@@MotlierCapitalist owners. Americans aint the problem, there are americans who could be great owners. The issue is the most incompetent ones keep winning cause they have nore money
If only the Glazers had put the ENTIRE club up for sale and taken the highest bid...oh wait. They had the chance to and chose INEOS so that they can stay and keep making a living off of the commercial success of the United name. The last 20 years of ownership has culminated to the stadium rotting, mice infestation, and the inability to produce a consistent product on the pitch. They care more about maximizing the profits in their pockets than actually building something sustainable and it has been so depressing to watch as a fan.
Yeah I remember the hope I had when the glazers were apparently selling and Qatar were "leading" the race to buy the club.. But it was silly of me to have any hope that the glazers would do anything to benefit the club ever
love how Amorim used the leak to make a point in his press conference, this dude is SO charismatic.. to bad he got such a shit deal with Man U.. I'm honestly rooting more for him than for the actual club
United is gonna go the same way Nothingham Forest did. Once a great club, going down and down and down... eventually into obscurity... IF they don't start turning things around, real quick, on all counts--not just on the pitch. The incomptence is mind-blowing. How one man, Alex Ferguson, held together an entire club..... Since he left..... Crumbling.
Its already a forgone conclusion.. its like climate change.. its inevitable at this point through decades of greed, corruption and incompetence.. Kinda fitting united were bought by an oil and gas company.. sorry partly bought because they couldn't even do a financial takeover correctly.. The clubs dead.. and it will remain dead till the glazers and now ineos are out.. the last chance was Qatar and in hindsight I'm not sure why I ever thought that would have a positive outcome because nothing does at united
I think the issue is the Buccaneers had no interest in maintaining the Infrastructure at Old Trafford and Monaco based Tax exile Jim Ratcliffe likes a government subsidy, See Grangemouth Refinery, so won't put his own offshore funds to fix it. The Government already built a stadium in Manchester for the Commonwealth Games known as the City Of Manchester Stadium or now known as the Etihad and the Emirati's are keeping up with renovating that Stadium which stands in stark contrast to Old Trafford which has barely been touched since 2006 and that was underway before the Glazer Family bought the club in 2005. And the Excuse for not getting Old Trafford fixed was they didn't consider a Ground Share viable.
I still haven't forgiven Manchester United for selling me an out of date chocolate bar in the 90s (sounds like a joke but honestly wasn't). So hearing how their stadium is falling apart and finding mice in the food areas, honestly, it fits in my head cannon.
I'm no fan of United, but I think they've managed to seriously strike gold with Amorim, even if by total accident. He comes off as shockingly grounded and competent in every press conference I've seen, and on the pitch he seems willing to experiment and attempt to make the most of everything he's got while still being sufficiently cutthroat. I hope for his sake, United's sake, and the sake of the now floundering Sporting that United commits to Amorim and gives him the resources to realize his long term vision for the club.
They say they need to build a new stadium because Old Trafford is old, but they should have just maintained it better. There are plenty of old stadiums that are in much better condition.
As someone that had to grow up in an era where every other person I knew was a Man United fan (despite not growing up in Manchester) and the amount of arrogance they had because of the constant winning, this last 11 years has been glorious and it’s been coming with how many poor decisions the club has made since Sir Alex retired.
This is a Glazer issue. Old Trafford has been falling apart for a while now. Newcastle's St James's Park was the same under Ashley. The owners do the absolute minimum of maintenance and run the asset into the ground.
