The tyre kicker for me of buying a Brompton was the 'brompton traveller' as I like to tour on my full sized bike the fact that if the weather took a turn for the worst or injury etc. I can just hop on a train/bus, agreed, Brompton should be giving you some freebies.awesome inspiring uploads .
On my 2nd Brompton, this one a 6-speed with a rear rack and a lighting system. I've lived in South Korea, the U.S. and now Budapest with them. Superb commuting bike, and much better than you might think over distances. In Hungary, I did a 5-day bike around Lake Balaton and its 150-mile circumference. Practical, reliable, well-made and fun! Pure enjoyment!
Hi Gianni. Inspired by reading your book and watching some of your videos my wife and I did our first mini-tour on our Bromptons last week, across Anglesey and the North Wales coast.. I used your rucksack attachment method, using a bar made from a section of old bike pump with a couple of light practice golf balls on the end. For a backpack we used a waterproof Elops one from Decathlon - very inexpensive and perfect for the purpose. Thanks, and please keep posting your rides! Jonathan
Wonderful Jonathan. UA-cam sometimes hides comments... Great to have had a little part in your ride then and I hope you enjoyed it! I will look at those Decathlon backpacks as they usually sell good value but also good quality products.
A Spanish friend sent me the link to your Chile/Argentina tour, and I don't really watch videos much but glad I kept watching!! What a horror at the start of Argentina!! I don't envy you a bit! We have two electric folding bikes, and my friend has a Brompton, tho I have no idea which model. Stay safe and thanks for the tour!!
You are way too much of a adventurous biker than I @@BromptonTraveler!!! I am watching this and wondering "when does this guy find the TIME to review all his videos and process it all? Very nicely done, plus the scenics are awesome and sharp!! Thanks again!
Excellent. Reading your book as well. Glad your mentioning a few mishaps as well while touring. Wishing sunny skies and smooth sailing with each pedal stroke
Personally, I think it is better to skip the rear rack seen in the video, saving weight and use a detachable seatpost rear rack if needed. The reduced gearing option is indeed a good idea as mentioned.
I plan a long tour soon…and I debated between my full size specialized or my brompton….I’ve choose my brompton after doing local tours and your videos. Thank you! I’ll be getting your book for more information and inspiration.
Thank you for posting this and other beautiful traveling videos. I went a step further to your website to checkout more tips on packing up the Brompton, very informative. Appreciate if you could share your experiences on flying with the "Brompton package" and things to watch out for
Hello from Switzerland. After my first ride from Lyon to Avignon (Via Rhone) without a rack, I travelled now the Velodysee (EV1) from Bordeaux via Roscoff to Brest (1.000 km). Now, with my rack, I used you hack for the backpack and the idea with the stick. I used a wooden stick and made some nuts in it, to fit better on my Brooks saddle. Thank you very much for this idea. It works perfect. By the way: What and how do you do maintenance during travelling? We had a lot of sandy and dusty tracks for bikes and the bike looks horrible full with dust every day, but I could‘n wash it every day. Which parts do you clean regularly and how often do you do this and which parts need new grease or oil and of often do you do that?
My longest travels on a Brompton have been a month long and I only took some reasonable care of keeping the chain tidy and lubricated every week or so. If you get it really dirty it is sometime worth stopping by a bike shop ( if you find any... ) and just say you are traveling and ask if they would mine cleaning the chain. It isn't always easy when touring to carry messy rags and degreasers that can help the task. Next I just keep lubricated parts like brake callipers, the bolts of the fold mechanism and if it gets messy disassemble the rear shifter and give that a thorough clean. They are tough bikes!
Hi...If you want to tour on a folding bike, the Bike Friday would be a better option. Also, why not use a carbiner to attach your backpack to the metal frame of the Brooks saddle...much simpler. Also, you should substitute these handlebars shown for the butterfly bars that Brompton offer as an option....this will be much more comfortable on long rides and the variable hand positions it offers will help prevent the pins and needles feeling in your arm and hands. Also, just wondering if you suffer from broken spokes...especially on the back wheel?..as the Brompton is not designed to carry heavy loads on the back.
Suneel, to each his own. Brompton are fantastic touring bikes and are used by more and more people for touring. I know Bike Friday are also good but one advantage of the Brompton is that it folds smaller. I am used to the bar but I know carabiner can also be a solution. Straps seat more naturally on the bar as they would on your shoulder. One day I will give carabiners a try and see how that goes. I don't like those butterfly bars and that is why I use Ergon grips to give me extra hands positions on the bike. I never had a broken spoke even on rough roads in Patagonia and the Himalayas.
No, I think that would not work as it gets you well above the normal luggage allowance. Bikes wouldn't normally be allowed in the cabin although I have heard that it has been done in domestic US flights before. Cheers
@@BromptonTraveler thanks I also had a question why bring the extra tire when even when puntured isn't the inner tube that needs replacing? You can have a hole in the tire and if the inner tube ok, you should be fine right? I personally don't want to be carrying around another tire when touring. What are your thoughts of why u bring it?
It depends how long you go for and where you go. If you go for more than 1000 kilometres on badly surfaced roads there is a chance that your tyre will wear out and you start getting too many puncture. That is when it is good to have a spare, just in case. If you leave with new or good conditions tire you probably never need it but if you do and are in most countries in the world, you will not find a good spare tire for Brompton small wheels.
