Pete Rose - 4000 Hits - 1984 CBC-TV Montreal Expos broadcast
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- Friday, April 13, 1984. Montreal Expos vs Philadelphia Phillies at Olympic Stadium in Montreal, Quebec. This was the Expos' 1984 Home Opener. Canadian Broadcasting Corporation. Broadcasters Dave Van Horne and Duke Snider. Excerpt from the bottom of the 4th inning when Pete Rose got his 4000th Hit, a double, off pitcher Jerry Koosman.
Amazing, 4000 hit here in Montreal, 4,256 all time, never stopped!! Got the "Charlie Hustle" nickname from Mickey Mantle as a young rookie. If you are a baseball purest & love this game, you take 2 things away from this clip- Pete Rose undoubtedly deserve to be in the Hall of Fame, & Baseball needs to be back in Montreal!!!
SICK HITTER!!!
Cobb and Speaker are in the HOF, aren't they?
It's still weird seeing Pete Rose in an Expos uniform.
I remember, Canada want to attract baseball fans bring people to games,
It’s still weird seeing the Washington Nationals playing in the league and not the Montreal Expos. 😉
Reds or Phils. What is koosman doing on the Phillies 1984 ??
I had no idea he ever played for the Expos.
@@George50809 I think it was just half a season. It kind of need such footage to realize it because even I barely remembered it.
I remember watching this as a 13 year old in 1984 and thinking how old Pete looked. Pete doesn't look so old now that I'm 47. =)
Koosman looks much older than Rose.
The Expos had awesome outfits.
RobotYoshimis I've always liked their logo. Very cool and clever.
Totally agree. I love the Expos' uniforms.
Sharp!!!!!!!
The 80s uniforms were and still to this day unmatched
Nice to see former Mets Jerry Koosman on the mound. I had been a Mets fan, but I liked the old Jarry Park and the way the stadium announcer would pronounce John Boccabella's name.
The Ft. Lauderdale newspaper the next day said "4,000" - with the zeroes replaced with roses.
That was cool.. I never saw it ..but i bet it was nice..
The guy made a mistake, and has spent a lifetime owning up to it. I think it's time we forgive one of the greatest players to ever grace the diamond.
RAQUAAHWA TheCodedtestament The Hit King had to wait too long for his rightful place in the hall of fame and no matter how long they refuse him entry they cannot take his 4000+ career hits away from him.
I know they should put him in the Hall of Fame it's not like he did steroids or rape somebody or kill somebody OK betting was bad it's not even that bad
RAQUAAHWA TheCodedtestament How is OJ Simpson in the NFL HOF but Pete Rose isn't in the MLB HOF
Because Simpson was inducted to the Hall of Fame in 1985, but the murders happened in 1994. Pete Rose was banned from baseball in 1989, but wouldn't be eligible for the Hall of Fame until 1992.
RAQUAAHWA TheCodedtestament he just admitted that he used to screw a 16 year old back in the day. ...
Detroit Tigers did have an unbelievable start at 35-5.
1984 was a year to remember for Detroit Tigers fans.
Yeah, I remember that 35-5 start.
@George50809 Not much else after that.
Two World Series appearances.
After the Players strike and Sparky left Tigers were dreadful for 10 years after that
Duke & Dave were awesome broadcaster for Expos too. Never big Rise fan,but was a great player, deserves to be in hall.
Dont care what Cooperstown says, this guy is a Hall of Famer.
Use that energy to get someone like Buck O'Neil in the Hall of Fame. Oh wait, you're white.
He is THEE Hall Of Famer
@@manuginobilisbaldspot424 So is Manu Ginobili's bald spot. ;-)
If someone had exactly 200 hits for 21 years in a row they would still be 56 hits short of Rose's record.
Nobody gets 200 hits/year anymore. It's a thing of the past.
@@hazelwood55 Nobody gets 200 hits a year anymore? That's hardly true. Every year since 1991 the MLB leader has had at least 200 hits except for 2013 and 2018 outside of strike years and this year's abbreviated season. Ichiro was the first player ever to have 200 hits for 10 straight seasons. The 200-hit season is hardly a thing of the past. Twenty-game winners for pitchers? Now that's a different story. That really is becoming a thing of the past.
@@1981lashlarue One of these years, we will have a 20-game winning relief pitcher, mostly the result of a guy being in the right place at the right time a lot. Mitch Williams won 8 games in a month for the Phillies one year. It'll take that kind of fluky timing spread over the whole season, but it will happen!
@@mikerussell1859 You may be correct. However, with so many more relievers now on roster that may make it less likely but time will tell. So far, the closest we've come is Roy Face's 18-1 season I believe.
Well i was there folks ! Believe it or not. I was 11 years old out with my school class 5th grade. I lived near the us border at the time, at 35 minutes from montreal, and I don't remember anything about that game beside Pete's 4000 hit. Great stuff !