i was about 12/13 when moyes was hired, knew he was mid even as a child but how on earth they're WORSE than that moyes season now idek, its an achievement to be average for a generation's entire young adulthood
"This doesn't happen in lower league football" *Vasco da Gama sweating* -Yeah, imagine having rats on you stadium. (But I can't say much, once my club, Botafogo, didn't have training material for the senior squad. The player had to buy to train, lol)
With INEOS failure at running a cycling team, a sport with budgets much lower than football, how would they do it at Manchester United? It's true that the cycling team had a bunch of bad luck (Froome's de-facto career ending crash, Bernal's crash in training, Nicolas Portal's death), but their transfers have been bad and their refusal to create a development team until now has led to a bunch of young riders who weren't World Tour ready being signed (AJ August, Michael Leonard, Theodor Storm) for the first team. David Brailsford, a cycling man through and through, was promoted from leading the cycling team to be director of sports at Ineos (not sure what he's actually achieved in that position), which left a void that's yet to be properly filled. Combine that with the emergence of Pogacar (on the UAE team), Vingegaard (because Visma-LAB are better at scouting) and Evenepoel (QuickStep is one of the "local" teams for him that he grew up following) and their insistence on Grand Tours and you have a recipe for disaster. INEOS aren't good at running sports teams.
I understand that its a savvy business move. But kindly shove it... im so happy to hear someone call out the stranglehold on tax dollars in american sports and calling bs on ratcliffe
I think the funniest thing is watching clubs spending several hundreds of millions and even billions and still fail. Like PSG and their never ending goal of winning the Champions League. When they're sitting in relegation from the competition. That's just hilarious 🤣
Tell me again how Mourinho was the problem? P.S. I ain’t even a Mou guy, fuck him, but United? Ha! Yes, some of the past managers were not ideal for a club who wants to be at the top but the problem has never been managerial, it’s ALWAYS been institutional. Fergie was just a great dictator who kept everyone in line by being old school hardline with glee.
Utd fans have been complaining about the stadium for years now. If you watch the fan channels, the ones where they interview fans outside after the game, its been a point of contention for a long time. And the owners just ignored them. Its gone past the point of refurbishment. They need to build a new one
Being below a 5 star on the food hygeine rating is already pretty bad. Going from a 4 star to a 2 star is even worse. How are their playing staff, their catering staff and their maintenance staff (waterfall) all bad
Sou brasileiro mas não faço ideia. poderia me explicar lol. Tenho mais experiência com futebol de fora porque só comecei a ver futebol de times depois da copa de 14, e não queria nem pensar no futebol do Brasil. Até hoje não consigo torcer mais pela seleção, mesmo tendo começado a ver o Brasileirão.
Truth is United where mediocre even under fergie. He just got the best out of the team. The roof was bad in the late 90s. There was Rodents in the consessions back then too. Nothings changed only the faces and the names.
I may (and probably am) wrong BUT hasnt Man United been one of the top Clubs for earnings? I guess you dont make record profits while doing routine maintenance and the like 🧐
4 days ago I visited Old Trafford and clogged the public toilet, maybe that contributed to the problem.
Blocked toilets.Little to No water pressure upper stretford end. Thats a norm
Old Trafford is gonna be on the next season of Kitchen Nightmares
Honestly would be a good episode
Probably no staff left for Ramsay to scream at. 😂😂😂
What has happened to my glorious club? 13th, rats in OT, 2 star reviews for food poisoning, leaky roofs, terrible players, clueless owners.
Fergie was everything about your club that’s what happened
American owners
for real! what da hell? at this point it feels like someone purposely doing all this
@@MotlierCapitalist owners. Americans aint the problem, there are americans who could be great owners. The issue is the most incompetent ones keep winning cause they have nore money
@@MotlierLiverpool doing mighty fine with American owners
If only the Glazers had put the ENTIRE club up for sale and taken the highest bid...oh wait. They had the chance to and chose INEOS so that they can stay and keep making a living off of the commercial success of the United name. The last 20 years of ownership has culminated to the stadium rotting, mice infestation, and the inability to produce a consistent product on the pitch. They care more about maximizing the profits in their pockets than actually building something sustainable and it has been so depressing to watch as a fan.
Yeah I remember the hope I had when the glazers were apparently selling and Qatar were "leading" the race to buy the club..
But it was silly of me to have any hope that the glazers would do anything to benefit the club ever
That was NEVER ON THE CARDS DUDE! The Glazers wanted their majority ownership AND their position in the NYSE.