@@BromptonTraveler Exactly I used other puncture resistance tyres but none of them worked as schwalbe and i went from having a lot of punctures to almost none.
grazie gianni!! ho già sperimentato lo zaino posteriore come l'hai suggerito tu, ed effettivamente spostarlo indietro e in verticale è comodo per la pedalata! per un lungo viaggio è comodissimo :) grazie per questi consigli!!
Thank you for posting this informative and helpful video, Gianni. I really appreciate your passion and enjoy watching all your inspiring bike touring videos.
Hi I have a an M6 Brompton with the standard wide range 3 speed hub. I fitted a 39T chainring to help with climbing hills for touring. You mentioned early in the video a 12% reduction option is that in the hub? If so which hub is it? Thanks for an excellent video :)
Hi Jim, not in the hub gear but in the chainring and as you have changed already to a 39T crankset you have what Brompton refers to as a 'reduced' gear option. Mine has 44T which I think is actually advertised by Brompton as reducing ratios by -18% rather than the 12 I mentioned. Many thanks!
@@BromptonTraveler Ah thank you. I tried the 44 option on a local 25% gradient hill. It took me two attempts to get up it. So I dropped to 39 and it is no problems now. Thank you 🙏
How do you keep your rucksack clean? The Brompton rear wheel will throw up a lot of crap onto the straps and bottom of the rucksack especially if you are riding muddy tracks, dirty roads. I don't have a rack on mine so use a seat post rack low down with smalll panniers. I guess you must really want to carry a rucksack maybe for hiking? The weight seems pretty high up on your bike and right at the back. I have an original front touring pannier with all metal frame, no plastic, it's great as you say.
Alex I always have a mudguard on the wheel so it is not that bad even on muddy roads and wet days. I always cover the backpack with a rain cover mostly to keep it clean but also to keep it dry. Rucksack is very versatile. Can be used for hiking although I haven't done any on my trips but it is easy to carry each time you need to carry the bike or move it on buses or train. The rucksack at the back looks pretty full but I try to keep it lighter than the T-Bag at the front. It mostly contains bulky things like sleeping bag, clothes, dimpa bag and the tools at the bottom.
@@BromptonTraveler Thank you for replying. I guess there are various ways to do things. It obviously works for you. What size litres is your rucksack 30 litres?
Hello again Gianni, how are you? I don't have the money to afford a Brompton, do you think or have information about other foldings bikes not too expensive? I know that the cheaper is not good quality normally, but maybe a Dahon or Tern? Thank you and have a nice Friday
HI Damian, I know Brompton are pretty expensive bikes. I owned a Dahon in the past and wasn't happy with reliability but this was a decade ago and I am sure they have improved things but I am no expert in recommending a model for you. Another thing worth considering is the fact that unlike Brompton, Dahon and Tern and most other folding bikes are not as compact when folded which takes away the main reason why one should use them for touring instead of going for a regular, larger bike. Another option for you to consider is having a look if any 2nd hand Brompton bike is on for sale. While they do keep a good re-sell value, that would save you quite a bit on price. Otherwise have a look at Tern or Dahon bearing in mind how small they fold and see what works better for you. Cheers
@@BromptonTraveler grazie per la risposta, non so su scrivere in spagnolo, italiano o inglese, ma ti ringrazio veramente per tua risposta. Sono in Argentina adesso e non si trova la Brompton. Magari in marzo andò a Italia e vedo chi cosa è meglio per me. Buon weekend Gianni
Complimenti, ottimo tutorial (piccole modifiche mirate e alla portata di tutti) e complimenti anche per i tuoi video di viaggio, sempre molto apprezzati! Sarebbe interessante, almeno per me, avere qualche informazione sull'abbigliamento, a quanto sembra nei tuoi viaggi non indossi "abbigliamento tecnico". Grazie, Massimo.
How big is backpack? 35-45 liters? consider same system but for Tern folding bike. 45 liters backpack is minimum for 2 weeks walking treek if have ultralight tent and sleeping bag. With bike want add two bags on front for storage stove, bike part and some cloth.
The one I use is 45L as you guessed but it has a roll on top which means that you can shrink or extend that a little... Good size for a few weeks trip together with the T Bag at the front.
@@BromptonTraveler THX it has sens. Have some plans for trek in Georgia, Armenia may Iran. Share cheap transport: bike, autostop, bus... I'm not good biker especially in mountains, prefer walking.
Gianni Filippini I walk a lot! Believe me, walking is something I’m not embarrassed to do. But walking at 2.7mph is harder after awhile than 2.7mph spinning a low gear. This makes the top end pretty low on the downs and tailwind flats but you can’t win them all I guess.
I find that walking breaks the routine of cycling. You can get off the saddle and use different muscles for a bit which is good. Of course if you end up walking hours you might as well go for a trek instead! :)
Great Video. What is the maximum weight that can be safely carried on the brompton? I also feel that the schwalbe marathon tyres are a bit puncture prone. I think schwalbe marathon plus is a better option.
