Thanks for the solid explanation as well as slowing the footage down to best show us how to do this. Unfortunately my Cornelius is only purple so not nearly high enough but once I get him to Orange I may attempt this at the 140 or 150 levels to see if I can accomplish a similar
I will be testing your team this week for fun on some of the accounts I attack on, but I think the variant I use is slightly better since it has 2 armor buffs.
Have you done the math or calculations to see who is better to use, Nebula or Jet? With Nebula's special skills, she will give big physical attack boosts from her artifact weapon, and then also 4th skill (if you get lucky and the boost is given to Sebastian), and then a small boost from the first skill (from her Ascenscion skill). All of the physical attack boosts will help boost the 2nd and 3rd special skills of Sebastian. For example, the 4th skill of Nebula is "equilibrium", and mine gives about 100,000 (I am using close numbers to make the math easy) temporary physical attack boost (which would go to Sebastian or Isaac). My artifact weapon for Nebula gives over 21,000 physical attack boost. So if they happen at the same time, and if Sebastian's second skill is going off (at the right time when Cornelius/Albus attack), then the chance for a critical hit goes from 121% chance to a 241% chance. (Physical attack of Sebastian is 79k right now. 79k + 121k = 200k. 200,000 *.001 + 41 = 241% critical hit chance). The same goes for boosting Sebastian's 3rd skill. I currently get 122% extra pure damage for his 3rd skill. If I add that 121k physical attack boost, then I get a 266% increase in pure damage. And then Jet just adds a critical hit chance to the whole team for the fight. He doesn't boost physical attack at all, so the Cornelius ultimate skill damage will be much less, right?
Проделали ли вы математические расчеты или расчеты, чтобы понять, кого лучше использовать: Nebula или Jet? Благодаря особым навыкам Небулы она даст большое усиление физической атаки от своего артефактного оружия, а затем также 4-е умение (если вам повезет и усиление будет передано Себастьяну), а затем небольшое усиление от первого умения (от ее умения Вознесения). ). Все усиления физической атаки помогут усилить 2-й и 3-й специальные навыки Себастьяна. Например, 4-й навык Небулы - «Равновесие», а мой дает около 100 000 (я использую близкие числа, чтобы упростить расчеты) временного усиления физической атаки (которое досталось бы Себастьяну или Исааку). Мое артефактное оружие для Небулы дает более 21 000 усиления физической атаки. Таким образом, если они происходят одновременно и если второй навык Себастьяна срабатывает (в нужный момент, когда Корнелиус/Альбус атакуют), то вероятность критического удара увеличивается с 121% до 241%. (Физическая атака Себастьяна сейчас составляет 79 тысяч. 79 тысяч + 121 тысяч = 200 тысяч. 200 000 *.001 + 41 = 241% шанс критического удара). То же самое касается и повышения третьего навыка Себастьяна. В настоящее время я получаю 122% дополнительного чистого урона от его третьего навыка. Если я добавлю усиление физической атаки на 121 тыс., то чистый урон увеличится на 266%. А потом Джет просто добавляет шанс критического удара всей команде на бой. Он вообще не усиливает физическую атаку, поэтому урон от предельного умения Корнелиуса будет намного меньше, верно?
I don’t test, I have 0 lvl jet and last 5 week I just pushed my Corny coz he was also very weak. You ~right in your calculation. My nebula’s art buff is 33,5k so it’s a little more chance. About Jet you also right, jet won’t buff damage and then need max Corny to him and anyway he will make less damage from seb+albus. What about crit chance - I don’t know how it’s work with %. I just know if I will have 75k crit chance (13.9k*2 from seb) * ~205-245% - then I will have 50% for crit. If I will have jet and have 13.9k*2*2000-3000%from jet will it be much more or it will be just 70% for crit? So need to calculate not only max dmg, but also avr and chance for crit. And some more chance like to lose hero or make to much damage to spheres before getting buff.
Wondering of what skins should I use in Issac, Martha, Nebula, Corenlius for the Osh battle (150 or 160)?? And what artifacts/gylphs, etc should I maxed out on??
Hi Deda i watched your other video about using solo lian against ish/dante teams and i'm wondering how much health she has exactly because i want to build her like yours?!!
Are you quite sure Nebula has a place here ? 1. She never boosts Cornelius with Equilibrium 2. She boosts Sebastian, so a team receives extra crit hit boost from his Battle Song skill, further boosted by Nebula's Equilibrium, BUT only heroes that already have crit hit stat. Cornelius has none, even on max settings. You sure that Sebastian's 1st artifact, giving team crit hit, counts ? Neb could boost Cornelius' ults in another way: If Corny's ult formula was based on ph atk (Neb boosts ph with 1st artifact). But instead, it's mag atk. I might be entirely wrong, I'm a newbie. But seen a setup with Neb replaced with Jet, so sth might be going up. Or ppl like to have more reliable crit hit, chance.
