran, 49:13. "O people! Your God is one and your forefather (Adam) is one. An Arab is not better than a non-Arab and a non-Arab is not better than an Arab, and a white person is not better than a black person and a black person is not better than a white person, except in piety." Saying of the Prophet Muhammad (s).
A lot of churches are the same in my experience. Our church (when I was a kid) was 98% white. We would have meet ups with other churches in the summer and there was definitely a racial segregation going on through choice and the church culture tended to reflect that. Even though the Bible teaches to love everyone, people just naturally gravitated towards different congregations.
I don't believe it's "natural" to gravitate towards ethno-centrism, just as it's not "natural" to gravitate towards selfishness or greed. There are higher, more universal values; it is these that religion calls mankind to. Ethno-centrism is a deficiency of faith.
Chino Gambino. - Religion is essentially this: 1) the affirmation of the priority of God (that God - the Absolute - is the origin of all being and meaning, and hence the origin of all goodness), and 2) a way to live in harmony with the Being of God. - Religion therefore begins with metaphysics - which is timeless and universal - and not with particular forms in time and space. Yes, the timeless truth is manifested in time and space (as a historical tradition), but it is not reducible to time and space. - Going back to the quotes of the Quran and Prophet Muhammad (s) I gave earlier, the principle being established is that it is not by membership to some tribe, nation, or race that is the source of one’s dignity or nobility, but rather the source is one’s level of consciousness of the Absolute (taqwa; i.e., piety). - Suppose what you said is in fact true: some Arabs do regard themselves as superior to non-Arabs. From this you conclude that: Islam doesn’t eliminate racism; thereby, you imply that Islam doesn’t really support justice and oppose racism. - Your logic is equivalent to this: some people still commit crimes in society; therefore, the law doesn’t eliminate crime; therefore, the law doesn’t really support justice and oppose crime. - The mistake you make is not to begin from first principles, you therefore seem to fail to realise that the law (and Islam) do advocate the truth and a way to live in harmony with the truth. If some people violate the truth, it is not a damnation upon the truth, but shows the shortcoming of those people.
Fun fact: Jared Taylor is a fact about himself. Fun fact 2: the fact that he is a fact about himself is, itself, also a fact. ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ ~ f a c t c e p t i o n ~
What Taylor is talking about applies to Australia also, look at Sydney, all the different racial/cultural groups are in the process of naturally segregating in the suburbs. And in any of the suburbs that start to have too much ‘diversity’ the whites pack up and leave.
Jared Cox Then you're an idiot. People who promote racism of any stripe, whether it be Jared Taylor or Gazi Kodo, are destroyers and dividers. Fuck 'em.
Joshua Edwards Tossing the word "racism" around is quickly losing its force. The blunt fact is that blacks really hate whites. You can stick your head in the sand all you want, but you do so at your own risk.
It's not racism it's like intelligence if your more likely to be murdered by hanging around certain people, you probably won't hang around those people, black people dominate in every negative category, what is a person to do,
Chiang Kia Kek: In other words- basic common sense. There's a reason I don't go to black neighborhoods but I have no problem going through an Asian one. I've lived next to both. I've had interactions with both. Guess which one I kept my gun around for just in case.
"It's not race, it's class." "It's not race, it's philosophy." "It's not race, BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE IT." Sure seems like someone got his egalitarian ass handed to him.
almost like there are other more major factors that explain these things hmmmm.. why people hyper focus on the one we know has one of if not the smallest factor? i'd guess its "easy"
Jared kept bringing it back to race, even when it wasn't about race, so of course Sargon was going to point that out. That was especially evident when Jared was trying to make Britain's class issues into racial issues, as if all instances of tribalism are about race even if Jared says he's only familiar with the issue based on "the picture I saw." It's not about race because not everything is about race, Jared.
Are there any intelligent life on these threads you guys are embarrassing Mr Jared Taylor's dumbfounded theology of white people being the second most intelligent people
Great I love when white Identitrians take our lingo like red pill and kek fuck off ANTWORTEN are you ironic? Kek was literally an white nationalist god ,invented by 4chan awakened by repeating digits and redpill originated from the jewsih question. septics surely are the new sjws.
Sargon wants things to go back to a time when Jon Stewart (Jonathan Stuart Leibowitz) was relevant. Still I think Sargon is slowly realizing that people like Liebowitz were always leftist ass kissers, slowly boiling the water over time so the people won't jump out.
Sargon, go on a Somalian forum. I'm serious, check one out. All the different tribes of Somalia are constantly slinging shit at each other. Tribal identity is a huge thing, even when the genetics are extremely similar.
no they just write out their feelings on the ground with a stick then throw poop at each other when they disagree. like he said "constantly slinging "shit" at each other"
Surely that mitigates race as a factor then? If people can get all tribal over just about anything then segregating along racial lines is pissing in the wind.
gorypleasure we can clearly see this yes. Many genetically similar groups have formed tribes based on ideas and attacked each other. I see what Taylor is saying and it makes sense on a level based on how our societies work. The main problem is the government control of information and divide and conquer tactics taking advantage of and exploiting some genetic differences as well. If things were left alone people would eventually primarily lean toward the culture and tribe that is the most successful and therefore best for themselves as well. On a mass number though as well numbers and proportion definitely do matter
lukutiss1324 In fact, their genetics may be very dissimilar. All non-Africans are, at most, separated by 70k years from the last common ancestor. However, in Africa, two tribes living in the same town can be 200k years from the last common ancestor. They may superficially look similar, but genetically are more distant than whites are from aboriginal australians.
Jared Taylor graduated from Yale when it still meant something to graduate from Yale (that is, before the dumbing down). His brilliance shines through yet again here.
If you think Yale and its ilk are still elite schools in fact rather than merely reputation, then you're way out of date. They're now living solely on the accumulated capital of the past.
AiraCon - Brawl Stars I attend an actual Ivy League school and it would be foolish not to observe that a lot of students have their grades bolstered to get in, whilst Europeans, Middle Easterners and Asians are actively discriminated against.
Reverend Reko Source on that? I've never seen Black Muslims being treated worse among other Muslims but I have noticed there is a xenophobically nationalistic sentiment in middle eastern countries
Daily reminder that Sargon lives around Swindon - a vastly white majority area, so he has never needed to have any form of racial consciousness. It's working class people that live amongst diversity that get to enjoy the "illusion" and "social construct" that is differences between populations that spent their evolution in vastly different parts of the world. As for oppressing people by not associating with them. If you have ever walked past a homeless guy on a high street without servicing him or giving him money before, they YOU were violating his rights and are a bigot. If you don't want to let refugees into your house then you are also violating their human rights and are a bigot according to liberalism.
Around 20% of Swindon is not native British, of which 5% 'other white' and 15% non-white. This is almost exactly the same as the United Kingdom as a whole. So, you're wrong there. You have the right not to associate with people, and the law should recognize that. But, be consistent. Other people can also associate or not associate as they see fit. Your argument (if you are being sincere) is really against welfare and taxation and regulation. Yet, the leading lights on the alt right are all for those things. Richard Spencer, for example, wants so-called 'universal' health-care. In other words, he doesn't mind slavery, as long as it's all kept within the (white) family! So much for freedom!
@Wesly Stanton I'm not English, but American, so I can't speak to the demographics of the area that Sargon is from, but all you say rings very true, specifically pointing out the matter of white soyboys that have had really no meaningful immersement in diversity like we have had here in the States. It is what comes to mind immediately when I hear Sargon blather on about his racially diverse utopia. It is a childish fantasy. Send him to a 85% black school in inner city America for a few years......his attitude will either have him maimed for life, dead, or turned into the biggest "racist" that exists....with the last option being the correct response. How does this oaf still have almost a million subscribers? I find him so obtusely arrogant that he is hard to even listen to for seconds. I only put him on to see Taylor take him to the wood shed.
I sometimes even like to remind people that this man was doing this 30 years ago. He doesn't believe in the JQ but is held is such reverence that nobody even cares lol (me included).
"I can force you to bake a cake but you can't force me not to shit up your neighborhood" Carl Benjamin is an absolute clown. He has no businesses trying to accuse others of not having principles.
Sargon clearly knows that Mr Taylor is correct all along here. You can see him trying to ad-lib defences for his own super-weak position and failing over and over.
@Makin Shooties I agree. 80% of people who claim they're conservative or right wing, aren't. They're just classically liberal. Unless you realize the reality of race and its differences and acknowledge that women do better and are happier submitting to a man above them, you're not a traditional conservative.
Fantome001 Not weird at all because Black people have been allowed to self segregate, while White have not. We would simply like to have the same opportunity for freedom of association. Should this freedom come about, I guarantee that more people of all races will want to reach out to one another. In other words, when my needs are met, then I am more altruistic towards others.
White nationalist are the natural allies of other racially conscious people. We can be friend. We just have to accept the fact that most of our people are not able of cohabitate. Unless we accept a worldwide eugenic policy, there is no way we can cohabite in nations. we can share the planet and collaborate. Or we can all mix, live together, live under constant ethnic tension for the next millenium.
