Good video and great to see the progression. Imagine what you would now achieve with an S&S cam installed. I am going to guess at 55 to 57 BHP at the rear wheel with the current upgrades.
Mine has an S&S 865 kit and a stage 2 kent cam, Hitchcocks downpipes, S&S cans, free flow filter and a Power commander 6. 69 hp as set up by PDQ in Taplow, Berkshire.
Good Stuff! Very impressive improvement numbers. The boys at Tec do a great job. Great improvement without compromising reliability for not too much money...winner-winner!!
Wow that’s great, do you mind to share your map for from PC ? I’m also installing soon open headers and have already pc 6 free flow exhaust pipes and DNA air filter
It’s an excelleng upgrade. If you decide to upgrade the airfilter or just remove the snorkel off the air-box, you will have to add some kind of fuel controller like a powertronic or powercommander to compensate with extra fuel. A booster-plug will not be enough! All of this is to prevent your engine from running too lean and getting too hot.
What a nice flat power/torque curve, I bet that feels so good through the seat of your pants, its all about area under the curve! Hope you are still enjoying it and have fitted the yss suspension upgrades and some sticky tyres!
I like the bit at the end of video when you talking about the improvements.You can hardly contain your smile explaining how it pulls that had me sold on your improvements.Great job.😁👍
Thanks brother. The difference just the exhaust makes is impressive. But the difference the headers make in combination with the right fuel settings (with the help of the Power Commander) is mind blowing! The air filter doesn’t make a big difference, removing the snorkel/cover plate is more effective than replacing the stock filter.
@@bensal07 I have done a heap of mods already mostly cosmetic but done S&S Slip on's & air filter,booster plug. YSS fork upgrade,Motone tank pads,Motone up & overs,Grip puppies,R.E oil filter & more R.E accessories.Done a video couple weeks back about mods so far with a great view of New Zealand countryside.
Hey My friend, thanks for the vid, it was great very straight up and direct before and after. 2 questions, why did you plug/remove the O2 Sensor. I'm getting the Rec Headers as you did, however I'm struggling with the exhaust, I noticed you are running Scorpions, I'm looking for performance and my understanding S&S give the best performance, so they say, I don't know if that is true maybe cheapy diablos are just as good as Scorpions or S&S and so on, they all allow for more free exhaust, why did you choose Scorpion exhaust and do you know if there is a big difference between them and are you happy with the Scorpion and why didn't you go with the Tec Exhaust. Sorry buddy a lot of questions I know, my apologies. Chees Karl Squire
Hi Karl, thanks for your comment and good question. I went with the Scorpions because....they were already on the bike when I bought it :) I think the S&S exhausts look better, as well as the TEC exhausts. But since they were already on the bike, I just kept them and spent the money on headers. I am very happy with them, but don't consider them to be better or worse than the S&S/TEC ones. As for the O2 sensor: you can keep it on the bike if you want to, even put them on the new headers. DynoJet Power Commander recommend to disconnect and remove them. There are 2 plugs supplied that connect to the original wiring harness. However, my tuner told me later that you can keep the sensors, the effect can be notice when the bike is idling, that's when the sensors work. Some people experience poor idling when the O2 sensor is removed. I haven't had such experience. Hope this helps
@@bensal07 Adnane, Thanks man for getting back to so quickly, that bit of info in your replies helps a lot. My brother from another mother :-) Have a great day buddy and thanks again for your vid and the time it took you to make it.
Why didn’t the tuner extend the rev limiter ? In PCV you could extend another500 rpm. Any more would be useless as the cams must likely don’t have enough lift to be useable.
Thanks for sharing your upgrades, useful info. Couple of questions - what PC map did you start with (was it straight from PC or was it a Hitchcock/Tec map). What tweaks did they make to the map? Did the headers make the exhaust very much louder? Running DB killers?