Yes, nebula works here good and boost seb realy much. Cornelius got crit stat with sebastian artefact bonus. And then Sebastian skills also boost this stats. For me it seems nebula have good boost for crit chance and also boost crit damage, so that's why need just 1 crit to kill full boss. Jet team can't kill full boss with 1 crit.
Great job Deda! I'm wondering if boss health should be taken into consideration when doing the hit? For instance, if you start at 50% boss health, beat first boss in 1min of time, would things be optimal on the 2nd boss when he pops to have a chance at doing a second hit like the first one. Essentially I'm wondering how boss health impacts the timing of getting the armor pen and crit buffs.
you got good question. Boss health doesn't matter for crit chance. but i think the best way is to start from ~full boss health, coz if albus or Corny will shoot for 500mil(1 attack) and boss got only 200mil health - you will lose your 300mil damage. New boss will come, but you won't hit him for this 300 mil damage.
привет, супер. сам ответил на свой вопрос, 1,4 наверное можно набрать за 2 ульты. раньше помню советовали айзеку не качать защиту от магии. это устаревший совет? заранее благодарен за ответ)
Not really. It appears you have to time Albus and Cornelius. You launch Cornelius's ult, and then right after, you use Albus's skill. If Cornelius's shot makes a critical hit, then there will be pure damage. That's what gives a huge boost to Albus's damage. Additionally, he is trying to time it so that Isaac's ult'ing a lot (each time with armor penetration boost), and then ult'ing Sebastian (for a critical hit boost) and Nebula too for attack boost. If you play in auto mode, you will just be completely dependent on everything happening at the right time, and your chances are really low to get the Cornelius/Albus thing and crit boosts all timed at the right moment.
@@dedaherowars basically 2 weeks ago was last time I ran jhu/Nebula and they did 51.3mil damage(best damage j did so far at that time) on 140 osh/entire team is orange 3,week later I ran cornelius/Jet on manual and they have done 58.6 mil. Damage(Cornelius was only orange), this week they did 60.4 mil. Damage(Cornelius went to orange +1)
Обманщик! Атаковал босса 150 уровня, со 160 так не получится.... И даже на видео спалился, что 160 живой и у него только 600м уроня снято всей Гильдией...😂😂😂
Thanks for the solid explanation as well as slowing the footage down to best show us how to do this. Unfortunately my Cornelius is only purple so not nearly high enough but once I get him to Orange I may attempt this at the 140 or 150 levels to see if I can accomplish a similar
other lvls you can use other teams and setups.
I will be testing your team this week for fun on some of the accounts I attack on, but I think the variant I use is slightly better since it has 2 armor buffs.
yes, it will be more safe. but less damage from crit
Thank you for the manual play video 😃
wpuld you mind showing info of your heroes/pets?
Pets done in last video. it's standart setup for team.
Have you done the math or calculations to see who is better to use, Nebula or Jet? With Nebula's special skills, she will give big physical attack boosts from her artifact weapon, and then also 4th skill (if you get lucky and the boost is given to Sebastian), and then a small boost from the first skill (from her Ascenscion skill). All of the physical attack boosts will help boost the 2nd and 3rd special skills of Sebastian.
For example, the 4th skill of Nebula is "equilibrium", and mine gives about 100,000 (I am using close numbers to make the math easy) temporary physical attack boost (which would go to Sebastian or Isaac). My artifact weapon for Nebula gives over 21,000 physical attack boost. So if they happen at the same time, and if Sebastian's second skill is going off (at the right time when Cornelius/Albus attack), then the chance for a critical hit goes from 121% chance to a 241% chance. (Physical attack of Sebastian is 79k right now. 79k + 121k = 200k. 200,000 *.001 + 41 = 241% critical hit chance).
The same goes for boosting Sebastian's 3rd skill. I currently get 122% extra pure damage for his 3rd skill. If I add that 121k physical attack boost, then I get a 266% increase in pure damage.
And then Jet just adds a critical hit chance to the whole team for the fight. He doesn't boost physical attack at all, so the Cornelius ultimate skill damage will be much less, right?
Проделали ли вы математические расчеты или расчеты, чтобы понять, кого лучше использовать: Nebula или Jet? Благодаря особым навыкам Небулы она даст большое усиление физической атаки от своего артефактного оружия, а затем также 4-е умение (если вам повезет и усиление будет передано Себастьяну), а затем небольшое усиление от первого умения (от ее умения Вознесения). ). Все усиления физической атаки помогут усилить 2-й и 3-й специальные навыки Себастьяна.
