I love this scene. You can tell how much Roxas resents for Sora for being the one on the outside, but at same time looks up to him and admires him even as his shadow. Such a complicated relationship. I wouldn't mind seeing more of it.
Have you not seen Xion's death in 385/2?! Not only does she disappear from existence, everyone forgets about her, and Roxas is in a constant struggle not to as he goes to defeat Xemnas for betraying his trust, but in the end couldn't even do that because Riku stopped him before he could
DonutzCrew He had to stop him, Roxas's goal was to not let Xemnas have his way in Kingdom Hearts, to stop him and release all the hearts. Riku knew that Roxas Couldnt defeat Xemnas once and for all, That he would fail. Riku wanted Sora to fight Xemnas, Which meant that Roxas would have to give up his half to Sora, He is his nobody and the last step towards Soras Awakening to a new era. "It is a fate of a nobody".
Drug Lord123 this would be easier if Roxas and Ventus were the same person, just like Axel/Lea. So he would be complete again when Ventus gets his heart back
Damn, this is their first actual conversation without fighting and already we see that Sora believes Roxas should be his own person. I'm really hoping Sora and Roxas get to interact more in KH3, in a way where its the exact opposite of how Ventus and Vanitas were.
Nicholas Atkins No. Sora fell asleep because Namine messed up Sora’s memories in C.O. That wasn’t because of Roxas. If Roxas wakes up the only risk is the Organization may want to use him as a vessel but I doubt that will happen b/c from the KH3 Trailers they keep saying they have their 13th without Roxas around. Roxas coming back only involves Sora finding a way to release him from his heart without completely turning into a heartless & nobody.
Christian Mejia I know :( Although the moments that do come up are pretty sweet. When Sora thinks of Roxas as his brother in San Fransokyo while talking about Tadashi, and Sora’s determination to set Roxas free. I appreciated those moments. Although I do hope Nomura sees he should be giving them more interaction based off the build up he’s given for them.
"No, Roxas, you're you.We're not the same. I wanted to tell you that. That you deserve as much as I do, to be your own person." Listen to that line, seriously, listen to Sora closely when he says that. He does show sympathy for Roxas because of what happened to him. Even though the torture that Roxas, Xion and Namine went through wasn't Sora's fault. He still felt bad and wants to help ease and mend their pain. That line should at least give the fans some respect for Sora.
+David Timmer The problem with Sora is that he's all good. He's always the nice, forgiving, campy hero. While that's fine on it's own, it doesn't make much for an interesting character, especially when that type of personality is milked out as much as Sora's has. Characters like Roxas, on the other hand, are much more interesting. Roxas isn't always bright and happy, within him there's a deep sense of anguish, and you see that in the way he talks and acts. He gets angry, he gets sad. The trope of a hero looking for/trying to save his friends is one that's become boring. Roxas' struggle to simply exist; to live as an individual rather than someone else's nobody constantly subject to forces he has no control over, that's a much more interesting and emotionally stimulating story to follow. Hell, even listening to Roxas' theme conveys the tragedy behind him, and makes you sympathize with his sadness, whereas Sora rarely evokes any feelings other than the familiar warmth of friendship, which to be frank Roxas did better a better job of in his KH2 intro with Hayner, Pence, and Olette.
+kiwitowel I don't find Roxas as appealing as everyone else, In my honest opinion he's kind of overrated, because of the over reliance on his sob story. He's not bad, I just find him too whiny and edgy. Also, his overexposure's getting pretty annoying. Still love his theme though
+kiwitowel That is not true at all. Sora isn't always happy, for example, you can see how broken he was when Riku took his Keyblade and Donald and Goofy left him to follow Riku, you can see how jealous and sad he was, he even said it himself.
*See's Xion* "Wait what? Oh god just fight the feels!" *See's Roxas, and hears theme play* "WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS TO ME TETSUYA NOMURA?!?" *Sora tells Roxas that he's his own person* "Ok, i've just decided that Sora is my new favorite person ever. (If he wasn't already)"
XIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON!!!!! To see that the Roxas in Sora still treasured his time with Xion somewhere within his heart, although that he had already forgotten her, and cries is just.... *heartCRUSHing.* SquareEnix, *WHY!?*
I cried when I saw her look down when Sora didn't recognize her. It was almost like there was hope. And then sora is like "who are you?" And Xion just looks down.
ForbiddenMemories XIV Only Roxas has the memories of his time with Xion. Sora has his own memories and he never encountered her until this point of the game or atleast see Roxas' memories.
the moment Sora shed that single tear for Xion made me wonder. Was it Roxas crying because a part of him remembers Xion and everything they went through, including him being forced to kill her. OR Is it Xion's pain, for the reminder that nobody remembers her.
+okami I'm pretty sure Roxas was crying inside Sora, another instance is Sora leaving Twilight Town for his next adventure. Sora shed a tear when he had to say goodbye to the Twilight Town gang, because Roxas was the one who didn't wanna say goodbye to them. Because Sora doesn't know Xion due to him being asleep to regain his memories.
I don't like it when people think of Sora as a shallow and plain character. Sure, he's one of the few characters who haven't suffered a lot, but in this game, he's finally able to see things he was completely unaware and oblivious of about the people connected to him. He starts realizing about all he didn't know, that's why he begins chasing dreams and ends up way too caught up in them.
Yeah, though he was also a huge dumbass in this game and is still beyond trusting. Hopefully he learns to recognise what the players do and not act like he's got a mental deficiency in KH3. Aside from Chain of memories, Sora hasn't shown a lot of personal investment in defeating the villain, which I think is what bothers people most. It doesn't help that his character is also rather simplistic. Anyway, apparently Sora is supposed to be more of leader in KH3 so mabye that stuff will improve.
Not implying he's the deepest character in the series, or that he's gone though a lot of growth and struggle as other characters, just saying he's not shallow. I know they kinda screwed it him up in this game, and hoping they improve its character complexity and matureness in KH3
kioo786 The problem is that Sora's character completed it's arc in KH1 because Nomura wasn't sure if there would ever be a sequel, which is why you see a lot of weird retcons in later parts in the series (Ansem's identity/multiple keyblades). I think it works out because Sora is such a good person that it's pleasant to be around him and see him be a steadfastly moral and kindhearted character. That usually leads to boring characters, but it somehow works for Sora in my opinion.
I think Sora is meant to represent the light in everyone's heart, which he does to a fault. He's easily exploitable because he believes the best of people, such is his character.
+Epurope everyone that plays 358/2 days could feel anger for Sora in someway. But, now, this seems to relieve all of it. Well played Square Enix... Well Played...
Uhm. Sora started crying at xion because Roxas memories are inside him. Sora is unaware but deep inside he owns the memories of his nobody and the pain that he was put through. Think about that. Sounds really powerful to me
Deep inside him is Xion's memories and the pain she went through, and Roxas' memories and pain was there, until he met Roxas in this little scenario and Roxas held his hands .. and transferred all of his memories and pain. I wonder - why does Sora's appearance fluctuate between KH1 look & KH2 ?
Seeing Sora not recognize Xion at all just broke my heart in two because I knew what she gave up for him. I mean, it makes sense that he didn't know her, but it didn't make the revelation any less painful. :(
If he remembered her, her entire story arc would have meant nothing. the ending of Days is all about Xion's sacrifice, they can't just invalidate that.
Raey Axan I feel you... I just finished watching the HD cutscenes of KH 358/2 from the 1.5 remix. That was too damn sad... not only is she gone, but she is forgotten by everyone, even the people she sacrificed herself for.
6:32 I kinda think that Sora telling Roxas that he deserves to be his own person is a way of foreshadowing that Roxas will somehow end up being separated from Sora. Or maybe when Sora gives Ventus back his heart, Ven will have all of Roxas's memories.
Brian04510 No, Naminé is Kairi's Nobody. She was created during the fall of Destiny Islands when Kairi's heart left her body and went into Sora. She is made of a portion of Sora's body and soul, and due to the uniqueness of her creation from other nobodies, Naminé was born with the ability to affect the memories of Sora and those close to him.
paul cedeno You're right, Axel lives on as a complete being now that he has reawakened as Lea. And since he has retained all of his memories of his time as Axel, it is not truly accurate to say that Axel is gone.
