When Simon said that Horace was his best friend back in the second chapter because neither of them a strong family unit, I never expected the game to follow up on that in such a major way.
SPOILERS FOR SPIRIT OF JUSTICE it was SO MUCH BETTER than the exaggeration of Ga'ran's transformation. She was scary af, and then became an edgy octopus, it wasn't realistic. Simon on the other hand, pfff what a perfect transformation.
Extremmefan (*12 hours later*) Well, here's the way I see it. Out of all the main villains so far, with the exception of Dahlia Hawthorne and maybe the Phantom, Simon's probably the most methodical, intense, manipulative, and interesting villain I've seen thus far... oh, and that "criteria" was just a joke.
SuperStachey eightnineeightnine Heh. Finally an argument that makes at least a tiny bit of sense. Also, if he's less "methodical, intense, manipulative, and interesting" than Dahlia and maybe the Phantom, what exactly makes him "epic"?
Extremmefan Ah, sorry about that, I meant that he was more methodical, intense, manipulative, and interesting than Dahlia and the Phantom. I should've placed that "maybe" at an earlier place. You see, while Dahlia or the Phantom are the first three of those things, Simon was the first villain who retains interest, before the climax and afterwards. His backstory is really good, he orchestrated everyone's death in the game except two, he manages to manipulate Edgeworth even after he reveals himself, his breakdown was pretty inventive, the list goes on. Plus, the effect he has on Edgeworth by the end of the game is fairly significant, once again calling upon what it means to prosecute and attorn.
SuperStachey eightnineeightnine --> "retains interest before the climax and afterwards" - purely subjective, but whatever. Not a good criteria either. Also, both three of them keeps the tension high both before and after the climax. --> "good backstory" - The hell defines "good", here? If we're talking about sadness, Dahlia takes the cake. If we're talking about professionalism, The Phantom takes the cake. --> "manipulate after reveal" - Both Dahlia and the Phantom are somewhat able to manipulate Phoenix after their reveal, too. --> "inventive breakdown" - Quite literally wrong. The Phantom's breakdown has all rocks with most likely differents "faces" of his falling around him, and Dahlia's involves the afterlife aka hell, in the form the Magatama's flames. --> "list goes on" - Implying there's more. --> "Endgame effect" - Matt Engarde V2, Hurr Durr. They quite literally both revoke the protagonist's position (for Phoenix, it was whether he was worth his attorney skills or not, so kinda similar).
"Isn't there someone like that here? A poor soul who was wrongly accused in the past?" I think Simon was talking about himself, but that phrase also fits Gumshoe, Kay, Courtney, John Marsh, Nicole, Skye, and Edgeworth himself... twice! Special mention goes to Lotta who is momentarily suspected in several cases but never tried, and Regina who literally caused two people to be mauled by a Lion.
***** He's pretty much the only exception. Everywhere else we have Simon, Dimentio, Sander Cohen, Kefka, the Joker... just to name a few of the MANY examples. Poor Moe, he ends up with the lousy crowd.
Chaos Controller True enough. Still, you have to give credit to Moe for not only keeping the Circus going after the ringmaster died, but also (supposedly) improving the circus as well. Still, Clowns do fall under that trope, don't they? Granted if you type in "Tv Tropes" & "Clowns" they have quite a good number of articles.
Damn, I don't know about you guys, but Simon is a brilliant villain. His plan was amazingly genius, and I love his dialogue! He sounds like the Joker (looks like him too)! I don't know if he beats Gant for that top spot, but he is in my top 5 for sure.
ProsecutorGodot Most people agree that he is an amazing villain in the Ace Attorney series. *Spoilers for most Ace Attorney games including SoJ below* Unlike most other huge masterminds (Gant, Engarde, Alba, The Phantom, Ga'ran), he doesn't come from a position of any power. Gant was the chief of police! He had power to influence things like evidence and change outcomes of things, he had authority. Engarde had his fame and money. Alba was an ambassador with extraterritorial rights. The Phantom was an international spy trained to kill and escape unnoticed. And then there's Ga'ran Sigatar Khura'in, SHE'S A F*CKING QUEEN! She has the power to rewrite the law on a whim! If it wasn't for Apollo, she'd get off scott-free! But Simon? He's an ordinary person who suffered most of his life. He doesn't have any power but his small resources and manipulation, he can't rewrite laws, he can't hide evidence and get away with it. And most of all he can't slip away from crimes due to a higher position (Like Blaise and Gant have). Yeah, he was the best Case 5 villain in Ace Attorney imo.
I don't totally write-off the "villains in power" like you, but I didn't like Ga'ran so much because she was just a copy of Damon Gant, in my opinion. My biggest pet peeve is when I see the same thing over again, when it was supposed to be something different. Phantom was lame. I look more at personality and originality, mroe than anything else. If it's someone in power, but they use it differently than someone else, then I will love them. Like for example, Gant knew how to use his power. He was a beast at that.
The best part is that he WON. The body double was killed, Roland and Debeste were thrown in jail, and he gets to live in the gold-laden prison with Dogen.
Seriously. Edgeworth vs the Mastermind... is Batman vs Joker. I mean just *look* at them!! Edgeworth fighting for justice against the corrupted court system is just like Batman, and they both had their parents shot in front of them. And Simon, the brilliant clown manipulator... "all it takes is a little push!" - just like the Joker. It doesn't make it any less entertaining though.
I feel like every Ace Attorney Game needs a game-wide mastermind now... We've had Kristoph Gavin (not really, just two cases), "Bobby Fulbright," Quercus Alba, and now this guy.
utopiapro007 You want a real series-wide mastermind ? Fucking Blaise Debeste. This guy is the cause for pretty much every important case in the series if you think about it.
+ShycoWar Blaise penalized Manfred, leading to DL-6, which in turn led Miles to becoming a prosecutor, and that case made Misty leave (Redd White) making Mia a defense attorney, which led to Mia defending Phoenix against Hawthorne, inspiring Phoenix to become a defense attorney. Phoenix's fame defending Edgeworth against Manfred led Ema to hire Phoenix to defend Lana (SL-9), ending the first game. Phoenix's reputation also inspired a young boy named Apollo Justice to become a defense attorney with Kristoph Gavin, until Phoenix and Apollo proved that Gavin was a fake. This led to the events of Apollo Justice (Kristoph Gavin), and thus the fourth game ends. Realizing the wrong of his ways, Miles traveled to Asia, leading to the fifth game (Quercus Alba) and this game, where Blaise is actually introduced. Then, Miles travels back to Dual Destinies, where he teams up with Phoenix, Apollo, Athena, and Blackquill against (SPOILERS). In other words, Blaise sparked DL-6, Redd White, Dahlia Hawthorne, SL-9, Kristoph Gavin (kinda), Quercus Alba, and SPOILERS.
But why was Blaise involved? It's all Gustavia's fault! If he hadn't murdered Dover, then Blaise wouldn't have needed to give Von Karma a penalty. You know the rest.
