I get the feeling this is the intention with many fromsoft bosses. People who struggle with them for a long time before they finally win then goes on to watch videos of other people lose to those bosses as a form of therapy :)
@@JY_TheKai you'll get her bro, I struggled with her too. There's a pattern she has that you were just about to see before the video ended. You got this! ✨️ If you're interested in how I beat her I have a video of my own you can watch if you want.
The way I used to avoid her waterfall dance is to use a 100% damage negation shield for the first wave of it, then dodge the rest.(won’t have enough stamina for the whole thing) It should at the very least make avoiding the attack way easier.
You can cancel her waterfowl dance with frost pots (crafting recipe is directly right of the entrance to Caria Manor) And if you have the stats to use the Blasphemous Blade (or the talismans to make up for it), you can feasibly stunlock her for the entire 1st phase
The pain is real. I'd fought her a dozen times before seeing that crazy attack in her 2nd phase where the ghosts soldiers go after you and then she does , blew my damn mind
If you have some, frost pots can cancel her waterfowl. other stats like your bleed work but frost pots are more consistent with a side of fire damage. Just a tip, i know you'll get her all the same.
Lore on godwyn: -that dragon you fought was his bestie. He tried to fight the Death that turned Godwyn into whatever the hell that is, but got corrupted as well. -He was essentially the poster boy of the Golden Order. -Heard a theory that he was supposed to marry Ranni but she wasnt with it, so she planned his assassination to change her fate. Unconfirmed if it is true of course. -Ominoisly enough, not only is Godwyn's body the reason deathroot is sprouting everywhere, but for some reason, even his face & eyes appear in various strange places. (The backs of several crab shells; the eyes on those frog things that breath deathblight are fake; a huge face under stormveil castle; several places with thick roots that have multiple eyes in them; same thing eyes appearing in what is otherwise a pile of corpses. Very creepy
@@JY_TheKai Honestly, i dont even know. I think he WAS good. Also, i recommend using Ghiza's Wheel against Malenia. Sure as hell helped me with the easy stagger & bleed procs
I defeated her recently and it took me three days and line over 50 atepmts that where mostly me attacking and she waterfall dancing on my ahh right after
@@JY_TheKai I understand completely, I just recommend you get Lords of blood tailsmen, if you want. Good luck my friend 🤞 (btw very funny video, I love your edits)
I'm stuck on her right now too but i found out that if she starts waterfowl when you are close, it's better to turn off the lock-on for a moment. Don't know if its possible to dodge the full first combo, but the second and third i dodged by rolling into her when she lunges cause it makes a pretty big distance Also the ghost attack is ass... Edited this cause i got her finally and you are a much better player than me so you can too
@@JY_TheKaihowever you decide to tackle it i think it's just a matter of time. In the meanwhile im about to face off Maliketh and i feel like i'm going to get my ass handed to me so good luck to us both xD
the dragon in Fia's dream is a metaphor for chlamydia, guess that's what she gets for banging corpses, btw you have chlamydia now you probably beat her by now but here's some advice should you ever fight her again: Malenia's water fowl dance can actually be super easily be stopped by just tossing a frost pot at her, just make sure to hit her with fire damage afterwards to reset her frostbite resistance, alternatively you can just dodge out of range with bloodhound step, though of course there is also a way to dodge through it without any tools, timing is very tight tho i can also recommend using poison clumps to throw in her face at close range, it can take up to 5 of them depending on how close to her you throw them but it kinda makes using a shield worthwhile, especially during waterfowl dance
Back here again, but instead of Maliketh lore, I'm here to tell you how to dodge her waterfowl dance up close. Due to the nature of single delayed attacks, if she does a waterfowl up close, starts running circles around her. Her first dance to go past you, dodge forward into her second dance, then it's all the time as if you're dodging a waterfowl from far away. This is due to when characters with single delayed attacks. Margit/Morgott/Mogh are great examples. The tracking is far worse than fast attacks and combos. So this Strat works on a lot of other delayed attacks.