***** Brian04510 is right. Xion is a replica/clone of Sora, and she is created from his memories. Her appearance changes based on how people view her, but her main appearance is a result of Sora's memories and feelings of Kairi.
@@ScottvsWild It’s because he knows Roxas more. He’s “closer” to him, also canonically, Ven is first, BBS is 10 years before KH I and technically 11 years or 11 years and something months before Kingdom Hearts 358/2 and definitely KH II. But either way, Roxas was still created at the end of KH, so the difference is still 10 years, if we don’t go by the games’ release times and think about the elapsed time in the games.
(Spoiler warning) I love that Re:Coded, Data Roxas was warning Data Sora about carrying a "hurt" in his heart (the pain of those who are connected with Sora like Roxas/Ven/Xion) and, in general, being a VERY nice guy because it would drag Sora into darkness if he holds onto the hurt. Hence, Sora almost becoming the 13th dark vessel for Xehanort because Sora kept chasing these images in his heart. Sora is amazing for still holding onto the hurt and willing to help no matter what!
And thecnically, if we try to compare to common facts, that's not so bad written... that's even pretty accurate. We must admit that Sora, if it doesn't sound to pejorative, is a "teenager"... a young man growing to become a man. But his heart is yet the one of a child, carring a great part of innoncence, dreams, good will, ect... therefore, he face these darkness, but he doesn't have the hindsight to bare their weight. We all face these "darkness" under many shapes : wrath, sadness, hurt... the older we become, the more we win in hindsight to face them. Not that it become more easy, but we can accept these darkness as part of the life, as a piece of "All". But when we are young, unexperimented, we're much more sensible to them... As child, they are unknow to us ( well... most of the time ). But... this moment that Sora lives, the one that change us from a child to an adult, the balance become harder than ever. And the weight of these feelings become heavier, painful... Which is maybe why he didn't recieved the mark of master, at the oposit of Riku : not because he recieved by Terra the might to carry a keyblade, back in the days... but because he found the balance between dark and light during his journey.
Kevin Tierney He already did, His beginning...Wasn't that great. We all know that Roxas is Soras nobody. Which means he was a part of sora, a connection that they share. Well Roxas made a promise to Namine, Just like what happened to sora and kairi, He promised he will see her again soon. But now both gone and despaired back to there proper place. Everytime Sora and Kairi are together Roxas and Namine are too. This may not be the best ending to Roxas and his back story, But its the only one he has..Though i would wish Roxas will be himself in Kingdom Hearts 3.
Honestly, I'm pretty sure everything has been set up for Roxas to reunite with Xion and Lea so that they can all be their own people again in KH3. That'll be their true ending
Can I be honest... I think it's not gonna happen... because I think that you can maybe play as the seven guardians... maybe and I don't think that they would make Roxas an long time party member... maybe a short time like in KH2 but not for well, uhm long(I love to repeat myself) But I satisfied withe ventus, lea and co. to be playable characters/party members( but these are just my assumptions so, pls don't hate me)
Jendeni 1498 So you're saying that you don't think Roxas or Xion will come back? I sort of understand why you would think that but to be honest it seems sort of ridiculous that they wouldnt come back to me since every KH3 hype game(BBS, re:coded, DDD) has had Roxas and Xion cameos in them with a little nudge and a wink saying "they deserve to be their own people", and DDD's ending straight out proclaiming to the world via Ansem that Sora needs to "SAVE THESE PEOPLE" with the data that he has hidden inside of his heart. (plus Roxas made a cameo in DDD's cinematic opening helping Sora out fighting xehanort) Yes, it's rather clear that neither of them will be a guardian of light (although Roxas has potential to be because of DDD's OP). But im 99.999999999% that they'll return in KH3 and will become their own people because Sora will save them, along with Ventus, Namine, Aqua, Terra, and Ansem.
So... while I haven't played the games past KH2... I already love Xion as a character. Her story is a tragic, yet noble one... I won't give it all away. This scene though... it's very poignant. Xion could tell Sora who she is, what she is, what she's done and sacrificed... but it's more important that Sora deliver his message to the real Namine, the real Roxas. It's more important that Sora move on, then let her stop him. I suppose she couldn't help but see him once, which is why he met her here. So she runs away without a word... Xion knows Sora is needed, and that this is how she can best help him.
Oh Roxas, your whole story just still breaks my heart to this day. And Sora supporting you like that, the feels... I hope KHIII sets everything right for you, so much.
When this part came up in the game, I actually had to put it down for a while. At 1:16 where Xion shows up... My ex-girlfriend looked a lot like her. Not just that, but she was a Kingdom Hearts fan as well and heavily identified with Xion. After she dumped me, I could barely stand to play 358/2 Days anymore. I knew not that she would make a comeback in Dream Drop Distance. When she showed up... In Sora's brief pause... All the emotions came rushing back.
"xion shouldn't come back because it'd ruin her sacrifice!" the same could be said for literally every other character that has died/disappeared/wotever (aqua, ven, terra, axel, etc). it COULD ruin it, sure, but if they write and execute it the right way, it'd be incredible. and i personally would love to see the clocktower trio together again.
Brian04510 What? Have YOU played Birth By Sleep? Roxas is NOT Ventus at the end of bbs Ventus' heart went to Sora and when Sora stabbed himself with the keyblade of hearts in KH1, Roxas was born in Twilight town. Roxas looks like Ventus because when Sora stabbed himself Ven's heart went to Roxas. They are not the same person.
Roxas is Sora's nobody and being a nobody he doesn't have a heart or (In Roxas' case) wasn't suppose to have a heart. Because of Ven's heart going to Roxas it affected his appearance otherwise Roxas would have looked like Sora. "After Ventus' first cameo, Nomura had to state that both of them are different characters, and the reason for such connection would be revealed in Birth by Sleep."
hate to break it to you. but Xion.....is gone forever. she was a mistake. she never should have happened. thats y 358/2 days is so sad. because we have never lost anyone from the story forever.
Roxas inside of Sora sheds a tear for Xion, which means he remembers her, so all is not lost. If memories of her still exist there is still hope, she is not forgotten.
***** Roxas: Sora, see? That's why it has to be you *Roxas grabs Sora's hands and shows him the vision of all the people* Roxas: Sora, I don't want another pretty face, I don't want just anyone to hold, I don't want my love to go to waste...I want you and your beautiful soul......................................................to defeat the heartless. *Sora comes out of the trance, only to see that no one is there* Sora: Not again......I hope those aren't dead people (LOL sorry I couldn't resist ;p)
Underestimated Usually there was nowhere here stating of kh3 XD the only thing stated was actors of the series itself :P since the left out vanitas i just had to mention it
Young Dice He's like 26 now...! The whole time when I borrow my friends 3ds I kept on cringing everytime Sora spoke. I guess I got so used to his 18 year old voice in KH2....
I like how people say roxas and sora are the same, when they are completly different. The only thing i see them having in common is the urge to deny what someone is saying when its actually pretty important
I hope in KH 3 they let Haley use an older voice for Sora, it's not his fault he can't really pull off the KH 2 one anymore, he's just not a kid anymore. But him as Vanitas in BBS proves without a doubt that he can still act just fine, he was awesome in that game. Seriously just let him do a slightly less sinister Vanitas voice for Sora and it should work great. Plus him having a deeper more mature voice would fit with what we know about how Sora is going to behave in 3.
Yes an older voice for Sora is much needed. Ever since Re:Com its been off putting to hear the mature Osment voice the younger incarnation. Finally Sora will get the justice he deserves
When I saw Xion I just snapped and got all teary,then roxas had to come along and make things even sadder AND then terra,Aqua and Ven had to join in the waterworks party aswell. SquareEnix sure do know how to host a crying party gosh!