I could see how Simon thought Miles was motivated by idolizing his father rather than basic altruism: Simon saw how Ray berated Miles for following Von Karma's ways & how hard Miles pushed himself to prove Ray wrong in Case 2. Most cases also had very personal stakes for Miles - which Simon assumed was the only reason he'd get involved in a case for.
Ya know, everyone blames Blaise or Gustavia for being one to push the domino of doom, but didn't everything start because Dover was such a greedy jerk? :D
ShadowoftheMask you can say that,but those people were evil in their heart sooner or later they would've done something horrible ,just look at their choices they're all horrible
ShadowoftheMask Both of them are terrible, one blackmailed another and the another murdered that one,well same as their sons, well guess they perfectly reflected how their fathers are
@Hawar ka Dude, Dover had his son capture Gustavia's, and set Gustavia into a situation where his very livelihood was at stake... The whole thing started at Dover's hands. Gustavia wouldn't have killed him if he hadn't tried to blackmail him. Every action someone else is at fault for can be tied back to Dover's crimes as a motivator. It's all Dover's fault.
but didnt everything start with us becoming monkeys? or if youre spiritual didnt we become some gods clay? or christianic didn't we originate from Adam and Eve?
Man. This game had me feeling sorry toward a lot of people. Simon. Knightly. Edgeworth (both of them). Ray. Courtney. Sebastian. Lang. Even Manfred von Karma.
***** I guess because Blaise fucked him over to save his own ass in the day of the DL-6 incident. They were all in the evidence forging bullshit yet von Karma took all the blame. Him taking revenge on Greg is a whole different beast, but Blaise was even worse, fucking over a fellow asshole.
***** Let's put it this way: Blaise slapping von Karma with the penalty did nothing to help his mental state. Think that was one of the things that motivatedhim to actually kill Gregory. Maybe if they didn't drag it out for a year. Maybe if both von Karma and Gregory knew the truth. If anything, Blaise totally screwed Manfred over by hiding the fact that the body was missing. The forged evidence and forced confession was a result of that. I might have to watch case 3 again because I was under the impression that as menacing and intimidating Manfred von Karma was, he didn't "knowingly" forge evidence or break the law to get a guilty verdict but still played dirty (much like Edgeworth was before his reformation). That might have been a turning point for Manfred. Or I spent might have spent WAAAAAAAY too much time thinking about it.
overseer06 Manfred had already been known to forge and conceal evidence before meeting Gregory. The thing was Manfred had gotten away with it for so long due to the trust he had in Blaise and control he had over many cases that when Blaise himself slaps him with his first penalty....Manfred's reputation finally tanked and further took the blame for all forge and concealed evidence as SigmaXVirus mentioned. Either way, still don't like him.
This guy... I never imagine that ALL the story of each case in this game would link together that leads into one giant gathering for an epic conclusion.
honestly that quote could work for something along the lines of "when your parents gave you an ace attorney game but its not Phoenix Wright" kind of meme.
I feel bad for both Horace and Simon tbh. Horace was forced by his own dad to kidnap his best friend, then lost his memories and ended up getting killed by someone he’s trusted for 18 years. Simon’s whole life was fucked up and he killed Horace over a misunderstanding. Reading his last lines to Horace it’s clear that he didn’t want to kill the guy either (“if only you didn’t do that 18 years ago…”) but he’s in too deep to back down
Poor Regina... After understanding that Bat is at the hospital by her fault, she now know that a second person of the Big Berry Circus is a bad guy... I know a lot of people hate her, but I have a lot of empathy for her.
Love how Simon already has his face paint on by the time Edgeworth and co. confront him. Now I won't even get to see his true face without the makeup, not that it's hard to picture at all. And what's this? He even has his own "Objection!" We've had attorneys, police, and an ambassador with that, but I would not have expected someone from the circus, even if he has pulled strings from various departments.
Yet again, it sounds like to me another allusion towards the Joker from DC. Fittingly his opponent is Ace Attorney Batman. And Kay Faraday is Robin. The Tim Drake one. And Gumshoe is the Dick Grayson Robin. Franny is basically Batgirl. Lang is Commissioner Gordon. And if you think about it, Quercus Alba is Ra'Zhal Ghul! with Shih-na being his beautiful advisor who screws around with Edgeworth twice.
Filip Melzacki I really don't know, honestly. It'd have to coincide with a Batman character who thinks he's the "better" batman, but is really an incompetant idiot who has to have the actual gruntwork done by someone more experienced than him.
If Gyakuten Kenji ever got an anime adaptation, I'd like Miyano Mamoru to be the one to voice Simon Keyes. Think about it, he could go from Tamaki Suoh to Light Yagami real quick. LOL.
This entire circus of a game had a chain of interconnecting plots all following one after the other, in ascending order of bizzare nature. So it's only fitting that the curtain would arise on the final stage of this act which is the circus itself, and Edgeworth strikes against the ringleader of this mad carnival, intent on closing the act. Realising that nobody's buying his masterful tug at their hearts with his act of wounded feelings, "The Great Monster" finally drops the act and takes off the mask.
3:034:19 It also explains why Edgeworth insists on suspecting Athena of her guilt in Dual Destinies case5, despite Phoenix's insistence that she is pitiful and said that Edgeworth has "Gone too far" . One cannot judge a person's good and evil by his appearance alone
yeah he still sees Simon as a victim even by the end of the game. He knows he is messed up but he also knows that he was forced to become that way to survive.
@@MokonaModokiES can imagine in Simon Gustavis' shoes that he is being haunted down by officials and a president of another country that would try to find and kill him for witnessing that assassination and saving Mr Dogen and he had no one to trust for protection. That would make someone loose humanity that extreme.
Gundham probably be like: How could an ignorant fool like you confuse my powerful and vicious Dark Devas of Destruction with those foul and rebellious tree climbers!
Unpopular opinion and old meme I know but Simon is the best clown in any Ace attorney game so far in my opinion. He isn’t too annoying unlike moe, is not a complete simp for Regina unlike max, and is a smarter and better culprit than geiru.
Even if Simon is a killed and an horrible person for motivating both Knightley and Crane’s murders, adding Kay and John’s kidnappings...i fully understand why he did this and why he becoming like this. All of this were incidentally caused because Knightley and Simon’s fathers were two horrible persons to begin with: Dover for ordering his own son to "abduct" his friend just because he didn’t want Simon to taste his dad’s dessert and Gustavia for murdering Dover cause of that without even thinking of his son first. At final, Doghen is incidentally the only one who really understand Simon even if he’s a criminal, it’s obvious he really cared about him after Simon saved his life. And the fact Simon was Gustavia’s son, the son of the true culprit behind IS-7 incident and the one who first ruined his life, it’s understandable to see why Simon turned like this, to a manipulative guy who can easily manipulate both humans and animals to satisfy his desire of revenge. I think he’s really one of the best villains, all games confounded, with his motive and his plan. So yeah, he’s an horrible criminal but his backstory and the fact everything could have been change (well, not the presidential assassination and maybe Cameron and Doghen’s murders if Simon didn’t saved him) if Dover and Gustavia weren’t complete b*stards to begin with; their son would probably all be alive and living an happy life if the IS-7 incident will never happened. Yeah, karma is a b*tch.