Sup my guy sorry I was late I was in school and I tried watching your video but my phone got taken away well it doesn’t matter because the video is bussin
Ah yes the “mosoleam” 😂 You have to be one of the best smaller channels to play these games it’s been nothing but entertaining! Good job and keep going man you deserve more subs and views good luck 👍
actually I haven't considered it because I dont wanna use any summons for her. I feel like in most cases if I need to summon its me admitting I couldn't win without it😂
@JY_TheKai that's fair. Then maybe a shield? She's the only boss I used a shield for lol. The fingerprint shield can tank her waterfowl dance. She still heals but atleast you don't die 🤣
@@JY_TheKai No no no, I assure you I'm... Fine... ;D I think the fun of the fight depends on if the person can dodge Waterfowl or nah, because once I made a way to dodge it, it instantly became a fun fight. Even though I spent a four hour stream fighting Malenia at RL30, I still think she was a fun fight,
Too bad he didn't show his real first attempt (with the cutscene) but we all know what happend he got clapped 2 seconds after the cutscene ended just like the rest of us
I never had a real first attempt. Nothing actually happened. If you go back a few videos I found the haligtree really early on and realized what I gotten myself into when I saw the cutscene and immediately closed my game💀 so I never got to see the cutscene until NG+
So, did you know Melania was the blade of Miquella? Very glad you found Deeproot Depths. My favorite area in the game. Fortisax isn't a very hard boss, but fun. The lore is that, long ago, ancient dragons attacked the city of Leyndell. Gransax was the first. He's the HUGE petrified dragon in the city that you climb on. Fortisax also attacked after, but was defeated by Godwyn. But instead of taking his life, Godwyn spared Fortisax, and the two became friends. I personally believe Godwyn was always afflicted with Deathblight, just as Morgott and Mohg were afflicted, Melania was afflicted, and Miquella was afflicted. All accounts say he should've died a true death, rather than saying he shouldn't have died at all. The Golden Bough, as he's referred to, is also a book talking about rulers who become sick/weak/corrupted from within and are killed for their soul to inhabit a new body. This may have been the intention for Godwyn, but his soul was slain instead, leaving the Deathblight to flow out unchecked. And Fortisax, loyal to Godwyn, remained and tried to fight off the Deathblight within his friend, becoming afflicted with it himself (black scales, thorns sticking out of his body and eye socket, etc.). For Melania, Waterfowl Dance is very oppressive. The first flurry lasts too long to roll through. It's impossible. You want to either be far enough away to outpace it or to roll the last part of it. If you're up close, you can walk around her up close in a circle to spin her, so that you're behind her and she does Waterfowl Dance in the opposite direction, with you doing two rolls just as she starts it. Then you roll through her for the second flurry, and walk back the same way to dodge the other flurry. She does "input read", or rather, they react to the first frame of animation of you doing things like healing, which is basically the same. And if you ever feel like you pressed the dodge button and it didn't work, well on top of the roll only working when you release the button, all your inputs have about a 0.2 second delay before your character even starts moving, while in say Dark Souls 3 it was closer to a 0.1 second delay. It's enough to make a difference.
Once again thanks for the lore. And I knew I wasnt't bugging with the buttonn inputs. I just feel like Melania is a cheap copout to be "hard". Having 1-2 gimmicky moves and then input reads I just hated the whole fight😭 thanks for the tips though
@@JY_TheKai Yeah she's bad. I watched a lot of Elden Ring boss fights before getting the game, for fun. It's how (aside from Commander O'Neil), I no-hit the bosses myself. I knew their bullshit lol. If you look up stuff from BjornTheBear or Elden Ring Fights, you see how Melania pretty much never loses to any of them. Not even to Maliketh, or multiple bosses teamed against her at once. Hell if you look up Tree Sentinels vs bosses, she got up to fighting 64 of them at the same time, and killed about 50 of them before she finally died. Every other boss, at best, took out maybe 5 or 6. It's nuts. Not made easier with the action delay. Erdtree Avatars' one sideways swing comes out fast, and if you roll on reaction it's not fast enough to dodge it. Oh also there's kind of a timer on Melania's WFD move. A bit of a period she won't use it. If you can't do the spin trick up close to roll it, you can bait her to use it when she's far away by throwing daggers/knives or something at her. She'll dodge it, and has a high chance to follow up with Waterfowl Dance, even if she's far away. Bleed is very powerful on her, and if you have two natural (and fast) bleed weapons, you can also try infusing one with fire damage and the other with frostbite, because frost also does percentage damage, and the fire would reset it so you can frost her again. Oh and I forgot to mention. The big fish thing in the room with the ghost warriors (including Rogier) and Fortisax? That's Godwyn. His face is in the basement of Stormveil Castle too. I don't know if you found that. There's a special bloodstain there too. Basically Rogier was paying visits to Fia. She takes some of your HP for hugging her - life. She recycles that life into the dying to give them a new chance at life. She was apparently trying to do that for Godwyn before grace called her. There is... interesting story interaction between her and D. I don't wanna spoil it. You missed it yourself, but in a week or two I have a... let's say I did my best to edit it to make it dramatic when I did those quest bits myself. But you can always just look up the quest events. They intersect with Ranni's too.