I hope to God xion doesn't physically come back in Kh3, it would ruin her whole sacrifice. What I do want is for Sora to get keyblade armor, and I want that to be xion's final form from Days. That would be the perfect way for her to "come back."
+DarkStorm230 I'm hoping she somehow does and it works T^T I love that she was willing to sacrifice herself but its just too sad for her to become my favorite character and then disappear in the same game she was introduced in. It'd be great if they somehow came up with a good reason for Xion coming back, since no one even remembers her
Didn't Axel come back as Lea though in 3D? I never played the game myself though, only from what my friend told me, and he was completely destroyed too, heartless and nobody alike. Xion only had Sora's memory taken from her, basically joining him. It's not impossible for her to come back, but I'd like a really good reason for it
Yeah Axel was revived as Lea, practically the entire organization was revived as their original selves. It's not impossible and it's been hinted at, but I'd personally prefer if Xion didn't come back (or at least if she does, they better do it right lol)
+DarkStorm230 Exactly, I want them to do it right since there is a possibility, but at the same time it's a really small possibility since all memory of her was taken apart and returned to Sora. Basically since she was only made through Sora's memories and the Organization's puppet, they'd need a miracle to bring her back.
He is inside of a dream. The red clothes you see him wearing during the gameplay segments are the clothes he wears into the dream and what you see him in throughout the majority of the game. The black clothes is his outfit from KH2 which is what his subconscious draws his appearance back to in the cut scenes during this section of the game as that is what he looked like when he visited The World That Never Was before it became locked in its dream-state.
it possibility Xion,Roxas,Namine are going to fight alongside with Sora and the 3 Guardians of light from birth by sleep are going to fight in KH3....Hell Yaa EPIC KEYBLADE WAR!!!!!!!
You know, I often think about how "I wish I had that strong pure heart. Something that could restore broken people." Yet, I don't believe people can have corrupted hearts. By my own logic, I should have it. I can tell I've become immune to Darkness. It really seems the thing I struggle with is actually nothingness. The void. How I can tell nothing is there when it should be. I'm a comic book writer but sometimes I can just feel some of my characters grasping onto life through my imagination. Like they want to be whole and to exist. I think they have every right too. Doesn't everyone have the right to exist?
I know how you feel. Every chracter is apart of me fighting with my own darkness and being saved by the light shone through the chracters that are within me. Cheering me on.
They do. I write fantasty. And right now it's very dark in my story. But everyone in the end is saved by this chracters light and love. All the chracters come to life. you can feel their joy, happiness. sadness and pain. And its like they're your babies. Darkness and Light. One cannot exsist without the other. The ones caught inbetween are Shadows. But even Shadows deserves to become one or the other
I'm 17..I too have done some writing just to be able to use my imagination. The characters I've created...somehow it's kinda strange. It's like knowing a character better than it knows itself, while it doesn't even exist.
hmm maybe Sora still ended up falling into the darkness because it was his first real time having to actually deal with his own darkness. That pure aspect of himself was at the end of the day a naive way to avoid pain. Roxas is like the backside of his heart, his other side of the coin. Can't hide from your self no matter how optimistic you may be.
Such a powerful conversation between him and Roxas. They have such a complicated relationship and yet, there's a lot of understanding between the two of them too.
Funny how everyone hates it how Roxas was to give up his own existence to restore Sora's, even though it wasn't really Sora's fault in the first place And yet Sora agrees all too well with the fandom about Roxas being his own person, even if Roxas accepts himself as a part of Sora.
Abigdummy4life Nobodies act as their originals do. Yet Roxas seems to display his own personality. It hasn't been really explained how powerful nobodies react when they are created. Only Roxas' has been shown and he had no memories or reason to exist, he was just a blank slate. He should have probably been receiving memories from Sora, as axel did from his original lea, but since the rare predicament of Sora bringing himself back occured, this left him blank which allowed him to create his own path along with the organization. Nothing like Roxas has happened, so chances are he really is his own person. The memories and pieces that roxas took from sora are already back, all that is left is what roxas created, which is why Sora probably still sees him deep inside himself. Those pieces aren't his, just like the parts Xion, Ventus and Namine left behind.
That "This could have been the other way around." line actually really got me thinking. I'd never considered what happens to a nobody and a heartless, as individuals, when they rejoined. Or at least, Roxas and Sora, since they both displayed strong individual traits. I guess that really does go to show how much Roxas gave up, because there wasn't any struggle for existence. D:
Okay so Sora cry when he saw Xion but it wasn't actually Sora it was Roxas who cry when he saw her because both Sora and Roxas share the same feel? Correct me if I'm wrong but about Ven, I guess that's the reason why Sora can wield a keyblade.
yinyang452 While Ven is the only reason Sora could initially wield a Keyblade, it's obvious he's its wielder for a reason when he takes it back from Riku. Aqua wouldn't used the Keyblade Inheritance Ceremony on him, if he wasn't for Riku, for a reason, you know~
I began to mod it for the sake of doing it, I got Roxas's Oathkeeper damage and compared that to his Oblivion damage, I swear the difference so I gave a huge 60% buff to his damage while in Duel Wield. It felt right to do that because two key blades should supposedly do more damage.
What does Roxas mean with "This could have been the other way arround. But it really has to be you."? And why is Sora getting younger, while he is seeing Roxas' memories?
He means that he never had to go back to Sora. He could have done everything Sora did but due to everyones hearts being connected to Sora's it really did have to be Sora instead. He then gives Sora all of his memories so that Sora truly understands the sacrifice he had to make
Whenever Sora's in the sleeping worlds, his outfit changes. It's how the new Org. keep track of him. (That X on his shirt) I think he's dreaming whenever he has that red outfit on, which would make sense since Roxas told him he wasn't dreaming when he had his KH2 outfit on. And that quote means that it could've been Sora who had to disappear, instead of him. Roxas could've been the hero, but "it really has" to be Sora since they're just too different. Sora's personality makes him capable of saving everyone.
birnbachn considering thier fight in kingdom hearts 2 was a mental struggle...he means that when they became whole roxas could have been the dominant part...but it had to be sora because of all the hearts connected to his.
Well said. It is an interesting paradox and a great example of how appearances can be deceiving. While redemption should exist for those that seek it, some don't even have that option, like Xion. =(
I do like this scene. It shows Sora the unintentioned sadness he has brought to others - forgetting his promise to Namine, making everyone forget Xion existed, pretty much everything Roxas went through. Thankfully he is too nice to blame anyone else, and wants to save everyone.
When xehanort split ventus' heart wasn't it sora's heart that mended Ventus his heart so that he would have the ability to use a keyblade without a dark half and with that said technically wasn't it Sora that initially gave ventus the power to use the keyblade
Jalen Cunningham he was but his heart became to fracture to even use it which is why in the beginning of the game he asks or to lend him part of his heart after that he was able to use the keyblade again
They said in 'Chain of Memories' that memories are never lost, only the chains connecting them are broken. When chains are built memories get reconnected. *cough* Xion *cough*
Watch this video, it made more scene to me and maybe to others who haven't seen this. Seems long but worth knowing some things tht you might not know. Like why Vanitas looks so much like Sora, and why Sora's nobody looks like Ven for example. plus who's hearts are still connected to Sora, and wat might happen to Ven at the end of Birth by Sleep, why his heart went to Sora once again. /watch?v=xm-NoyqzGkY
Vanitas was created long before Ventus "met" Sora. Vanitas was pulled from Ven by Master Xehanort when Ven was unable to pursue Xehanorts harsh training. This then shattered Ven's heart and Xehanort took Ven to Destiny Islands to dispose of him. That was where Ventus encountered a voice that helped him heal his heart. That voice was Sora's heart calling out to Ven's heart for the first time. The fact that Vanitas, who was created before that, resembles Sora, means that...