Fantome001 of course you do. Blacks self segregate just like anyone else. Rap culture, BET, etc. Every race feels more comfortable around their own. 👍🏻
Pr3ssPl4y ohhh mmy here we go again. No,all of the science community does not agree with this "idea" that Race is a social construct. This is just completely wrong,even though,yes ,most of academia does concur of that point,but then again most academics are left leaning so. So now you're the one conflating cultural differences with race and ethnicity. Race is real,wether you like it or not. As the example I've pointed out with dogs,it is absolutely real. Even in their studies scientists do separate different human races with different genertic markers as different races. I mean come on now. If race isn't real,then racial profiling isn't then. Racism is absolute baloney as well and can't possibly real right? This is just dumb man,I mean what dumb statements you just made. A black raised within a chinese society will never be "chinese" per say. Yes he maybe integrated culturally but that will never make him a chinese. I mean every chinese people he will meet will be able to tell first hand that he is not chinese,and for obvious reason. This is why aside from our liberal societies,this idea of culturally mixed societies is almost non existent. And when it is those different groups,(either culturally,ethnically or genetically or all three at once) Do not mix. A good example is how japanese of korean descent are considered in the japanese society(there are many other examples) You should look it up. Culture has nothing to do with race,but they are linked in some ways,just not the way you believe they are. Race is first and foremost an ensemble of genetic caracteristics that have distinct markers on the genotypical and phenotypical Areas. Otherwise scientists wouldn't be able to tell from your dna if you're caucasian from asian,from west africa or east africa,etc etc. What has culture have to do with all this anyway? If you can't see how it is stupid from scientists to claim there is no race, while using the term race to actually classify genetic data that helps differenciate people with different physical attributes is beyond me. I am black and even I agree with most of what taylor says,because he speaks the truth. There is nothing wrong he what he says,but it has become taboo because people think that believing in races and their intrinsic differences is somehow...racist.
once somebody says race is a social construct there's no point talking,as there clearly denying facts and nature,they will say some that some lefty hack said it so it as to be true they arnt just communists who talk rubbish,how can anybody say race is not real you can tell by looking at someone what race they are,and if race is a social construct why do these lefty keep telling me whites as a race are evil
Pr3ssPl4y good lord.first there is no general concesnsus about what race really is. Just so we're clear. Now the example of mixed race twins? You're acting as if I didn't know about those. That's funny.does being a race realist mean that we ignore the fact that there is the possiblity for random and(it must be pointed out)really really rare occurences of wierd cases like this one?giving the interbreeding different races have known for thousands of years now? Aside interbreeding though,there are clear differences and genetical markers that are clearly identified within us humans,and that differentiate us. Interbreeding make it more tricky,hence wierd stuff like these twins but they're nothing significant or even showing a "trend". I mean come on allready.Is this all you have as a gotcha? I am disapointed. Listen,scientist have three major generical groups they've identified:african,caucasian and east asian.(and many other "sub-groups") You're just arguing semantics really. I use the word race just like when scientist use it,when they're trying to differenciate different groups who have different physical and genetical attributes. Different breed of dogs can reproduce with one another,just like us,humans. We do separate them with the term race though,and no one bats an eye. Now for an another definition of race,for example,wich stipulates that it is living beings who can produce viable offspring,yes,we are,in that sense,all the same per say. But that is pretty much the only thing we have in common,that and the basic functionement of our human bodies. Otherwise they're clear differences between different races. On a phenotypical,genetical,and to widen it up,cultural side. It's undeniable,and ignoring that fact is preposterous. A good book for you:a troublesome inheritance has a very good perspective on the subject. The conclusions of the book have been debated,but the author has also provided pretty thorough answers. Race is not a social construct.Stop acting as if thise was a given fact and deny basic biology.
For 40 minutes Sargon managed to be reasonable. At the 43 minute mark he collapses and shows his not really Libertarian attitudes. Lets force people to abide by my beliefs, is his real attitude. Thanks for shouting the truth Jared.
@@jeffbridges5312 civilians of a country have a right to live where they can within that country. Sometimes that means racial diversity by proximity, and since those people of various races are living there together because that's the best place that they can live, they still have the right to move somewhere else. This diversity is not forced. It is a consequence of various factors rooted in negative liberty. The alternative is to limit the individual's freedoms of association and settlement, and that is tyranny.
@@rmccaw7 _civilians of a country have a right to live where they can within that country. Sometimes that means racial diversity by proximity, and since those people of various races are living there together because that's the best place that they can live, they still have the right to move somewhere else_ *Strawman* No one said people can't voluntarily live where they want to live. All you people try to do is strawman and gaslight because you have no message and you 100% morally and ethically wrong about everything Forced diversity happens every single day in the workplace, LEGALLY FORCING employers to hire less qualified minorities and women, there is forced diversity in our schools, in the government and in all of our institutions every single day and forced diversity our government has been practicing since the Obama administration, shipping in 3rd world savages from all the most dangerous countries in the world and placing them in quiet communities, 100% PURE EVIL, that's what the Left IS. Allowing illegals from all these most dangerous countries in the world over our border and ham stringing our own border enforcement to do anything about it is absolute SUICIDE and all of these Sanctuary cities are all FORCED DIVERSITY, all of government programs of building Section 8 housing in the middle of the best neighborhoods, pure evil and forced diversity
See the is-ought fallacy, otherwise known as the naturalistic fallacy. Besides, what Taylor is talking about isn't a universal. I wish all the white identitarians _would_ congregate together somewhere (same with the black, Asian, and every other type of identitarian) and leave the rest of us in peace.
Barnacle Bill which is what jared is arguing for here. If we let identiarians have their own place as well as let people who want mixed cutures have thier own place it would be better. Its just this stigma of whites wanting to be left alone to be with other whites thats getting in the way, because people automatically jump to white people thinking they are supirior and are going to plan mass genocide... which is idiotic, as we are no more prone to that than anyone else.
Skyfox i mean, maybe. I think african americans and native americans have just as much of a historic right to be in america as whites do. But it maybe as easy as, "here is your land, this co-mingling doesnt work. We respectively request a seperation and that you govern yourselves now. You resent us too much to let us do it. So its all up to you now." And an insentive program for everyone else to move back to their country of origin. So it wouldnt have to be that dramatic tbh.
I agree with Jared Taylor 100%. It's so unfair that just because he's proud of who he is, he gets crucified. I'm so proud of being white and thank God I was born white. Good for him. Keep going brother!
Very impressed with Jared Taylor. Very elequant, sincere and well read. I would have loved to see him and either Hitchens debate race. I think that could have been very enlightening for the race debate.
Once again as always in all your videos Mr. Taylor, your points and ability to present facts as well as illustrating your examples in your debates are supremely articulate when delivered, that it can only leave the Left scratching their heads. Go Mr. Taylor
Sargon is wrestling with himself, his views, his reputation, the entire time... poor guy is not taking well to getting red pilled. Sargon is wrong that Taylor's views will create "more prejudice." It is being forcibly coerced or socially browbeaten into unnatural sorts of interaction that creates animosity among people.
This conversation: Sargon claims something Taylor corrects his understanding Sargon claims that's not the point Taylor corrects his clarification which was the same as the original comment. Sargon makes unintelligent "gotcha" point and moves on
Since the Kristi Winters Debate, outside of the Sargonites, I think most know that debating / verbal reasoning isn't one of Sargon's strength. Debating is also a lot harder than most give it credit for. Sargon's produces entertaining material showcasing the absurd and has a likable personality, which is what gives reach. Also the people in Jared Taylor's camp can't afford to be dumb as those get weeded out extremely fast due to the current narrative. All diametrically opposed antithetical narratives and the people who hold them have gone through extreme levels of darwinism in the market place of ideas that their advocates tend to be more savvy (both in skill and knowledge) than advocates of ideas which are less challenged. This isn't to say that the less challenged ideas don't have intelligent thinkers, but the pressure for there to be only intelligent thinkers isn't there.
Batter than Jareds approach of simply ignoring Sargons rebuttals and quickly moving on to something else as if to pretend no rebuttal was made. He did it throughout the whole interview. The London riots, Shakah Zulu, Guns Germs and Steel. Just ignore the sensible rebuke and talk about something unrelated. Only a fool wouldn't recognise this conversational slight of hand. He's a hack not unlike the far left, or Christian apologists. He plays exactly the same debate game.
Years ago, I lived next to a very nice Black family, you could not ask for better neighbors. But they chose to specifically send their children to an all-black school. When I asked the father about his reasoning for this, he simply felt that they would feel more comfortable and have more advantages in such an environment. I'm beginning to appreciate his reasoning.
Jeffrey Grimm Well, as someone who has been to both almost all white and almost all black schools. Though it may have been more comfortable, the cultures are very different at each school.
thats the thing. it is not hateful at all to want to be separate from each other. its no different when best friends move in as room mates together and end up hating each others guts. sometimes it is just healthier to be good neighbors rather than to be room mates.
Economic vs racial distinctions are definitely a factor. No society is without it's problems, not even the Japanese who are largely homogenic. As a white person I can assure you that I have met more distasteful whites than blacks, overall. However, as a percentage of all the people I've ever met based on race, it is the opposite. Obviously, just my personal experience and opinions.