Mahesh V thanks! Yes I normally use schwalbe Marathon plus and find them the best for Brompton. Weight of luggage shared between T Bag and backpack is around 20 kg. Front T Bag can hold up to 10kg according to specification. Also consider your weight to figure out how much you can load the bike. I weight around 75 Kg and carry about 20 Kg of luggage with me when I travel with the bike. Thanks
My friend I love his videos and I am subscribed to his channel, I also have my Brompton bicycle and I do cross-country rides in Argentina, check out his exped 1 backpack of how many liters is it? and another query because it has a spare seatpost, is it not too hard to break? I am very happy to have found your channel Thank you !!! atte demian gonzalez
Thanks Demian. Exped rucksack is 45 litres. Sore seat post is not necessary but I bring it to keep the backpack stable and I put it on the bike when I fly because it is smaller than extended seat post! Many thanks
I can't understand. What was wrong with just drawing up the zip-locks, instead of leaving them loose? The leather straps do not seem to be doing anything useful.
effyleven You can do that but I use the zip locks mostly as a help to fit the leather straps. Leather straps are what hold the weight of the bar. Zip locks serve as a backup too in the event that the strap gets torn and breaks while you are cycling. Two thick zip locks would be probably enough on their own but I got used to this setup. Cheers
It all depends on what you want to carry. My backpack is 45L and with shoulders straps, easy to carry on my shoulders when transporting the bike. If you want you can also hike with it which is a bonus. Not sure about the capacity of the Brompton rack sack but sure not as much? Cheers
Ciao Gianni, great to follow your journeys, just bought a new B. hoping to be able to do some trips in Scandinavia. I did not find any tips from yourself on which saddle to use and how to preserve your lower ... after days biking. Also, any tips on bike lighting? grazie mille
Grazie Luigi, molto gentile! As much as the parts affected, saddles are a very personal thing...I love Brooks B17 leather saddles and that is what i have always used in the last 10 years. They do take a month or so to get in shape but to me they are way more comfortable than synthetic or sporty saddles on long rides. When I tour i also wear regular outdoor trousers rather than cycling shorts with padding, as those are hard to keep dry and clean. After a couple of days you do get used to the long time on the saddle. Best advice, once you found a saddle that suits you, is to use the first few days of your tour to increase the length of your cycling. Start gently and build up from that; it will also help with how you adjust to the fitness you need. As for bike lighting i carry small rubber lights that can be wrapped on the handlebar at the front and hanged on my backpack or saddle post at the rear but rarely use them. They are for emergency if there is fog or i am caught when it gets a little dark and i have no option to stop there and then. Ciao!
Saddle are a personal choice but as far as my experience they are by far the most comfortable saddles for bike touring and that is why they are probably the most commonly used.
It was one of the three feet of the base! All you need is something that is 5-10cm wider on each side than the shoulder straps of the back you use. I would say something around 30-35 cm should work...Mine is 32cm. If you want a lighter weight and don't mind spending the money you can get some carbon fibre bars online which are really light and resistant. I use one of those at the base of the back pack to pull it away from my shoes.
I've tried a backpack on the rack, but I prefer to use a rack bag with a 45L dry sack bungee corded on top fixed to the rack instead. I find it more stable as the centre of gravity is lower. Just personal preference. A trekking pole is useful to wedge under the saddle as a stand, whilst also doubling as a tent pole as well as for if you do any trekking. I got the idea of using a trekking pole as a stand from Heinz Stücke, the chap noted for setting the world record for bicycle touring in 1995. In a global journey spanning more than 50 years,. I think he's retired now due to age, but he finished up touring by Brompton. He used a backpack rested on the rack in his touring set up. facebook.com/heinzstucke/?ref=br_rs
Thanks so much for sharing. If you have a link with a picture it would be nice to see. Backpack is very stable with a bar at the bottom but I found that it should also have some kind of a metal frame to make it stable. Last trip I tried a soft backpack with no frame and it was not as stable. My usual backpack was still where I had left it once when I took a mighty fall coming down a mountain! I met Heinz Stucke in London once. Amazing guy!
@@BromptonTraveler I don't have a link, but I use the T bag and Bromptom's rack bag, the lightweight dry sack, like a sausage, on top with a couple of bungees down to hook on the rack and the wrap and clip together lid looped around the saddle post so I can't lose it. My sleeping bag in a bivvy bag and shelter (tarp) goes in the dry sack, plus clothes in a plastic bag to ensure they stay dry. I also put eazee wheels on the rack as I use the bike as a shopping trolley, as folded up apart from the handlebars, with either the T bag left attached or the rack bag detached from the rack, turned 180° around to rest and strapped to the main tube, then they will work as a basket. This also means I don't need to touch a trolley or basket at the supermarket, in these times of pandemic. I also have the IKEA bag as I've had bus drivers say the bike must be in a bag in the past.
Thanks for the tips! One thing I like about having only the backpack is the ease to take it on train and planes as I put that on my shoulder and have free hands for bike and T-bag but we all find out what works best. Thanks!
Hi Jorge. It is hard to say for sure as it depends on how reliable the bike is? If you have had the bike for a while and you can trust it maybe you can start with a shorter tour to find out how it performs? Doing that you can also learn what are the vulnerable parts and bring some spare parts with you and learn how to fix it. It is possible to tour with any bicycle. People have toured the world on old rickety bikes! :)
Schwalbe Marathon whether the regular or the Plus which is more expensive but has further puncture protection. I have been happy with regulars and have used mostly those in the last few years. Cheers
Very good video! I know that brands differ, but generally, what size backpack (in liters) do you use? I'd like to maximize available space but don't want to get one that's too big and ruin the ride quality. Thank you.
