Time Team S06E13 Nevis,Carribean,.part.2
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- Опубліковано 13 жов 2024
- The second part of the special from Nevis where Tony Robinson and team discover the long-lost colonial capital, Jamestown, proving conclusively that it was not destroyed by a tidal wave.
Rest in peace John Eli Fuller. Dad passed away this week. This video is so special to the family. Thanks for sharing and having him on the show to help with the Amerindian stuff.
A worthy man!
My condolences. You can prolly contact Time Team Official and ask them to maybe either speed up the release for the two episodes or send you a copy in higher definition.
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Was he able to expand the TT work on that site. Any notable discoveries? Sorry for the loss of your dad.
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RIP Your Dad
In these two episodes, Phil dodges a questionable spider, the Team utilizes French espionage, and Stewart becomes a veritable Indiana Jones.
That's Indiana Ainsworth!
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That's *Yorkshire Ainsworth!*
Wasn't he always the genuine deal? He's basically all over the place, there's just no ditches with balls coming after him and dangerous snakes... or oddly phalic golden statues :))
Thank you for this. I have been looking for this one for months.
I love how they brought in the local school kids to help look for finds on the ground.
Phil certainly caught the sun!
This pair of episodes is so good. Can you imagine the expense of flying about two dozen people and their equipment? And they did So Much Work and found out so many details. One piece of new info for me - that the Amerindians jumped from island to island until they reached Hispaniola and Cuba. Stewart was absolutely brilliant.
I thought the school kids were a delight. So smart!
The expense of flying about two dozen people and their equipment would be nothing compared to what the TV corps would have made off the episodes. These great episodes would have brought in a lot of ad money.
American Indians, et al lived in one site until the debris was so deep they couldn't get around. Whenever this happened they all picked up and moved. It's the same way here in northern Michigan.
Did you see those bug bites on Stewart's hands when he was calling Tony to tell him about having found the slave houses!! You gotta love that guy
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Love Stewart and his devotion to his work. Bless him for what he endured with the bug bites and stings, and his allergic reaction to them.
This is the second time I've watched these episodes. Enjoyed them so much better second time around.
Enjoyed hearing the pan/steel drum Caribbean music at the end. I have always loved the way it sounds.
Really these have been keeping me sane as an American this year. Thank you.
These two episodes are my favourites, by far. Especially because I live in the Caribbean (Jamaica) and have been involved in a number of Amerindian archaeo discoveries and studies (Redware and Taino), all in caves. RS Stewart - Jamaican Caves Organisation.
I love the local band playing the Time Team theme song at the end!
BirdieRumia I love steel drums -- they should have kept this version of the theme.
@@christosvoskresye Oh, I'd bet a pretty that there's a full-length version of that performance archived *somewhere* -- maybe only as a sound recording, but I can't imagine a crew that skilled passing up the opportunity.
Unfortunately I miss a few. If I find them I will post them.
You do a wonderful service. Thank you
Thank you for _all_ the videos you've posted.
i didnt get to see most of time team until after 2000 ... so seeing all the ones from the start is nice for me ... beside hearing the TT theme on steel drums still sounds awesome
Reijer Zaaijer I would never have seen them at all if not for you. Thank you so much!
Thanks Reijer, these have been a wonderful distraction for the past month as we enter the 6th month of social isolation here. My parents are enjoying them too. Really appreciate you posting all of these 😊
This I had to watch. Nevis is an island after my own heart. I remember vacationing there when I was a kid with my parents n sister. At the time it was the 80’s there was only one resort on the island but our family doesn’t do resorts we rent from locals and go to market for food and such. The resort was just about 15 mins away and they had a brilliant Reaturant n pool which we ate at and swam at a few times. I remember being in the ocean playing with my sister and my parents on the beach reading on beach chairs and all of a sudden my mom started yelling and screaming for us to come in ASAP we didn’t have a clue what was going on but turns out there had been a pretty large earthquake and my mom was scared a tidle wave was following it. ( that never came ) that night we went to the resort for dinner and they had closed most of the restaurant as half a wall came down but the locals were amazing they chefed up some amazing food. The other memory was of a donkey that always seemed to be tied up accross the street from the house we were staying at and we’d take him water melon rinds in the am lol.
Wish I could afford to go back.
But now you're going to be the old person in the beach chair.....
It's nice to revisit a vacation place see it through the lens of age😊
Thanks so much for posting
Mick in a brilliant hawaiian shirt, time team theme on tin drums wonderful!