@@Shin_FTWbro the crazy part is I just seen this comment now and last night I just seen the video of the tree sentinels vs her. Her healing fucks everything up. She really is the queen of assholes. Also commander o”niell is one of those bs gimmick bosses
@@JY_TheKai Yeah she's by far the most OP boss From's made. Placidusax is challenging, but fun. Seeing his comebacks in the "boss vs boss" videos is really satisfying lol. Phase 2 annihilates. You can stagger her pretty easily, not just flinching but I mean actually staggering, but there is a few moves she has that she can't be staggered during. So if you hit her and deplete her "stagger HP" during those moves, she not only won't get staggered, but her stagger HP replenishes back to full again, because it acts like she was staggered. The boss design breaks the rules of the game. I'd keep it to faster powerstance weapons. bleed especially. She'll get hitstunned from most attacks. The moves you can't hitstun her in (like her kick), if your weapons are fast enough, you can hit her and then roll. Also apparently if you're not super far away and Melania is rushing you with Waterfowl Dance, you can (while still running) jump to avoid the slices of the first flurry. I don't know how it works, but I saw multiple people running from it and just jumping twice, and that first flurry just... missed lol.
@@JY_TheKai Also bleed and frost procs will cancel her Waterfowl Dance animation. That's how you stopped her that one time. For her big scarlet flower (Scarlet Aeonia) that she does in phase 2 (because she can use it again and again), if she uses it in front of her, get kinda under her and walk around to make her rotate. She rotates slower than you walk around her, so it'll make her miss completely when she dives down with it. I think you also died to her summoning clones to attack you. This one is bad because the first clone that you dodge actually stays behind to do ANOTHER attack right after the last clone, and it's so fast that it will hit you out of your roll from dodging the other clone. You want to roll their attacks while running as far from that first clone as possible so that it can't reach you, and then watch out for Melania lunging after that.
She's unreasonably weak to Night Sorceries. She cant register or dodge them. She dodges AFTER she's been hit. Strat: respec into an INT build. STR / DEX its your choice. Staff of Loss is best but any staff is fine. First look at your staffs requirements before speccing. Keep the staff in your offhand. Get QuickStep ash of war for your weapon in your main hand. It'll help with dodging. Poke at her with your main weapon when she gets close and hit her with night comet when she's afar. Godspeed.
@@JY_TheKai i dont think anyone could fault you for changing strats. Shes one of the hardest Fromsoft bosses. A series known for putting their player bases collective nuts in a vice. She's an elite amongst elites AND has a second phase with a full health bar. I dont think trying every tool at your disposal is admitting defeat. Respect your decision though man. Can only really. That bish a baddie FR.
“Radhans spirit beats inside of me” Wdym by that💀
Yea who would say something like that 👨🏾🍳
His favorite boss
I hate her with my heart and soul
@@JY_TheKai yuh yall married
Faze jev questioned his class choice
AfroSenju went through an anime arc with her
And now we have a new hero who’s story shall be told for generations
She shaved decades off my life
@@JY_TheKai hey at least the hardest part is over. And you get to face two of the best bosses in the game
@@MediaDroid960 but at what cost💀😂
I get the feeling this is the intention with many fromsoft bosses.