Thanks! I am posting a video in the next few days on the backpack as I often receive this question and there are other things to consider. To answer you the one I use is a 45L which I find suits me for trips up to a month. I have seen others carrying larger one or smaller ones though; depending on how much stuff you want to carry anything from 40L up is fine. Too small and you risk having to stretch the straps too much for it to seat on the rear rack, putting too much strain on the straps but mostly bringing too much swinging and movement as you ride.
Have you ever carried the Brompton onto the plane? I saw a video of an American Airlines employee who carries his Brompton onto the plane. He may be using his influence as an employee or does that work for everyone? 🎒✈️ 🛫
No I never tried! I think people who do it misty do it on domestic flights. It’s a little stressful if you find out at the last minute you cannot and need to pack it quickly.
Ces I have a few videos on this channel explaining in detail how I pack my bike for flight. You can start from this one ua-cam.com/video/z8jclyfxSBg/v-deo.html
Would you say 6-speed is obligatory for touring in general? I wonder if the 2 speed version with the derailleur can be enough. From my trekking bike I know that a lot of times you can have plenty of gears but only few of them are actually usable, since they are often either so easy or so hard that using them barely makes sense. When the space betwen 1st and 2nd gear is good I think 2 speeds may be enough.
Max Meier Hi Max thanks for the question. Everything is possible provided you don’t mind the limitations. I heard of people touring the world on fixies with only one speed! I would say 6 reduced gears on a Brompton is the sweet spot for me. These will meet most conditions that you are likely to encounter. Those times when they are not enough it means you might have to walk which personally I enjoy and don’t mind. 2 gears only will mean that you will be more likely to not feel comfortable. Also remember you are carrying weight of your luggage. Hope this helps.
Hi Gianni Thanks for a great set of videos! A question: when you say “6 reduced gears”, what does that mean? Is that the standard Brompton 6 year bike? Or is this some kind of a modification? Thanks
I think the Dimpa bag comes in only one size. If you need the dimensions according to IKEA it is Length: 65 cm Depth: 22 cm Height: 65 cm. It fits a Brompton + tent and other stuff quite well.
With Brooks saddle they do recommend to use Proofide wax but to be honest I have never done anything to the B17 I have and after 7 years on my first bike it was still in excellent conditions. When you tour you are sitting on the bike all day and if it rains, which is the main concern with leather, you are either sitting on it or taking cover. At night a Brompton allows you to have the bike covered by the tent flysheet ( with most tents...) and that greatly helps the saddle to stay dry.
@@BromptonTraveler 🤔 make sense. I asked because, I’m not sure what to get. Leather or Cambium from brooks. If u search for leather, it sounds like - new Sattel = so much maintenance, u need to fat and wax them regularly, still so sensitive ( specially rain ) and the C Sattle will rip ur pants if ur to big. So ur Answer sounds great, I think try a Leather one. Just need to find the right size. Thank you, that was a big help
@@seductive_Octopus I love these leather saddles. Most comfortable I have every used for touring and no wonder they are the saddle you mostly see when bike touring. Enjoy
This month I cycled on my brompton for almost 400km but during the last 70km I found there was sth wrong with the front wheel bearing, which didn't roll smoothly and was constantly making noise. It seems that the front bearing of brompton is not so enduring. I wonder if you have come across such problems before? Can your front bearing survive a long trip like 2000km?
Hi Frank. Sorry to hear that.From my experience and hearing from others, you had just bad luck and if it was a new Brompton I hope it is quickly sorted out for you... I have cycled about 12000 on my old Brompton without any mechanical issues. I do make sure I service it before my trips and do keep it well maintained and lubricated but generally it has been bomb proof. I bought a new one recently and cycling 2500km to Italy with no issues as well. Quality on these bikes usually is outstanding. Cheers
As always excellent information Gianni - thank you. Couple of questions: 1. What length is your ‘bar’ under the seat that you attach your backpack to? 2. I noticed the bar was sticking out of the Dimpa Bag when you packed it up (& you twisted your seat sideways?) - do you remove this bar when packing for plane travel? Or just leave it on & remove the seat? Thanks in advance for any advice you can give on the above. Cheers.
Thanks Joshua. Bar length is around 35cm. What I show in this video is how quick it is to pack the bike for a transfer on some kind of transport during your tour. Let's say you take a train to skip a part you don't want to ride or so...That is why I don't bother removing the saddle and the bar. When I pack the bike for a tour I am much more careful to protect the bike. I suggest you see this video ua-cam.com/video/z8jclyfxSBg/v-deo.html as I go into details on how I pack the bike ready for the plane. Cheers.
It’s sold as an option when you get the bike but otherwise it is simply having a 44T chainring at the front instead of the standard 50T. Some use a 39 too to get even lighter gear ratios.
@@BromptonTraveler I have a lot to learn about what to bring then. I used 4 panniers and a handle bar bag to bike 2000 miles across Japan, camping mostly and staying in hotels about every 4th or 5th day. I didn't think I was carrying excessive gear but I guess I could downsize the tent. I carried no cooking gear or fuel and no electronics but a phone and a power brick and a Kindle reader.
Thanks Percy. i suppose it depends on the level of comfort you want but what you describe, ie carrying too much stuff around, is very common and only some experience can tell what you can do or cannot do without. Touring on a folding bike has kind of forced me to cut down on what I found not essential on tours that last up to a month or so. Touring for longer and on a regular bike I would probably add a few things for example cooking gear.
No. It folds in a clever way that protects the most vulnerable parts. What has happened a couple of times is the rack stays getting bent (I did a video about that) If you pack it with care it is unlikely to happen.