You just know he’s going to have so many fan girls if this game gets localised. That ‘I can fix him’ appeal seems to be very strong in the AA fanbase lol
@@nicolaslimac He’s not sociopathic. He fits the definition of a psychopath more. But I don’t think he’s bad at all because everyone he killed or led to be arrested (except Jill Crane) deserved it
So I start up this video, and to the right of the screen I see an ad from Amazon.com for Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth. Yep, that's not odd in the slightest.
It might be a stretch, but it feels like even Regina was affected by the whole daddy issues theme becaus if it weren't for Turnabout Big Top, she'd probably defended Simon rather than being immediately helpful in getting him indicted.
So I got spoiled on him being the mastermind behind this... Nobody told me that he could make any animal do anything for amusement! Also that tranformation was left-field
32:56 hes going crazy. after realizing he's killed his friend for nothing, over a simple ass misunderstanding, he lost it, he's no longer Simon the one kid who had Knightley as his best friend, he's Simon, the Mastermind.
Kay might as well be robin cause the raven badge she wears is a bird. At least Simon didn't kill her with a crowbar and blew her up. And didn't turn John into two face.
Last Son of Tennessee Whoa wait a minute... is Alba the Penguin? But wait, this being about Batman conflicts with my idea that Miles is Fred, Franziska is Velma, Kay is Daphne, Gumshoe is Shaggy, and Lang is Scooby Doo. That's why they made that Scooby Doo reference at the end of the first Investigations game, right? The localization team had to have noticed the resemblance. But it turns out the series is actually an allusion to Batman? I don't know what to think any more...
Actually, Miles being Batman makes a lot of sense. He's rational, focused and tends to be unemotional and have difficulty connecting with people. And he has a good friend who wears blue all the time, is deeply concerned about people and about justice, but who tends to be a little naive. In other words, Phoenix is Superman.
(I'm going to babble about simon keyes and it'd not make sense but, I've been waiting to write like an essay for so long about him but i didnt have anyone to talk because none of my friend played AAI nor even the saga) I actually think simon's story and character is very interesting, as a character he's introduced like a timid and coward person to gain your trust because, well people tend to feel sorry about people like that and he knew about that, that's why i think the sudden change makes sense because the simon everyone knows was just a shield to protect him from being seem as bad And the change, i recall this from another comment from another video, is about how he changed and looked very different like, it was not truly him (it was because of the makeup and different clothes), i do think capcom made that intentionally not only to make him look more intimidating but also tricks you thinking the simon you knew is not the same, you cannot even imagine (at least for me) how the true simon could look without makeup and the clown clothes, which i find that very cool and i think he's a very good mastermind, even above daliah, because, he didnt have any power like blaise, nor money nor status, he's just a simple animal tamer and when the opportunity came he used it and planned everything, and what i found more endearing about him is the fact he made mistakes like all of us making him look more human. His story and those mistakes made him look more human and you can feel bad for him because of that, he was a clever mastermind but he was still a person (it's 5:43 am and im just hyperfixating sorry maybe i could have written better this but it just some babble from my mind rn)
Watching Simon just outwit Edgeworth is so much more entertaining than it was with Alba... At least Simon is entertaining and I don't (yet) want to bludgeon him with my hairbrush. In other news... Ray is just too awesome for words, and Kay's what I assume to be pseudo-German accent made me laugh. And... uh... okay supposing the double really was going to kill Courtney... why in the name of the Judge's brother's excellent playoff beard did he send her away ahead of him?
Ellie F. And yet, you can't help but feel sorry for the guy. He was driven to this state of revenge-seeking manipulator because his childhood was broken and he couldn't trust the law to help him.
Why the double sent Courtney away? Simple. Simon came flying just then and the double did not want a witness to the murder, so he planned to take the balloon down. Also, he did not want Courtney to be a witness to the double taking down the balloon.
canadmexi As a whole I would say in some aspects all of the AAI main antagonist are some of the best I've ever seen in games. I would say even that some of the antaganist in the main series pale in comparison to guys like Blaise and Alba from the last game. I will say if i made a list there are certain people I would put in from the AA games, but those two would be top five.
canadmexi Yeah, these are the true most villainous of the AA series: Damon Gant Manfred von Karma Matt Enguarde Misty Fey Dahlia Hawthrone Kristoph Gavin Ambassador Alba Blaise Debeste Simon Keyes The Phantom
Phoenix is incredibly talented at perisisting when unlimited levels of garbage is thrown at him one aftwr the other, but often none of his cases connect to each other. the most impressive things Phoenix has done i'd say is take down the chief of police, and take down the man who never lost for 40 years. Edgeworth has prevented TWO international incidents, and taken down a president of a country, as well as Simon, arguably the craftiest criminal ever
blaise was entertaining as hell. je was written that was because he didnt give a fuck. as evidences by the fact that he never got nervous until he was completely caught.
So basically, Investigations' main root of incidents was because of Alba, and Investigation 2 is because of Simon? Welp, the people I blame are Dover and Byrn- I-I mean... Nvm. XD
Yoo same. He's the definition of the character trope of "He did nothing wrong". Everything was against him and it's only natural he'd want revenge so bad.
~10:00 There's a stretch: balloons can't be controlled horizontally beyond using the wind gusts. So one cannot do precise movement with them - including passing a building.
Although Knightley was responsible for his own crime of killing Rook, I can't help but feel like Keyes anger at him is kinda misplaced. 18 years of resentment against his former best friend ... All because little kid Knightley was coerced by his douche father Isaac Dover? Keyes even says that kid Knightley was crying and apologizing that his father ordered him to capture Keyes back then. Seems like Keyes should have realized that Knightley didn't want to betray his friend. And Keyes conveniently somehow also forgot that Gustavia was his own father, so he blamed Knightley again for a misplaced reason - because Knightley wasn't the son of the Gustavia at all! Not to mention that Knightley was only 8 and Keyes was only 6 back then; it's not like 8 year old Knightley intentionally wanted to betray his friend.
Conveniently forgetting had nothing to do with it. They both suffered from memory loss after nearly freezing to death. His muddled memories led him to think Dover was his father, because he was trapped to sabotage his father and thought the death of Dover was caused by Knightley's father. To Simon, Knightley's actions led to everything wrong in his life. But he quickly shifts to claiming he doesn't care about his father after realising his true identity. His suffering caused him to develop a victim complex, which he used to justify his crimes and ugly character.
Simon Keyes was such an amazing villain! They hint really hard at it, but you like him so much that you never connect the dots. Kind of like (spoiler for the fan case Ace Attorney: Contempt of Court) Robert Snow. Wait..... THEY BOTH DO VOICE IMPRESSIONS, MANIPULATE EVERYONE, AND HAVE A MAJOR TRANSFORMATION TO THEIR PERSONALITY AND APPEARANCE AT THE END!!!! AAAAAAH!!!