I didn't realize Montreal was that close to the US border.
@@George50809 in fact it is. Without traffic you could easily go from the US border in Rouses point to Montreal in 35 minutes. Of course with traffic today Google directions are estimated at 48 minutes but at the time it was possible. I lived in Lacolle, QC. cheers
Bring back the Expos
I absolutely love the Expos uniform!
Really interesting Pete would get his 4,000th hit as an Expo AND batting right-handed.
Depending on how long Mike Trout plays for and how much longer life on earth exists, this could be the only video footage to ever exist showing an MLB player reaching the 4,000-hit mark. It's an incredibly difficult and rare achievement. Rose was one-of-a-kind. There was no televised baseball when Ty Cobb played so this footage is a treasure that should always be preserved for generations.
Mike aint doing it
U so right
eat a Lg. 1
What are you talking about? Ichiro Suzuki got over 4,000 hits in his baseball career! And that 4,000th hit was televised!
@@furnitureconsortium I meant 4,000 strictly MLB hits. Ichiro got 4,000 combined hits between Japan and the U.S.
@@ryantouhey1997 doesn’t change the rarity of 4,000 hits and it doesn’t dilute the fact that Ichiro got 4,000 hits on a professional level.
It was an honor to have Rose with the Expos.
I couldn't believe it when Pete came to Canada!!!!!!!
i miss the expos!
You have to be consistently good to even get to 3000 hits, let alone 4000.
I just looked up Miguel Cabrera's stats, the guy has been a beast for 18 seasons... only 2,800 hits °o°
Miggy gets walked a lot...he, Pujols, and A-Rod are demons to pitchers...they can do everything from hit for contact to hit it out of the park as a result to neutralize guys like that they walk...Willie Mays and Hank Aaron were hitters like this but back then pitchers didn’t use the walk as a strategy the way they do now!
@@CBsays_
There's a number of HOF hitters with just under 3k hits. Mickey Mantle has about 2400, Mantle also has 530 or so homers. Rose has 160 dingers. Rose was a singles hitter, a slap hitter. I just looked, Rose won the '73 mvp with 5, count' em, 5 homeruns.
To be considered the greatest a hitter needs at least 500 homeruns.
A switch hitter too, big advantage
That turf ruined many knees.
Just ask Andre Dawson.That's why he went to Chicago to play on grass.
Wow! 4000 hits!?!? This guy is a future hall of famer
Pete Rose,Tim Raines, Andre Dawson, Gary Carter, Tim Wallach, Terry Francona what a great lineup the Expos had
Right 3 are in the HOF and the 4th should be.
Terry Franconia sucked as a player
So weird seeing Pete Rose in that Expo uniform. Most of the time I forget he even played in Montreal since he was there so briefly.
RIP Pete Rose. 9/30/24.
I was at that game!
Pure gold (and he actually showed his great feel for the game when he later scored). RBI by another great legend, Tim Raines.
Like how he hustles for a double. And scores from second on a bloop single.
Was never a big fan of Charlie Hustle, but he sure did Rock those Expos Unis, for the brief time he was in Montreal
Did I hear Jerry Koosman one of the heroes of the 1969 "Miracle" Mets? Amazing.
Scooby Carr The winning pitcher of the last game of that series. Two baseball greats going at it.
Koosman makes Rose look like a youngster.
Koosman was traded by the White Sox to the Phil's for another 40+ yr old, reliever Ron Reed in the prior offseaon
Wow, that poor umpire at 3:56 He got the biggest snub of all time.
dude WTF is that a picture of? lmfao!!!
MovieManiac33 Yeah now that i look at it again, it does look like he was going to hold on to it. Good catch.
Frank Pulli
Had no idea Pete played for the Expos. Greatest hitter of all time!
***** He signed with Montreal as a free agent. He was traded to the Reds for Tom Lawless in August. The next season is when he broke Ty Cobb's record.
Pete rose was a switch hitter that gave him advantage of master baseball hitter of ty cobb
He's not the greatest hitter of all time. He played long enough to climb a leader-board. He played in 3,562 games. 527 more games than Ty Cobb (and over 250 more games than 2nd place of most games played) yet only has 67 more hits than Cobb. Something Cobb probably would have gotten in another 50 games tops. Rose's career batting average sits at 179th of all time (.303), an entire .063 below Cobb. Rose only led the NL in batting average 3 times in his 24 year career (Cobb had 12 batting titles for reference), with a career best of .348 (Cobb had 16 seasons batting better than .348, including 3 seasons over .400. Ted Williams also had 3 seasons over .400 and 7 seasons over .348) Rose also never exceeded 16 HRs in a season so it's not like he blended any power into his game either. Ted Williams hit AT LEAST 23 HRs in every season he played at least most of the season besides his last when he was 40 years old. He had 30+ HR seasons 8 times. Rose had 9 seasons of 200+ hits which is great, but something Ichiro surpassed in just his first 10 years of playing MLB.