Madrid has a ninja turtle, and Manchester United has Splinter 😂
love how Amorim used the leak to make a point in his press conference, this dude is SO charismatic.. to bad he got such a shit deal with Man U.. I'm honestly rooting more for him than for the actual club
its already christmas for us in new zealand so thanks for the present of a video
Red Devils ❌
Rat Devils ✔
I’m a 40 year old Man Utd fan. I remember.
Sir Alex was manager for the first 26 years of my life. It’s been different since then!
Rayn wooney
He was a Center Back for Ireland tho had a decent career for the Welsh U21s
United have fallen off harder than Zealand's running career.
They're probably letting it rot on purpose so they can convince people that building a new stadium is the better option
No they're letting it rot because they don't want to spend the money to fix it or build a new one.. its not 4d chess, it's just greed and incompetence
i had absolutely no clue where he was going with ruin porn holy shit
same
Looks like ManU's finally got those die hard fans they've been looking for!
Bruno brought in the only creatures that listen to him.
Toldya, if that dude is your leader in the dressing room, your issues go deep.
"There's a certain point where it's not as funny anymore."
Oh no! When is that going to be?
They are not mice they are fans but ok
HAHAHAHAHHHHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHA SO FUNNY HOW CAN I BE AS FUNNY AS YOU?
Man Utd: Theatre of Mice
United saw the roof in kenilworth road's toilets collapsing during a game last season and decided to one up Luton.
United is gonna go the same way Nothingham Forest did. Once a great club, going down and down and down... eventually into obscurity...
IF they don't start turning things around, real quick, on all counts--not just on the pitch. The incomptence is mind-blowing.
How one man, Alex Ferguson, held together an entire club..... Since he left..... Crumbling.
Its already a forgone conclusion.. its like climate change.. its inevitable at this point through decades of greed, corruption and incompetence..
Kinda fitting united were bought by an oil and gas company.. sorry partly bought because they couldn't even do a financial takeover correctly..
The clubs dead.. and it will remain dead till the glazers and now ineos are out.. the last chance was Qatar and in hindsight I'm not sure why I ever thought that would have a positive outcome because nothing does at united
Congrats on the new ring light... or a better lamp setup.
The forehead is spitting wisdom once again 🙌 Merry Christmas indeed
I think the issue is the Buccaneers had no interest in maintaining the Infrastructure at Old Trafford and Monaco based Tax exile Jim Ratcliffe likes a government subsidy, See Grangemouth Refinery, so won't put his own offshore funds to fix it. The Government already built a stadium in Manchester for the Commonwealth Games known as the City Of Manchester Stadium or now known as the Etihad and the Emirati's are keeping up with renovating that Stadium which stands in stark contrast to Old Trafford which has barely been touched since 2006 and that was underway before the Glazer Family bought the club in 2005. And the Excuse for not getting Old Trafford fixed was they didn't consider a Ground Share viable.
As a Utd fan he’s spitting
I still haven't forgiven Manchester United for selling me an out of date chocolate bar in the 90s (sounds like a joke but honestly wasn't). So hearing how their stadium is falling apart and finding mice in the food areas, honestly, it fits in my head cannon.
Glazernomics.
Wasn't expecting a random Dark Knight Rises reference about the Pit, but I'm all for it
I'm no fan of United, but I think they've managed to seriously strike gold with Amorim, even if by total accident. He comes off as shockingly grounded and competent in every press conference I've seen, and on the pitch he seems willing to experiment and attempt to make the most of everything he's got while still being sufficiently cutthroat. I hope for his sake, United's sake, and the sake of the now floundering Sporting that United commits to Amorim and gives him the resources to realize his long term vision for the club.
They generally seem to be pretty patient with any manager the last couple of years, I think they'll give him time no matter the outcome
You see, I thought the same thing for ETH but we all saw how that turned out.
My real question is who between Man City and Man United will lose the most by the end of the season???