Hi! Thanks for commenting. The PC was bought with a pre-loaded map van Hitchcocks. My dyno guy said that it was a pretty good map to begin with. The changes heb made were richening the top end a little bit,and taking out a little dip at around 4000-5000 rpm. The headers give a deeper sound to the Interceptor, and a little bit more noise. The Interceptor wat tuned and dynod without DB Killers, but I always ride WITH the DB Killers. It sounds just about perfect now. Classy, not obnoxious
Amazing what a good tune can do. Just slip on mufflers, open air filter and a tuned power commander can go a long way from a rideability standpoint. Fuel and ignition are key at the minimum, factory lean fueling and retarded timing are the first things to fix IMHO.
do you find the bike is too loud with the free flow exhaust? im debating whether just to put slip ons with the stock headers or go full exhaust but dont want it to be overly loud.
Go for the full exhaust. Performence wise best bang for buck!! Without a baffle it sounds really good. But the exhaust also comes with baffle, which helps a lot
What is the power commander five, and what is a custom map? Is this some kind of electronic gizmo that allows you to tweak software or something? Is this something someone can do at home by themselves, or do you need some hard-core mechanic to do this?
It’s a piggyback ecu that allows you to tune the fueling for specific rev ranges. Installing it is simple, but the programming of it is Not a job for a beginner.
Not massive HP but torque looks great , lots of it at low rpm and this is what you feel riding the bike , do like the Interceptor but ended up with Thruxton 1200 (bit or an overkill for me LOL )
The power commander was about 350 USD, the air filter about 80 USD, the headers around 250 USD, and the tuning around 250 USD as well. The silencers were on the bike when I bought it, but they were like 600 or 700 USD when they were first offered. But you can get a quality set of silencers for around 300 USD. I have another Interceptor 650 with an S&S cam, which costed me around 200 USD. It changed the bike in the sense that the power was now available much higher in the rev range. I preferred the low end torque more. I have to change to a larger front sprocket size to compensate for that. The good news is that it now has the oomph for that
It's not clear what contribution the piggy-back ECU made and how much you modified its "as-bought" map. Did you modify the air filter, and if so, what improvement it and the exhaust made without the piggy-back ECU mod.
Correct. It is clear what we have achieved with the piggy back ECU. As for the impact of each part separately, that would have meant a number of additional dyno runs $$$, money I'd rather spend on fine-tuning
It was a massive improvement over stock. But the real performance was only unlocked when I had the Powercommander tuned on a dyno. That is not a job any mechanic can do, you need a specialist. I have to say that the maps PowerTronic and Hitchcocks(powercommander) deliver are very good starting points. Just don’t leave the fuelling stock when you go with free-flow headers. Otherwise, best keep stock headers.
@@bensal07 can I just put a powertronics ecu on it. My bike has redrooster exhaust and a DNA airfilter. I would prefer change the pipes unless it gives me a great difference in performance
@@pranavsuresh8925 adding a powertronic will make a difference. Make sure it is loaded with the correct “map” for your set-up. If you decide to go with the free-flow headers, the improvements will be very noticeable. Again, you will then need to upload a different map for that set-up.
@@pranavsuresh8925 Also the weight difference is lighter than stock a 2-2 big bore headers will be 4kg lighter & 2-1 will be 7kg lighter & 2-1 will be 2-3hp & 9-10Nm more than the 2-2 big bore headers with out power commander but will change the look of bike.I reckon the 2-2 look better but performance & weight is better with 2-1 & with power commander be even better.Tec states their 2-1 no power commander gives 53hp & 73Nm on their Dyno at TEC not sure if they used Dyno jet Dyno & different Dyno = Different results.A true comparison will be on same Dyno. Dyno jet is one of the best one's.
I'm happy with mine just as it came out of the factory. I would like a rear luggage rack, an fully enclosed chaincase, and a siamese exhaust [NOT a two into one] as standard, also better mudguards that kept the road muck from the bike would be nice, and some different handle bars, and some quality fitted luggage panniers. One thing puzzles me, If you wanted a fast bike, why didn't you buy a faster bike? cheers.