Razgriz Surget Principles are philosophical axioms not abstractions. Sargon noted how without principles Northern Europeans were savage and then JT replied with muh stonhenge meanwhile many other cultures all over the world had similar structures... low IQ sophistry at best but most likely a snake oil salesman to morons...
@@TheIbdeathskull Since when have the acquisition of principles (via abstract intellectual derivation) been a guarantor against an ensuing calamity? Tut.. low IQ sophistry. One could make it a principle, for example, that total freedom can be achieved with total equality, but I wouldn't put money on it not resulting in piles of corpses.
Lytton333 Equality of outcome is a political trend that is not backed up by data or any notable philosophers that stood the test of time. Equality of opportunity yes. But equality of outcome is a myth. The main lesson learned from Stalin is that one death is a tragedy and a million deaths are a statistic. With modern technology that one death gets broadcasted to the masses so all it takes is one monk burning or one person shot in the head to inspire change and revolution. The best way to get this change to occur is via trade. Bad economics and income inequality are usually the source of most political issues. This is why sun tzu valued trade over military might.
Its great to see Jared's ideas being tested. All too often I only see the Alt-Right talking to themselves. This kind of engagement will help to Red-Pill the Normies. Fair play to Sargon for doing this debate, but its pretty clear why the left will only shout down intellects like Jared on the Alt-Right. They know they'll lose.
Thing is, very few people are willing to debate him because they "don't want to give him a platform". The end result is most of the people that do debate him are idiots who he ends up steamrolling, leaving his ideas pretty much completely unchallenged.
I was making a joke. The first line makes you think I'm talking about Jared Taylor, then the second reveals I was talking about Sargon. Comedy! Jokes are always funnier when you have to explain them! 😂
TheVirgin Mary420 one distinction would be that la raza, or the Chicano movement, has to do with Mexican-Americans and they're being in touch with their meso-American roots/culture. Notice that America has nothing to do with Mexico. It was founded by whites of european ancestry. There is no place for hyphenated Americans in America. Drop the prefix of African, Mexican, Asian, Muslim. Etc. and get on board with American. Or, go home.
Sargon, maybe you should interview Mr Taylor again in 2022? Knowing a million english girls have been raped & groomed & London not being an English city anymore.
I am proud to say I'm a member of the Alt Right and that I will do what it takes to preserve Western Culture / White American Culture. Jared Taylor is a legend.
heathen27 That's such great news to hear. I support all the Alt Right world wide. America is just in a bit of a situation at the moment. Where are you located friend?
England. Just England. The UK have to split up after we drive the Muslims out one way or another. We English have irreconcilable views to the Scots and Northern Irish, but the Welsh can stay.
11:10 Sargon... do you really think that when Thomas Jefferson put his pen to paper and wrote the word 'man,' that he was talking about the black people he owned and the "red men" he waged war against in his time as President?
Domenico Grimaldi This was the moment Sargon gave up on the battle of ideas. After this he changed his strategy with every other Alt Right figure, now using typical disingenuous SJW strategies. His next debate with Richard Spencer was a shit show. He just patronised & mocked Spencer, wasted time. Then he took on Andrew Anglin with an obvious ulterior motive, in bad faith, it was embarrassing. Not that Anglin or even Spencer are on Taylor's level but Sargon won't be making this mistake again in a hurry. He got fckn decimated. Sargon needs to hold on to his safe Social Democratic multicult position, maintain his social status, livelihood. The truth? He can't handle the truth. He's decided to take up Krauts crusade of attacking the Alt Right by any means necessary.
It’s sept 2023 and I’m willing to bet now Carl Benjamin would agree muchhhh more with Jared. Oh what the last few years have shown us with the effects of multiculturalism in the West.
Sargon is an example of a fairly intelligent person who works tirelessly to convince himself what he's seeing isn't there. It's just too hard for so many people to cast off the politically correct orthodoxy.
"Oh I know lots about Northern Europeans 2,000 years ago" >Can only point to Aristotle (a single man who was not primarily any sort of historiographer) talking about inhabitants of the Balkans/Eurasian Steppe What a disingenuous piece of shit. He knows he can't do anything to refute the truth of what Taylor is saying, so all he can do is attempt to nitpick the validity of interpretations of any specific examples that are brought up and then cling to his disagreement, refusing to cede any ground as if that will offer the illusion that he is saying something that Taylor cannot actually refute, when it is really just a case of polite acquiescence for the sake of not getting bogged down on petty details that would require the tripling of the conversation's length to debunk. For being such an ancient-history loving Romaboo Carl is also shown to be much less historically literate than Taylor as well, which is rather embarrassing.
"White Identity" by Jared Taylor is required reading for every white person. Even if you think you don't agree, just read it and see if you still disagree.
Jared Taylor has been essential in my own racial awareness awakening. He is one of the few speaking that the Earth is round when it is heresy to think it other than flat.
*you don't win a debate against Jared Taylor. You just try to limit the damage.
Texocracy this wasn't a debate, it was a discussion
Granted... It was not a formal debate, but this discussion was chocked full of interesting little conflicts.
The quote above about "limiting damage" is really just a meme (tho true) and pops up on many Jared videos.
Huway of the huworld
Poison Control a discussion is basically a debate
Texocracy: I wish Jared Taylor taught how to effectively debate. I would first in line.
Why are all the whites leaving London Sargon? Its race.
Plenty of white Poles and Italians in London. Until the Brexit vote the hwite population was probably increasing because of EU migration.
gorypleasure by white be means white British.
native British are a minority in London today. They have been replaced by replacement migration ethnic cleansing pushed by UN. London is no longer a British city. Whilst the globalists and left celebrates this replacement of whole european nations.
caz earle You are aware that Britain is whiter than the US? About 82% of Britons are white.
I live in London and I see daily how it changes. I am planning to move to a a less "diverse" area. So what is your point - are you saying that you are happy about replacement migration and celebrate that London, England Capital City is now longer British let alone English. Will you be happy when the native British are all minorities in their homelands?
Every one wants a "gotcha racist!" Moment against Jarod.
Everyone fails.
Isn't it Jared? Not Jarod. And it's quite obvious when he's being racist. You don't need to mention the N word for it to be so obvious. He supports segregation and sees non-whites as inferior people. He's admitted as much.
"WHAT’S WRONG WITH WHITES WANTING TO REMAIN A MAJORITY IN THE UNITED STATES?” - Jared Taylor
@@NA-kr5uq Should Mexico be inhabited by primarily Mexicans? Surely the Chinese should remain the majority in their own land? Before you throw out the myth of the "melting pot" I invite you to read the Naturalization act of 1790 and learn about what the founding fathers ACTUALLY had in mind for the future of the nation.
@@schizoposting no.
@@NA-kr5uq remain ignorant
Sargon: question
Taylor: response
Sargon: yeah I agree but I don't want to agree that Race is a factor
Repeat for the full video
TheEfficentPiggie yeah, that’s exactly what I saw.
Sargon would argue with Jared about the existence of racial differences in some area, Jared would further clarify his point, then Sargon would immediately switch to an “ought” and ignore the fact that Jared proved his point and that Sargon was wrong about the existence of the difference.
TheEfficentPiggie
Exactly right. I gave up halfway through for that reason. The impasse is not too surprising: Sargon lives in the UK town of Swindon, which, according to Wiki, is 83% white. 7% Asian and only 1.4% black. He appears to have got his ideas about race in the US from reading the Guardian and watching the BBC. The whole racial issue is, for him, purely theoretical.
Saved me an hour...I'll just go watch AmRen
wedontputout IKR
Jared Taylor is a both a scholar and a gentleman.
He's a delight to listen to when you turn your brain off 👍
@@0x20pirate He's right about almost everything. I understand youre mad, but he's still right,haha.
@@0x20pirate cope
I disagree with Sargon.
I'm European. I'm proud to be European. European civilization is the most advanced & by far the most culturally rich civilization in history.
Yes but you need religion really bad, your atheism is destroying you and could lead to the rise of the Antichrist
you mispelled the middle name of the person who your profile name is based on
Don't ever say this to anyone Chinese - they'll have a fit.
but its not pure white.
The fact that western Europeans, particularly the Germanic people that have dominated recent world history, were behind the rest of the world from the Neolithic period until the middle of the second millennium is proof that they were not particularly creative. They did however benefit from considerable geographic fortune that only began to manifest itself quite recently.
Mohammed Ali had the same views towards blacks and everybody thinks he was a saint.
What did Ali say exactly?
Muhammad Ali:
"Listen. Blue birds fly with blue birds, red birds fly with red birds [...] pigeons wanna be with pigeons [...] I want my child to look like me, any intelligent person wants his child to look like him. I’m sad because I wanna blend out my race and lose my beautiful identity? Chinese love Chinese [...] Pakistanis love their culturue, Jewish people love their culture [...] you can take no Chinese man and give him a Puerto Rico woman [...] it’s nature to want to be with your own. I wanna be with my own. "
TheSharpeful
Thank you for answering my question.
Ali was a racial separatist.
@@areez22 Yeah...he was smart.
I'm not white but this guy has some good points. I know plenty of minorities who think the same things he is saying, just in favor of thier own particular race.