@@BromptonTraveler of all your trips with airlines, which are more cost-friendlier than others? Do most airlines allow Folding Bikes as regular check-in luggage or you had to opt for "Sports Equipment"?
@@Matt-px2ev It is hard to give a definite answer as airlines do change their policies and at times it also depends simply on who you find at the check-in desk! With a Brompton I have never had to pay anything extra as nobody knows I carry a bike in the bag. I was only once asked as the bag does look slightly bigger than a normal suitcase. I said I was going climbing and had boots and ropes and that was enough for them to be happy. As a rule of thumb you won't pay anything extra for long haul as they normally include at least 23Kg in your luggage allowance. My bike bag usually weighs around 21 to 23kg. On low cost airlines it is trickier as they do try to get money out of your luggage weight... I find Easyjet in Europe is the most upfront and clear in their guidelines. Ryanair is at the opposite spectrum and they normally do try to get any pound or euros that you didn't pay on your ticket! :)
I have heard of people managing to carry on a Brompton without much of a bag around it... Ikea bag is still a little large for cabin. Either ways it is a little risky because if you can't, then you might have to rush and try to pack it badly which doesn't help protecting it. I never risked it myself.
Hello there. I try not to leave the bike out of view and only carry a cheap combination lock similar to this one. www.toolstation.com/steel-combination-cable-lock/p51776?gclid=Cj0KCQiA5Y3kBRDwARIsAEwloL6YuP0R0YJuFLbev3PK0i8lwVMVef5K-NfDs2tT_wccuB4dqSRYPgMaAoIOEALw_wcB
I use a 45L backpack and I would say depending on how full it is around 70-80cm. It depends on your height but you need a backpack that according to your saddle height enables you to put the straps around and leans on the rack of your Brompton. A small backpack might not reach all the way down. A taller backpack is alright as it simply sticks out behind your saddle with doesn't matter that much.
A wonderful solution to take all the small and big things with you on a Brompton trip. I have tried to recreate it. Instead of cable ties, I have used plastic tension straps. A 30L backpack from Tatonka from 1998 fits there just as great as the Lightning. Thanks for the great video and for sharing, LG Frank ua-cam.com/video/uxAkGCxfHTU/v-deo.html
Great videos, use same method ( i borrowed from your video)on my Brom,Bronwen ., shameless plug for your book as it fits nicely with your tour films, great stuff keep doing it. Whats the new bike called and is Bronte enjoying retirement!
Most appreciated Theo, thanks! If you have any videos or blog to share on your brompton rides let me know as I would love to add it to my blog. Bronte after 500 km of intense shaking and years of abuse is now folded under a table... The new one has arrived and is all black. Still considering a name, any suggestions?
Not sure if you meant it in a sarcastic way... :) Sometime people think they are very expensive for a small folding bike. Personally I think they are good value for money as they are really reliable bikes. Price also builds up as you add gears, rack etc...
Thanks for a great video! The Brompton is so versatile! I have done quite a few weekend trips with my Brompton and just a T-bag. But then I stay in a hotel so don’t need to carry food or camping gear. Unfortunately my Brompton does not have a rear rack (it is an M3L made in 2000, so 18 years old and still going strong!) Do you know if one can fit a rear rack now as an accessory? You can meet my Brompton in my video here ua-cam.com/video/k4PixrGxV-U/v-deo.html
Dion Forster thanks Dion. Currently away on a trip but will check out your video! Not sure if rack can be fitted to your Brompton. They don’t seem to have changed that much the design so there is a good chance you can. I would contact Brompton to be sure.
That is your view. I can assure you that having toured with expedition bikes and mountain bikes in the past I find Brompton a joy to ride. A loaded Brompton is not twitchy at all as the weight you carry gives it a lot of stability. I wouldn't do a round the world trip with it but have taken it to 5300 metres altitudes and some rough roads too without a glitch. Many bike tourers find these bikes great for touring.
If Brompton is not supporting you in some fashion, theyre idiots. Brilliant work!!
Support: none zero nilch!
Brompton doesn't understand modern marketing since they don't give him any support.
The guy deserves at least a signature model.
The tyre kicker for me of buying a Brompton was the 'brompton traveller' as I like to tour on my full sized bike the fact that if the weather took a turn for the worst or injury etc. I can just hop on a train/bus, agreed, Brompton should be giving you some freebies.awesome inspiring uploads .
On my 2nd Brompton, this one a 6-speed with a rear rack and a lighting system. I've lived in South Korea, the U.S. and now Budapest with them. Superb commuting bike, and much better than you might think over distances. In Hungary, I did a 5-day bike around Lake Balaton and its 150-mile circumference. Practical, reliable, well-made and fun! Pure enjoyment!
As you can see from these videos I couldn't agree more! :)
thanks!
Hi Gianni. Inspired by reading your book and watching some of your videos my wife and I did our first mini-tour on our Bromptons last week, across Anglesey and the North Wales coast.. I used your rucksack attachment method, using a bar made from a section of old bike pump with a couple of light practice golf balls on the end. For a backpack we used a waterproof Elops one from Decathlon - very inexpensive and perfect for the purpose. Thanks, and please keep posting your rides! Jonathan
Wonderful Jonathan. UA-cam sometimes hides comments... Great to have had a little part in your ride then and I hope you enjoyed it! I will look at those Decathlon backpacks as they usually sell good value but also good quality products.