SPOILER ALERT Sora actually changed clothes because, the clothes he was wearing when Roxas showed up are his original clothes, so he wears them when he sees the dreams. The red ones are set ups by the real Organization XIII so they could track where Sora was.
anthoseba I just looked up the Recusant's Sigil aka ("Mark of heresy") is a symbol designed by Xehanort to represent the rejection of a Nobody from his original persona. I find it strange that what Xehanort finds heretical is a symbol for Christ aka the x symbol or insignia.
riku may have the mark of mastery but sora is stronger because his strength is all his friends not just the control and no fear of darknes it,s because sora fears darknes he is stronger then riku because it takes more courage to to throw your heart into darknes what sora did in kh1 then to go to sleep in darknes catch my drift
*record scratches* Wait... What? So, your telling me that there's a manga for Kingdom Hearts? I NEVER KNEW ABOUT THIS... Well then... I'm gonna read some manga now :D
I think the point of Xion was to be more symbolic of a character. An example as to how far Xehanort is willing to go to achieve his goals. She was introduced as someone you needed to protect, a burden. She was distant but continued to grow on you. At the end you find out she's just a tool, a means to an end, a Nothing. Hers is an existence of suffering. She came from nothing, found everything and was them forced to try and destroy all of it. It's a great way to make you feel more anger at the main Antagonist. Xehanort is one of my favorite video game villains of all time, he has so much back story and you have so many justifiable reasons to hate him.
+AZ “AzureRaver” ER 358/2 was also the first kh that I played, but you don't know a sad story until you play kingdom hearts birth by sleep. don't read this wrong, I'm not saying 358 wasn't sad.
No problem at all man :) always happy to help out lol im like a freak with kh thats why i know a lot , maybe not everything but yeah its such a deep story line and theres so much to it, thats what makes it such an amazing game :)
In an interview with Tetsuya Nomura as well as various novelizations of the game, it is revealed that this similarity is due to Sora's heart connecting with Ventus near the beginning of the game, and had anyone else connected with Ventus's heart, Vanitas would look like that person. His appearance prior to Ventus's connection with Sora
As far as Xion, just go to Wikipedia. But for the short version, she is a Replica created to hold some of Sora's memories, preventing his awakening. She became one of Roxas' best friends but she knew that Sora had to wake up so she forced Roxas to kill her. This made everyone forget her, but the times she spent with Roxas wouldn't just vanish, so they are inside Sora.
The best way to explain the Roxas/Ven thing is that Roxas was essentially using Ventus' heart (which was asleep) w/o knowing it to compensate for of his own (Roxas') missing heart until he could A) grow a replacement or B) regain his true heart, ie Sora. However a 3rd scenario occurred because of the existence of Xion who was inhibiting their connection. Ultimately Roxas defeated/absorbed her & all 3 eventually rejoined with Sora.
When Sora said Roxas deserved to be his own person, I broke down. Roxas has been through so much! He's awesome, too. I hope he gets to be his own person soon. SO MANY FEELS ;^;
Plus its implied that the reason that she took the form she did is because of Roxas' (or Ventus if you want to call him that) memories of Aqua. So to Roxas she is much greater than just a replica of Sora, she took on her own form because of Roxas' influence (it is mentioned that she did not have a unique face, voice, etc when she first joined the organization) and became her own character. Aside from that, shes also the reason Roxas left the organization and why he has 2 keyblades.
I already said all of that multiple times. As to the Vanitas face thing Nomura already confirmed that Vantias would have looked just like Ven under the helmet up until the point that Sora merged with and repaired Ven's heart station which is when his appearance changed to match Sora's.
I love this scene. You can tell how much Roxas resents for Sora for being the one on the outside, but at same time looks up to him and admires him even as his shadow. Such a complicated relationship. I wouldn't mind seeing more of it.
This is the saddest scene in Kingdom hearts histroy...
Have you not seen Xion's death in 385/2?! Not only does she disappear from existence, everyone forgets about her, and Roxas is in a constant struggle not to as he goes to defeat Xemnas for betraying his trust, but in the end couldn't even do that because Riku stopped him before he could
SSHHHHHHUTTT UPPP
You're making me cry :(
DonutzCrew He had to stop him, Roxas's goal was to not let Xemnas have his way in Kingdom Hearts, to stop him and release all the hearts. Riku knew that Roxas Couldnt defeat Xemnas once and for all, That he would fail. Riku wanted Sora to fight Xemnas, Which meant that Roxas would have to give up his half to Sora, He is his nobody and the last step towards Soras Awakening to a new era. "It is a fate of a nobody".
Drug Lord123 this would be easier if Roxas and Ventus were the same person, just like Axel/Lea. So he would be complete again when Ventus gets his heart back
Damn, this is their first actual conversation without fighting and already we see that Sora believes Roxas should be his own person. I'm really hoping Sora and Roxas get to interact more in KH3, in a way where its the exact opposite of how Ventus and Vanitas were.
@Nicholas Atkins wasnt Sora sleepin because he lost his memories in Castro oblivion? I think roxas can exist too with sora
Nicholas Atkins No. Sora fell asleep because Namine messed up Sora’s memories in C.O. That wasn’t because of Roxas. If Roxas wakes up the only risk is the Organization may want to use him as a vessel but I doubt that will happen b/c from the KH3 Trailers they keep saying they have their 13th without Roxas around. Roxas coming back only involves Sora finding a way to release him from his heart without completely turning into a heartless & nobody.
Michael GC And that's exactly what happened... Nice answer dude.
Sadly Sora and Roxas barely even interact. He comes outta nowhere at the very end of the game and that’s that
Christian Mejia I know :( Although the moments that do come up are pretty sweet. When Sora thinks of Roxas as his brother in San Fransokyo while talking about Tadashi, and Sora’s determination to set Roxas free. I appreciated those moments. Although I do hope Nomura sees he should be giving them more interaction based off the build up he’s given for them.
7:00 "I'll just stand here and smile as I flood your mind with sadness"
omfg why??? XD
Shawn J orgasm
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O my God
😂🤣😂🤣😂
"No, Roxas, you're you.We're not the same. I wanted to tell you that. That you deserve as much as I do, to be your own person." Listen to that line, seriously, listen to Sora closely when he says that. He does show sympathy for Roxas because of what happened to him. Even though the torture that Roxas, Xion and Namine went through wasn't Sora's fault. He still felt bad and wants to help ease and mend their pain. That line should at least give the fans some respect for Sora.
I feel respect
+David Timmer The problem with Sora is that he's all good. He's always the nice, forgiving, campy hero. While that's fine on it's own, it doesn't make much for an interesting character, especially when that type of personality is milked out as much as Sora's has. Characters like Roxas, on the other hand, are much more interesting. Roxas isn't always bright and happy, within him there's a deep sense of anguish, and you see that in the way he talks and acts. He gets angry, he gets sad. The trope of a hero looking for/trying to save his friends is one that's become boring. Roxas' struggle to simply exist; to live as an individual rather than someone else's nobody constantly subject to forces he has no control over, that's a much more interesting and emotionally stimulating story to follow. Hell, even listening to Roxas' theme conveys the tragedy behind him, and makes you sympathize with his sadness, whereas Sora rarely evokes any feelings other than the familiar warmth of friendship, which to be frank Roxas did better a better job of in his KH2 intro with Hayner, Pence, and Olette.
+kiwitowel I don't find Roxas as appealing as everyone else, In my honest opinion he's kind of overrated, because of the over reliance on his sob story. He's not bad, I just find him too whiny and edgy. Also, his overexposure's getting pretty annoying. Still love his theme though
David Timmer He trying his best thought.
+kiwitowel That is not true at all. Sora isn't always happy, for example, you can see how broken he was when Riku took his Keyblade and Donald and Goofy left him to follow Riku, you can see how jealous and sad he was, he even said it himself.
roxas is like: "FEEL MY FEELZ SORA"
that moment when you realise this is Roxas tryin'a wake him up...
I'm not crying, you're crying.
Isn’t it Riku trying to wake him up?
*See's Xion*
"Wait what? Oh god just fight the feels!"
*See's Roxas, and hears theme play*
"WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS TO ME TETSUYA NOMURA?!?"