At least the Glazers let them keep Christmas. Long may it continue.
Bro your channel dope asf
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Rodent problem in the stadium? I thought they named one captain where’s the issue here
(Coming from a bitter struggling City fan)
Come on, that's just a childish remark to make!
Alriiiight as much as I dislike Bruno Fernandes for always showing up against my club nobody should be called vermin. Too far. Retracted 🫥
Well, they ARE owned by a man whose surname begins with "Rat". So nominative determinism strikes again.
They say they need to build a new stadium because Old Trafford is old, but they should have just maintained it better. There are plenty of old stadiums that are in much better condition.
Are the mice humble?
It's nice of Ineos to let Bruno's family stay at the stadium for the holidays
Jim Radcliffe reminds me of Gordon Gecko in Wall Street.
Greed is good vibe.
Glazers have alot to anwser for.
Stadium hasn't even lasted 30 years.
The thing is, Glazers are STILL the owners.
As someone that had to grow up in an era where every other person I knew was a Man United fan (despite not growing up in Manchester) and the amount of arrogance they had because of the constant winning, this last 11 years has been glorious and it’s been coming with how many poor decisions the club has made since Sir Alex retired.
Zealand -> New Zealand
Old Trafford-> New Trafford
Is there a better metaphor for United than it leaking from the top
Im from the era where Henry and France were on the cover of fifa.
Can't have hi-tech at a place called Old Trafford, can we?
Creepy background shadows going on for the first minute or so of that vid lol
I think they just found Bruno and confused him for a rat
it's infested with bad players too 😂
how are there not more comments about zealand casually dropping ''ruin porn'' lmfaooooo
O P T I C S
You know it’s bad when you buy Antony for 95, but not Kudus for 30
The last comment of the video is so funny lol imagine city fans buying up the tickets and booing in powder blue when united plays its home games 😂
The Etihad is being extended, Old Trafford is a mess, looks like it will be Man Utd problem to fix
This is a Glazer issue. Old Trafford has been falling apart for a while now. Newcastle's St James's Park was the same under Ashley. The owners do the absolute minimum of maintenance and run the asset into the ground.
Guess you can call it the Antony effect
i was about 12/13 when moyes was hired, knew he was mid even as a child but how on earth they're WORSE than that moyes season now idek, its an achievement to be average for a generation's entire young adulthood
"This doesn't happen in lower league football"
*Vasco da Gama sweating*
-Yeah, imagine having rats on you stadium.
(But I can't say much, once my club, Botafogo, didn't have training material for the senior squad. The player had to buy to train, lol)
National stadium in the north? Say idk… Saint James Park? One of if not the best stadium for bars and transport on its general area? 52,500 seats? No?
Z, you know that there are *_universities_* in the US that would be mortified if their facilities were this badly maintained.
With INEOS failure at running a cycling team, a sport with budgets much lower than football, how would they do it at Manchester United? It's true that the cycling team had a bunch of bad luck (Froome's de-facto career ending crash, Bernal's crash in training, Nicolas Portal's death), but their transfers have been bad and their refusal to create a development team until now has led to a bunch of young riders who weren't World Tour ready being signed (AJ August, Michael Leonard, Theodor Storm) for the first team.
David Brailsford, a cycling man through and through, was promoted from leading the cycling team to be director of sports at Ineos (not sure what he's actually achieved in that position), which left a void that's yet to be properly filled. Combine that with the emergence of Pogacar (on the UAE team), Vingegaard (because Visma-LAB are better at scouting) and Evenepoel (QuickStep is one of the "local" teams for him that he grew up following) and their insistence on Grand Tours and you have a recipe for disaster.
INEOS aren't good at running sports teams.
even in their prime manchester never felt as big as real to me
so funny coz its true
I understand that its a savvy business move. But kindly shove it... im so happy to hear someone call out the stranglehold on tax dollars in american sports and calling bs on ratcliffe
it's really sad and truly unbelievable. hopefully, it'll get worse.
lol
No mice .... Just bruno
They are really emphasizing the old in old trafford
Is Man U popular in the USA because they have ‘United’ in their name?😂
Every dynasty falls. The only unique thing here is that it/has happened twice in the same city.