ALL "minorities" advocate for themselves ESPECIALLY when they can force gains from whites through direct or indirect accusations of "racism". The fact is: if whites want to live among themselves they should be allowed to. Just as blacks and hispanics should. Why should ANYONE be opposed to this? I'd feel FAR safer and more comfortable living in an all white area. If I "miss out" on the "wonders" of diversity, then that's my loss, isn't it? Or is it that blacks and hispanics fear not having whites to do their heavy lifting?
Thats true, nobody bats and eye if a black person says similar things to what he says. A black mother can tell their children that she wants black grand children, same for asian. That's normal. But it's unacceptable for a white person to say that.
Bingo! It is natural and healthy
True but in a place like the United States where there are millions and millions of different nationalities, ethnicities most of which who speak different languages, has different religions, cultures etc it's impossible for most of these groups to cooperate or have some kind of meaningful agreement especially when it comes to resources. The only groups in my opinion I believe can coexist peacefully in the United States are probably the Asian Americans, Pacific Islander Americans, and Native Americans.
I’m half white and prefer white because that’s where the progress is at the moment. I’m a humanist as in I want what’s best for humanity as a whole. Maybe one day blacks and others can reach a higher scientific attainment and contribution to humanity but right now we need the Huwhites(as Taylor says it lol) to move progress forward. I think it’s genetic because Whites needed to cooperate and think their way out of harsh winters. They bred for cooperation and intelligence. Blacks and every other race can do the same but it will take a long time. Whites were once known as the barbarians to the sophisticated romans so there’s proof it can happen but it will take at least 1000yrs 😕
Remember when Zimbabwe kicked out all of the white farmers and a famine and mass starvation happened? Fucking incredible.
No true communism / no true islam / no true black supremacists / no true non-white racist / no true british cuisine / no true white culture / no true zionists / no true son of god and so on
#freerhodesia
Also, when the white colonials left African countries, the blacks turned on each other on racist grounds, as in, they drew the line between how much darker skin tone they had. Read en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wretched_of_the_Earth
Autism is Uncontrollable Race had nothing to do with that. -Sargon of Mossad
Bullshit, being colonized by a superior group is how civilization spreads. Ask the Barbarians in England, France and Germany about that Roman colonization.
Whoa an interview between Jared and someone who disagrees with him where they actually let Jared speak and don't try to beat him down with inane rambling.
Neobushranger I recently was turned away from Sargon due to his Nazis are bad videos but I give him credit here. I like here how he genuinely gives someone like Jared Taylor a chance to speak and discuss ideas. Sargon gets credit, you're not alone imo.
It is indeed, unfortunately, very refreshing and helpful for someone like me that can shift sides easily when thorough arguments are presented without shouting being involved.
@@jcotrone exactly
Watch this then. Jared Taylor was a guest on The Young Turks show, and he was shouted down and ridiculed by the host, Cenk Uygur, and Jared Taylor hung up on him, quite rightly. ua-cam.com/video/oxhsSLos8hk/v-deo.html
The Dr. Race Hustler Richy vs Taylor debate for example. Dr. Richy tried to control the conversation by overtalking Taylor as he always does, whenever someone is far more intelligent than himself.
It's amazing how desperate Sargon clings to non-racial explanations of obviously racial things, how he is deluded about the UK.
He has a mental block about the issue of race. He has been programmed to believe that "racist" is the worst possible label and he cannot break free of this. He is a multiculturalist at heart and refuses to accept that white people can have racial identity- he thinks too highly of the notion of extreme individualism because of his rather childish understanding of history. He lives in a bubble of idealism and has never experienced the realities of race.
Of course the fact that he (like myself) is racially mixed, makes the idea of racial identity a terrifying prospect because there's the fear of being left out; the fear of society changing and not being welcome. After considerable thought I came to the conclusion that it's oppressive to deny any racial group the freedom to unite or segregate as they wish, I would like to be part of a group, even though I'll never 100% fit in. That's my cross to bear and not the fault of any group.
Any specific example?
Fit right in with whom, Leonard?
When we're discussing ethnic preferences of groups, that answer is remarkably obscure.
Sargon, the 2011 riots were absolutely racial.
Are you joking? I just scrolled through at least 100 different photos of the collection of those riots, most of the dudes taking part were white chavs.
@@chrisgardbard Well when I looked they were Black so is saying look at the photos a great statistical response? And considering only 45% of London was White British back in 2011 what do you think they majority of rioters were... statically?
And the 2020 ones
@America Resurrection EXACTLY!
2019 riots not racial 😂, Jk Jared is great
Doesn't sargon live in a 95% white area?
jordiejonny At least Persians are Caucasian
A smarty-pants like you could surely make your homeland a better place. Shame you would choose to selfishly leech off the white man instead of improving the land of your ancestors.
A. There was no America until whites founded it. B. I was born in Europe and I live in Europe, and I'm looking forward to help throw you trespassers out.
Ok so how exactly am I leeching off of America? "you are not really hurting my feelings" That's exactly what someone with hurt feelings would say. "my fellow European " How pathetic. I know being Persian must be embarrassing but pretending to be something you're not is just sad.
singularity_is_unstoppable a. Just remember you are allowed here from our goodwill, it's not nice to insult us
Jared Taylor is just right. You can't argue against his very rational way of seeing the world. The thinkery has been out-thinked.
Out-THUNK*
Javier Armando Toloza figuring out how much race plays a part in culture is hard. Then again are we talking about race or ethnicity?
From what I've heard North and South Koreans do see each other as the same people, just with rogue governments, it's also important to remember that both countries are ethnocentric to varying degrees, with South korea being less tribalistic due to greater wealth, urbanization and less communist propaganda being pumped into their heads, though would easily be considered far right on Identitarian issues. Anyways, culture obviously isn't completely genetically determined. But if the North were to become more capitalist, it certainly wouldn't resemble Europe or any western country in terms of how the people behave and think of themselves. The north and south also used to be the same kingdom until the 1950's, so I imagine you'd see many unifying elements of Korean culture become more visible too.
The Non Believer Why did you delete all your videos?
Well the question, at least in my eyes, is between the alternative right; do they want a *white ethnostate,* or do they want traditionally or majority white countries to *become white ethnostates?* The former is debatable; the latter is unacceptable.
"You don't win debates against Jared Taylor, you simply try to limit the damage"
seraphx26 Didn’t Way of the World comment that?
I have never seen anyone even come close to defeating JT.
@@meab12 same. He's unbeatable
Not really..
@@user-il5hy5tr5z its undeniable jared taylor has a special talent on conveying his ideas and his premise is totally sound and even sensible to want his kind to stay homogeneous. Globalists like you trying to pollute the gene pool of beautiful people from European countries are divisive malignant infection. We are growing more and more aware of this paradigm.
Jared Taylor is my favorite Japanese person.
@Haseeb 2 Judging that name,I can understand why you ask that question.
@Haseeb 2 He's not really Japanese of course - but Jared Taylor was raised as a white minority in Japan. He speaks fluent Japanese as well as French. He wrote an excellent essay about Japan entitled "In Praise of Homogeneity" - definitely worth googling and reading.
@Haseeb 2 he was born in Japan.
Joanna Lumbley is a nice looking Indian woman too.
@haseeb2167Japan is not a collectivist nation. It’s a strictly culturally and ethnically homogeneous country with very tight social norms. These are not the same things.
Jared Taylor is right. I'm a Brit living in the North of England, most people up here would agree with Mr Taylor, the average working Brit does not agree with the multi racial or multicultural society forced on the UK.
Ste H Too bad the Jew in your government couldn't care less about what working British men thinks. And, btw, Mohammad is a working British man, too. Checkmate.
Zyklon-Brandon People of different races can most definitely share the same culture. I think you're lost.
@Bustaperizm Ok assclown, show me the existence of a trend where societies with two (or more) races living in close proximity to each other have the exact same culture. Hint: you can't
@Genghis Khan I'm pretty damn sure the non-native Hawaiians (Whites and Asians primarily) in Hawaii don't follow the culture of the actual natives.
Also. When two or more races intermingle and share the same culture. We tend to give them a new name/title. Hispanic is an example.
God bless Jared Taylor!
We need more European advocates like him!
Tell that to White Nationalists such as RamZPaul, John Derbyshire, Charles Murray, Andrew Anglin, Lucas King, Richard Spencer, Black Pigeon Speaks, John Friend, Mike Cernovich, Matt Forney, Charles Johnson and Matt Forney who date, marry and procreate with Asian women.
@Haseeb 2 do you understand the word ‘interracial’ at all?
@@gratiaxantos9309 they are not of the ilk.
Sargon, I'm from Birmingham, and I can tell you - every single person I know (me included) has moved further out or left here completely, no exceptions...
Not one has moved closer to the 'diverse' areas of town, they are escaping it and its completely natural, there's NO white parents here saying 'I'm moving further into city to put my kids into a school with Africans and Pakistanis'.... It's the exact opposite.
And whether they admitted it or not (overwhelmingly they admitted it) it was the changing demographics of the city that moved them to the 'whiter' areas.
Whites that haven't experienced mass immigration into an area in close proximity to them, really do not care about race, purely because it doesn't affect them.
Why try and battle with this, when it flies in the face of human nature - let people live in harmony with their own people.