31:32 oh my god oh my god. Poor Simon. All because of a misunderstanding. Knightley.... he loved his friend so much he was even looking forward to his next chess move even in prison... im gonna cry..
Dude. I thought Gustavia was cool, but Simon's frickin' badass too! Guy took out both Roland and Debeste by tricking both of them into doing murders to make them quietly disappear from his life, heck yeah! For once, an actually believable motivation, like a father, like son!
34:38 and just like how Flowey says in the hit game Undertale (2015), *it's kill or be killed!* I love his motive for villiany. The writers really went off the bat for this game.
I wanted to feel sorry for Simon, with the whole being locked up in the car and ditched by his dad thing… But after betraying Knightley? Fuck him. There's a special place in Hell for those who backstab their friends. Not as huge of an asshole as Isaac Dover or Blaise maybe, but definitely up there.
Knightley did kidnap Simon and lock him in a car though... He may have been told to do it by his dad, but he's not completely innocent. Knightley is also responsible for ruining Simon's entire life, leading him to nearly die, get sent to an orphanage to be interrogated by Patricia and then be on the run from the corrupt police force for his entire childhood, utterly traumatizing him and preventing him from being able to trust anyone.
windwaker407 ehm Horace was a 6 years old little kid! how he could understand the severity of the situation? he was also victim of abuse from his father
The worst thing about it is when you realize situations like this leading to murder, sometimes happen in real life, when you look past how crazy Ace Attorney can get… I think that's the part that hits the most for me, and lets me forgive Knightley. I've seen stories of people being threatened to kill another or keep quiet about something, and it's worse when it's a child.
5:15 This was the moment when Edgeworth realized that his ultimate opponent was not a clown, but the entire circus
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And after the case, Simon would become the prison's Carnival.
First Acro, then Simon. How does Money the Monkey always end up around murderers for some reason?!?!
Money is the true mastermind of it all, corrupting good people.
This comment made my day.
@@majinshadow0516 OMG XD
Pl9t twist :He's the actual killer
Because money is a common motive for murder
When Simon said that Horace was his best friend back in the second chapter because neither of them a strong family unit, I never expected the game to follow up on that in such a major way.
Big suprise
If I hadn't been trained by Homestuck and AA:I, I would have to agree
True
Such a satisfying twist, when it makes sense but you still never saw it coming
Also the fact that he didn't seemed to pretend being shocked when he knew he killed Knightley for nothing
That transformation was FABULOUS.
And terrifying. I wouldn't want to end up on his bad side.
It gave me a laugh, for sure!
SPOILERS FOR SPIRIT OF JUSTICE
it was SO MUCH BETTER than the exaggeration of Ga'ran's transformation. She was scary af, and then became an edgy octopus, it wasn't realistic. Simon on the other hand, pfff what a perfect transformation.
@@ivanvperez another Spoilers From Justice For All Matt Enguard has a True Aparence
5:20 You know you are THAT cool/badass/evil mastermind that you can make an armrest by commanding animals.
39:16. Simon Keyes: a villain so epic, he actually USES the word "turnabout".
+SuperStachey eightnineeightnine (*8 months later*)
That's the most biased judgement I've ever seen (and also the worst criteria ever)
Extremmefan (*12 hours later*)
Well, here's the way I see it. Out of all the main villains so far, with the exception of Dahlia Hawthorne and maybe the Phantom, Simon's probably the most methodical, intense, manipulative, and interesting villain I've seen thus far... oh, and that "criteria" was just a joke.
SuperStachey eightnineeightnine Heh. Finally an argument that makes at least a tiny bit of sense. Also, if he's less "methodical, intense, manipulative, and interesting" than Dahlia and maybe the Phantom, what exactly makes him "epic"?
Extremmefan Ah, sorry about that, I meant that he was more methodical, intense, manipulative, and interesting than Dahlia and the Phantom. I should've placed that "maybe" at an earlier place. You see, while Dahlia or the Phantom are the first three of those things, Simon was the first villain who retains interest, before the climax and afterwards. His backstory is really good, he orchestrated everyone's death in the game except two, he manages to manipulate Edgeworth even after he reveals himself, his breakdown was pretty inventive, the list goes on.
Plus, the effect he has on Edgeworth by the end of the game is fairly significant, once again calling upon what it means to prosecute and attorn.
SuperStachey eightnineeightnine
--> "retains interest before the climax and afterwards"
- purely subjective, but whatever. Not a good criteria either. Also, both three of them keeps the tension high both before and after the climax.
--> "good backstory"
- The hell defines "good", here? If we're talking about sadness, Dahlia takes the cake. If we're talking about professionalism, The Phantom takes the cake.
--> "manipulate after reveal"
- Both Dahlia and the Phantom are somewhat able to manipulate Phoenix after their reveal, too.
--> "inventive breakdown"
- Quite literally wrong. The Phantom's breakdown has all rocks with most likely differents "faces" of his falling around him, and Dahlia's involves the afterlife aka hell, in the form the Magatama's flames.
--> "list goes on"
- Implying there's more.
--> "Endgame effect"
- Matt Engarde V2, Hurr Durr. They quite literally both revoke the protagonist's position (for Phoenix, it was whether he was worth his attorney skills or not, so kinda similar).
Wow the Berry Big Circus must be cursed along with gourd lake i mean how many crimes have happened there geez
2 crimes(the crimes that I know) 1.Turnabout Goodbyes
2.The Case before this case
@@thelucasbrothers6662 its turnabout big top not turnabout goodbyes
@@void3267 goodbyes is gourd lake that's why it was mentioned.
@@betheone4837 the inherited turnabout
4/5 IIRC.
2 crimes before Turnabout Big Top, Turnabout Big Top itself, and this. Unless I am forgetting one
"Isn't there someone like that here? A poor soul who was wrongly accused in the past?"
I think Simon was talking about himself, but that phrase also fits Gumshoe, Kay, Courtney, John Marsh, Nicole, Skye, and Edgeworth himself... twice! Special mention goes to Lotta who is momentarily suspected in several cases but never tried, and Regina who literally caused two people to be mauled by a Lion.
I think he was talking about max, the defendant of turnabout big top
**sighs** Video game rule number one:
NEVER.
EVER.
TRUST.
THE.
CLOWN.
Lol
Thank goodness I do t play games that much.
***** He's pretty much the only exception. Everywhere else we have Simon, Dimentio, Sander Cohen, Kefka, the Joker... just to name a few of the MANY examples. Poor Moe, he ends up with the lousy crowd.
Chaos Controller True enough. Still, you have to give credit to Moe for not only keeping the Circus going after the ringmaster died, but also (supposedly) improving the circus as well.
Still, Clowns do fall under that trope, don't they? Granted if you type in "Tv Tropes" & "Clowns" they have quite a good number of articles.
that is also rule number 1 in movies, book, tv shows and poetry
B-But... But Moe's funny, right? ...RIGHT?? ...Dangit, you're right.