Rose was great, no doubt but his longevity is more impressive than any metric of his hitting and if every player could somehow play 3,500 games he wouldn't be anywhere close to the top of any leaderboard.
@@jayjayjames2332 Shove it.
This is the first time I remember seeing Pete Rose as a kid. Him playing for the Expos.
Kinda weird seeing Pete in an Expos uni. He looked good in it.
Pete Hall of Fame
Charlie Hustle with the grey hair! Just for Men product was used the following season when he broke Cobb's record.
Koosman makes Rose look like a youngster.
Seeing Pete Rose in Montreal Expos blue is weird.
Tampa Bay will be in Montreal soon enough, Expos fans!
Montreal brought more fans to their seats in the 1980s than the YANKEES did the entire decade.
***** Tampa is locked in Florida until 2027. Good luck waiting.
We shall see about that.
***** The Rays have a unique "Use agreement" with the city. Moving isn't an option any time soon.
www.forbes.com/sites/ericmacramalla/2014/12/12/sorry-expos-fans-the-tampa-bay-rays-arent-moving-to-montreal/
We shall see about that.
Rules are meant to be broken. I've been well aware of the 2027 thing for quite some time now.
I hope Expo team would come back.. If i hit lotto i make sure they do come back..
I miss the Montreal Expos
Tim Raines was an excellent hitter too...Can’t forget about him.
I was thrilled the Expos signed Pete in 1984 but was left puzzled why they put him in left field rather than at First to start the season. I bet he was too.
One of the Greatest baseball players of all time!! No One else in mlb history has ever, Along with his talents,Sprinted to 1st base on outs!! Just Said about gambling keeping him from HOF!! I'd vote him, but I get it!! Only Thing Paul Hornung in Football Hall of Fame,Did He Gamble??? Do Athletes Today bet on their Sport??
I forgotten for the life of me that Rose was with Montreal when he got 4,000......Great great player. I watched him play my whole life. I grew up in 60's and 70's six blocks away from Wrigley field. But the Cubs were in division with Cinci, somI well remember the Big Red Machine. Wow man, Pete was great, but he was a true fuck up and is still lying.
Rose has storied careers with the Reds and Phillies, and gets his 4000th hit with a Canadian team that he's with for half a season...wow lol
MvG Sports Well he spent 4 months with the Expos. Was traded to the Reds in August.
Steve Carlton had a storied career with the Cardinals and Philies yet his 4000th strikeout came while he was a member of the Giants. Sometimes these things happen....
Great clip!! Charlie Hustle lives up to his name! Man these clips take me back to being a kid and hanging on every pitch of Expo games. Thanks
So Pete Rose's 4000th hit was also his 1000th extra-base hit? Did I hear that right at 5:02 ? That's a pretty crazy coincidence if so.
I know right
He also had a total of 3000 singles a the time.
If the MLB waits for him to be dead before putting him in the hall it'll be a disgusting moment and should of been done years ago, there is nobody even close to his numbers and yet cause he gambled he gets fucked, steroids I could see it but the man is a legend and at least the fans know it!
Bravo encore!!!! On ne reconnait pas assez son exploit!!! Même à Montréal , on ne parle jamais de lui :(
It's Charlie Hustle on the eve of his 43rd birthday, folks!
BTW, CBC stopped televising Expos games after the 1988 season...and hasn't done so until the Expos moved to Washington, DC to become the Nationals.
This video ranks right up there with watching Michael Jordan in a Wizards uniform, Wayne Gretzky in a Rangers, or Johnny Unitas as a Charger....rather dissettling...still to see 43 year old Pete smack a double off another veteran lefty, Jerry Koosman, is pretty cool stuff....
Montana in a Chiefs uni. Really? Imagine Kareem, Magic, & Bird as...Pacers!
3:33 4,000 hit
Charlie Hustle scoring a run...HUSTLING!!!!!!!
Expos uniforms and logo out of this world!
Pete’s record won’t be beat for a looooooong time. Players today struggle to hit .250, Pete hit .300 almost every year like it was nothing.
Pete on the surface seemed so out of place in that Expos uniform. But it was red,white and blue.A few months later Pete was home in Cincinnati. And in the end that's likely where he will be buried someday. I do believe Pete will make it to the HOF someday. An aged if not elderly Pete Jr will except plaque.
Another Expos favorite was coaching fist base at that time... at 4:10.
How.. the hell.. did a team with Andre Dawson, Gary Carter, Rock Raines, Pete Rose, and more end up below 500? I hope the manager was fired lol
Not sure if I recall Koosman still playing in 1984.
EXPOS??!!
...immediately runs to look up Pete Rose Expos cards!!!