*Sora tells Roxas that he's his own person*
"Ok, i've just decided that Sora is my new favorite person ever. (If he wasn't already)"
His character theme music doesn't really help 💔💔😭😭😭 where did this bowl of onions come from? Get them away from me! 💔
Roxas: Feel my feels, sora.
Sora: Roxas, pls.
Seeing the tear on his face when he saw Xion broke my heart cause it was basically Roxas crying over seeing one of his best friends again
XIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON!!!!!
To see that the Roxas in Sora still treasured his time with Xion somewhere within his heart, although that he had already forgotten her, and cries is just.... *heartCRUSHing.* SquareEnix, *WHY!?*
Wing Y its plot revealing emotions. Both sad and crazy once you connect the dots.
The music is what killed me when that was happening, speaking of which. What's the name of that music that was playing when he saw Xion?
Lolol that moment when Sora is being mind fucked and Roxas is just smiling XD
Sora could have actually died during that. That would not have ended well
@@Leonan_Brin And yet Roxas is still there. One would wonder how he's able to endure everything he went through.
Am i the only one who kinda teared up when xion appeared?
Likewise....
Pretty sure my room flooded from all the tears.
I cried when I saw her look down when Sora didn't recognize her. It was almost like there was hope. And then sora is like "who are you?" And Xion just looks down.
ForbiddenMemories XIV Only Roxas has the memories of his time with Xion. Sora has his own memories and he never encountered her until this point of the game or atleast see Roxas' memories.
All your hearts will be eased when she returns in KH 3! :D
the moment Sora shed that single tear for Xion made me wonder.
Was it Roxas crying because a part of him remembers Xion and everything they went through, including him being forced to kill her.
OR
Is it Xion's pain, for the reminder that nobody remembers her.
+okami I'm pretty sure Roxas was crying inside Sora, another instance is Sora leaving Twilight Town for his next adventure. Sora shed a tear when he had to say goodbye to the Twilight Town gang, because Roxas was the one who didn't wanna say goodbye to them. Because Sora doesn't know Xion due to him being asleep to regain his memories.
Yes.
I don't like it when people think of Sora as a shallow and plain character. Sure, he's one of the few characters who haven't suffered a lot, but in this game, he's finally able to see things he was completely unaware and oblivious of about the people connected to him. He starts realizing about all he didn't know, that's why he begins chasing dreams and ends up way too caught up in them.
Yeah, though he was also a huge dumbass in this game and is still beyond trusting. Hopefully he learns to recognise what the players do and not act like he's got a mental deficiency in KH3. Aside from Chain of memories, Sora hasn't shown a lot of personal investment in defeating the villain, which I think is what bothers people most. It doesn't help that his character is also rather simplistic. Anyway, apparently Sora is supposed to be more of leader in KH3 so mabye that stuff will improve.
Not implying he's the deepest character in the series, or that he's gone though a lot of growth and struggle as other characters, just saying he's not shallow. I know they kinda screwed it him up in this game, and hoping they improve its character complexity and matureness in KH3
kioo786 The problem is that Sora's character completed it's arc in KH1 because Nomura wasn't sure if there would ever be a sequel, which is why you see a lot of weird retcons in later parts in the series (Ansem's identity/multiple keyblades). I think it works out because Sora is such a good person that it's pleasant to be around him and see him be a steadfastly moral and kindhearted character. That usually leads to boring characters, but it somehow works for Sora in my opinion.
I think Sora is meant to represent the light in everyone's heart, which he does to a fault. He's easily exploitable because he believes the best of people, such is his character.
Which is why in this game, I finally start liking Sora's character more.
Xion always makes me cry!!!
6:24 I'm glad Sora said that
Epurope Me too.
+Epurope Roxas' answer: Sora,see? That's why it has to be you.
Me: Shoot. O.O
Absolute feels hitter to all the Roxas fans... ;3;
AngeliqueNade XD
+Epurope everyone that plays 358/2 days could feel anger for Sora in someway. But, now, this seems to relieve all of it.
Well played Square Enix... Well Played...
Uhm. Sora started crying at xion because Roxas memories are inside him.
Sora is unaware but deep inside he owns the memories of his nobody and the pain that he was put through.
Think about that. Sounds really powerful to me
Deep inside him is Xion's memories and the pain she went through, and Roxas' memories and pain was there, until he met Roxas in this little scenario and Roxas held his hands .. and transferred all of his memories and pain.
I wonder - why does Sora's appearance fluctuate between KH1 look & KH2 ?
Seeing Sora not recognize Xion at all just broke my heart in two because I knew what she gave up for him. I mean, it makes sense that he didn't know her, but it didn't make the revelation any less painful. :(
True I hear ya
If he remembered her, her entire story arc would have meant nothing. the ending of Days is all about Xion's sacrifice, they can't just invalidate that.
I know. You have a very good point. Still really sad though. I feel so bad for her.
nico641 he wouldn't have remembered her anyway, they've never met. The fact that *spoiler*
Riku didn't recognise her later on is truly heart breaking.
Raey Axan I feel you... I just finished watching the HD cutscenes of KH 358/2 from the 1.5 remix. That was too damn sad... not only is she gone, but she is forgotten by everyone, even the people she sacrificed herself for.
Roxas: sora will you mary me?
Sora: oh my its all hapening so fast.
XD
I fangirled when Roxas took Soras hand lol anyone?
Luis Barajas Pulls out kairi's charm*
Sora: "Get Real"
XD
XD YES! I ship them! Though i'm more SORIKU. BUT YES! *claps*
The League of Idiotic Gamers yes XD
6:32 I kinda think that Sora telling Roxas that he deserves to be his own person is a way of foreshadowing that Roxas will somehow end up being separated from Sora. Or maybe when Sora gives Ventus back his heart, Ven will have all of Roxas's memories.
Roxas's sacrifice would feel cheap if he were to return. Next you'd have people asking for Axel to separate from Lea and Namine from Kairi
Sjono But Lea is technicly still Axel he is the exact same person
Brian04510 No, Naminé is Kairi's Nobody. She was created during the fall of Destiny Islands when Kairi's heart left her body and went into Sora. She is made of a portion of Sora's body and soul, and due to the uniqueness of her creation from other nobodies, Naminé was born with the ability to affect the memories of Sora and those close to him.
paul cedeno You're right, Axel lives on as a complete being now that he has reawakened as Lea. And since he has retained all of his memories of his time as Axel, it is not truly accurate to say that Axel is gone.
***** Brian04510 is right. Xion is a replica/clone of Sora, and she is created from his memories. Her appearance changes based on how people view her, but her main appearance is a result of Sora's memories and feelings of Kairi.
sora better mention how ventus looks like roxas once they meet on kh3 i s2g
you have to switch it around how roxas looks like ventus
+X-Zavion Rivera no, no he doesn't because in that sentence sora is asking there for he would put roxas first
and how vanitas looks like sora?
Well it wasn't Sora who mentioned it ;)
@@ScottvsWild It’s because he knows Roxas more. He’s “closer” to him, also canonically, Ven is first, BBS is 10 years before KH I and technically 11 years or 11 years and something months before Kingdom Hearts 358/2 and definitely KH II. But either way, Roxas was still created at the end of KH, so the difference is still 10 years, if we don’t go by the games’ release times and think about the elapsed time in the games.
I actually cried when sora said *who are you* to xion
(Spoiler warning) I love that Re:Coded, Data Roxas was warning Data Sora about carrying a "hurt" in his heart (the pain of those who are connected with Sora like Roxas/Ven/Xion) and, in general, being a VERY nice guy because it would drag Sora into darkness if he holds onto the hurt. Hence, Sora almost becoming the 13th dark vessel for Xehanort because Sora kept chasing these images in his heart. Sora is amazing for still holding onto the hurt and willing to help no matter what!
And thecnically, if we try to compare to common facts, that's not so bad written... that's even pretty accurate. We must admit that Sora, if it doesn't sound to pejorative, is a "teenager"... a young man growing to become a man. But his heart is yet the one of a child, carring a great part of innoncence, dreams, good will, ect... therefore, he face these darkness, but he doesn't have the hindsight to bare their weight.