People who struggle with them for a long time before they finally win then goes on to watch videos of other people lose to those bosses as a form of therapy :)
@@carljohan9265 the cycle of death
I've never related to the feelings you're going through MORE than rn lmaoooooo. 10/10 channel
Lmao glad someone is relating cause she actually made me loose it💀😭
This is about to be phenomenal bro
the fish awaits beyond chadfery
Did she remind you that she is the blade of miquella?
She also reminded me that she has never known defeat
@@JY_TheKai you'll get her bro, I struggled with her too. There's a pattern she has that you were just about to see before the video ended. You got this! ✨️
If you're interested in how I beat her I have a video of my own you can watch if you want.
@@magicyandereaxe preciate that. she definitely pushed my mental to its limits.
To Dodge the waterfall dance always dodge trhu' her, never backwards
Except the final part, there dodge bsckwards.
Every time I thought I had the pattern down I got hit by a tiny part of it and then it throws me all the way off
@@JY_TheKai yeah bro, i saw that, just spam dodge whe she hits you
The way I used to avoid her waterfall dance is to use a 100% damage negation shield for the first wave of it, then dodge the rest.(won’t have enough stamina for the whole thing) It should at the very least make avoiding the attack way easier.
Doesn’t she heal off of shields tho? That’s why I never used them
@@JY_TheKai She only does if she deals damage off of you. She doesn’t if you use a shield with 100% damage negation.
When i saw her do that move and heard fall i knew what was gon happen
I’m pretty sure every single person to ever fight malenia has died to that move at least once💀😭
Ik I died to it almost every time she did it
@@Shade1567 every time she does it I feel like I have a 50/50 chance of making it out alive
@@JY_TheKai I feel you bro😭
Beat her today with my spell blade build, you did really well honestly so GG! You can't imagine my panic when she dodged my first comet!
Thanks for that😂 this fight did things so my mind I cant even comprehend
These videos funny as hell dawg
Thanks dawg I appreciate that💯
You can cancel her waterfowl dance with frost pots (crafting recipe is directly right of the entrance to Caria Manor)
And if you have the stats to use the Blasphemous Blade (or the talismans to make up for it), you can feasibly stunlock her for the entire 1st phase
I didn’t wanna use blasphemous cause it makes the fight is easy apparently😭
The pain is real. I'd fought her a dozen times before seeing that crazy attack in her 2nd phase where the ghosts soldiers go after you and then she does , blew my damn mind
I really thought I had seen everything and then ofc she pulled something else out her ass💀😭
Corpse after corpse, left in my wake
If you have some, frost pots can cancel her waterfowl. other stats like your bleed work but frost pots are more consistent with a side of fire damage. Just a tip, i know you'll get her all the same.
Literally the best Elden ring content I’ve seen since the game dropped keep it up and good luck with rot mommy
Hearing that means a lot💯. Thank you for the luck too. Imma need every ounce of luck I can get for her
The moment we've all been waiting for. We are about to witness the downfall of a man
Yep, JY didn't get consent 😂😂😂😂 3:45
Lore on godwyn:
-that dragon you fought was his bestie. He tried to fight the Death that turned Godwyn into whatever the hell that is, but got corrupted as well.
-He was essentially the poster boy of the Golden Order.
-Heard a theory that he was supposed to marry Ranni but she wasnt with it, so she planned his assassination to change her fate. Unconfirmed if it is true of course.
-Ominoisly enough, not only is Godwyn's body the reason deathroot is sprouting everywhere, but for some reason, even his face & eyes appear in various strange places. (The backs of several crab shells; the eyes on those frog things that breath deathblight are fake; a huge face under stormveil castle; several places with thick roots that have multiple eyes in them; same thing eyes appearing in what is otherwise a pile of corpses. Very creepy
So is Goldwyn bad or good? and thats creepy. This game has so much lore its hard to keep up
@@JY_TheKai Honestly, i dont even know. I think he WAS good. Also, i recommend using Ghiza's Wheel against Malenia. Sure as hell helped me with the easy stagger & bleed procs
@@azathothbaudelaire1642 what is ghizas wheel?