People don't want this, if they did, as I mentioned - white parents would be flocking into the inner city to let their children go to school with all the ethnics.
You are UNDERESTIMATING race by far, you're living in fantasy land my friend, maybe you should move into an Pakistani area as an experiment.... See what 'enlightenment' you can find there..... Good luck.
Great post Ian! You are 100 percent bang on the money!
I completely agree with you!
I lived in west Wales for a time and met many people from around the Birmingham area and all said they moved to get away from muslims and blacks
Well written ma man, I live in a lovely white area of south Staffordshire yet work in Smethwick and when I drive through “their area” I feel like I should have my passport stamped. These areas will never again be occupied by WASPS as long as these foreign masses occupy these areas. No one who’s white wants a brown neighbour just a basic fact of life.
Mate I also live in Birmingham and my entire road is pakistani. Even I’m not fully white that’s how bad it is lmao
Man, this aged awfully well.
2024 here, you have no idea how much better it’s aged now….
12 seconds in and I hear the first "hwite".
Corvo@AZ Huwhite > white
Corvo@AZ chill out and try some cool hwip.
Hwat, bobby?
Don't you be dissing Bob Ross.
You need to take a shot each time you hear one.
Jared is absolutely correct about how whites already 'segregate' themselves when they have the means. If you lived in my area, you'd easily see this. Im 50 miles from a major city with a horrendous commute. I know many upper middle class and above people who work in the city every day, and were not born in this area. Why are they here? To be away from the city, to be in a place they feel comfortable and they pay for it with their time and money. To believe that the city's problems dont have a racial component is silly.
Same
You think that has ever not been the case? Cities have always been diverse places compared to the country. Take a look at ancient Rome.
Glywysing what happened to ancient Rome?
Glywysing I believe it always has been the case, though in the US inner cities that have been allowed to become war zones, it's particularly relevant.
To make a connection between the fall of ancient Rome and the fact that it was a diverse place shows just how simplistic views like this are. How can one learn from history, as people like you are constantly telling us to do, when you have such a childlike interpretation of it?
As soon as Sargon admitted that men are tribal beings, he completely lost this debate. He really is no classical individualist liberal, but a "displaced leftie".
Vodk Tonyq You *do* realize that someone who claims a particular political affiliation *doesn't* have to embrace every single plank in the platform.
That's a leftist thing with their "purity tests" & ensuing purges.
@Universal Kombat If you think Hillary is liberal mate you've completely proven his point
Fear the unseen tribe.
@@GoldieTamamo They like silly little hats.
@@LordFinkenstein And cosplay.
huwaiteness intensified
Jared Taylor is an intellectual powerhouse
if i was gay, i'd be gay with Jared
Room temperature iq
Here in Ireland our government are dropping males from all over the world in large numbers;from different countries and backgrounds into communities and it hasn't gone down well with the public at all,I think Jared is one hundred percent right that you can't force integration,it happens naturally or it doesn't. You can feel the tension in the air because thousands of immigrants have been dropped into communities and the Irish public have been told to just deal with it and that's a fast way to trouble starting
Hello prophet.
@dennisstall6282 once you know;you know
Right, b/c men have the worst problems in the world. Get real.
Your government, like all western governments, have been taken over by Globalists. They have all of the money and all of the blackmail. Policians are owned not elected these days.
The main difference between the two is life experience. Sargon believes that universally shared values can overcome race over time, and Jared knows that this simply doesn't happen in real life. That's why Jareds own position evolved from basic racial egalitarianism to his current status
or he is just racist. dyou not think about that? i dont care what your life experiences are if you see black people as having a lower mental capacity youre a scumbag
@@shadysheep1984 I guess SCIENCE is racist.
@@gdal3 science isnt racist. how you interpret science can be racist
@@shadysheep1984 IQ and race is a scientific fact. It's the truthophobes that can't deal with it.
No such thing as universally shared values.
There is a clear hierarchy in Islam, Sargon, Arabs being top of the pile, blacks being at the bottom.
Yet islamic history tells us otherwise....anyone could go as high as a Grand Viseir...simply convert....black eunuchs were treated badly...that is true.....but eventually, arabs became second to Turks....hence turkey dumped arabic script and language for latin....many famouse pirates were greek or caucasian janissaries or even captured frankish galley slaves who converted....Barbarossa(red beard,NOT Frederick.) was one.
In Islam, one's level of God-consciousness (piety) is the standard of nobility, not race or nationality:
"O mankind, We have created you from a male and a female and have made you into nations and tribes for you to know one another. Truly, the noblest of you with God is the most pious. God is All-Knowing, All-Aware." Quran, 49:13.
"O people! Your God is one and your forefather (Adam) is one. An Arab is not better than a non-Arab and a non-Arab is not better than an Arab, and a white person is not better than a black person and a black person is not better than a white person, except in piety." Saying of the Prophet Muhammad (s).
A lot of churches are the same in my experience. Our church (when I was a kid) was 98% white. We would have meet ups with other churches in the summer and there was definitely a racial segregation going on through choice and the church culture tended to reflect that. Even though the Bible teaches to love everyone, people just naturally gravitated towards different congregations.
I don't believe it's "natural" to gravitate towards ethno-centrism, just as it's not "natural" to gravitate towards selfishness or greed. There are higher, more universal values; it is these that religion calls mankind to. Ethno-centrism is a deficiency of faith.
Chino Gambino.
- Religion is essentially this: 1) the affirmation of the priority of God (that God - the Absolute - is the origin of all being and meaning, and hence the origin of all goodness), and 2) a way to live in harmony with the Being of God.
- Religion therefore begins with metaphysics - which is timeless and universal - and not with particular forms in time and space. Yes, the timeless truth is manifested in time and space (as a historical tradition), but it is not reducible to time and space.
- Going back to the quotes of the Quran and Prophet Muhammad (s) I gave earlier, the principle being established is that it is not by membership to some tribe, nation, or race that is the source of one’s dignity or nobility, but rather the source is one’s level of consciousness of the Absolute (taqwa; i.e., piety).
- Suppose what you said is in fact true: some Arabs do regard themselves as superior to non-Arabs. From this you conclude that: Islam doesn’t eliminate racism; thereby, you imply that Islam doesn’t really support justice and oppose racism.
- Your logic is equivalent to this: some people still commit crimes in society; therefore, the law doesn’t eliminate crime; therefore, the law doesn’t really support justice and oppose crime.
- The mistake you make is not to begin from first principles, you therefore seem to fail to realise that the law (and Islam) do advocate the truth and a way to live in harmony with the truth. If some people violate the truth, it is not a damnation upon the truth, but shows the shortcoming of those people.
5 facts about Jared Taylor
1. Well spoken
2. Logical
3.Reasonable
4. I love him
5. Jared Taylor!
Preach it man, makes me smile to see the positive responses here in the comments.
Fun fact: Jared Taylor is a fact about himself.
Fun fact 2: the fact that he is a fact about himself is, itself, also a fact.
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>>>/g/
Sargon sounds like a race-denying marxist at times.
Still, I applaud him for having a civil and level headed debate with Jared Taylor.
Oh hasn't it got worse?
That’s what liberalism is. Everything beyond that initial premise is mere factionalism.
What Taylor is talking about applies to Australia also, look at Sydney, all the different racial/cultural groups are in the process of naturally segregating in the suburbs. And in any of the suburbs that start to have too much ‘diversity’ the whites pack up and leave.
Leading cause of death for young men is suicide too.
I truly think Jared Taylor will go down in history as a hero for the white race.
Jared Cox Then you're an idiot. People who promote racism of any stripe, whether it be Jared Taylor or Gazi Kodo, are destroyers and dividers. Fuck 'em.
Joshua Edwards Tossing the word "racism" around is quickly losing its force. The blunt fact is that blacks really hate whites. You can stick your head in the sand all you want, but you do so at your own risk.
It's not racism it's like intelligence if your more likely to be murdered by hanging around certain people, you probably won't hang around those people, black people dominate in every negative category, what is a person to do,
Chiang Kia Kek: In other words- basic common sense. There's a reason I don't go to black neighborhoods but I have no problem going through an Asian one. I've lived next to both. I've had interactions with both. Guess which one I kept my gun around for just in case.
Yes and the media covers it up
"It's not race, it's class."
"It's not race, it's philosophy."
"It's not race, BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE IT."
Sure seems like someone got his egalitarian ass handed to him.
So the very idea of nuance is just thrown out the window? Good to know!
It's not race because that would be racist so it's anything but race...just please don't think I'm racist!
almost like there are other more major factors that explain these things hmmmm.. why people hyper focus on the one we know has one of if not the smallest factor? i'd guess its "easy"
Jared kept bringing it back to race, even when it wasn't about race, so of course Sargon was going to point that out. That was especially evident when Jared was trying to make Britain's class issues into racial issues, as if all instances of tribalism are about race even if Jared says he's only familiar with the issue based on "the picture I saw."
It's not about race because not everything is about race, Jared.
It was the most gentle toddler spanking I've ever witnessed. Still effective.
Thank you for having the great Jared Taylor as your guest! SUBSCRIBED!
Jim Jones Watching this June 5, 2018 and U.S. Supreme Court has just ruled in favour of the Christian baker! You lose again Sargon.