Damn, I don't know about you guys, but Simon is a brilliant villain. His plan was amazingly genius, and I love his dialogue! He sounds like the Joker (looks like him too)! I don't know if he beats Gant for that top spot, but he is in my top 5 for sure.
ProsecutorGodot Most people agree that he is an amazing villain in the Ace Attorney series. *Spoilers for most Ace Attorney games including SoJ below*
Unlike most other huge masterminds (Gant, Engarde, Alba, The Phantom, Ga'ran), he doesn't come from a position of any power. Gant was the chief of police! He had power to influence things like evidence and change outcomes of things, he had authority. Engarde had his fame and money. Alba was an ambassador with extraterritorial rights. The Phantom was an international spy trained to kill and escape unnoticed. And then there's Ga'ran Sigatar Khura'in, SHE'S A F*CKING QUEEN! She has the power to rewrite the law on a whim! If it wasn't for Apollo, she'd get off scott-free! But Simon? He's an ordinary person who suffered most of his life. He doesn't have any power but his small resources and manipulation, he can't rewrite laws, he can't hide evidence and get away with it. And most of all he can't slip away from crimes due to a higher position (Like Blaise and Gant have). Yeah, he was the best Case 5 villain in Ace Attorney imo.
I don't totally write-off the "villains in power" like you, but I didn't like Ga'ran so much because she was just a copy of Damon Gant, in my opinion. My biggest pet peeve is when I see the same thing over again, when it was supposed to be something different. Phantom was lame. I look more at personality and originality, mroe than anything else. If it's someone in power, but they use it differently than someone else, then I will love them. Like for example, Gant knew how to use his power. He was a beast at that.
*@WarlockDustin'* ~ To your Spoiler paragraph, it would making Simon a Badass Normal being a mastermind villain.
To me,Ga'ran felt like a watered down Manfred Von Karma.
The best part is that he WON. The body double was killed, Roland and Debeste were thrown in jail, and he gets to live in the gold-laden prison with Dogen.
Seriously. Edgeworth vs the Mastermind... is Batman vs Joker. I mean just *look* at them!!
Edgeworth fighting for justice against the corrupted court system is just like Batman, and they both had their parents shot in front of them. And Simon, the brilliant clown manipulator... "all it takes is a little push!" - just like the Joker. It doesn't make it any less entertaining though.
Not to mention that Simon even wears a red hood at one point.
+CheesyGranola If my memory serves me correctly the Joker was once called the Redhod
This adds a new context for Ray Shields asking them "Why so serious?", and I like it.
lmao
Wait, does that mean Regina is Harley Queen? XD Seriously, good job finding theses similarities!
I feel like every Ace Attorney Game needs a game-wide mastermind now... We've had Kristoph Gavin (not really, just two cases), "Bobby Fulbright," Quercus Alba, and now this guy.
And Dahlia Hawthorne...sort of.
MrLordNeptune That's more series-wide, but Ok.
utopiapro007 You want a real series-wide mastermind ?
Fucking Blaise Debeste.
This guy is the cause for pretty much every important case in the series if you think about it.
+ShycoWar
Blaise penalized Manfred, leading to DL-6, which in turn led Miles to becoming a prosecutor, and that case made Misty leave (Redd White) making Mia a defense attorney, which led to Mia defending Phoenix against Hawthorne, inspiring Phoenix to become a defense attorney. Phoenix's fame defending Edgeworth against Manfred led Ema to hire Phoenix to defend Lana (SL-9), ending the first game. Phoenix's reputation also inspired a young boy named Apollo Justice to become a defense attorney with Kristoph Gavin, until Phoenix and Apollo proved that Gavin was a fake. This led to the events of Apollo Justice (Kristoph Gavin), and thus the fourth game ends. Realizing the wrong of his ways, Miles traveled to Asia, leading to the fifth game (Quercus Alba) and this game, where Blaise is actually introduced. Then, Miles travels back to Dual Destinies, where he teams up with Phoenix, Apollo, Athena, and Blackquill against (SPOILERS).
In other words, Blaise sparked DL-6, Redd White, Dahlia Hawthorne, SL-9, Kristoph Gavin (kinda), Quercus Alba, and SPOILERS.
But why was Blaise involved?
It's all Gustavia's fault!
If he hadn't murdered Dover, then Blaise wouldn't have needed to give Von Karma a penalty. You know the rest.
I could see how Simon thought Miles was motivated by idolizing his father rather than basic altruism: Simon saw how Ray berated Miles for following Von Karma's ways & how hard Miles pushed himself to prove Ray wrong in Case 2. Most cases also had very personal stakes for Miles - which Simon assumed was the only reason he'd get involved in a case for.
Ya know, everyone blames Blaise or Gustavia for being one to push the domino of doom, but didn't everything start because Dover was such a greedy jerk? :D
ShadowoftheMask you can say that,but those people were evil in their heart sooner or later they would've done something horrible ,just look at their choices they're all horrible
Hawar ka
Not disagreeing with that, just amused by that people are preferring to blame Gustavia rather than Dover :D
ShadowoftheMask Both of them are terrible, one blackmailed another and the another murdered that one,well same as their sons, well guess they perfectly reflected how their fathers are
@Hawar ka Dude, Dover had his son capture Gustavia's, and set Gustavia into a situation where his very livelihood was at stake... The whole thing started at Dover's hands. Gustavia wouldn't have killed him if he hadn't tried to blackmail him. Every action someone else is at fault for can be tied back to Dover's crimes as a motivator. It's all Dover's fault.
but didnt everything start with us becoming monkeys? or if youre spiritual didnt we become some gods clay? or christianic didn't we originate from Adam and Eve?
Man. This game had me feeling sorry toward a lot of people. Simon. Knightly. Edgeworth (both of them). Ray. Courtney. Sebastian. Lang. Even Manfred von Karma.
Manfred?!?!? I can understand the rest by why Manfred?!?!
*****
I guess because Blaise fucked him over to save his own ass in the day of the DL-6 incident. They were all in the evidence forging bullshit yet von Karma took all the blame. Him taking revenge on Greg is a whole different beast, but Blaise was even worse, fucking over a fellow asshole.
That's valid. In that case it makes sense to "kinda" feel sorry for him. Kinda....
***** Let's put it this way: Blaise slapping von Karma with the penalty did nothing to help his mental state. Think that was one of the things that motivatedhim to actually kill Gregory. Maybe if they didn't drag it out for a year. Maybe if both von Karma and Gregory knew the truth.
If anything, Blaise totally screwed Manfred over by hiding the fact that the body was missing. The forged evidence and forced confession was a result of that.
I might have to watch case 3 again because I was under the impression that as menacing and intimidating Manfred von Karma was, he didn't "knowingly" forge evidence or break the law to get a guilty verdict but still played dirty (much like Edgeworth was before his reformation). That might have been a turning point for Manfred. Or I spent might have spent WAAAAAAAY too much time thinking about it.
overseer06 Manfred had already been known to forge and conceal evidence before meeting Gregory. The thing was Manfred had gotten away with it for so long due to the trust he had in Blaise and control he had over many cases that when Blaise himself slaps him with his first penalty....Manfred's reputation finally tanked and further took the blame for all forge and concealed evidence as SigmaXVirus mentioned.