.... what a vacation! Great discoveries and " Indiana" Ainsworth to boot ! Stewart saves the day again. Victors illustrations and Sues graphics gave us the visuals that the jungle wouldn't allow. It would be nice if the Time Team were still around to dig other English colonial sites in other parts of the old empire ... Canada specifically.
Stewart is Boss!
"Early days yet" "Stone of crows" "Can I jump in your trench?" "Were off to the pub"
Has the makings of a drinking game.
resistradio ...”Stone THE crows” but it sounds awesome when Phil says it, regardless
''I mean i'm running like a pig, I really am'' lol! classic Phil
Thank you for posting Time Team episodes. I have watched them all over and over again while doing my Quilling or Paper Bead crafts. I also wish they hadn't canceled the series and wish they had come to Canada.
Nothing to see in Canada...
@@Craptastic760 that's not true, you ignorant buffoon.
...unless you consider Tim Horton's or an empty can of Molson's on the roadside to be attractions
@@Craptastic760 www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/prehistory
...or maybe a Canuck shooing a drunken bear out of his house with ""Take off you hoser! Get ootta' my hoose! No more Molson Lager for you!"
And since the last hurricane, the island suffered such destruction, that many residents fled and vowed not to return, partly d/t lack of funds to rebuild...Wonder how the historical aspects fared...could be possible that the jungle destruction could reveal what would take excavators weeks to remove...I wish the residents courage to withstand the devastation and hopefully the island can recover.
Ironic, since TT were shooting during Hurricane Mitch (32:14) , the second deadliest Atlantic Hurricane on record. They would have witnessed that level of destruction for themselves had Nevis been closer to the path of the storm.
Loved the TT theme on the Caribbean steel drums
Love this show! At the very end, it looks like Clarenza is lit. Certainly earned it!
You know, I believe you’re right! lol
Definitely one of my favorite adventures of the TT. I'd never wear shorts in that forest, though!
The finds from the Amerindians were such a treat. Many people now living in the Americas are taught Euro-centric theories and unaware for thousands of years large numbers of civilizations flourished in the Americas. Many were "discovered" long before any Europeans set foot on these shores. Along with studies of native peoples of the Americas, favorite studies of mine are the early "discoverers", the Polynesian, East Asian, and the later "discoverers" such as the Old Norse, who landed on the east and west coasts of the Americas hundreds and in some cases thousands of years before Europeans...
It is good to see Jenni Butterworth in this episode! By the Chicksands episode she has gone from 'Research Student' to Dr. Jenni Butterworth. Wonderful progress, and it seems quite rapid. I hope that later episodes have more contributions from Dr. B. (I'm viewing them in order)
Michael Melen I am doing the same, watching in chrono order, it’s such a delight! Thank you, Reijer Zaaijer, it’s amazing!
Michael Melen
It seems that there are more of us that are doing the same.....just seems the logical way of doing so....Love from Scotland
She's been part of a lot more productions than the average archaeologist, I see. Good for her, must assume she loves what she does.
This was one of the best Time Teams videos.... I loved the investigations, especially by Stewart, who worked, walked so hard to find his Slave Village. I learned more about the Island of Nevis, than any history book. I just wished they had made a few more dig visits to the outer British Colonies.
So glad this episode has been shot more than 23 years ago. Would’ve been horrible to watch the new Time Team Official traverse the brittle people minefield it has to nowadays
It was a treat to see the history of one of the the islands the my 4th GRT grandfather came from ( Alexander Hamilton)
Stone the crows! I have learned so many cool phrases from Phil. :)
Wow Tony looks young, Stewart is a hippy and mick looks like he's just back from touring with the greatful dead
You forgot that for the first time Carenza added a new hairstyle to her collection.
'nuf sed.
I've watched everything you have...OK I'm a time team nut.
there's a few from season 9,13 and 19 that you don't have posted, do you have these to watch? love it.
I love this show
46:20 that has to be one of the most... naturally human things i've seen dug out of the ground.
It's like seeing black and white pictures, but the people aren't standing tall and stiff with a grim look, and they're caught in one of the rare moments when they laugh or perhaps are making a visual gag.
Pots, pans, houses... they're human alright, their dimension is unmistakably ours, but it's very stiff without play. On the other hand, something like this... perhaps a child's play upon a father's work... it's unlike anything else, priceless.
This show is just too cool. But, where's the Saxon pottery? LOL!!
Stewart, Charlie, and crew were the heroes of all 6d on Nevis
I love Time Team! I would go drinking with Phil every day. The man is a treasure. I know at this point I'm 22 years late but I have such a crush on Dr. Jenni Butterworth!