Duke Snider mentions at 5:00 that Rose's 4000th hit was also his 1000th extra-base hit. I had never heard that before.
Nothing against the Expos, but the Pete Rose 4000th hit would have been so much better had Pete gotten it as a Red or Philly.
I wonder how Rose felt when he hit 4000 career hit infront of his ex-teammate specially Mike Schmidt?
So 25 percent of Pete Rose's hits were for extra bases? That's pretty good...or is that "normal"?
Saw the Expos first game vs the Mets and watched through the years till the end, which should never have come. Most people don't know that the Expos had one of the best organizations in baseball for years. That's Montreal and all their minor clubs. Every time I see a video of the Expos, it makes me miss them even more. I liked how players could be traded wherever in the old days. The guys hustled the butts off and weren't paid millions. The players today get a bad back as soon as they sign a huge contract. Their wallets can't carry millions. Still a great game, baseball is. Buy the Rays and get them out of TB. Put them in the big O for a couple of years while a new stadium is being built. If my memory is not completely shocked, I remember the Expos playing a game or two in Winnipeg and in Vancouver. Also many games in Puerto Rico near the end. Miss the Boys of Montreal. There were many stars through the years for Montreal.
It's great to see a Hall of Famer get a hit and a couple of RBI's! Go Tim Rains...LOL!
RIP. wish he'd've been inducted while he was still alive.
RIP Charlie Lea!!!.....love Dave Van Horne
i remember watching this game live on CBC TV 9
Pete got his hit and the cameras and broadcasters did not even acknowledge that Charlie Lea advanced to third (or scored). I'm watching and waiting to look for a score or a glance at both runners and I don't see an update. Finally, following Raines' looping hit the cameras showed both Lea and Rose on the base paths. They apparently all were star struck by Rose, the greatest competitor in baseball history. Only 192 more hits to eclipse Cobb! Go Reds!
PETE ROSE H.O.F
Before the non working non functioning “retractable roof” at the big O
I understand the concept. He broke the golden rule. And I don't think only good players should be forgiven and not so good shouldn't. I disagree with the severity of the punishment for one thing and another is it is different,no matter what anyone says. Betting on your team to win is a lot different than betting on them to lose and throw the game. Which he did not do.
37 years later no one has hit 4000 and i dont see it happening anytime soon
Deserves to be in the Hall of Fame.
Still arrogant though.
Thanks for that video. I didn't that Rose had hit his 4000e hits with the Expos.
i think this was his 1,001st extra base hit, not his 1,000th.
*I wonder if Pete had bet on this being the 4000 hit game*
consider this- if you got 200 hits for 21 straight seasons you still haven't caught Pete Rose
It's so weird to see Jerry Koosman as a Phillie and Pete Rose as an Expo. It's like a bizarro game from another dimension.
And then the whole thing was so low key. My God, the guy just reached 4000 hits. Now they would stop the game and have a small acknowledgement or something.
4,000 hits and they guy gets one handshake from DeJesus who hands him the ball. Weird shit.
Pete got his 3000 hit off Steve Rodgers in 1978 and to get his 4000 as a expo was a great moment. the 83 Phil's should him won the 83 series.
Fond Memories.
so weird seeing rose in an expos uniform
He should be in Cooperstown
I watched this on tv.
iamnewfie1 i loved CBC i lived 30 miles outside of Detroit watched expose and blue jays CFL and last but not least Hockey Night in Canada.... us michiganders loved CBC!
great job charlie hustle
Pete was 43 years old here.
wow! look at that crowd!
Kooz and Rose in strange uniforms.
Wow i guess Pete's been out of the limelight so long i forgot he played with Montreal.
Had no idea Rose had been an Expo. And I'm from Montreal lol... That's a shock!
*****
Well, obviously...
Is that a problem for you, Jim Bo?
I'm from Sherbrooke Quebec and I never knew too
Max Headroom
By the way, you've got the best pseudo name man! Childhood memories ;)
+Cedericoco Santorini. Lol Thanks . Max was a legend in the eighties and the TV hijacking too 😎👍
it will never be done again and thats the celebration? LAME.
I can't believe no teammates came onto the field to congratulate Rose. 4000 hits is a major milestone. WT#%@$
What are incredibly exclusive club. Pete Rose and Ty Cobb, those are the only members.
El Rey del Hit
Koosman makes Rose look like a youngster.
Koosman is 20 months younger than Rose.
three hall of famers hitting in the same inning
Canada 4000th hit vs former team Phillies. Hall of Famer without a doubt!
i think that's steve carlton pitching. i could see how the announcers'd get 'em mixed up though.
True strange fact. Color man Duke Snider lived in San Diego while broadcasting Montreal Expo games. WTF?
Montreal is awesome ... but if you get to live in San Diego ... you live in San Diego.
RIP Charlie Lea...:-[