Sounds like you have some really nice plans! Buying a different bike purely for better performance would not have given me the same feel as I get from the Interceptor. I feel that this is exactly how it should have been. Unrestricted.
@@bensal07 ok. I was not criticising you. We are all different. I notice that you seem to be the only person who has bothered to stick the bike on a dyno to find out, what difference the modifications made. .stick a new pair of spark plugs in the bike when your on the dyno next, and I wonder if it will make a difference? cheers, .
Hi! Haven’t managed to slip the clutch yet, so far so good! I’m planning on adding high compression pistons and high lift cams in the winter. I suspect that I might need a clutch or clutch spring upgrade then.
Haha I know! So much to record stil, so little time 😭 I was actually planning on going up 1 tooth in the front so I can cruise at 120 km/h and have less than 4k rpm. Pulls very strong in every gear
@@bensal07 I did 180kmph in speedo...and it hits the limiter and mine is stock one...no mods nothing... U know stock one produces 47bhp and 52Nm in crank...not on the wheel...at the wheel stock produces 41bhp...but here u got 10bhp more but there is no significant improvement in topspeed... How come ?? Can u explain ??
@@TheAutoblipper Gear ratio. Thats how you get a higher top speed. Now that the power is there, the gear ratio is the limiting factor. Stock gear ratio works well with stock performance. Once you have more power, it becomes a limiting factor.
@@bensal07 i think u are also running on stock gear ratio n the rev limiter is also same as stock in ur bikee...technically it should have the same topspeed as the stock gt..but topspeed will be reached much quicker than stock one as ur bike has more power n torque figures with reduced weight... Am i right ? I m using 100/90-18 at front and 130/70-18 at rear... What's the tyre size of ur bike ? And is it possible to get the power commander in India.... Here the PPL are using powertronics but I feel like powercommander gives better results...you literally gained around 10bhp and 12Nm at the wheel man...
In the UK this sort of thing is what the government is trying to stop with an 'anti tamper' law against any owners interfering with any system of a vehicle which could affect the safety or emissions of the vehicle
It’s the same in many European countries nowadays. Funny enough these motorcycles leave the factory running extremely lean to meet emission regulations. Richening the fuel mixture is actually better for the engine and it’s longevity. Emissions, well, the difference is marginal. Especially when you run the bike with baffles (sound emissions). A small difference in increased production of CO/NOx particles, yes. But then again, I live 10 minutes away from the airport. Whatever I do to my bike, it’s not even 0,000001% compared to 1 single small airplane.
Good video and great to see the progression. Imagine what you would now achieve with an S&S cam installed. I am going to guess at 55 to 57 BHP at the rear wheel with the current upgrades.
Wow the sound difference is awesome!
Mine has an S&S 865 kit and a stage 2 kent cam, Hitchcocks downpipes, S&S cans, free flow filter and a Power commander 6.
69 hp as set up by PDQ in Taplow, Berkshire.
nice
What was the cost of parts plus work. Tks for reply
Well done. Simple and to the point. I like the way the headers are changing color. Bike looks and sounds great.
Cheers!
Good Stuff! Very impressive improvement numbers. The boys at Tec do a great job. Great improvement without compromising reliability for not too much money...winner-winner!!
Wow that’s great, do you mind to share your map for from PC ? I’m also installing soon open headers and have already pc 6 free flow exhaust pipes and DNA air filter
I also changed the rear rim and wheels to 17" inch and that improved the bikes performance on many folds
18” or 17”, the difference is nothing dramatic. It changes the handling a bit. It’s a matter of preference
Nice result. I didnt expect that.
Thank you!
Awesome result bro. Perfect!
Nice bike you have there mister.😁 I am doing a similar treatment to mine so I appreciate knowing that it will be worth it in the end.
Excellent video and a great result! Thank you
Very interesting power figures thank you
Ima very pleased too! Because ima gonna prob get one of these. My last bike had about 130 hp at rw. (a hopped up Honda blackbird)
Thanks for the detailed information.