A Spanish friend sent me the link to your Chile/Argentina tour, and I don't really watch videos much but glad I kept watching!! What a horror at the start of Argentina!! I don't envy you a bit! We have two electric folding bikes, and my friend has a Brompton, tho I have no idea which model. Stay safe and thanks for the tour!!
Thanks for watching. Sometimes you have to work hard for adventure! :) Cheers
You are way too much of a adventurous biker than I @@BromptonTraveler!!! I am watching this and wondering "when does this guy find the TIME to review all his videos and process it all? Very nicely done, plus the scenics are awesome and sharp!! Thanks again!
Beautiful, simple and secure setup.
Thanks a lot! It is.
Excellent. Reading your book as well. Glad your mentioning a few mishaps as well while touring. Wishing sunny skies and smooth sailing with each pedal stroke
Thanks so much! Same to you. It is the mishaps that usually make a trip more memorable... :)
Personally, I think it is better to skip the rear rack seen in the video, saving weight and use a detachable seatpost rear rack if needed. The reduced gearing option is indeed a good idea as mentioned.
Amboro Verdecillo I have quite a large backpack to carry as in the video. Would a seatpost rear rack hold that in place? Thanks
I plan a long tour soon…and I debated between my full size specialized or my brompton….I’ve choose my brompton after doing local tours and your videos. Thank you! I’ll be getting your book for more information and inspiration.
Thanks! I am not sure what you mean by long tour but for journeys up to a month or so Brompton is ideal. Most appreciated!
Thank you for posting this and other beautiful traveling videos. I went a step further to your website to checkout more tips on packing up the Brompton, very informative. Appreciate if you could share your experiences on flying with the "Brompton package" and things to watch out for
So great idea! I think, using saddle stick and backpack is an universal construction, for any folding bike with saddle and back rack.
Yes Pavel. This setup is very flexible and works on all bikes with smaller wheels. Thanks
Fantastic! I'm about to get one of these, and you've told me almost everything I need to know. Thank you :)
Thanks Mia!
Same here :)
Viene voglia di prendere una Brompton e partire...
Bravo Gianni!
Ciao Annamaria! Come stai?? Se ti va forse Mariarosa ha un piccolo lavoro per te...:)
Hello from Switzerland. After my first ride from Lyon to Avignon (Via Rhone) without a rack, I travelled now the Velodysee (EV1) from Bordeaux via Roscoff to Brest (1.000 km). Now, with my rack, I used you hack for the backpack and the idea with the stick. I used a wooden stick and made some nuts in it, to fit better on my Brooks saddle. Thank you very much for this idea. It works perfect. By the way: What and how do you do maintenance during travelling? We had a lot of sandy and dusty tracks for bikes and the bike looks horrible full with dust every day, but I could‘n wash it every day. Which parts do you clean regularly and how often do you do this and which parts need new grease or oil and of often do you do that?
My longest travels on a Brompton have been a month long and I only took some reasonable care of keeping the chain tidy and lubricated every week or so. If you get it really dirty it is sometime worth stopping by a bike shop ( if you find any... ) and just say you are traveling and ask if they would mine cleaning the chain. It isn't always easy when touring to carry messy rags and degreasers that can help the task. Next I just keep lubricated parts like brake callipers, the bolts of the fold mechanism and if it gets messy disassemble the rear shifter and give that a thorough clean. They are tough bikes!
Ingenius backpack mounting! Thank you so much for sharing!
You bet! Thanks for watching.
You brilliant bastard. Love it!
I'll take that as a compliment! Cheers
@@BromptonTraveler 100% a compliment. Great video.
Very well considered ✅
Good to hear. Thanks!
Wonderful tips Gianni. Thank you for putting this together.
Thanks for watching!
Hi...If you want to tour on a folding bike, the Bike Friday would be a better option.
Also, why not use a carbiner to attach your backpack to the metal frame of the Brooks saddle...much simpler.
Also, you should substitute these handlebars shown for the butterfly bars that Brompton offer as an option....this will be much more comfortable on long rides and the variable hand positions it offers will help prevent the pins and needles feeling in your arm and hands.
Also, just wondering if you suffer from broken spokes...especially on the back wheel?..as the Brompton is not designed to carry heavy loads on the back.
Suneel, to each his own. Brompton are fantastic touring bikes and are used by more and more people for touring. I know Bike Friday are also good but one advantage of the Brompton is that it folds smaller. I am used to the bar but I know carabiner can also be a solution. Straps seat more naturally on the bar as they would on your shoulder. One day I will give carabiners a try and see how that goes. I don't like those butterfly bars and that is why I use Ergon grips to give me extra hands positions on the bike. I never had a broken spoke even on rough roads in Patagonia and the Himalayas.
Nice setup. I was wondering have you ever tried flying with that setup with everything like bags and bike with carry on only?
No, I think that would not work as it gets you well above the normal luggage allowance. Bikes wouldn't normally be allowed in the cabin although I have heard that it has been done in domestic US flights before. Cheers
@@BromptonTraveler thanks I also had a question why bring the extra tire when even when puntured isn't the inner tube that needs replacing? You can have a hole in the tire and if the inner tube ok, you should be fine right? I personally don't want to be carrying around another tire when touring. What are your thoughts of why u bring it?