Are there any intelligent life on these threads you guys are embarrassing Mr Jared Taylor's dumbfounded theology of white people being the second most intelligent people
@@TheBardapple ??? Clarify.
It would be interesting to see these pair have a discussion again.
Definitely there needs to be another conversation between Jared Taylor and Sargon of Akkad
Taylor had this argument by a longshot. This redpill is too much for Sargon at this time.
Great I love when white Identitrians take our lingo like red pill and kek fuck off
ANTWORTEN
are you ironic? Kek was literally an white nationalist god ,invented by 4chan awakened by repeating digits and redpill originated from the jewsih question. septics surely are the new sjws.
Sargon wants things to go back to a time when Jon Stewart (Jonathan Stuart Leibowitz) was relevant. Still I think Sargon is slowly realizing that people like Liebowitz were always leftist ass kissers, slowly boiling the water over time so the people won't jump out.
Daily reminder that alt-cucks will vote these types of
non-conversational comments to the top in an attempt to slide viewer's
opinion 👌👌
Jared Taylor was in the right here
Taylor won this conversation.
I totally agree with Jared. Every white person should be a white advocate. We have to take up for our people. Nobody else will do it for us.
Sargon, go on a Somalian forum. I'm serious, check one out. All the different tribes of Somalia are constantly slinging shit at each other. Tribal identity is a huge thing, even when the genetics are extremely similar.
no they just write out their feelings on the ground with a stick then throw poop at each other when they disagree.
like he said "constantly slinging "shit" at each other"
Wait, Africans have internet forums? Or are you talking about forums IRL?
Surely that mitigates race as a factor then? If people can get all tribal over just about anything then segregating along racial lines is pissing in the wind.
gorypleasure we can clearly see this yes. Many genetically similar groups have formed tribes based on ideas and attacked each other. I see what Taylor is saying and it makes sense on a level based on how our societies work. The main problem is the government control of information and divide and conquer tactics taking advantage of and exploiting some genetic differences as well. If things were left alone people would eventually primarily lean toward the culture and tribe that is the most successful and therefore best for themselves as well. On a mass number though as well numbers and proportion definitely do matter
lukutiss1324 In fact, their genetics may be very dissimilar. All non-Africans are, at most, separated by 70k years from the last common ancestor. However, in Africa, two tribes living in the same town can be 200k years from the last common ancestor. They may superficially look similar, but genetically are more distant than whites are from aboriginal australians.
Jared Taylor graduated from Yale when it still meant something to graduate from Yale (that is, before the dumbing down). His brilliance shines through yet again here.
Of course not. Why would I ever go to a dumbed down pig pen like Yale? It's instead for low IQ affirmative action recipients.
How can you deny that Yale is anything more than a pig pen for low IQ affirmative action recipients?
AiraCon is either uninformed or aspires to be one of those recipients.
If you think Yale and its ilk are still elite schools in fact rather than merely reputation, then you're way out of date. They're now living solely on the accumulated capital of the past.
AiraCon - Brawl Stars
I attend an actual Ivy League school and it would be foolish not to observe that a lot of students have their grades bolstered to get in, whilst Europeans, Middle Easterners and Asians are actively discriminated against.
I liked how each gave the other time to talk and fully explain a talking point
Because they are both polite and intelligent
“We wear our uniform on our face every single day”. Well said!
Sargon’s position is compassionate - which I like - but naive.
Worldwide, for Muslims generally, they do have a hierarchy and it is racial, the Arab rules within Islam.
Not to mention that Arab Muslims have a very negative attitude towards black Muslims.
Reverend Reko Source on that? I've never seen Black Muslims being treated worse among other Muslims but I have noticed there is a xenophobically nationalistic sentiment in middle eastern countries
@@cyberninjazero5659lmao 😂are you serious?? 😂Arab slave trade? Look up the racism blacks face in the Arab world Islamic world 😂😂😂
Daily reminder that Sargon lives around Swindon - a vastly white majority area, so he has never needed to have any form of racial consciousness. It's working class people that live amongst diversity that get to enjoy the "illusion" and "social construct" that is differences between populations that spent their evolution in vastly different parts of the world.
As for oppressing people by not associating with them. If you have ever walked past a homeless guy on a high street without servicing him or giving him money before, they YOU were violating his rights and are a bigot. If you don't want to let refugees into your house then you are also violating their human rights and are a bigot according to liberalism.
Around 20% of Swindon is not native British, of which 5% 'other white' and 15% non-white. This is almost exactly the same as the United Kingdom as a whole. So, you're wrong there.
You have the right not to associate with people, and the law should recognize that. But, be consistent. Other people can also associate or not associate as they see fit.
Your argument (if you are being sincere) is really against welfare and taxation and regulation. Yet, the leading lights on the alt right are all for those things. Richard Spencer, for example, wants so-called 'universal' health-care. In other words, he doesn't mind slavery, as long as it's all kept within the (white) family! So much for freedom!
Does homelessness fall on the intersectionality scale? Genuine question.
@Wesly Stanton I'm not English, but American, so I can't speak to the demographics of the area that Sargon is from, but all you say rings very true, specifically pointing out the matter of white soyboys that have had really no meaningful immersement in diversity like we have had here in the States. It is what comes to mind immediately when I hear Sargon blather on about his racially diverse utopia. It is a childish fantasy. Send him to a 85% black school in inner city America for a few years......his attitude will either have him maimed for life, dead, or turned into the biggest "racist" that exists....with the last option being the correct response.
How does this oaf still have almost a million subscribers? I find him so obtusely arrogant that he is hard to even listen to for seconds. I only put him on to see Taylor take him to the wood shed.
Bored Anon Shitposter If Sargon is so against believing that Europeans don’t or shouldn’t have any racial conciseness then he should move to Detroit.
A masterclass from Jared Taylor..
6 years later and he’s been shown correct on so many points.
Jared is the one true rational and inspirational leader of the AltRight.
Robert Patch fuck em.
I sometimes even like to remind people that this man was doing this 30 years ago. He doesn't believe in the JQ but is held is such reverence that nobody even cares lol (me included).
Jared Taylor is 100% correct.........100%.
97%
ItsameAlex what's the 3%?
100%. Wake up white people. Taylor is making it clear that you are on the extinction list and much of it is suicide.
@ItsameAlex seconded, what's the 3% or are you trolling?
I want this guy back to YT
AmRen Videos Fan
Taylor was certainly proved right on South Africa.
Huge jared Taylor fan right here!!!!
I just love the way he speaks and how he says "huwite" 🤣
B P That's not true.
Haha, same here.
He was raised in Japan and learned English from british/American radio
The huwhite races must unite.
That's his way of tricking young hot ladies into supporting him : D
"I can force you to bake a cake but you can't force me not to shit up your neighborhood" Carl Benjamin is an absolute clown. He has no businesses trying to accuse others of not having principles.
Sargon is oversimplifying the 2011 London riots. Class was a factor, but so was race.
Sargon isn't oversimplifying, he is straight up lying. The 2011 UK riots were very much race riots.
Sargon clearly knows that Mr Taylor is correct all along here. You can see him trying to ad-lib defences for his own super-weak position and failing over and over.
Jared looked into Sargon's youthful eyes and said to himself, that's a 26 year old boy right there.
I dont really know how old he is, but he looks young for the age he states himself. I'm imagining him without the beard
Isn't Sargon like half a decade from 50?
Cory he looks like a proper soyboy but at least he’s somewhat right wing
Sargon is west indian or something no?
@Makin Shooties I agree. 80% of people who claim they're conservative or right wing, aren't. They're just classically liberal. Unless you realize the reality of race and its differences and acknowledge that women do better and are happier submitting to a man above them, you're not a traditional conservative.
Weird. I'm black and I agree with most of what he says.
Fantome001
Not weird at all because Black people have been allowed to self segregate, while White have not. We would simply like to have the same opportunity for freedom of association. Should this freedom come about, I guarantee that more people of all races will want to reach out to one another. In other words, when my needs are met, then I am more altruistic towards others.
White nationalist are the natural allies of other racially conscious people. We can be friend. We just have to accept the fact that most of our people are not able of cohabitate.
Unless we accept a worldwide eugenic policy, there is no way we can cohabite in nations. we can share the planet and collaborate.
Or we can all mix, live together, live under constant ethnic tension for the next millenium.
Fantome001 of course you do. Blacks self segregate just like anyone else. Rap culture, BET, etc. Every race feels more comfortable around their own. 👍🏻
Fantome001 probably you're just very smart then, not weird really.
Yeah man check out a Malcolm x speech.. really good
The best Taylor interview I've seen...well done to both...
Mr. Taylor is the clear winner. He eviscerated Sargon on every point.
It's hard coming from that era and not at least trying to defend the race issue. Jared was obviously right but I do empathise with Sargon here.
Jared Taylor is an intellectual giant, he towers over, owns and destroys Sargon from start to finish.
Erb Stank Yes I agrea, Sargon refuses to see the obvious, I live in Bradford, Sargon should trade places for a week and then he would understand.
Shut up idiot. That that was a totally empty comment.
Sargon got HUWHITED.