Either way, still don't like him.
This guy...
I never imagine that ALL the story of each case in this game would link together that leads into one giant gathering for an epic conclusion.
39:32 "You should be grateful! I gave you the chance to play the ace attorney!"
Anyone else noticed the second meaning (and the second recipient)?
honestly that quote could work for something along the lines of "when your parents gave you an ace attorney game but its not Phoenix Wright" kind of meme.
Damn, I wish I had Simon Keyes' objection. That was badass.
Oh my Gawrsh! It's Matt Engarde 2.0
Yea exactly like him with the act, the kidnapping, the reveal, the creepy face.... EVERYTHING
Kassia Gamer But a better version of Matt
Is Matt Engarde but with a true motivation, not just being a f****ng sociopath
*TIME FOR U TO MEET THE rEaL SIMON KEYES*
Never trust airheads
I feel bad for both Horace and Simon tbh. Horace was forced by his own dad to kidnap his best friend, then lost his memories and ended up getting killed by someone he’s trusted for 18 years. Simon’s whole life was fucked up and he killed Horace over a misunderstanding. Reading his last lines to Horace it’s clear that he didn’t want to kill the guy either (“if only you didn’t do that 18 years ago…”) but he’s in too deep to back down
Poor Regina... After understanding that Bat is at the hospital by her fault, she now know that a second person of the Big Berry Circus is a bad guy... I know a lot of people hate her, but I have a lot of empathy for her.
Love how Simon already has his face paint on by the time Edgeworth and co. confront him. Now I won't even get to see his true face without the makeup, not that it's hard to picture at all. And what's this? He even has his own "Objection!" We've had attorneys, police, and an ambassador with that, but I would not have expected someone from the circus, even if he has pulled strings from various departments.
Well he was closely following blaise so maybe he picked it up from him
Omg Simon's objection is gold.
simon using edgeworths "objection" was so creepy....
“I gave you this chance to play the ace attorney”
Is Simon talking to Edgeworth or us the player?
Lol
thats both direct and indirect to both us and edgeworth at the same time....
His sudden personality change threw me for a loop, there.
Haha Ray said "Why so serious?" And Simon is in the clown uniform I found that funny and Tsk tsk At last we see Simon's true colors
Yet again, it sounds like to me another allusion towards the Joker from DC. Fittingly his opponent is Ace Attorney Batman.
And Kay Faraday is Robin. The Tim Drake one.
And Gumshoe is the Dick Grayson Robin.
Franny is basically Batgirl.
Lang is Commissioner Gordon.
And if you think about it, Quercus Alba is Ra'Zhal Ghul! with Shih-na being his beautiful advisor who screws around with Edgeworth twice.
+1aundulxaldin You may not speak of the almighty Rã Al Ghul!
+1aundulxaldin And Debeste? What character from Batman Sebastian is?
Filip Melzacki
I really don't know, honestly. It'd have to coincide with a Batman character who thinks he's the "better" batman, but is really an incompetant idiot who has to have the actual gruntwork done by someone more experienced than him.
+1aundulxaldin Riddler? Prometheus? Hush? ...the Arkham Knight?
If Gyakuten Kenji ever got an anime adaptation, I'd like Miyano Mamoru to be the one to voice Simon Keyes. Think about it, he could go from Tamaki Suoh to Light Yagami real quick. LOL.
This entire circus of a game had a chain of interconnecting plots all following one after the other, in ascending order of bizzare nature. So it's only fitting that the curtain would arise on the final stage of this act which is the circus itself, and Edgeworth strikes against the ringleader of this mad carnival, intent on closing the act.
Realising that nobody's buying his masterful tug at their hearts with his act of wounded feelings, "The Great Monster" finally drops the act and takes off the mask.
4:53
Simon transforms before our very eyes with the help of Snow White animal companions. What.
3:03 4:19 It also explains why Edgeworth insists on suspecting Athena of her guilt in Dual Destinies case5, despite Phoenix's insistence that she is pitiful and said that Edgeworth has "Gone too far" . One cannot judge a person's good and evil by his appearance alone
so Simon is a liar and he can mimic voices? Throw in an invisibility suit and he can get away with anything! Maybe.
yYe he is a mastermind
Hmhm, Gentlemen.
If the trait of sticking out their tongues didn't give it away that Simon and Gustavia were related, I don't know what will.
They even were culprits in the respective cases they were involved in. Like father, like son, I guess
I know everyone said this before, but thank you for doing the walkthrough of this game.
the moment i saw simon's hair fall down when the birds took the bands off, my jaw was on the floor, like honestly nothing could EVER beat this
I can tell Edgeworth actually didn't want to do this at first, the way he talked gives it away.
yeah he still sees Simon as a victim even by the end of the game. He knows he is messed up but he also knows that he was forced to become that way to survive.
@@MokonaModokiES can imagine in Simon Gustavis' shoes that he is being haunted down by officials and a president of another country that would try to find and kill him for witnessing that assassination and saving Mr Dogen and he had no one to trust for protection. That would make someone loose humanity that extreme.
11:50 Wow, someone ACTUALLY brought up the fact that the Prosecutors ask Leading questions all the time. I'm impressed.
Even after all these years I am still shocked, I still can't believe this nice guy was actually someone the Joker himself would be proud of.
Simon and Knightley are the only character in the series that looks completely different when they were kids compared to when they are adults
@mohamed zayan simon was the one who WAS tied, knightley was dover’s son so he tied gustavia’s son (simon) to prevent him from entering the contest
Yea like FR Simon had brown hair and now he is ginger... I guess he dyed his hair?
Simon went into hiding. Keep I mind the circus visited Patricia's prison regularly so even his name is fake
That's only so you couldn't tell who the kids were before it was shown to the player
Damnit simon... i wanted to believe you, but made me cry..! ;-;
Benjamin Dossey
Yeah I believed in him too. How he has crushed our trust by deceiving us!
Where did Simon get the Dark Devas of Destruction?!
KhymChanur SKIDDIDJJDKSJSISDJDJEIODJFNDWKDJN
Better question: HOW?!?
Gundam must be depressed right now.
HES THE MASTERMIND WHAT CAN I SAY?
Gundham probably be like: How could an ignorant fool like you confuse my powerful and vicious Dark Devas of Destruction with those foul and rebellious tree climbers!
the feeling that everyone around you is an enemy. Even I know how that feels
Unpopular opinion and old meme I know but Simon is the best clown in any Ace attorney game so far in my opinion. He isn’t too annoying unlike moe, is not a complete simp for Regina unlike max, and is a smarter and better culprit than geiru.
Even if Simon is a killed and an horrible person for motivating both Knightley and Crane’s murders, adding Kay and John’s kidnappings...i fully understand why he did this and why he becoming like this.