It depends how long you go for and where you go. If you go for more than 1000 kilometres on badly surfaced roads there is a chance that your tyre will wear out and you start getting too many puncture. That is when it is good to have a spare, just in case. If you leave with new or good conditions tire you probably never need it but if you do and are in most countries in the world, you will not find a good spare tire for Brompton small wheels.
Very informative.. got mine first time to have one here.. afraid to use yet.. only parks
Nothing to be afraid they are good bikes!
@@BromptonTraveler .. bike is good... the road :) ty
Schwalbe tyres are the best
Great tyres, especially for touring when you need something that lasts and works!
@@BromptonTraveler
Exactly
I used other puncture resistance tyres but none of them worked as schwalbe and i went from having a lot of punctures to almost none.
grazie gianni!! ho già sperimentato lo zaino posteriore come l'hai suggerito tu, ed effettivamente spostarlo indietro e in verticale è comodo per la pedalata! per un lungo viaggio è comodissimo :) grazie per questi consigli!!
Grazie Marisa!
Thank you for posting this informative and helpful video, Gianni. I really appreciate your passion and enjoy watching all your inspiring bike touring videos.
Thanks!
very good idea, i will follow your way with dahon folding bike
Vlook thanks! Let me know how Dahon perform!
The way of the Dahon.
Hi I have a an M6 Brompton with the standard wide range 3 speed hub. I fitted a 39T chainring to help with climbing hills for touring. You mentioned early in the video a 12% reduction option is that in the hub? If so which hub is it? Thanks for an excellent video :)
Hi Jim, not in the hub gear but in the chainring and as you have changed already to a 39T crankset you have what Brompton refers to as a 'reduced' gear option. Mine has 44T which I think is actually advertised by Brompton as reducing ratios by -18% rather than the 12 I mentioned. Many thanks!
@@BromptonTraveler Ah thank you. I tried the 44 option on a local 25% gradient hill. It took me two attempts to get up it. So I dropped to 39 and it is no problems now. Thank you 🙏
@@jimhislop8954 Now it makes sense! That kind of gradient is where I normally start cursing and walk instead :)
I'm thinking buying Brompton and follow your bike setup. Thanks
They are good bikes for traveling! Enjoy
How do you keep your rucksack clean? The Brompton rear wheel will throw up a lot of crap onto the straps and bottom of the rucksack especially if you are riding muddy tracks, dirty roads. I don't have a rack on mine so use a seat post rack low down with smalll panniers. I guess you must really want to carry a rucksack maybe for hiking? The weight seems pretty high up on your bike and right at the back. I have an original front touring pannier with all metal frame, no plastic, it's great as you say.
Alex I always have a mudguard on the wheel so it is not that bad even on muddy roads and wet days. I always cover the backpack with a rain cover mostly to keep it clean but also to keep it dry. Rucksack is very versatile. Can be used for hiking although I haven't done any on my trips but it is easy to carry each time you need to carry the bike or move it on buses or train. The rucksack at the back looks pretty full but I try to keep it lighter than the T-Bag at the front. It mostly contains bulky things like sleeping bag, clothes, dimpa bag and the tools at the bottom.
@@BromptonTraveler Thank you for replying. I guess there are various ways to do things. It obviously works for you. What size litres is your rucksack 30 litres?
@@alexmorgan3435 Right! 45L but I always use a rucksack with roll top so that I can adjust the size according to how much I carry. Thanks!
Thanks for sharing with great information again. Have a safe and enjoyable ride on your next bike tour. Cheers.
A 12 inch copper from inside an electric wire would have work better instead of that zip lock & the buckle strap which seemed not worked well !
Not sure what you mean but what I have shown here works pretty well for me.
Please could you tell me the name of that ikea bag.
It is called Dimpa bag.
@@BromptonTraveler Thank you! I couldn't quite hear what you said in the video, so I was glad to have found this comment.
Great video. TY. Greetings from Australia
Cheers Mark!
Thank a lot for good idea. I will try with my Dahon MD8.
Sure! Thanks
Hello again Gianni, how are you? I don't have the money to afford a Brompton, do you think or have information about other foldings bikes not too expensive? I know that the cheaper is not good quality normally, but maybe a Dahon or Tern? Thank you and have a nice Friday
HI Damian, I know Brompton are pretty expensive bikes. I owned a Dahon in the past and wasn't happy with reliability but this was a decade ago and I am sure they have improved things but I am no expert in recommending a model for you. Another thing worth considering is the fact that unlike Brompton, Dahon and Tern and most other folding bikes are not as compact when folded which takes away the main reason why one should use them for touring instead of going for a regular, larger bike. Another option for you to consider is having a look if any 2nd hand Brompton bike is on for sale. While they do keep a good re-sell value, that would save you quite a bit on price. Otherwise have a look at Tern or Dahon bearing in mind how small they fold and see what works better for you. Cheers
@@BromptonTraveler grazie per la risposta, non so su scrivere in spagnolo, italiano o inglese, ma ti ringrazio veramente per tua risposta. Sono in Argentina adesso e non si trova la Brompton. Magari in marzo andò a Italia e vedo chi cosa è meglio per me. Buon weekend Gianni
@@damiangomila Hope to be back to your wonderful country one day!
@@BromptonTraveler now borders are open! You are welcome to come and visit, You should try ciclying northern provinces!
Complimenti, ottimo tutorial (piccole modifiche mirate e alla portata di tutti) e complimenti anche per i tuoi video di viaggio, sempre molto apprezzati!