She is certainly pretty, but I am still on Team Carenza. 💘
Colonies from Newfounland to British Columbia ... 20 yrs of diggin' ... Phil & Tony would be ancient !
Love the Beliedi rhythm in the beginning of each episode!
Great programme.
Stewart sure took a beating on this episode! Poor guy!
Of course it rained. Time Team wouldn’t be Time Team without a rain pour.
If you'll notice the lack of buildings in the background, go to the Earth app & enter Ft Ashby, Nevis, you'll see the thousands of buildings, golf courses, expensive hotels & arbnb,, up to $14,000 us per night! The only area still not built on at the age of this overview is the Pinney estate, from shoreline to the volcano. You can see the Pinney buildings standout in the jungle.
I think Carenza was getting a little blasted there at the end.
I concur..she is approaching wasted...doesn't she look happy, though...
I recently discovered that several generations of my distant great-grandparents owned and ran a sugar cane plantation in St Lucy, Barbados. Whilst their association with slave ownership rather soured my discovery, I'm amazed to learn that the Pickering name continues on the island to this day.
I wonder if the legend of the disappearance of Jamestown may be a transference of the destruction of Port Royal, Jamaica, much of which was destroyed, not only by tsunami, but by about a 10 meter subsidence of much of the area to below sea level in 1692.
The children involved in their islands history, the history of the Slaves who were the actual human fuel that made so many rich. These beautiful peoples history is nearly lost-- kudos for the wisdom to help recover some if it.
Poor Phil's legs got seriously scorched.
Wonderful episode(s)! I was only disappointed that no one asked Robin to check the plantation records for the number of slaves working at a given time. A population figure would've provided some clue as to how extensive a site the slave camp had been, which could have helped them in that aspect of the investigation. ='[.]'=
On Mountravers, John Pinney owned between 170 and 210 slaves, according to discoveringbristol.org. This could be recent data that wasn't available to Time Team at the time.
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I suspect the information was available but it wouldn't have been particularly relevant to a rather complicated dig.
How sad that so much of the island has been lost to commercialization. I’m sure that benefits the residents, but as a history over, i am sorry for all the artifacts that are. likely forever lost.
... Ah, authentic Island Rum ... 1985, the island of St. Lucia, West Indies (St. Lucia is one of those two tiny islands off the upper left of South America; the other island is Martinique. 11 degrees above the equator).
Behind the hotel, up on a steep hill, was a wonderful informal store-cum-bazaar where I encountered corked clear bottles filled with a very pale yellow liquid, with some dark sediment at the bottom. Simply printed on a white paper label (none of which were applied anywheres near level, something I would soon come to understand) was *"Strong Rum 60P."*
I've always enjoyed rum, sooooooo, back down to the hotel we went, picking up some Coca-Cola and ice along the way. Our room had a modest-but-beautiful balcony, so we set everything up out there and settled in.
The way the rum moved in the bottle was the first warning I missed-- it sort of moved too quickly and lightly, if that makes any sense. The second warning I missed was when I took a semi-righteous swig straight from the bottle, only to be slightly confused by a fleeting impression of sweetness and warmth, and nothing to swallow (the stuff's proof *had* to be around 190; what hadn't immediately evaporated on my tongue and gone directly into my lungs in vapour form had instantly penetrated my mouth's tissues, lol).
The third missed warning was when I went to wipe up the bit of rum I spilled onto the table when I poured my first (and last for that evening's) drink-- *it had already evaporated.* Probably in mid-air. You could have run a Formula 1 racer on this stuff.
I didn't have a chance ... already one sheet to the wind even before I mixed and sipped my drink, I kept adding more and more rum "because I couldn't really taste it." It was only when I hit the floor like a sack of cement when I got up to use the bathroom that I realised I'd been smoothly and completely annihilated by a legendary tradition which, in its fullest authentic glory, mystique and power, was ... *mythological.*
We were allowed a maximum 3 bottles to take back to the U.S. with us; we nursed 'em for years. Nothing I've ever experienced in my entire life before, nor since, could even begin to compare (not even Absinthe, to which I'm evidently and very unfortunately immune). What a dismal thought it is, that in today's air travel uber-security scenario, three bottles of *St. Lucia Strong Rum* in your carry-on luggage would undoubtedly get you 30 years (or more).
my dad is from there. Did it make you want to punch a parrot? lol
American Mortgage Investor Institute Lol, no, it didn't. I pretty much was quite amiable when hammered. But the next day-- with my 60P Strong Rum killer hangover-- we hired a driver for the day, and were driven all around the 1.5 lane-wide death-defying St. Lucia vintage WWII roads which would put any classic roller-coaster to shame. I'd look out the window and see nothing but a vertiginous drop-off down to a miniature tropical forest at least half a mile straight down.