All of this were incidentally caused because Knightley and Simon’s fathers were two horrible persons to begin with: Dover for ordering his own son to "abduct" his friend just because he didn’t want Simon to taste his dad’s dessert and Gustavia for murdering Dover cause of that without even thinking of his son first.
At final, Doghen is incidentally the only one who really understand Simon even if he’s a criminal, it’s obvious he really cared about him after Simon saved his life.
And the fact Simon was Gustavia’s son, the son of the true culprit behind IS-7 incident and the one who first ruined his life, it’s understandable to see why Simon turned like this, to a manipulative guy who can easily manipulate both humans and animals to satisfy his desire of revenge.
I think he’s really one of the best villains, all games confounded, with his motive and his plan.
So yeah, he’s an horrible criminal but his backstory and the fact everything could have been change (well, not the presidential assassination and maybe Cameron and Doghen’s murders if Simon didn’t saved him) if Dover and Gustavia weren’t complete b*stards to begin with; their son would probably all be alive and living an happy life if the IS-7 incident will never happened.
Yeah, karma is a b*tch.
You just know he’s going to have so many fan girls if this game gets localised. That ‘I can fix him’ appeal seems to be very strong in the AA fanbase lol
Does anyone else find the real Simon Keyes attractive?
/what
@@nicolaslimac He’s not sociopathic. He fits the definition of a psychopath more. But I don’t think he’s bad at all because everyone he killed or led to be arrested (except Jill Crane) deserved it
I've heard so many scary and creepy objections. But Simon's is rather cool! For a true mastermind.
So I start up this video, and to the right of the screen I see an ad from Amazon.com for Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth. Yep, that's not odd in the slightest.
Very strange coincidence it was like it knew what you were watching
well... sort of. This a video for sequel after all, but whatever.
OBJECTION: Dai gykauten senbai 2 and 1 are released in Japan this is a fan release
@@cheguevara7478 The first one was released in the US
It might be a stretch, but it feels like even Regina was affected by the whole daddy issues theme becaus if it weren't for Turnabout Big Top, she'd probably defended Simon rather than being immediately helpful in getting him indicted.
Pheonix did her a favor
Simon went from "Hello, sir, I will bring your daughter home by 10PM" to "Cegorach calls me Daddy too"
13:03 Ema making an epic entrance with Lang made my day ^^
9:35 JESUS CHRIST HOW HORRIFYING
Can we just talk about how good Simons theme actually is?
From before we can know that Simón is a villain because he never appears on the left side of the screen
13:39 you know that someone's important when they have their own "Objection!" voiceline
So I got spoiled on him being the mastermind behind this...
Nobody told me that he could make any animal do anything for amusement!
Also that tranformation was left-field
“You know something, Mr. Prosecutor? I used to think my life was a tragedy. Now I realize... it’s a comedy.”
So you're telling me 80% of this damn plot was Simon constantly rolling nat 20s in luck and outcome?!
32:56 hes going crazy. after realizing he's killed his friend for nothing, over a simple ass misunderstanding, he lost it, he's no longer Simon the one kid who had Knightley as his best friend, he's Simon, the Mastermind.
Wait, Simon is the Joker? That explains everything.
Last Son of Tennessee Man in the Red Hood...
Kay might as well be robin cause the raven badge she wears is a bird. At least Simon didn't kill her with a crowbar and blew her up. And didn't turn John into two face.
phantomshadow224 But if Kay is Robin, that would make Miles Batman and he doesn't really seem the type... or is that just what he wants us to think?
Last Son of Tennessee Whoa wait a minute... is Alba the Penguin? But wait, this being about Batman conflicts with my idea that Miles is Fred, Franziska is Velma, Kay is Daphne, Gumshoe is Shaggy, and Lang is Scooby Doo. That's why they made that Scooby Doo reference at the end of the first Investigations game, right? The localization team had to have noticed the resemblance. But it turns out the series is actually an allusion to Batman? I don't know what to think any more...
Actually, Miles being Batman makes a lot of sense. He's rational, focused and tends to be unemotional and have difficulty connecting with people. And he has a good friend who wears blue all the time, is deeply concerned about people and about justice, but who tends to be a little naive. In other words, Phoenix is Superman.
(I'm going to babble about simon keyes and it'd not make sense but, I've been waiting to write like an essay for so long about him but i didnt have anyone to talk because none of my friend played AAI nor even the saga)
I actually think simon's story and character is very interesting, as a character he's introduced like a timid and coward person to gain your trust because, well people tend to feel sorry about people like that and he knew about that, that's why i think the sudden change makes sense because the simon everyone knows was just a shield to protect him from being seem as bad
And the change, i recall this from another comment from another video, is about how he changed and looked very different like, it was not truly him (it was because of the makeup and different clothes), i do think capcom made that intentionally not only to make him look more intimidating but also tricks you thinking the simon you knew is not the same, you cannot even imagine (at least for me) how the true simon could look without makeup and the clown clothes, which i find that very cool
and i think he's a very good mastermind, even above daliah, because, he didnt have any power like blaise, nor money nor status, he's just a simple animal tamer and when the opportunity came he used it and planned everything, and what i found more endearing about him is the fact he made mistakes like all of us making him look more human. His story and those mistakes made him look more human and you can feel bad for him because of that, he was a clever mastermind but he was still a person
(it's 5:43 am and im just hyperfixating sorry maybe i could have written better this but it just some babble from my mind rn)
I can't believe Simon was the cause of this whole fiasco.
This case has almost every character in the game
Watching Simon just outwit Edgeworth is so much more entertaining than it was with Alba... At least Simon is entertaining and I don't (yet) want to bludgeon him with my hairbrush.
In other news... Ray is just too awesome for words, and Kay's what I assume to be pseudo-German accent made me laugh.
And... uh... okay supposing the double really was going to kill Courtney... why in the name of the Judge's brother's excellent playoff beard did he send her away ahead of him?
The thing is, Simon DOES outwit Edgeworth.
Alba just spammed the "extraterritorial rights" card over and over again whenever he was out of ammo.
Indeed. Simon is a far better match. Alba was frustrating. Simon was satisfactory.
Ellie F. And yet, you can't help but feel sorry for the guy. He was driven to this state of revenge-seeking manipulator because his childhood was broken and he couldn't trust the law to help him.
He's like a precursor to what the Dark Age of the Law would bring. Just one of many examples of what the DAotL did to the People.
Why the double sent Courtney away? Simple. Simon came flying just then and the double did not want a witness to the murder, so he planned to take the balloon down. Also, he did not want Courtney to be a witness to the double taking down the balloon.
Omg, Simon is hot after the transformation lmao
I know right
I never thought I'd be attracted to a clown
windwaker407 hm neither did i. heck.
The Joker says hi.
19:59 - "I mean, *why so serious,* right?" - The Joker reference, anyone?