@@JY_TheKai a chainsaw pizza cutter. You find it in Volcano Manor
@@azathothbaudelaire1642 OHHHh I remember getting that. At the top floor of the manor right?
I mean I’m still a simp for her.
leave this place. and never return for your blasphemy
@@JY_TheKai 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🙏🙏
I defeated her recently and it took me three days and line over 50 atepmts that where mostly me attacking and she waterfall dancing on my ahh right after
50 is baby numbers. I was in the 100’s 💀😭
@@JY_TheKai damn bro i would have gone mad too
@@davidclavijo6192 I didnt break anything but it definitely crossed my mind
@@JY_TheKai i know the feeling XD
Been eagerly waiting for this and it's finally here lets go!
glad y'all waited cause this is about to be a ride
Try out mohgs spear use the ash of war, and make sure to get the lord of bloods tailsmen, it buffs you when there's bleed. Hopefully it helps 🤞
I can't trivialize the fight too much. I feel like if I cheese the fight I admit defeat
@@JY_TheKai I understand completely, I just recommend you get Lords of blood tailsmen, if you want. Good luck my friend 🤞 (btw very funny video, I love your edits)
@@zainabameen6155 I appreciate that. I did eventually go and get that talisman after a bunch more attempts😂
@@JY_TheKai that's great 😃! Can't wait for your next video. Good luck on the next attempt :D
@@zainabameen6155 Thanks, imma need as much luck as I can get
Ice and bleed go brrr
Ice pots disable her water fowl dance
I'm stuck on her right now too but i found out that if she starts waterfowl when you are close, it's better to turn off the lock-on for a moment. Don't know if its possible to dodge the full first combo, but the second and third i dodged by rolling into her when she lunges cause it makes a pretty big distance
Also the ghost attack is ass...
Edited this cause i got her finally and you are a much better player than me so you can too
Idk if I’m a much better player but I appreciate the motivation😂 I’m afraid to try the spin around technique on the waterfowl
@@JY_TheKaihowever you decide to tackle it i think it's just a matter of time. In the meanwhile im about to face off Maliketh and i feel like i'm going to get my ass handed to me so good luck to us both xD
@@omickronn1021 all I gotta say is good luck on malekiths first phase. I dont know if its just me but it almost made me loose my composure.
@@JY_TheKai i will watch you lose it right after i finish the fight so maybe in a year
@@omickronn1021 😭dont say that
the dragon in Fia's dream is a metaphor for chlamydia, guess that's what she gets for banging corpses, btw you have chlamydia now
you probably beat her by now but here's some advice should you ever fight her again:
Malenia's water fowl dance can actually be super easily be stopped by just tossing a frost pot at her, just make sure to hit her with fire damage afterwards to reset her frostbite resistance, alternatively you can just dodge out of range with bloodhound step, though of course there is also a way to dodge through it without any tools, timing is very tight tho
i can also recommend using poison clumps to throw in her face at close range, it can take up to 5 of them depending on how close to her you throw them but it kinda makes using a shield worthwhile, especially during waterfowl dance
SHE HAS AN STD💀💀💀💀
bro, im playin silent hill 3 right now and THIS is how the final boss is treatin me lmaooo. I feel ur pain smh
I can't take it anymore she's actually making me loose myself💀😂
This is my anime I’ve been binging this playlist
made me realize how many vids there are
Go back to Fia if you did the quest right beforehand there’s something you can do
I don’t think I did anything related to her quest before now
Bro you just need to take a rest and process every atack she does, you got this for the next episode!!!
Needing rest after fighting her is a understatement
@@JY_TheKai Get the lube for round 2
has any bosss or enemy in a videogame come close to this much mental pain?
I have never in my life had a worse experience in a video game
I'm a no life Elden Ring player and I still got forcibly pegged over a 3 day period 🤣good job!
I feel so defeated after her so thank you😂
PSA: Frostbite pots knock her out of waterfowl dance.
EDIT: It only works when shes in the air not after she start swinging.