Например, 4-й навык Небулы - «Равновесие», а мой дает около 100 000 (я использую близкие числа, чтобы упростить расчеты) временного усиления физической атаки (которое досталось бы Себастьяну или Исааку). Мое артефактное оружие для Небулы дает более 21 000 усиления физической атаки. Таким образом, если они происходят одновременно и если второй навык Себастьяна срабатывает (в нужный момент, когда Корнелиус/Альбус атакуют), то вероятность критического удара увеличивается с 121% до 241%. (Физическая атака Себастьяна сейчас составляет 79 тысяч. 79 тысяч + 121 тысяч = 200 тысяч. 200 000 *.001 + 41 = 241% шанс критического удара).
То же самое касается и повышения третьего навыка Себастьяна. В настоящее время я получаю 122% дополнительного чистого урона от его третьего навыка. Если я добавлю усиление физической атаки на 121 тыс., то чистый урон увеличится на 266%.
А потом Джет просто добавляет шанс критического удара всей команде на бой. Он вообще не усиливает физическую атаку, поэтому урон от предельного умения Корнелиуса будет намного меньше, верно?
I don’t test, I have 0 lvl jet and last 5 week I just pushed my Corny coz he was also very weak.
You ~right in your calculation. My nebula’s art buff is 33,5k so it’s a little more chance.
About Jet you also right, jet won’t buff damage and then need max Corny to him and anyway he will make less damage from seb+albus.
What about crit chance - I don’t know how it’s work with %. I just know if I will have 75k crit chance (13.9k*2 from seb) * ~205-245% - then I will have 50% for crit.
If I will have jet and have 13.9k*2*2000-3000%from jet will it be much more or it will be just 70% for crit?
So need to calculate not only max dmg, but also avr and chance for crit. And some more chance like to lose hero or make to much damage to spheres before getting buff.
Good show, it would have been useful to show Hero team/team strength and patronage. Thanks for the video anyway. 👌
congratulations.😁my guild still fighting the 150, hope one day we can do the same.
Amazing! Please show us your artifact levels.
posted them in boosty: boosty.to/dedaherowars
it will be also free subscribe for first time.
Wondering of what skins should I use in Issac, Martha, Nebula, Corenlius for the Osh battle (150 or 160)?? And what artifacts/gylphs, etc should I maxed out on??
Hi Deda i watched your other video about using solo lian against ish/dante teams and i'm wondering how much health she has exactly because i want to build her like yours?!!
I will check later. But also some times not maxed lian can be better then max one.
@@dedaherowars i know that's why i want to build her exactly like yours, thank you for replying :)
Hi can you show every team should max all or not ?
Are you quite sure Nebula has a place here ?
1. She never boosts Cornelius with Equilibrium
2. She boosts Sebastian, so a team receives extra crit hit boost from his Battle Song skill, further boosted by Nebula's Equilibrium, BUT only heroes that already have crit hit stat.
Cornelius has none, even on max settings.
You sure that Sebastian's 1st artifact, giving team crit hit, counts ?
Neb could boost Cornelius' ults in another way: If Corny's ult formula was based on ph atk (Neb boosts ph with 1st artifact). But instead, it's mag atk.
I might be entirely wrong, I'm a newbie.
But seen a setup with Neb replaced with Jet, so sth might be going up.
Or ppl like to have more reliable crit hit, chance.
Yes, nebula works here good and boost seb realy much.
Cornelius got crit stat with sebastian artefact bonus. And then Sebastian skills also boost this stats.
For me it seems nebula have good boost for crit chance and also boost crit damage, so that's why need just 1 crit to kill full boss. Jet team can't kill full boss with 1 crit.
What is the pattern of each hero with his pet that he used?
Oliver Cain Albus Biscuit, Axel
Which hero leads who? For example, Oliver, what hero was he with and the others, what pet were they with?@@dedaherowars
example, oliver y sebastian, etc
@@dedaherowars
@@quizmaestroOne Isaac with Oliver. Seb with Albus, Nebula with Cain
Great job Deda! I'm wondering if boss health should be taken into consideration when doing the hit? For instance, if you start at 50% boss health, beat first boss in 1min of time, would things be optimal on the 2nd boss when he pops to have a chance at doing a second hit like the first one. Essentially I'm wondering how boss health impacts the timing of getting the armor pen and crit buffs.
you got good question. Boss health doesn't matter for crit chance. but i think the best way is to start from ~full boss health, coz if albus or Corny will shoot for 500mil(1 attack) and boss got only 200mil health - you will lose your 300mil damage. New boss will come, but you won't hit him for this 300 mil damage.