The AAI team really like having a main antagonist in their games.
canadmexi As a whole I would say in some aspects all of the AAI main antagonist are some of the best I've ever seen in games. I would say even that some of the antaganist in the main series pale in comparison to guys like Blaise and Alba from the last game. I will say if i made a list there are certain people I would put in from the AA games, but those two would be top five.
canadmexi Yeah, these are the true most villainous of the AA series:
Damon Gant
Manfred von Karma
Matt Enguarde
Misty Fey
Dahlia Hawthrone
Kristoph Gavin
Ambassador Alba
Blaise Debeste
Simon Keyes
The Phantom
*****
I think you mean Morgan Fey.
Phoenix is incredibly talented at perisisting when unlimited levels of garbage is thrown at him one aftwr the other, but often none of his cases connect to each other. the most impressive things Phoenix has done i'd say is take down the chief of police, and take down the man who never lost for 40 years. Edgeworth has prevented TWO international incidents, and taken down a president of a country, as well as Simon, arguably the craftiest criminal ever
blaise was entertaining as hell. je was written that was because he didnt give a fuck. as evidences by the fact that he never got nervous until he was completely caught.
So basically, Investigations' main root of incidents was because of Alba, and Investigation 2 is because of Simon? Welp, the people I blame are Dover and Byrn- I-I mean... Nvm. XD
god dammit cant help be be fascinated with the juggling/jumping chipmunks xD
its like hypnotism haha :)
I gotta be honest, confronting simon is probably one of the hardest choices to make until after the fact
Why. do. all. the. Gingers. Become. Awesome. VILLAINS!!!
cough Ron de lite cough
But I do agree there are quite a few
Please tell me I’m not the only one who laughed hysterically when the Pig, Squirrel, and Cat teamed up to make an armrest.
There’s a small part of me that’s now rooting for Simon
All of me is rooting for Simon. He did nothing wrong
Yoo same. He's the definition of the character trope of "He did nothing wrong". Everything was against him and it's only natural he'd want revenge so bad.
best villain ever so fucking op even with a commoner status he's great
Nowaynowaynowaynowaynoway Simon is the .......culprit :(
39:30
And there's the line.
Hot air balloons fly in the sky. And in other news, the sky is blue and the grass is green.
16:06 ema no I haven’t set up the microphone on this emulator yet
YO I'M STRUNGLE WITH THIS PROBLEM RN
~10:00 There's a stretch: balloons can't be controlled horizontally beyond using the wind gusts. So one cannot do precise movement with them - including passing a building.
+psychofreak949 (remove the "super awesome" part and it's ACTUALLY solved)
Honestly, this one hurt.
Best transformation and villain in the series
5:15 HOLY SHIT YOU CAN MAKE ANIMALS ADJUST YOUR APPEARANCE FOR YOU AND THEN SALUTE YOU? COLOUR ME IMPRESSED!!
Okay WTF happened to you Simon?! You used to be so adorable with Money but now you're just plain scary!!! ("\(O m O")/")
This whole time, I seriously thought they were slapping his face.XD
Simon is badass.
Although Knightley was responsible for his own crime of killing Rook, I can't help but feel like Keyes anger at him is kinda misplaced. 18 years of resentment against his former best friend ... All because little kid Knightley was coerced by his douche father Isaac Dover? Keyes even says that kid Knightley was crying and apologizing that his father ordered him to capture Keyes back then. Seems like Keyes should have realized that Knightley didn't want to betray his friend. And Keyes conveniently somehow also forgot that Gustavia was his own father, so he blamed Knightley again for a misplaced reason - because Knightley wasn't the son of the Gustavia at all! Not to mention that Knightley was only 8 and Keyes was only 6 back then; it's not like 8 year old Knightley intentionally wanted to betray his friend.
Conveniently forgetting had nothing to do with it. They both suffered from memory loss after nearly freezing to death. His muddled memories led him to think Dover was his father, because he was trapped to sabotage his father and thought the death of Dover was caused by Knightley's father. To Simon, Knightley's actions led to everything wrong in his life.
But he quickly shifts to claiming he doesn't care about his father after realising his true identity. His suffering caused him to develop a victim complex, which he used to justify his crimes and ugly character.
Simon Keyes was such an amazing villain! They hint really hard at it, but you like him so much that you never connect the dots.
Kind of like (spoiler for the fan case Ace Attorney: Contempt of Court) Robert Snow. Wait..... THEY BOTH DO VOICE IMPRESSIONS, MANIPULATE EVERYONE, AND HAVE A MAJOR TRANSFORMATION TO THEIR PERSONALITY AND APPEARANCE AT THE END!!!! AAAAAAH!!!
Simon is to Edgeworth pretty much what Engarde was to Phoenix.
Or Billy to Sidney.
Next time if you are caught speeding,say the line at 17:15
Jeremy Teo o wait what
31:32 oh my god oh my god. Poor Simon. All because of a misunderstanding.
Knightley.... he loved his friend so much he was even looking forward to his next chess move even in prison... im gonna cry..
5:01 send chills to your spine
If only the cooking show didn’t exist, none of the events in the series would’ve happened
20:10 leave it to Kay Faraday to look the man who kidnapped her two days prior dead in the face and make fun of him.
from a shy dude to a frickin psychopath, that was fast
Edgeworth: Dust my fingerprints, so you will see that the blue truck is yours.
Me, thinking about the stolen turnabout: Waiiiiit a minute....
Dude. I thought Gustavia was cool, but Simon's frickin' badass too! Guy took out both Roland and Debeste by tricking both of them into doing murders to make them quietly disappear from his life, heck yeah! For once, an actually believable motivation, like a father, like son!
34:38 and just like how Flowey says in the hit game Undertale (2015), *it's kill or be killed!*
I love his motive for villiany. The writers really went off the bat for this game.
Truth be told, I really thought we had nothing to sue him for. And then I remembered that Shelly De Killer exists.
Hello Pheonix Wright
Hello Phoenix Wright
I wanted to feel sorry for Simon, with the whole being locked up in the car and ditched by his dad thing…
But after betraying Knightley? Fuck him. There's a special place in Hell for those who backstab their friends. Not as huge of an asshole as Isaac Dover or Blaise maybe, but definitely up there.
Knightley did kidnap Simon and lock him in a car though...
He may have been told to do it by his dad, but he's not completely innocent. Knightley is also responsible for ruining Simon's entire life, leading him to nearly die, get sent to an orphanage to be interrogated by Patricia and then be on the run from the corrupt police force for his entire childhood, utterly traumatizing him and preventing him from being able to trust anyone.
windwaker407 ehm Horace was a 6 years old little kid! how he could understand the severity of the situation? he was also victim of abuse from his father
The worst thing about it is when you realize situations like this leading to murder, sometimes happen in real life, when you look past how crazy Ace Attorney can get…
I think that's the part that hits the most for me, and lets me forgive Knightley. I've seen stories of people being threatened to kill another or keep quiet about something, and it's worse when it's a child.
"Simon Keyes. I indict you!" On whose authority? Edgeworth has not got his badge back
9:56
Edgeworth: No kay. He's not the clown. He's the entire circus. (It would be funny if translators added it.)
And this is why I love Simon Keyes