Oh, nevermind. ;)
well yeah the king of them is running around with the captains armband on, its only logical more would show up
My club seems to reach new levels of low, year after year.
I think the funniest thing is watching clubs spending several hundreds of millions and even billions and still fail. Like PSG and their never ending goal of winning the Champions League. When they're sitting in relegation from the competition. That's just hilarious 🤣
Give the mice a chance. Maybe they'll play better than what Man United has now
Didn’t Ronaldo say they hadn’t made upgrades to the facilities since he first played there
The utd is cooking to utd is cooked cycle comes around faster and faster
Man Utd is shutting up all those who praised him
Tell me again how Mourinho was the problem? P.S. I ain’t even a Mou guy, fuck him, but United? Ha! Yes, some of the past managers were not ideal for a club who wants to be at the top but the problem has never been managerial, it’s ALWAYS been institutional. Fergie was just a great dictator who kept everyone in line by being old school hardline with glee.
Mourinho tanked everywhere since 2016…near decade
@@j.s3300won a trophy with Roma but ok
Zealand im gonna kiss you on the lips
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Zealand day 1 of asking what team you supported when you got into football ( Merry Christmas)
only person i’ve ever heard say they’re sad manchester city is doing bad earnestly
0:33 *Man United was never better then Bayern*
Utd fans have been complaining about the stadium for years now. If you watch the fan channels, the ones where they interview fans outside after the game, its been a point of contention for a long time. And the owners just ignored them. Its gone past the point of refurbishment. They need to build a new one
Being below a 5 star on the food hygeine rating is already pretty bad. Going from a 4 star to a 2 star is even worse. How are their playing staff, their catering staff and their maintenance staff (waterfall) all bad
pra todo brasileiro que está lendo esse comentário, todo mundo sabe em qual time você pensou quando viu a thumbnail kkkkkkkkkkkkk
Sou brasileiro mas não faço ideia. poderia me explicar lol. Tenho mais experiência com futebol de fora porque só comecei a ver futebol de times depois da copa de 14, e não queria nem pensar no futebol do Brasil. Até hoje não consigo torcer mais pela seleção, mesmo tendo começado a ver o Brasileirão.
@@RikoZN Vasco da Gama, poucos anos atrás houve o mesmo caso no estádio deles, o São Januário, só que foi televisionado ao vivo durante uma partida.
To be fair English bureaucracy is probably preventing quick fixes, Wrexham and Clarkson's Farm show this problem
MANCHESTER CITY ARE SHOCKING.🤯.
Don't forget they moved the women out of there training rooms for the men's team cause to here getting new ones.
I would say Liverpool was the first to have that international recognition. Not a Liverpool fan, just quite a bit older than you 😊 merry Xmas!
Watching Real Madrid fans cry about refereeing is pretty hilarious, true
I could have told you Old Trafford was infested with mice since the signing of Bruno Fernandes.
Speaking of united being cooked...their food rating is downgraded
They're undercooked, if anything.
Old trashford
manu will keep going down until either they have owners that care about the club or being relegated.
If people are still laughing at a clubs downfall for over a decade. Then they're pretty immature.
Truth is United where mediocre even under fergie. He just got the best out of the team. The roof was bad in the late 90s. There was Rodents in the consessions back then too. Nothings changed only the faces and the names.
United isn’t cocked. They are well done with ketchup. They are congratulations level grilled
I may (and probably am) wrong BUT hasnt Man United been one of the top Clubs for earnings? I guess you dont make record profits while doing routine maintenance and the like 🧐
Day 8 of giving Everton a point deduction until zealand acknowledges me
i speak for all Fans Zealand, no one wants to see them ever do well again and their fans are all glory hunters.😂