And the driver had to routinely "Beep-Beep" the horn every time he came to a blind curve, of which there were (I swear!) about 5,000, as the road constantly switchbacked up and down that beautiful island's extremely volcanic topography. Since the road was so narrow, *and two-way,* only that mutual "Beep-Beep" driver radar system averted who knows how many fatal head-on collisions per day. *I was fucking terrified.*
We arrived at St. Lucia's really quite astounding walk-through quite active volcano, Le Soufriere, and I sure was suffering and burbling also. How I managed to walk over those completely open packed sulphur goat-paths (with the black, boiling volcanic pools of superheated water frequently on both sides of them) without falling in and being boiled alive, I'll never know. Then again, I was so hung over, and immersed in that volcanic rotten-egg smell that I wouldn't have cared, lol.
Our tour guide very kindly talked me into talking a lump of volcanic sulfur which he handed me; it's in my living room as I type. It's a treasured souvenir of an amazing experience of that fabulous island, where everything in our hotel (Le Toc) was imprinted with images of Les Pitons.
The beach sand was pink, and so softly powdery that you sank ankle-deep with every step. The water was wonderful, but incredibly salty-- you could float like a cork and fall asleep (which I did). The tropical sea-shells were fantastic, although not what you'd call "big". But a lot of them were *cone shells* ... so we didn't wander through any tide pools, lol. And when we passed the sign declaring the nude beach, I stripped right off and felt more natural than I had since I'd been a toddler.
The people at the hotel were just wonderful, and gave my newlywed wife and I an amazing compliment. After some charming hesitation, our regular waiter asked us if we were American. When we answered "Yes", he laughed, and told us that the entire staff had been making bets as to whether or not we were actually American. I sensed I was missing something here ... and eventually our waiter explained that although we looked American, and sounded American ... we absolutely did not *act* like typical American tourists-- because we were just too polite, patient, and good-natured.
Putting it another way, our waiter said "We say down here, if they're white, and loud, and rude-- they're American!" And my wife and I just plain cracked up, we loved it!
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what a great idea. Time Team Canada So much interesting history that is passed over.
They should put wind powered electric energy.
The soil looks like you can grow almost anything in it.
That's easier said than done, just one wind turbine is over a $$$ million. To power the island they would need many, and they need to be replaced after 10 years. Nevis doesn't have anything close to that kind of budget.
Phil in those shorts though...
21.01 that little handle is the nose of an island tortoise.
Steel drums playing Time Team. You don't hear that every day.😂
I would rather have heard Phil playing his guitar. Still trying to find the episode with that in it. Thought it was on this one but apparently not.
Very interesting.
did anyone else notice that the face on the bit of pottery, isnt actually a face ? think of a shark laying on its back, with its mouth and nose holes exposed ?
At about 36:20 of this episode they're talking to a local while standing next to a pretty big pot plant. The guy is good natured but you can tell he'd rather that they all would just go away. How bad would it suck to have to talk to a film crew while standing in your pot patch?
32:36 Reminds me of Fire & Ice.
Why did it take me until 30 minutes into part 2, to realize the team is saying "Amerindians" as shorthand for "American Indians" not the name of a tribe. *smacks forehead*
Wow, I just got that.
Yes and no. While it originally was short for "American Indians" the term "Amerindian" is now the accepted term for the native peoples of South and Central America in the same way "Native Americans" or "First Nation Americans" is for the native peoples of North America. It's now a name in its own right and isn't shorthand.
But the tribal names of the people is known: the Kalinago and the Taino
Also, to English folks, “Indians” are from India. So they use the term “Amerindian” to make the distinction.
After watching several episodes that David Barker shows up in I find myself wondering if that isn't a bad hair piece he's sporting?
I wonder what word Carenza held back from saying at 18:42... awkward.
yeah a slight hesitation......
yeah
Chubachus I think you're reading too much into it.
+Chubachus she is used to saying "diggers." now, she had to try and remember that she needed to say "clearers" or "clearing team." I will say, that "diggers" may sound too close to the other word.....
+christosvoskresye I would have just said, "your crew."