We all face these "darkness" under many shapes : wrath, sadness, hurt... the older we become, the more we win in hindsight to face them. Not that it become more easy, but we can accept these darkness as part of the life, as a piece of "All". But when we are young, unexperimented, we're much more sensible to them... As child, they are unknow to us ( well... most of the time ). But... this moment that Sora lives, the one that change us from a child to an adult, the balance become harder than ever. And the weight of these feelings become heavier, painful...
Which is maybe why he didn't recieved the mark of master, at the oposit of Riku : not because he recieved by Terra the might to carry a keyblade, back in the days... but because he found the balance between dark and light during his journey.
That moment when you hear Jesse McCartney's voice as Roxas again and you still fangirl.
i hope that in kh3 roxas is a playable character or a party member
I just hope he gets a decent ending, tbh.
Kevin Tierney He already did, His beginning...Wasn't that great. We all know that Roxas is Soras nobody. Which means he was a part of sora, a connection that they share. Well Roxas made a promise to Namine, Just like what happened to sora and kairi, He promised he will see her again soon. But now both gone and despaired back to there proper place. Everytime Sora and Kairi are together Roxas and Namine are too. This may not be the best ending to Roxas and his back story, But its the only one he has..Though i would wish Roxas will be himself in Kingdom Hearts 3.
Honestly, I'm pretty sure everything has been set up for Roxas to reunite with Xion and Lea so that they can all be their own people again in KH3. That'll be their true ending
Can I be honest... I think it's not gonna happen... because I think that you can maybe play as the seven guardians... maybe and I don't think that they would make Roxas an long time party member... maybe a short time like in KH2 but not for well, uhm long(I love to repeat myself) But I satisfied withe ventus, lea and co. to be playable characters/party members( but these are just my assumptions so, pls don't hate me)
Jendeni 1498 So you're saying that you don't think Roxas or Xion will come back? I sort of understand why you would think that but to be honest it seems sort of ridiculous that they wouldnt come back to me since every KH3 hype game(BBS, re:coded, DDD) has had Roxas and Xion cameos in them with a little nudge and a wink saying "they deserve to be their own people", and DDD's ending straight out proclaiming to the world via Ansem that Sora needs to "SAVE THESE PEOPLE" with the data that he has hidden inside of his heart. (plus Roxas made a cameo in DDD's cinematic opening helping Sora out fighting xehanort) Yes, it's rather clear that neither of them will be a guardian of light (although Roxas has potential to be because of DDD's OP). But im 99.999999999% that they'll return in KH3 and will become their own people because Sora will save them, along with Ventus, Namine, Aqua, Terra, and Ansem.
So... while I haven't played the games past KH2... I already love Xion as a character. Her story is a tragic, yet noble one... I won't give it all away.
This scene though... it's very poignant. Xion could tell Sora who she is, what she is, what she's done and sacrificed... but it's more important that Sora deliver his message to the real Namine, the real Roxas. It's more important that Sora move on, then let her stop him. I suppose she couldn't help but see him once, which is why he met her here. So she runs away without a word... Xion knows Sora is needed, and that this is how she can best help him.
That dosn't really make sense.
7:03 I can imagine Roxas saying in his mind, "Take all my sadness, vich!"
Oh Roxas, your whole story just still breaks my heart to this day. And Sora supporting you like that, the feels...
I hope KHIII sets everything right for you, so much.
That Roxas Part, Almost Made Me Cry T.T, no...no im not crying theres just an onion by my screen,
When this part came up in the game, I actually had to put it down for a while. At 1:16 where Xion shows up... My ex-girlfriend looked a lot like her. Not just that, but she was a Kingdom Hearts fan as well and heavily identified with Xion. After she dumped me, I could barely stand to play 358/2 Days anymore. I knew not that she would make a comeback in Dream Drop Distance. When she showed up... In Sora's brief pause... All the emotions came rushing back.
"xion shouldn't come back because it'd ruin her sacrifice!" the same could be said for literally every other character that has died/disappeared/wotever (aqua, ven, terra, axel, etc). it COULD ruin it, sure, but if they write and execute it the right way, it'd be incredible. and i personally would love to see the clocktower trio together again.
Sora can save people
What I want to see is Ventus meeting Roxas in Sora's heart.... That would be... entertaining.
They'd tell each other to "Get Real"
Brian04510 What? Have YOU played Birth By Sleep? Roxas is NOT Ventus at the end of bbs Ventus' heart went to Sora and when Sora stabbed himself with the keyblade of hearts in KH1, Roxas was born in Twilight town. Roxas looks like Ventus because when Sora stabbed himself Ven's heart went to Roxas. They are not the same person.
Roxas is Sora's nobody and being a nobody he doesn't have a heart or (In Roxas' case) wasn't suppose to have a heart. Because of Ven's heart going to Roxas it affected his appearance otherwise Roxas would have looked like Sora. "After Ventus' first cameo, Nomura had to state that both of them are different characters, and the reason for such connection would be revealed in Birth by Sleep."
Sjono holy fuckk hahahaha
***** can we just say that Roxas is Ven's nobody?
i hope that roxas xion an axel / lea will be together again
no wtf XD axels true name is lea . spoken like lee . otherwise his name would be oxel ^^
hate to break it to you. but Xion.....is gone forever. she was a mistake. she never should have happened. thats y 358/2 days is so sad. because we have never lost anyone from the story forever.
Branden Wright No she's not. They will all be back. Lea made a promise.
thank god
Roxas inside of Sora sheds a tear for Xion, which means he remembers her, so all is not lost. If memories of her still exist there is still hope, she is not forgotten.
I honestly think Roxas' voice actor is way better than Sora ' voice actor.
*****
Roxas: Sora, see? That's why it has to be you
*Roxas grabs Sora's hands and shows him the vision of all the people*
Roxas: Sora, I don't want another pretty face, I don't want just anyone to hold, I don't want my love to go to waste...I want you and your beautiful soul......................................................to defeat the heartless.
*Sora comes out of the trance, only to see that no one is there*
Sora: Not again......I hope those aren't dead people
(LOL sorry I couldn't resist ;p)
***** haley also does vanitas
SlyKuroMC why does that feel like foreshadow for KH3??!!
Underestimated Usually there was nowhere here stating of kh3 XD the only thing stated was actors of the series itself :P since the left out vanitas i just had to mention it
SlyKuroMC that's not what I mean... I just thought of something that might actually possibly happen when I read the comment
Does anybody know if Jesse McCartney still voices Roxas?
He does. He just changes his voice tones sometimes. Like how the voice actor of Sora SERIOUSLY changed his over the games.
I never understood why Sora's actor did that. Is that because of Sora's age in the different games? Because I liked it in KH 2 but in 3D it's meh
Young Dice It's because he went through puberty,he didn't change his voice on purpose
Young Dice He's like 26 now...! The whole time when I borrow my friends 3ds I kept on cringing everytime Sora spoke. I guess I got so used to his 18 year old voice in KH2....
Well, he was actually 15 in KH2...
I like how people say roxas and sora are the same, when they are completly different. The only thing i see them having in common is the urge to deny what someone is saying when its actually pretty important
I hope in KH 3 they let Haley use an older voice for Sora, it's not his fault he can't really pull off the KH 2 one anymore, he's just not a kid anymore. But him as Vanitas in BBS proves without a doubt that he can still act just fine, he was awesome in that game. Seriously just let him do a slightly less sinister Vanitas voice for Sora and it should work great. Plus him having a deeper more mature voice would fit with what we know about how Sora is going to behave in 3.
Yes an older voice for Sora is much needed. Ever since Re:Com its been off putting to hear the mature Osment voice the younger incarnation. Finally Sora will get the justice he deserves
At 7:01 Sora is splooging himself while Roxas smiles and gives him a handy
It's broke my heart when Sora was crying when he saw Xion and didn't know why ;(
Sora sees dead people?
Cole H I... think that was the joke...
Sjono Sora: I see nobodies.
+dayan101980 that's the joke...