I was thinking about that
Havent finished the video yet, but malenia is easyly staggered and very weak to fire, ice, and bleed (last one im not so sure)
0:58 HIDEOUS ZIPPLEBACK MENTIONED🗣️📢
HIDEOUS ZIPPLEBACK THATS THE NAME. I can remember all the other ones by name expect that one
@@JY_TheKai it's rarely talked about so it's understandable
@@Anjanathlordhow to train your dragon was my childhood
@@JY_TheKai same
@@Anjanathlord did you watch the shows growing up? Also I fw the username. Rare to see MH players in the comments
This man will get big in like a year i guarantee
I appreciate the support bro. I hope so
@@JY_TheKai you got it, just be patient
Little advice that i discovered recently: try to use frost pot right before she uses the waterflow dance
Yea I’ve seen people say that but I can never throw it fast enough
Back here again, but instead of Maliketh lore, I'm here to tell you how to dodge her waterfowl dance up close.
Due to the nature of single delayed attacks, if she does a waterfowl up close, starts running circles around her. Her first dance to go past you, dodge forward into her second dance, then it's all the time as if you're dodging a waterfowl from far away.
This is due to when characters with single delayed attacks. Margit/Morgott/Mogh are great examples. The tracking is far worse than fast attacks and combos. So this Strat works on a lot of other delayed attacks.
I wanna try the circle method so bad but I feel like imma get caught every time 😂
For not using súmense and spells you did extremely well so keep going and you can beat her so keep trying
Hearing that is really encouraging. I needed that😂
Sup my guy sorry I was late I was in school and I tried watching your video but my phone got taken away well it doesn’t matter because the video is bussin
Important tip the roll activates once you release the button not when you press it so that is why you felt like you dodged but you didn’t :)
You got your phone taken??? What did you do😭
Well that woulda been good to know 💀😭
@@JY_TheKai I was watching your video during lessons
@@JY_TheKai yeah learned that a day before your video
I like how he was hyping up his own character
you got this, champ!
Ah yes the “mosoleam” 😂
You have to be one of the best smaller channels to play these games it’s been nothing but entertaining! Good job and keep going man you deserve more subs and views good luck 👍
Thanks bro I appreciate that. Glad yall are enjoying
59 death i think I was counting 😅
Prepare to count like 50-60 more
Pro tip: git gud
You'll eventually beat her. Eventually
Have you considered using summons as a distraction?
actually I haven't considered it because I dont wanna use any summons for her. I feel like in most cases if I need to summon its me admitting I couldn't win without it😂
@JY_TheKai that's fair. Then maybe a shield? She's the only boss I used a shield for lol. The fingerprint shield can tank her waterfowl dance. She still heals but atleast you don't die 🤣
@@christherock2370 im posting the next episode in a few hours. I switched up my strategy a little bit
Malenia is one of my favorite fights in the Souls series tbh :3
you might need to be checked by a professional
@@JY_TheKai No no no, I assure you I'm... Fine...
;D
I think the fun of the fight depends on if the person can dodge Waterfowl or nah, because once I made a way to dodge it, it instantly became a fun fight. Even though I spent a four hour stream fighting Malenia at RL30, I still think she was a fun fight,
yea I spent 3 3-4 hour streams
LETS GO
now do it blindfolded
Bro has not responded to my dm
@@JY_TheKai "Bro has not responded to my dm" as he doesnt respond to my DM
@@FutabasGamingChair because you commented on youtube without responding. theres a difference💀
@@JY_TheKai nah
So did you know she was the blade of miquella
I also know she has never known defeat
Welcome to the white van I am giving free runes
Btw I defeated mellainis first face first try
Where are my free runes
My guy listen Malenia is hard buuuuuuut…weak to fire and frost pots and rivers of blood is perfect for this so use that
I can never get the frost pots out fast enough I panic and scroll past it
I recommend golden bow and flame grant me strength. They’re good buffs
I heard the flame one only lasts 30 seconds though? Will I really have enough time to reuse it
nooo i was late by 17 secs
Malenia is in a way VERY weak to fire damage, so if there’s a fire power that you e wanted to use for a while, now’s the chance.
Thanks for the tips I needed all I could get
Your favorite boss 😊 jy
🗿👊🏾
Great dragon fight, you are steong, but not malenia.like strong
Yet another person who falls to the rot queen
She can’t keep getting away with this
😂😂😂😂 Melania brings out the best in every player ..
easily the Goat boss of games
GOAT??!?