Have fitted the Tec cannon mufflers, with the headers on order.
It’s an excelleng upgrade. If you decide to upgrade the airfilter or just remove the snorkel off the air-box, you will have to add some kind of fuel controller like a powertronic or powercommander to compensate with extra fuel. A booster-plug will not be enough! All of this is to prevent your engine from running too lean and getting too hot.
What a nice flat power/torque curve, I bet that feels so good through the seat of your pants, its all about area under the curve! Hope you are still enjoying it and have fitted the yss suspension upgrades and some sticky tyres!
I sold the Interceptor, bought a Classic 350 ReBorn, moved abroad, and now I bought an Interceptor again :D
Good informative video mate. Inspired me to make some changes!
Cheers mate!
Well done bro I was thinking about doing this.👍
I like the bit at the end of video when you talking about the improvements.You can hardly contain your smile explaining how it pulls that had me sold on your improvements.Great job.😁👍
Thanks brother. The difference just the exhaust makes is impressive. But the difference the headers make in combination with the right fuel settings (with the help of the Power Commander) is mind blowing! The air filter doesn’t make a big difference, removing the snorkel/cover plate is more effective than replacing the stock filter.
@@bensal07 I have done a heap of mods already mostly cosmetic but done S&S Slip on's & air filter,booster plug.
YSS fork upgrade,Motone tank pads,Motone up & overs,Grip puppies,R.E oil filter & more R.E accessories.Done a video couple weeks back about mods so far with a great view of New Zealand countryside.
@@ruahinesrider quite a list ..only another 10 plus to go 😜
@@Alex-io6ky 😆😆
Hey My friend, thanks for the vid, it was great very straight up and direct before and after. 2 questions, why did you plug/remove the O2 Sensor. I'm getting the Rec Headers as you did, however I'm struggling with the exhaust, I noticed you are running Scorpions, I'm looking for performance and my understanding S&S give the best performance, so they say, I don't know if that is true maybe cheapy diablos are just as good as Scorpions or S&S and so on, they all allow for more free exhaust, why did you choose Scorpion exhaust and do you know if there is a big difference between them and are you happy with the Scorpion and why didn't you go with the Tec Exhaust. Sorry buddy a lot of questions I know, my apologies.
Chees
Karl Squire
Hi Karl, thanks for your comment and good question. I went with the Scorpions because....they were already on the bike when I bought it :) I think the S&S exhausts look better, as well as the TEC exhausts. But since they were already on the bike, I just kept them and spent the money on headers. I am very happy with them, but don't consider them to be better or worse than the S&S/TEC ones.
As for the O2 sensor: you can keep it on the bike if you want to, even put them on the new headers. DynoJet Power Commander recommend to disconnect and remove them. There are 2 plugs supplied that connect to the original wiring harness. However, my tuner told me later that you can keep the sensors, the effect can be notice when the bike is idling, that's when the sensors work. Some people experience poor idling when the O2 sensor is removed. I haven't had such experience. Hope this helps
@@bensal07 Adnane, Thanks man for getting back to so quickly, that bit of info in your replies helps a lot. My brother from another mother :-) Have a great day buddy and thanks again for your vid and the time it took you to make it.
Why didn’t the tuner extend the rev limiter ? In PCV you could extend another500 rpm. Any more would be useless as the cams must likely don’t have enough lift to be useable.
Hi! I didn’t think it was necessary. Not much useful gains to get in the red zone
Great result I have those same cans plus headers , PC-V and intake. Will shortly be going for a dyno run and gives me a starting point cheers.
Thanks for sharing your upgrades, useful info. Couple of questions - what PC map did you start with (was it straight from PC or was it a Hitchcock/Tec map). What tweaks did they make to the map? Did the headers make the exhaust very much louder? Running DB killers?