Sargons a pussy and fake intellectual whose only talent is talking about nothing for an endless amount of time.
i don't know how anyone fair can really listen to Jared and disagree
Pr3ssPl4y I think you're the one who should instead of insulting people.
Tell us how taylor isn't right about what he says?
this is why i did not reply because you dont start a coversation by being rude to some one,then afterwards ask for there opinion
Pr3ssPl4y ohhh mmy here we go again.
No,all of the science community does not agree with this "idea" that
Race is a social construct.
This is just completely wrong,even though,yes ,most of academia does concur of that point,but then again most academics are left leaning so.
So now you're the one conflating cultural differences with race and ethnicity.
Race is real,wether you like it or not.
As the example I've pointed out with dogs,it is absolutely real.
Even in their studies scientists do separate different human races with different genertic markers as different races.
I mean come on now.
If race isn't real,then racial profiling isn't then.
Racism is absolute baloney as well and can't possibly real right?
This is just dumb man,I mean what dumb statements you just made.
A black raised within a chinese society will never be "chinese" per say.
Yes he maybe integrated culturally but that will never make him a chinese.
I mean every chinese people he will meet will be able to tell first hand that he is not chinese,and for obvious reason.
This is why aside from our liberal societies,this idea of culturally mixed societies is almost non existent.
And when it is those different groups,(either culturally,ethnically or genetically or all three at once)
Do not mix.
A good example is how japanese of korean descent are considered in the japanese society(there are many other examples)
You should look it up.
Culture has nothing to do with race,but they are linked in some ways,just not the way you believe they are.
Race is first and foremost an ensemble of genetic caracteristics that have distinct markers on the genotypical and phenotypical
Areas.
Otherwise scientists wouldn't be able to tell from your dna if you're caucasian from asian,from west africa or east africa,etc etc.
What has culture have to do with all this anyway?
If you can't see how it is stupid from scientists to claim there is no race, while using the term race to actually classify genetic data that helps differenciate people with different physical attributes is beyond me.
I am black and even I agree with most of what taylor says,because he speaks the truth.
There is nothing wrong he what he says,but it has become taboo because people think that believing in races and their intrinsic differences is somehow...racist.
once somebody says race is a social construct there's no point talking,as there clearly denying facts and nature,they will say some that some lefty hack said it so it as to be true they arnt just communists who talk rubbish,how can anybody say race is not real you can tell by looking at someone what race they are,and if race is a social construct why do these lefty keep telling me whites as a race are evil
Pr3ssPl4y good lord.first there is no general concesnsus about what race really is.
Just so we're clear.
Now the example of mixed race twins?
You're acting as if I didn't know about those.
That's funny.does being a race realist mean that we ignore the fact that there is the possiblity for random and(it must be pointed out)really really rare occurences of wierd cases like this one?giving the interbreeding different races have known for thousands of years now?
Aside interbreeding though,there are clear differences and genetical markers that are clearly identified within us humans,and that differentiate us.
Interbreeding make it more tricky,hence wierd stuff like these twins but they're nothing significant or even showing a "trend".
I mean come on allready.Is this all you have as a gotcha?
I am disapointed.
Listen,scientist have three major generical groups they've identified:african,caucasian and east asian.(and many other "sub-groups")
You're just arguing semantics really.
I use the word race just like when scientist use it,when they're trying to differenciate different groups who have different physical and genetical attributes.
Different breed of dogs can reproduce with one another,just like us,humans.
We do separate them with the term race though,and no one bats an eye.
Now for an another definition of race,for example,wich stipulates that it is living beings who can produce viable offspring,yes,we are,in that sense,all the same per say.
But that is pretty much the only thing we have in common,that and the basic functionement of our human bodies.
Otherwise they're clear differences between different races.
On a phenotypical,genetical,and to widen it up,cultural side.
It's undeniable,and ignoring that fact is preposterous.
A good book for you:a troublesome inheritance has a very good perspective on the subject.
The conclusions of the book have been debated,but the author has also provided pretty thorough answers.
Race is not a social construct.Stop acting as if thise was a given fact and deny basic biology.
Jared is brilliant
I wonder how Carl feels when he sees this today?
For 40 minutes Sargon managed to be reasonable. At the 43 minute mark he collapses and shows his not really Libertarian attitudes. Lets force people to abide by my beliefs, is his real attitude. Thanks for shouting the truth Jared.
thejudgehasjudged yes, probably due to disingenuousness unfortunately.
44:22 Sargon said, "I'm on the side of bake the (gay) cake." The USA Supreme court said you don't have to bake a gay-themed cake for a gay wedding.
@@jeffbridges5312 civilians of a country have a right to live where they can within that country. Sometimes that means racial diversity by proximity, and since those people of various races are living there together because that's the best place that they can live, they still have the right to move somewhere else. This diversity is not forced. It is a consequence of various factors rooted in negative liberty. The alternative is to limit the individual's freedoms of association and settlement, and that is tyranny.
@@rmccaw7 _civilians of a country have a right to live where they can within that country. Sometimes that means racial diversity by proximity, and since those people of various races are living there together because that's the best place that they can live, they still have the right to move somewhere else_
*Strawman* No one said people can't voluntarily live where they want to live. All you people try to do is strawman and gaslight because you have no message and you 100% morally and ethically wrong about everything
Forced diversity happens every single day in the workplace, LEGALLY FORCING employers to hire less qualified minorities and women, there is forced diversity in our schools, in the government and in all of our institutions every single day and forced diversity our government has been practicing since the Obama administration, shipping in 3rd world savages from all the most dangerous countries in the world and placing them in quiet communities, 100% PURE EVIL, that's what the Left IS.
Allowing illegals from all these most dangerous countries in the world over our border and ham stringing our own border enforcement to do anything about it is absolute SUICIDE and all of these Sanctuary cities are all FORCED DIVERSITY, all of government programs of building Section 8 housing in the middle of the best neighborhoods, pure evil and forced diversity
Its interesting to watch Sargon agree with everything but decide that reality sucks and stay idealistic because thats more comfortable for him.
See the is-ought fallacy, otherwise known as the naturalistic fallacy.
Besides, what Taylor is talking about isn't a universal. I wish all the white identitarians _would_ congregate together somewhere (same with the black, Asian, and every other type of identitarian) and leave the rest of us in peace.
Barnacle Bill which is what jared is arguing for here. If we let identiarians have their own place as well as let people who want mixed cutures have thier own place it would be better. Its just this stigma of whites wanting to be left alone to be with other whites thats getting in the way, because people automatically jump to white people thinking they are supirior and are going to plan mass genocide... which is idiotic, as we are no more prone to that than anyone else.
LadySagehawk But how would they even go about establishing those homogeneous states? Wouldn't you have to give other races the boot?
Skyfox i mean, maybe. I think african americans and native americans have just as much of a historic right to be in america as whites do. But it maybe as easy as, "here is your land, this co-mingling doesnt work. We respectively request a seperation and that you govern yourselves now. You resent us too much to let us do it. So its all up to you now." And an insentive program for everyone else to move back to their country of origin. So it wouldnt have to be that dramatic tbh.
+LadySagehawk crime rates prove otherwise
I agree with Jared Taylor 100%. It's so unfair that just because he's proud of who he is, he gets crucified. I'm so proud of being white and thank God I was born white. Good for him. Keep going brother!
Very impressed with Jared Taylor. Very elequant, sincere and well read. I would have loved to see him and either Hitchens debate race. I think that could have been very enlightening for the race debate.
Sargon is completely out classed in this talk.
trexx32 I don't even know why that annoying twat so often shop up in my feed.
Activists respond please. Also please clap.
i don't care if he's controversial, i like his voice, lol.
Brutaltronics whoaites
He's controversial because he speaks the simple truth
Wictor Lunde you are literally making the same points as socialists
same
I could listen to him say "whoites" all day long..if only it was being peppered amoung more admirable sentiments.
This guy lives in a bubble, and I'm not talking about Mr. Taylor.
Once again as always in all your videos Mr. Taylor, your points and ability to present facts as well as illustrating your examples in your debates are supremely articulate when delivered, that it can only leave the Left scratching their heads.
Go Mr. Taylor
Sargon is wrestling with himself, his views, his reputation, the entire time... poor guy is not taking well to getting red pilled. Sargon is wrong that Taylor's views will create "more prejudice." It is being forcibly coerced or socially browbeaten into unnatural sorts of interaction that creates animosity among people.
legendzfall anyone arrogantly doing "this week in stupid" while sounding stupid is stupid.
It’s like a mother trying to give a child a pill
Great post Legendzfall!
It always hurts to take a red pill, sometimes it just takes time.
It’s been 4 years. Do you still have the same beliefs today?
This conversation:
Sargon claims something
Taylor corrects his understanding
Sargon claims that's not the point
Taylor corrects his clarification which was the same as the original comment.
Sargon makes unintelligent "gotcha" point and moves on
LOL exactly.
Since the Kristi Winters Debate, outside of the Sargonites, I think most know that debating / verbal reasoning isn't one of Sargon's strength. Debating is also a lot harder than most give it credit for. Sargon's produces entertaining material showcasing the absurd and has a likable personality, which is what gives reach.