@@JY_TheKai as in the hardest boss to ever fight
@@St._Matthew let’s call her a GAHOAT (Greatest asshole of all time)
Ok this video was an experience to watch but I can tell the final three bosses are going to be a problem for you bro
The rotussy smells foul on this one
Name of the track at 6:05 and 7:01 plz ( and sorry for the many questions)
no your good, I believe its megatrons boss theme
@@JY_TheKai thanks a lot , you are goated
Yo here
weak
Too bad he didn't show his real first attempt (with the cutscene) but we all know what happend he got clapped 2 seconds after the cutscene ended just like the rest of us
I never had a real first attempt. Nothing actually happened. If you go back a few videos I found the haligtree really early on and realized what I gotten myself into when I saw the cutscene and immediately closed my game💀 so I never got to see the cutscene until NG+
Malenia is so much worse than nameless king bro
I know. id rather fight him for three phases than her
So, did you know Melania was the blade of Miquella?
Very glad you found Deeproot Depths. My favorite area in the game. Fortisax isn't a very hard boss, but fun. The lore is that, long ago, ancient dragons attacked the city of Leyndell. Gransax was the first. He's the HUGE petrified dragon in the city that you climb on. Fortisax also attacked after, but was defeated by Godwyn. But instead of taking his life, Godwyn spared Fortisax, and the two became friends. I personally believe Godwyn was always afflicted with Deathblight, just as Morgott and Mohg were afflicted, Melania was afflicted, and Miquella was afflicted. All accounts say he should've died a true death, rather than saying he shouldn't have died at all. The Golden Bough, as he's referred to, is also a book talking about rulers who become sick/weak/corrupted from within and are killed for their soul to inhabit a new body. This may have been the intention for Godwyn, but his soul was slain instead, leaving the Deathblight to flow out unchecked. And Fortisax, loyal to Godwyn, remained and tried to fight off the Deathblight within his friend, becoming afflicted with it himself (black scales, thorns sticking out of his body and eye socket, etc.).
For Melania, Waterfowl Dance is very oppressive. The first flurry lasts too long to roll through. It's impossible. You want to either be far enough away to outpace it or to roll the last part of it. If you're up close, you can walk around her up close in a circle to spin her, so that you're behind her and she does Waterfowl Dance in the opposite direction, with you doing two rolls just as she starts it. Then you roll through her for the second flurry, and walk back the same way to dodge the other flurry.
She does "input read", or rather, they react to the first frame of animation of you doing things like healing, which is basically the same. And if you ever feel like you pressed the dodge button and it didn't work, well on top of the roll only working when you release the button, all your inputs have about a 0.2 second delay before your character even starts moving, while in say Dark Souls 3 it was closer to a 0.1 second delay. It's enough to make a difference.
Once again thanks for the lore. And I knew I wasnt't bugging with the buttonn inputs. I just feel like Melania is a cheap copout to be "hard". Having 1-2 gimmicky moves and then input reads I just hated the whole fight😭 thanks for the tips though
@@JY_TheKai Yeah she's bad. I watched a lot of Elden Ring boss fights before getting the game, for fun. It's how (aside from Commander O'Neil), I no-hit the bosses myself. I knew their bullshit lol. If you look up stuff from BjornTheBear or Elden Ring Fights, you see how Melania pretty much never loses to any of them. Not even to Maliketh, or multiple bosses teamed against her at once.
Hell if you look up Tree Sentinels vs bosses, she got up to fighting 64 of them at the same time, and killed about 50 of them before she finally died. Every other boss, at best, took out maybe 5 or 6. It's nuts. Not made easier with the action delay. Erdtree Avatars' one sideways swing comes out fast, and if you roll on reaction it's not fast enough to dodge it.
Oh also there's kind of a timer on Melania's WFD move. A bit of a period she won't use it. If you can't do the spin trick up close to roll it, you can bait her to use it when she's far away by throwing daggers/knives or something at her. She'll dodge it, and has a high chance to follow up with Waterfowl Dance, even if she's far away.