Hi! Thanks for commenting. The PC was bought with a pre-loaded map van Hitchcocks. My dyno guy said that it was a pretty good map to begin with. The changes heb made were richening the top end a little bit,and taking out a little dip at around 4000-5000 rpm. The headers give a deeper sound to the Interceptor, and a little bit more noise. The Interceptor wat tuned and dynod without DB Killers, but I always ride WITH the DB Killers. It sounds just about perfect now. Classy, not obnoxious
great result .
Brilliant video 🇬🇧🏍👍
"Horsepowers" lol love this guy
If better is possible. Then good is not enough. Don't forget that you have a lighter bike that will help the extra HP.
Amazing what a good tune can do. Just slip on mufflers, open air filter and a tuned power commander can go a long way from a rideability standpoint. Fuel and ignition are key at the minimum, factory lean fueling and retarded timing are the first things to fix IMHO.
do you find the bike is too loud with the free flow exhaust? im debating whether just to put slip ons with the stock headers or go full exhaust but dont want it to be overly loud.
Go for the full exhaust. Performence wise best bang for buck!! Without a baffle it sounds really good. But the exhaust also comes with baffle, which helps a lot
Awesome
What is the power commander five, and what is a custom map? Is this some kind of electronic gizmo that allows you to tweak software or something? Is this something someone can do at home by themselves, or do you need some hard-core mechanic to do this?
It’s a piggyback ecu that allows you to tune the fueling for specific rev ranges. Installing it is simple, but the programming of it is Not a job for a beginner.
Thats Great 👍
Not massive HP but torque looks great , lots of it at low rpm and this is what you feel riding the bike , do like the Interceptor but ended up with Thruxton 1200 (bit or an overkill for me LOL )
Below 35k rpm, it's dangerously lean, considering it's not a watercooled engine
Absolutely not, no danger whatsoever. This guy has been tuning race bikes for the past 25 years!
You must have drain holes on the double wall or it gets condensation inside
Yes that's exactly what they do!
How much did these mods set you back? Cheers from The States?
The power commander was about 350 USD, the air filter about 80 USD, the headers around 250 USD, and the tuning around 250 USD as well. The silencers were on the bike when I bought it, but they were like 600 or 700 USD when they were first offered. But you can get a quality set of silencers for around 300 USD.
I have another Interceptor 650 with an S&S cam, which costed me around 200 USD. It changed the bike in the sense that the power was now available much higher in the rev range. I preferred the low end torque more. I have to change to a larger front sprocket size to compensate for that. The good news is that it now has the oomph for that
Thank you I am now a subscriber and soon an INT 650 owner😊
It's not clear what contribution the piggy-back ECU made and how much you modified its "as-bought" map.
Did you modify the air filter, and if so, what improvement it and the exhaust made without the piggy-back ECU mod.
Correct. It is clear what we have achieved with the piggy back ECU. As for the impact of each part separately, that would have meant a number of additional dyno runs $$$, money I'd rather spend on fine-tuning
57nm torque? Company claims 52
Better than expected thanks to the powercommander and complete exhaust system (no catalytic connverters)
Stock bend pipe weight? How mutch brother
Didn't put it on the scale, but I would say at least 6kg stock
Are the headers very important?
It was a massive improvement over stock. But the real performance was only unlocked when I had the Powercommander tuned on a dyno. That is not a job any mechanic can do, you need a specialist. I have to say that the maps PowerTronic and Hitchcocks(powercommander) deliver are very good starting points. Just don’t leave the fuelling stock when you go with free-flow headers. Otherwise, best keep stock headers.
@@bensal07 can I just put a powertronics ecu on it. My bike has redrooster exhaust and a DNA airfilter.
I would prefer change the pipes unless it gives me a great difference in performance
@@pranavsuresh8925 adding a powertronic will make a difference. Make sure it is loaded with the correct “map” for your set-up. If you decide to go with the free-flow headers, the improvements will be very noticeable. Again, you will then need to upload a different map for that set-up.