Yeah like I totally get the reference, not like I made an obvious joke
+dayan101980 Haley Joel osment
When I saw Xion I just snapped and got all teary,then roxas had to come along and make things even sadder AND then terra,Aqua and Ven had to join in the waterworks party aswell. SquareEnix sure do know how to host a crying party gosh!
Jesse McCartney should get an award for best voice actor cause he was able to make Roxas have the same cool emo voice since Kingdom Hearts 2
I hope to God xion doesn't physically come back in Kh3, it would ruin her whole sacrifice. What I do want is for Sora to get keyblade armor, and I want that to be xion's final form from Days. That would be the perfect way for her to "come back."
+DarkStorm230 I'm hoping she somehow does and it works T^T I love that she was willing to sacrifice herself but its just too sad for her to become my favorite character and then disappear in the same game she was introduced in.
It'd be great if they somehow came up with a good reason for Xion coming back, since no one even remembers her
But that's the thing, her sacrifice is only sad because she stayed gone, and she stayed dead. I want her to come back in spirit tho
Didn't Axel come back as Lea though in 3D? I never played the game myself though, only from what my friend told me, and he was completely destroyed too, heartless and nobody alike. Xion only had Sora's memory taken from her, basically joining him. It's not impossible for her to come back, but I'd like a really good reason for it
Yeah Axel was revived as Lea, practically the entire organization was revived as their original selves. It's not impossible and it's been hinted at, but I'd personally prefer if Xion didn't come back (or at least if she does, they better do it right lol)
+DarkStorm230
Exactly, I want them to do it right since there is a possibility, but at the same time it's a really small possibility since all memory of her was taken apart and returned to Sora. Basically since she was only made through Sora's memories and the Organization's puppet, they'd need a miracle to bring her back.
He is inside of a dream. The red clothes you see him wearing during the gameplay segments are the clothes he wears into the dream and what you see him in throughout the majority of the game. The black clothes is his outfit from KH2 which is what his subconscious draws his appearance back to in the cut scenes during this section of the game as that is what he looked like when he visited The World That Never Was before it became locked in its dream-state.
it possibility Xion,Roxas,Namine are going to fight alongside with Sora and the 3 Guardians of light from birth by sleep are going to fight in KH3....Hell Yaa EPIC KEYBLADE WAR!!!!!!!
This is one of the cut scenes that I consider the best overall the kingdom hearts games
Roxas smiles as he gives sora brain trama... 6:58.
not to lie i'm pretty sure he enjoyed making sora sad
beserker goku the face said it all
riku in the background: don't chase the dreams sora!
sora: LET'S CHASE SOME MORE DREAMS!
You know, I often think about how "I wish I had that strong pure heart. Something that could restore broken people." Yet, I don't believe people can have corrupted hearts. By my own logic, I should have it. I can tell I've become immune to Darkness. It really seems the thing I struggle with is actually nothingness. The void. How I can tell nothing is there when it should be. I'm a comic book writer but sometimes I can just feel some of my characters grasping onto life through my imagination. Like they want to be whole and to exist. I think they have every right too. Doesn't everyone have the right to exist?
I know how you feel. Every chracter is apart of me fighting with my own darkness and being saved by the light shone through the chracters that are within me. Cheering me on.
genius
They do. I write fantasty. And right now it's very dark in my story. But everyone in the end is saved by this chracters light and love. All the chracters come to life. you can feel their joy, happiness. sadness and pain. And its like they're your babies. Darkness and Light. One cannot exsist without the other. The ones caught inbetween are Shadows. But even Shadows deserves to become one or the other
ah, the connections of the heart so strong even what we know as reality becomes nothing more then a small wall to climb.
I'm 17..I too have done some writing just to be able to use my imagination. The characters I've created...somehow it's kinda strange. It's like knowing a character better than it knows itself, while it doesn't even exist.
7:00 I can't help but laugh every time I see this scene. It looks like Sora is jizzing in the hands of Roxas.
Roxas and dem scary eyes.
Scary? More like mesmerizing. I love those eyes!
7:00-7:02 It looks like Sora is in pain while Roxas face is all like "I like to watch you suffer" omg lol
"Sora, see? That's why it has to be you. " noo roxaas 😭(this is what I do when I'm supposed to be studying)
hmm maybe Sora still ended up falling into the darkness because it was his first real time having to actually deal with his own darkness. That pure aspect of himself was at the end of the day a naive way to avoid pain. Roxas is like the backside of his heart, his other side of the coin. Can't hide from your self no matter how optimistic you may be.
Deep and profound. What I was thinking, too, about Sora.
Why do I always find myself crying whenever Roxas and Sora engage in a conversation?
Marco Vidal Onion ninjas dude there always there in the sad kingdom hearts cutscenes
Such a powerful conversation between him and Roxas. They have such a complicated relationship and yet, there's a lot of understanding between the two of them too.
Funny how everyone hates it how Roxas was to give up his own existence to restore Sora's, even though it wasn't really Sora's fault in the first place
And yet Sora agrees all too well with the fandom about Roxas being his own person, even if Roxas accepts himself as a part of Sora.
Abigdummy4life Nobodies act as their originals do. Yet Roxas seems to display his own personality. It hasn't been really explained how powerful nobodies react when they are created. Only Roxas' has been shown and he had no memories or reason to exist, he was just a blank slate. He should have probably been receiving memories from Sora, as axel did from his original lea, but since the rare predicament of Sora bringing himself back occured, this left him blank which allowed him to create his own path along with the organization. Nothing like Roxas has happened, so chances are he really is his own person. The memories and pieces that roxas took from sora are already back, all that is left is what roxas created, which is why Sora probably still sees him deep inside himself. Those pieces aren't his, just like the parts Xion, Ventus and Namine left behind.
1:26 That same tear... the same teal roxas had when she did a die.
KYAAAAAAAAAH ROXAS
Well look who's back ;)
I want roxas, namine, xion and axel in KH3....
At 5:52, I like how Roxas just shakes his head.
LOL THEY NIGGA BREATHING HARD AS HELL IN THE BACKGROUND 😂😂💀
Oh crap... a tear ran down my face the same time as Sora when I saw Xion..... That just brought back horrible memories!!!
6:31 I dispised sora for making Roxas Disapear up until he said that...and now I completely forgive him.......
Roxas didn't disapear he became whole.
Ik but still
That "This could have been the other way around." line actually really got me thinking. I'd never considered what happens to a nobody and a heartless, as individuals, when they rejoined. Or at least, Roxas and Sora, since they both displayed strong individual traits.
I guess that really does go to show how much Roxas gave up, because there wasn't any struggle for existence. D:
Okay so Sora cry when he saw Xion but it wasn't actually Sora it was Roxas who cry when he saw her because both Sora and Roxas share the same feel? Correct me if I'm wrong but about Ven, I guess that's the reason why Sora can wield a keyblade.
Yes, Sora was never meant to even have the Keyblade. The only reason he can wield one is because of Ventus.
yinyang452 So that's why Riku is jealous of Sora? Well that might explain a lot. O.O
Well yeah, Since Riku is actually the only one originally from Destiny Islands that is SUPPPOSED to have one.
yinyang452 While Ven is the only reason Sora could initially wield a Keyblade, it's obvious he's its wielder for a reason when he takes it back from Riku. Aqua wouldn't used the Keyblade Inheritance Ceremony on him, if he wasn't for Riku, for a reason, you know~
Uh, Terra performed the Inheritance Ceremony with Riku. Aqua is why Kairi can use a keyblade. While Ven is why both Axel, and Sora can use one.
7:00 -- when you're playing Days and the feels hit
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I began to mod it for the sake of doing it, I got Roxas's Oathkeeper damage and compared that to his Oblivion damage, I swear the difference so I gave a huge 60% buff to his damage while in Duel Wield. It felt right to do that because two key blades should supposedly do more damage.
What does Roxas mean with "This could have been the other way arround. But it really has to be you."? And why is Sora getting younger, while he is seeing Roxas' memories?
Maybe because Sora is now whole, thus giving him his former appearance back?