The rice rat wasn't exactly [redacted] off by the European rats. European rats weren't [redacted] the rice rats, the latter being the size of a cat. The competed for food with them which certainly contributed to the extinction, but also - both species - were hunted by the imported mongoose.
The kind of things YT deletes your comments for nowadays...
A two stroke whipper snipper would have been a boon for stripping the vegetation.
It was good to hear it finally said that the original native people did not live in harmony with nature, but rather so depleted the environment that they were forced to move to other islands.
The 1680 earthquake maybe the same one that drowned Port Royal Jamacia
Is Amerindian just a generic term? Never heard of them and am pretty sure that the indigenous peoples of Nevis would have been Carib or Arawak peoples. So I am assuming that Amerindian is a British term for all Native Peoples of the Americas, best I can tell it is a portmanteau of American Indian.
Try to see them as an in-between coastal people's that held along the gulf areas 😊
Funny; if I had seen an Abrus ("jumbie") seed anywhere, I would never have connected it to slave housing....
Things folks do to get a vacation/holiday.
Ha... he's complaining about the hike....to the guy carrying the camera..
Come on..maya weren't from South America.
Why does Tony say "Amorindian"??????
The Caribe Indian site is here:
17.204271, -62.574785
Thanks for the coordinates. That would be the patch attached to a beach that Google Maps marks as "Herberts Beach", if any wish to use a pre-defined marker.
Hurricane Mick?
❤ Brits in the tropics ❤
Phil's genuine excitement & laughter charms everyone ❤
A lot of Davids in this program.
No medieval layer?
Hahaha
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Um yeah, no.
Who's finger nails are longer ?- Phil vs David
Someone didn't get the memo
Phil is a guitarist. That’s why he keeps them like that.
Great way to have a Caribbean holiday on the cheap - do some excavating!
Note that the title writer cannot spell Caribbean!
Corenza😍😍😍😘
Agreed she’s a babe don’t care what anybody says
Absolutely!
I hope that the kids helping them get the archaeology bug! That would be an awesome legacy of Time Time on Nevis.
Did you catch season 6 episode 3, at Thetford? They must have had half the school involved.
Amerindians ? You mean the Caribes ?
Insular Arawaks
The Carib were only one tribe (on the Lesser Antilles?). To be more correct, and inclusive, you would need to name the Taino, the Igneri, the Guanahatabey, the Ciguayo, and even the people of early Florida, the Tequesta, etc.
Or, you could just lump them all together and call them by a group term...I don't...something like "Amerindian", maybe?!?!
45:09 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
Can not believe their lack of effort to dig the slave village that was months away from becoming a golf course. What was the point of the trip? What in heavens happened to Phil's work ethic? Only Stewart gave an honest effort. They should have hired a retired SAS operator who would have used a compass and shot a azimuth and would have found the salve site in 2 hours instead of 4 days. Enough of the freaking pottery already. Lost opportunity and slave history lost.
So how would that SAS man know wtf to look??? Your being unrealistic. And as for digging, they didn't have time to clear those trees and all that bush, and no chance of getting machines they probably did not even have into that area.
They were asked to locate the slave village. Local archaeologists and historians can take it from there but they needed simple assistance in finding it. That's all.
It's painfully clear you have NEVER used a compass to try and find a location, or tried to walk a straight line in that kind of vegetation.
Guess this is pre-Helen, I miss her in the mix. Heleen offered a much easier touch, her energy most intelligent, confident, 0rofessional, and the total delivery is much more agreeable and even. Helen and Bridget, Stewart, Matt, and Rashkar, then Mick and Phil, my favorite Time Team Group, and the guy that was an Architectual Historian, a very attractive and intelligent professional, he is good in the later episodes.
Tragic that the Producer made such a poor decision, resulting in Helen, Stewart, and Mick departing.
WTH was he thinking, when ya have a 20 year Show Premium Successful Series?
Tempts me to name-call...
Idiot! Just can't help myself.
My apologies but he really was an .........
40:28, obvious racism. "These were not a noble people."
I’ve watched so many of these over the last few months I half expected the pottery expert to say “that’s a bit of samienware” (sp?) because it almost always is! But obviously we are in “modern” archeology on this episode.🤪
2:00 wearing shorts...in the tropics...in the bush...in waist high grass!
And the local are all wearing jeans, why didn't they take the hint!?
I know. Their next exploration will be discovering new bites, stings, and rashes.
I don't watch these in any order, but I have to wonder if this trip to the Carribean is the origin of Phil's booty shorts...?
Noooo....
Personally, I think he has marvelous legs! ❤️