@@bensal07 thank you for your reply
@@pranavsuresh8925 Also the weight difference is lighter than stock a 2-2 big bore headers will be 4kg lighter & 2-1 will be 7kg lighter & 2-1 will be 2-3hp & 9-10Nm more than the 2-2 big bore headers with out power commander but will change the look of bike.I reckon the 2-2 look better but performance & weight is better with 2-1 & with power commander be even better.Tec states their 2-1 no power commander gives 53hp & 73Nm on their Dyno at TEC not sure if they used Dyno jet Dyno & different Dyno = Different results.A true comparison will be on same Dyno.
Dyno jet is one of the best one's.
no new update videos?
It's been super crazy! I've been trying to build BikeBrewers.com and it took all my time. I'll be back to creating YT content soon tho!
I'm happy with mine just as it came out of the factory. I would like a rear luggage rack, an fully enclosed chaincase, and a siamese exhaust [NOT a two into one] as standard, also better mudguards that kept the road muck from the bike would be nice, and some different handle bars, and some quality fitted luggage panniers. One thing puzzles me, If you wanted a fast bike, why didn't you buy a faster bike? cheers.
Sounds like you have some really nice plans! Buying a different bike purely for better performance would not have given me the same feel as I get from the Interceptor. I feel that this is exactly how it should have been. Unrestricted.
@@bensal07 ok. I was not criticising you. We are all different. I notice that you seem to be the only person who has bothered to stick the bike on a dyno to find out, what difference the modifications made. .stick a new pair of spark plugs in the bike when your on the dyno next, and I wonder if it will make a difference? cheers, .
Upload more videos brother.
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You might need performance clutch now.
Hi! Haven’t managed to slip the clutch yet, so far so good! I’m planning on adding high compression pistons and high lift cams in the winter. I suspect that I might need a clutch or clutch spring upgrade then.
@@bensal07you could go down one tooth to a 14 front sprocket,
@@bensal07 hay you haven't done s ride review of the mods you have done on the street,,
Haha I know! So much to record stil, so little time 😭 I was actually planning on going up 1 tooth in the front so I can cruise at 120 km/h and have less than 4k rpm. Pulls very strong in every gear
@@bensal07 4k I nothing for a 7k rev bike, I say go lower first to see what you get out of it. I hope s&s make a taller 6th gear ⚙️ for the RE 650's.
What's your top speed?
Right now it nearly hits the rev-limiter when the speedo shows around 165 km/h
@@bensal07 wow...
@@bensal07 I did 180kmph in speedo...and it hits the limiter and mine is stock one...no mods nothing...
U know stock one produces 47bhp and 52Nm in crank...not on the wheel...at the wheel stock produces 41bhp...but here u got 10bhp more but there is no significant improvement in topspeed...
How come ??
Can u explain ??
@@TheAutoblipper Gear ratio. Thats how you get a higher top speed. Now that the power is there, the gear ratio is the limiting factor. Stock gear ratio works well with stock performance. Once you have more power, it becomes a limiting factor.
@@bensal07 i think u are also running on stock gear ratio n the rev limiter is also same as stock in ur bikee...technically it should have the same topspeed as the stock gt..but topspeed will be reached much quicker than stock one as ur bike has more power n torque figures with reduced weight...
Am i right ?
I m using 100/90-18 at front and 130/70-18 at rear...
What's the tyre size of ur bike ?
And is it possible to get the power commander in India....
Here the PPL are using powertronics but I feel like powercommander gives better results...you literally gained around 10bhp and 12Nm at the wheel man...
In the UK this sort of thing is what the government is trying to stop with an 'anti tamper' law against any owners interfering with any system of a vehicle which could affect the safety or emissions of the vehicle
It’s the same in many European countries nowadays. Funny enough these motorcycles leave the factory running extremely lean to meet emission regulations. Richening the fuel mixture is actually better for the engine and it’s longevity. Emissions, well, the difference is marginal. Especially when you run the bike with baffles (sound emissions). A small difference in increased production of CO/NOx particles, yes. But then again, I live 10 minutes away from the airport. Whatever I do to my bike, it’s not even 0,000001% compared to 1 single small airplane.
@yumpladukfoo I'm Jealous haha