He means that he never had to go back to Sora. He could have done everything Sora did but due to everyones hearts being connected to Sora's it really did have to be Sora instead. He then gives Sora all of his memories so that Sora truly understands the sacrifice he had to make
Whenever Sora's in the sleeping worlds, his outfit changes. It's how the new Org. keep track of him. (That X on his shirt) I think he's dreaming whenever he has that red outfit on, which would make sense since Roxas told him he wasn't dreaming when he had his KH2 outfit on.
And that quote means that it could've been Sora who had to disappear, instead of him. Roxas could've been the hero, but "it really has" to be Sora since they're just too different. Sora's personality makes him capable of saving everyone.
birnbachn considering thier fight in kingdom hearts 2 was a mental struggle...he means that when they became whole roxas could have been the dominant part...but it had to be sora because of all the hearts connected to his.
Well said. It is an interesting paradox and a great example of how appearances can be deceiving. While redemption should exist for those that seek it, some don't even have that option, like Xion. =(
it really could be the other way around
I do like this scene. It shows Sora the unintentioned sadness he has brought to others - forgetting his promise to Namine, making everyone forget Xion existed, pretty much everything Roxas went through. Thankfully he is too nice to blame anyone else, and wants to save everyone.
When xehanort split ventus' heart wasn't it sora's heart that mended Ventus his heart so that he would have the ability to use a keyblade without a dark half and with that said technically wasn't it Sora that initially gave ventus the power to use the keyblade
Aaron Knight nah,he was using the key blade before he got his heart split.
Jalen Cunningham
he was but his heart became to fracture to even use it which is why in the beginning of the game he asks or to lend him part of his heart after that he was able to use the keyblade again
They said in 'Chain of Memories' that memories are never lost, only the chains connecting them are broken. When chains are built memories get reconnected. *cough* Xion *cough*
Watch this video, it made more scene to me and maybe to others who haven't seen this. Seems long but worth knowing some things tht you might not know. Like why Vanitas looks so much like Sora, and why Sora's nobody looks like Ven for example. plus who's hearts are still connected to Sora, and wat might happen to Ven at the end of Birth by Sleep, why his heart went to Sora once again.
/watch?v=xm-NoyqzGkY
This should have over a million views already.
they need to have aqua back
Vanitas was created long before Ventus "met" Sora. Vanitas was pulled from Ven by Master Xehanort when Ven was unable to pursue Xehanorts harsh training. This then shattered Ven's heart and Xehanort took Ven to Destiny Islands to dispose of him. That was where Ventus encountered a voice that helped him heal his heart. That voice was Sora's heart calling out to Ven's heart for the first time. The fact that Vanitas, who was created before that, resembles Sora, means that...
It's not the end for Roxas he will be back
You damn right
@ knightshousegames: LMFAO xD The music playing makes it even more funny.
Sora changes clothes for the cutscenes. He must be a vain guy.
SPOILER ALERT
Sora actually changed clothes because, the clothes he was wearing when Roxas showed up are his original clothes, so he wears them when he sees the dreams.
The red ones are set ups by the real Organization XIII so they could track where Sora was.
kingdomgirl949
What are you saying they put RFID trackers in his cloths?
Sora Keyblade , they're tracking him through the Recusant's Sigil (the 'X') on his chest.
anthoseba I just looked up the Recusant's Sigil aka ("Mark of heresy") is a symbol designed by Xehanort to represent the rejection of a Nobody from his original persona. I find it strange that what Xehanort finds heretical is a symbol for Christ aka the x symbol or insignia.
I was actually happiest to see Namine and Roxas again....especially Roxas, I fangirled so hard haha!!
Is haley Joel Still diving soras voice in this one?
riku may have the mark of mastery but sora is stronger because his strength is all his friends not just the control and no fear of darknes it,s because sora fears darknes he is stronger then riku because it takes more courage to to throw your heart into darknes what sora did in kh1 then to go to sleep in darknes catch my drift
What song is playing in the background at 6:07
I think it is Roxa's theme from KH2
I don't know
type in Roxas them in search on youtube?
its Roxas theme.
Is it bad for me to say that I don't find Xion to be a very interesting character?..............
Me when I saw this O_O
Were you able to read the Manga? There's a lot more focus on her, things you never got to see.
*record scratches*
Wait... What? So, your telling me that there's a manga for Kingdom Hearts? I NEVER KNEW ABOUT THIS... Well then... I'm gonna read some manga now :D
RedCell114 Yes. So far, there's a manga for Kingdom Hearts, Kingdom Hearts II, Chain of Memories, and 358/2 Days.
I think the point of Xion was to be more symbolic of a character. An example as to how far Xehanort is willing to go to achieve his goals.
She was introduced as someone you needed to protect, a burden. She was distant but continued to grow on you. At the end you find out she's just a tool, a means to an end, a Nothing. Hers is an existence of suffering. She came from nothing, found everything and was them forced to try and destroy all of it.
It's a great way to make you feel more anger at the main Antagonist. Xehanort is one of my favorite video game villains of all time, he has so much back story and you have so many justifiable reasons to hate him.
will the flowmotion mechanic be in kh3? hope so...
First kingdom hearts game I played was Roxas's story. Roxas's story was filled with emotion and was beautiful. Fuck sora, I want more roxas!
True asf and me too my first was Days
+AZ “AzureRaver” ER 358/2 was also the first kh that I played, but you don't know a sad story until you play kingdom hearts birth by sleep. don't read this wrong, I'm not saying 358 wasn't sad.
+The biggest nobody of them all well, when there's tragedy in KHs saga, they are real tragedies. Days was sad as hell. BBS too.
re coded was my fist game
No problem at all man :) always happy to help out lol im like a freak with kh thats why i know a lot , maybe not everything but yeah its such a deep story line and theres so much to it, thats what makes it such an amazing game :)
@Katie Ngo yes that was roxas crying and roxas remember because after he died he gained all of soras memories
In an interview with Tetsuya Nomura as well as various novelizations of the game, it is revealed that this similarity is due to Sora's heart connecting with Ventus near the beginning of the game, and had anyone else connected with Ventus's heart, Vanitas would look like that person. His appearance prior to Ventus's connection with Sora
The sora, ven, vanitas, roxas issue was already fully explained in great detail to end the confusion before the games were even released on English.
As far as Xion, just go to Wikipedia. But for the short version, she is a Replica created to hold some of Sora's memories, preventing his awakening. She became one of Roxas' best friends but she knew that Sora had to wake up so she forced Roxas to kill her. This made everyone forget her, but the times she spent with Roxas wouldn't just vanish, so they are inside Sora.
The best way to explain the Roxas/Ven thing is that Roxas was essentially using Ventus' heart (which was asleep) w/o knowing it to compensate for of his own (Roxas') missing heart until he could A) grow a replacement or B) regain his true heart, ie Sora. However a 3rd scenario occurred because of the existence of Xion who was inhibiting their connection. Ultimately Roxas defeated/absorbed her & all 3 eventually rejoined with Sora.
When Sora said Roxas deserved to be his own person, I broke down. Roxas has been through so much! He's awesome, too. I hope he gets to be his own person soon.
SO MANY FEELS ;^;
Plus its implied that the reason that she took the form she did is because of Roxas' (or Ventus if you want to call him that) memories of Aqua. So to Roxas she is much greater than just a replica of Sora, she took on her own form because of Roxas' influence (it is mentioned that she did not have a unique face, voice, etc when she first joined the organization) and became her own character. Aside from that, shes also the reason Roxas left the organization and why he has 2 keyblades.
i just want to ask one simple question does sora and riku have glide and super glide reply please
I already said all of that multiple times. As to the Vanitas face thing Nomura already confirmed that Vantias would have looked just like Ven under the helmet up until the point that Sora merged with and repaired Ven's heart station which is when his appearance changed to match Sora's.
i like all the characters, they all served a purpose and gave more emotion and meaning to the strory line.
Yeah I think it's Xion too, all the mannerisms of the "Roxas" were Xions. :) The way he moved was like how Xion moves.