Bleed is very powerful on her, and if you have two natural (and fast) bleed weapons, you can also try infusing one with fire damage and the other with frostbite, because frost also does percentage damage, and the fire would reset it so you can frost her again.
Oh and I forgot to mention. The big fish thing in the room with the ghost warriors (including Rogier) and Fortisax? That's Godwyn. His face is in the basement of Stormveil Castle too. I don't know if you found that. There's a special bloodstain there too. Basically Rogier was paying visits to Fia. She takes some of your HP for hugging her - life. She recycles that life into the dying to give them a new chance at life. She was apparently trying to do that for Godwyn before grace called her.
There is... interesting story interaction between her and D. I don't wanna spoil it. You missed it yourself, but in a week or two I have a... let's say I did my best to edit it to make it dramatic when I did those quest bits myself. But you can always just look up the quest events. They intersect with Ranni's too.
@@Shin_FTWbro the crazy part is I just seen this comment now and last night I just seen the video of the tree sentinels vs her. Her healing fucks everything up. She really is the queen of assholes. Also commander o”niell is one of those bs gimmick bosses
@@JY_TheKai Yeah she's by far the most OP boss From's made. Placidusax is challenging, but fun. Seeing his comebacks in the "boss vs boss" videos is really satisfying lol. Phase 2 annihilates.
You can stagger her pretty easily, not just flinching but I mean actually staggering, but there is a few moves she has that she can't be staggered during. So if you hit her and deplete her "stagger HP" during those moves, she not only won't get staggered, but her stagger HP replenishes back to full again, because it acts like she was staggered. The boss design breaks the rules of the game.
I'd keep it to faster powerstance weapons. bleed especially. She'll get hitstunned from most attacks. The moves you can't hitstun her in (like her kick), if your weapons are fast enough, you can hit her and then roll.
Also apparently if you're not super far away and Melania is rushing you with Waterfowl Dance, you can (while still running) jump to avoid the slices of the first flurry. I don't know how it works, but I saw multiple people running from it and just jumping twice, and that first flurry just... missed lol.
@@JY_TheKai Also bleed and frost procs will cancel her Waterfowl Dance animation. That's how you stopped her that one time.
For her big scarlet flower (Scarlet Aeonia) that she does in phase 2 (because she can use it again and again), if she uses it in front of her, get kinda under her and walk around to make her rotate. She rotates slower than you walk around her, so it'll make her miss completely when she dives down with it.
I think you also died to her summoning clones to attack you. This one is bad because the first clone that you dodge actually stays behind to do ANOTHER attack right after the last clone, and it's so fast that it will hit you out of your roll from dodging the other clone. You want to roll their attacks while running as far from that first clone as possible so that it can't reach you, and then watch out for Melania lunging after that.
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Idk what’s up with it this boss was sooooooo easyyy😏
Once you get the Stockholm syndrome, she's pretty fun. Lol 😆 🤣
She’ll be fun once she’s out of my life 😭💀
She's unreasonably weak to Night Sorceries. She cant register or dodge them. She dodges AFTER she's been hit.
Strat: respec into an INT build. STR / DEX its your choice. Staff of Loss is best but any staff is fine. First look at your staffs requirements before speccing.
Keep the staff in your offhand. Get QuickStep ash of war for your weapon in your main hand. It'll help with dodging. Poke at her with your main weapon when she gets close and hit her with night comet when she's afar.
Godspeed.
I can't respec. once I change my build completely I admit defeat. she doesn't deserve that satisfaction
@@JY_TheKai i dont think anyone could fault you for changing strats. Shes one of the hardest Fromsoft bosses. A series known for putting their player bases collective nuts in a vice. She's an elite amongst elites AND has a second phase with a full health bar. I dont think trying every tool at your disposal is admitting defeat.
Respect your decision though man. Can only really. That bish a baddie FR.
@@randommortal3383 Yea true. She is an asshole tho. I definitely changed up a few things over the next bunch of attempts but didnt do a full respec.
@@JY_TheKai its all good man. Big love from the ZA and stay shinin!
@@randommortal3383thanks dawg I appreciate it