Also the people in Jared Taylor's camp can't afford to be dumb as those get weeded out extremely fast due to the current narrative. All diametrically opposed antithetical narratives and the people who hold them have gone through extreme levels of darwinism in the market place of ideas that their advocates tend to be more savvy (both in skill and knowledge) than advocates of ideas which are less challenged. This isn't to say that the less challenged ideas don't have intelligent thinkers, but the pressure for there to be only intelligent thinkers isn't there.
Debating is definitely not something everyone is great at I would agree.
And I don't say that to detract from sargon either. He is still new in this sphere, it's only been a few years.
Batter than Jareds approach of simply ignoring Sargons rebuttals and quickly moving on to something else as if to pretend no rebuttal was made. He did it throughout the whole interview. The London riots, Shakah Zulu, Guns Germs and Steel. Just ignore the sensible rebuke and talk about something unrelated.
Only a fool wouldn't recognise this conversational slight of hand. He's a hack not unlike the far left, or Christian apologists. He plays exactly the same debate game.
I wish that I could live in a country where my people were more important than foreigners.
Saargon. Take a walk through the London projects and come back and talk to me about all those CLASS differences.
Years ago, I lived next to a very nice Black family, you could not ask for better neighbors. But they chose to specifically send their children to an all-black school. When I asked the father about his reasoning for this, he simply felt that they would feel more comfortable and have more advantages in such an environment. I'm beginning to appreciate his reasoning.
Jeffrey Grimm
Well, as someone who has been to both almost all white and almost all black schools. Though it may have been more comfortable, the cultures are very different at each school.
thats the thing. it is not hateful at all to want to be separate from each other. its no different when best friends move in as room mates together and end up hating each others guts. sometimes it is just healthier to be good neighbors rather than to be room mates.
Economic vs racial distinctions are definitely a factor. No society is without it's problems, not even the Japanese who are largely homogenic. As a white person I can assure you that I have met more distasteful whites than blacks, overall. However, as a percentage of all the people I've ever met based on race, it is the opposite. Obviously, just my personal experience and opinions.
@@techpriest6962 and you had to infer a racist notion with your comment. Clown
Sargon refuses to accept realities over abstract moralisms.
Razgriz Surget
Principles are philosophical axioms not abstractions. Sargon noted how without principles Northern Europeans were savage and then JT replied with muh stonhenge meanwhile many other cultures all over the world had similar structures... low IQ sophistry at best but most likely a snake oil salesman to morons...
@@TheIbdeathskull Since when have the acquisition of principles (via abstract intellectual derivation) been a guarantor against an ensuing calamity? Tut.. low IQ sophistry. One could make it a principle, for example, that total freedom can be achieved with total equality, but I wouldn't put money on it not resulting in piles of corpses.
Lytton333
Equality of outcome is a political trend that is not backed up by data or any notable philosophers that stood the test of time. Equality of opportunity yes. But equality of outcome is a myth.
The main lesson learned from Stalin is that one death is a tragedy and a million deaths are a statistic. With modern technology that one death gets broadcasted to the masses so all it takes is one monk burning or one person shot in the head to inspire change and revolution. The best way to get this change to occur is via trade. Bad economics and income inequality are usually the source of most political issues. This is why sun tzu valued trade over military might.
"reality has a known liberal bais"
Sargon demonstrated during this conversation that his ideology is incoherent.
I love Jared :D
Jim Smith you need help
Captive Mind cause he’s a douche
Its great to see Jared's ideas being tested. All too often I only see the Alt-Right talking to themselves. This kind of engagement will help to Red-Pill the Normies. Fair play to Sargon for doing this debate, but its pretty clear why the left will only shout down intellects like Jared on the Alt-Right. They know they'll lose.
Thing is, very few people are willing to debate him because they "don't want to give him a platform". The end result is most of the people that do debate him are idiots who he ends up steamrolling, leaving his ideas pretty much completely unchallenged.
This guy is my favorite pro-white advocate. I'm glad he had Jared Taylor on.
@Enkidu
No, there's plenty of other great ones like Henrik Palmgren, Nathan Damigo and Greg Johnson.
I was making a joke. The first line makes you think I'm talking about Jared Taylor, then the second reveals I was talking about Sargon. Comedy! Jokes are always funnier when you have to explain them! 😂
TheVirgin Mary420 one distinction would be that la raza, or the Chicano movement, has to do with Mexican-Americans and they're being in touch with their meso-American roots/culture. Notice that America has nothing to do with Mexico. It was founded by whites of european ancestry. There is no place for hyphenated Americans in America. Drop the prefix of African, Mexican, Asian, Muslim. Etc. and get on board with American. Or, go home.
You mean a pro-huwhite advocate?
big-brain centrism please go
Sargon, maybe you should interview Mr Taylor again in 2022? Knowing a million english girls have been raped & groomed & London not being an English city anymore.
Kudos for having him on and hosting such a productive conversation.
Oh my goodness did not expect this
Corvo@AZ He does constantly what the fuck are you smoking?
Ame Ketsueki
Not really. Baked Alaska doesn't really have a political mind.
I am proud to say I'm a member of the Alt Right and that I will do what it takes to preserve Western Culture / White American Culture. Jared Taylor is a legend.
The movement is not restricted to just America
heathen27 That's such great news to hear. I support all the Alt Right world wide. America is just in a bit of a situation at the moment. Where are you located friend?
England. Just England. The UK have to split up after we drive the Muslims out one way or another. We English have irreconcilable views to the Scots and Northern Irish, but the Welsh can stay.
11:10 Sargon... do you really think that when Thomas Jefferson put his pen to paper and wrote the word 'man,' that he was talking about the black people he owned and the "red men" he waged war against in his time as President?
Jared sorta ruined you here bro.
@Shadowsangheili You should read Trump's book 'Winners Aren't Losers'.
Just sayin'
Just because someone's saying things you want to hear doesn't mean they won or are right. thinking like that is how you wind up in a cult.
shadowsangheili Er... Sargon proved to the world he is an idiot, hence ruined.
yeah isn't rape banned on youtube?
Domenico Grimaldi This was the moment Sargon gave up on the battle of ideas. After this he changed his strategy with every other Alt Right figure, now using typical disingenuous SJW strategies. His next debate with Richard Spencer was a shit show. He just patronised & mocked Spencer, wasted time. Then he took on Andrew Anglin with an obvious ulterior motive, in bad faith, it was embarrassing. Not that Anglin or even Spencer are on Taylor's level but Sargon won't be making this mistake again in a hurry. He got fckn decimated. Sargon needs to hold on to his safe Social Democratic multicult position, maintain his social status, livelihood. The truth? He can't handle the truth. He's decided to take up Krauts crusade of attacking the Alt Right by any means necessary.
Chad White advocate vs Virgn Individualist
I laughed really hard at this cause it fits perfectly even though Sargon has a kid
I'm glad you laughed mate!
It's not his kid, it's another guys kid. Woman came with kid.
lol'd
VarietyGamer seriously?
It’s sept 2023 and I’m willing to bet now Carl Benjamin would agree muchhhh more with Jared. Oh what the last few years have shown us with the effects of multiculturalism in the West.
Sargon is an example of a fairly intelligent person who works tirelessly to convince himself what he's seeing isn't there. It's just too hard for so many people to cast off the politically correct orthodoxy.
I like both of these guys but Jared Taylor's worldview seems most coherent.
"Oh I know lots about Northern Europeans 2,000 years ago"
>Can only point to Aristotle (a single man who was not primarily any sort of historiographer) talking about inhabitants of the Balkans/Eurasian Steppe
What a disingenuous piece of shit. He knows he can't do anything to refute the truth of what Taylor is saying, so all he can do is attempt to nitpick the validity of interpretations of any specific examples that are brought up and then cling to his disagreement, refusing to cede any ground as if that will offer the illusion that he is saying something that Taylor cannot actually refute, when it is really just a case of polite acquiescence for the sake of not getting bogged down on petty details that would require the tripling of the conversation's length to debunk. For being such an ancient-history loving Romaboo Carl is also shown to be much less historically literate than Taylor as well, which is rather embarrassing.
Sargon, well done and thank you for interviewing Jared; may you both live long and prosper!
Wow Jared Taylor just melts sargons brain. Feels like he just stops listening when he hears something that goes against his worldview.
"White Identity" by Jared Taylor is required reading for every white person. Even if you think you don't agree, just read it and see if you still disagree.
i googled it and found that amazon had banned it! Going to buy through Jarod's website
@@MElixirDNB nice joice
i pirated the book (link got taken down). couldnt get theough the first page. incomprehensible ramblings just like mein kampf
@@shadysheep1984 you're just too stupid to understand it. You think your pseudointellectual rationalizations somehow discredit his irrefutable points.
@@TheHeroRobertELee yes. i might be stupid but im smart enough to not be racist
Jared Taylor has been essential in my own racial awareness awakening. He is one of the few speaking that the Earth is round when it is heresy to think it other than flat.
Here Here!
Are you sure you didn't always have this opinion, and you finally recently found the time to express it anonymously on the internet?
Browns are not of the soul.
Thank you for having this national treasure on your channel. Ideology versus pragmatism.
22:33 THIS IS EXACTLY what the UK government is talking about in 2024, paying people 3k to leave the country