So what was the pet line-up and what was Corny's strength? And did you have all the team's Artifacts maxed?
а как питомцы расставлены?
Стандартно. Оливер на Айзеке, каин на набуле, альбус на себе. Остальное не важно.
Какие усилки были куплены?
Я забыл всех Минионов убить. Из золотых все кроме первого.
привет, супер. сам ответил на свой вопрос, 1,4 наверное можно набрать за 2 ульты.
раньше помню советовали айзеку не качать защиту от магии. это устаревший совет? заранее благодарен за ответ)
Я боюсь дать совет т.к. не совсем уверен. Но у меня не вкачен облик на пробой и защиту от магии.
@@dedaherowars ясно) пробив я вкачал полностью, защиту не брал
@@DutovDV Если пробив вкачен - нет смысла думаю пробовать. Либо подумать о команде с Джетом. Но этот вариант я не просчитывал пока.
@@dedaherowars а как питомцы расставлены на героях?
@@vindetta77 уже писал в комментах выше. В новом видео выложил. там все по умолчанию, оливер на айзеке, альбус на себе. В остальных не ошибиться.
200 million pure damage.🤯🤯🤯
Omg this is so amazing
Does this team only work on 160 Osh?
need other power to different lvls. it wo'nt works if maxed. and it will be more hard to build it for other lvls i think.
Thanks, I'll play around with it. I do think it sucks that it hurts you if your heroes are maxed. @@dedaherowars
Can we play in auto with this team?
Not really. It appears you have to time Albus and Cornelius. You launch Cornelius's ult, and then right after, you use Albus's skill. If Cornelius's shot makes a critical hit, then there will be pure damage. That's what gives a huge boost to Albus's damage. Additionally, he is trying to time it so that Isaac's ult'ing a lot (each time with armor penetration boost), and then ult'ing Sebastian (for a critical hit boost) and Nebula too for attack boost. If you play in auto mode, you will just be completely dependent on everything happening at the right time, and your chances are really low to get the Cornelius/Albus thing and crit boosts all timed at the right moment.
No, it won’t work in auto
@@jek4837 good explanation - thanks.
but what is the hero patronage?
Muito top , perfeito 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
The title is wrong.
you mean 799mil, not 800?)
@@dedaherowars osh 160 needs 860 mil to kill in 1 hit :P
@@christopherstaples6758 if it was full with 860 health - i should make 860 mil. but it wasn't full health, that's why damage is less.
Is it absolutely not possible for someone to die in the first Meteor? Can everyone survive every time?
it is big chance to lose any hero in meteors. Only marta 1-st max artefact can help with it, but not also in 100%
Друг информацию по бою покажи,какова мощь героев.
я в каких то роликах где-то показывал. кроме деда остальные близки к максу.
The thumbnail said that you did more damage to the boss, and then the boss somehow got more health. How did the boss heal itself?
after i kill boss - next same boss come. you can kill 2 bosses in 1 fight.
Hi Deda. Are you form CZ?
no
Deda is propably from RU, because of " h - ch "
Could be from multiple countries like Croatia, Serbia, Bosnia but not CZ. I dont think so at least
hmmm
Может на русском снимешь видео с дедом?)
sehr beeindruckend. leider ist mein englisch bescheiden, so das ich nicht verstehe, was gemeint ist. vielleicht kann mir jemand helfen. vielen dank
I get better results with Jet than nebula
you can show us your results
@@dedaherowars basically 2 weeks ago was last time I ran jhu/Nebula and they did 51.3mil damage(best damage j did so far at that time) on 140 osh/entire team is orange 3,week later I ran cornelius/Jet on manual and they have done 58.6 mil. Damage(Cornelius was only orange), this week they did 60.4 mil. Damage(Cornelius went to orange +1)
@@P4r4lyz3r 140 Osh got different stats. and you can't compare level 160 and level 140 teams.
@@dedaherowars I dont attack 160 as its pain in ass to do
Обманщик! Атаковал босса 150 уровня, со 160 так не получится.... И даже на видео спалился, что 160 живой и у него только 600м уроня снято всей Гильдией...😂😂😂
у 150го боса 447млн здоровья. Учите мат часть ;)
860М здоровья, на 150м - 400, нормально всё
При чем здесь здоровье? Протрите свои очки... Он атаковал босса 150 уровня, когда он умер, оставшееся время урон пошел по 160 уровню босса!
@@user-jc9wv6qv8l ibb.co/pZNNpvS
а так нагляднее? вначале был 160ый и потом появился новый 160ый.
реально слепой чтоли?)@@user-jc9wv6qv8l