Sarebbe interessante, almeno per me, avere qualche informazione sull'abbigliamento, a quanto sembra nei tuoi viaggi non indossi "abbigliamento tecnico".
Grazie, Massimo.
Great video! I hope to have an opportunity to tour on my Brompton M6R-X soon.
Thanks Paul! Give it a try one day, you'll enjoy it.
How big is backpack? 35-45 liters? consider same system but for Tern folding bike. 45 liters backpack is minimum for 2 weeks walking treek if have ultralight tent and sleeping bag. With bike want add two bags on front for storage stove, bike part and some cloth.
The one I use is 45L as you guessed but it has a roll on top which means that you can shrink or extend that a little... Good size for a few weeks trip together with the T Bag at the front.
@@BromptonTraveler THX it has sens. Have some plans for trek in Georgia, Armenia may Iran. Share cheap transport: bike, autostop, bus... I'm not good biker especially in mountains, prefer walking.
I downsized the gearing even farther. 36T on the front. We have hills not bumps here.
Gianni Filippini I walk a lot! Believe me, walking is something I’m not embarrassed to do. But walking at 2.7mph is harder after awhile than 2.7mph spinning a low gear. This makes the top end pretty low on the downs and tailwind flats but you can’t win them all I guess.
I find that walking breaks the routine of cycling. You can get off the saddle and use different muscles for a bit which is good. Of course if you end up walking hours you might as well go for a trek instead! :)
Excellent, informative video, thank you.
Thanks! Appreciated.
Great Video. What is the maximum weight that can be safely carried on the brompton? I also feel that the schwalbe marathon tyres are a bit puncture prone. I think schwalbe marathon plus is a better option.
Mahesh V thanks! Yes I normally use schwalbe Marathon plus and find them the best for Brompton. Weight of luggage shared between T Bag and backpack is around 20 kg. Front T Bag can hold up to 10kg according to specification. Also consider your weight to figure out how much you can load the bike. I weight around 75 Kg and carry about 20 Kg of luggage with me when I travel with the bike. Thanks
The rear rack is made for 10kg
Great video. Thank you for sharing.
You are welcome! Thanks
Thanks.Great.Greetings.
You are welcome!
My friend I love his videos and I am subscribed to his channel, I also have my Brompton bicycle and I do cross-country rides in Argentina, check out his exped 1 backpack of how many liters is it?
and another query because it has a spare seatpost, is it not too hard to break?
I am very happy to have found your channel
Thank you !!!
atte demian gonzalez
Thanks Demian. Exped rucksack is 45 litres. Sore seat post is not necessary but I bring it to keep the backpack stable and I put it on the bike when I fly because it is smaller than extended seat post! Many thanks
Very good video
Thanks Luis!
I can't understand. What was wrong with just drawing up the zip-locks, instead of leaving them loose? The leather straps do not seem to be doing anything useful.
effyleven You can do that but I use the zip locks mostly as a help to fit the leather straps. Leather straps are what hold the weight of the bar. Zip locks serve as a backup too in the event that the strap gets torn and breaks while you are cycling. Two thick zip locks would be probably enough on their own but I got used to this setup. Cheers
@@BromptonTraveler Cheers to you, Gianni. Enjoying your books, both.
Do you think strapping a backpack in the rear rack in your way is better than using a brompton rack sack in the rear rack?
It all depends on what you want to carry. My backpack is 45L and with shoulders straps, easy to carry on my shoulders when transporting the bike. If you want you can also hike with it which is a bonus. Not sure about the capacity of the Brompton rack sack but sure not as much? Cheers
great Vid Gianni. Cheers for your time for this production. Where are you cycling now?
Ciao Gianni, great to follow your journeys, just bought a new B. hoping to be able to do some trips in Scandinavia. I did not find any tips from yourself on which saddle to use and how to preserve your lower ... after days biking. Also, any tips on bike lighting? grazie mille
Grazie Luigi, molto gentile! As much as the parts affected, saddles are a very personal thing...I love Brooks B17 leather saddles and that is what i have always used in the last 10 years. They do take a month or so to get in shape but to me they are way more comfortable than synthetic or sporty saddles on long rides. When I tour i also wear regular outdoor trousers rather than cycling shorts with padding, as those are hard to keep dry and clean. After a couple of days you do get used to the long time on the saddle. Best advice, once you found a saddle that suits you, is to use the first few days of your tour to increase the length of your cycling. Start gently and build up from that; it will also help with how you adjust to the fitness you need. As for bike lighting i carry small rubber lights that can be wrapped on the handlebar at the front and hanged on my backpack or saddle post at the rear but rarely use them. They are for emergency if there is fog or i am caught when it gets a little dark and i have no option to stop there and then. Ciao!
You recommend a Brooks saddle?
Saddle are a personal choice but as far as my experience they are by far the most comfortable saddles for bike touring and that is why they are probably the most commonly used.
May i know what is the length of the microphone rod u used for backpack?
It was one of the three feet of the base! All you need is something that is 5-10cm wider on each side than the shoulder straps of the back you use. I would say something around 30-35 cm should work...Mine is 32cm. If you want a lighter weight and don't mind spending the money you can get some carbon fibre bars online which are really light and resistant. I use one of those at the base of the back pack to pull it away from my shoes.
Good video! Much better than using panniers
hobocyclist it works well for sure!
I've tried a backpack on the rack, but I prefer to use a rack bag with a 45L dry sack bungee corded on top fixed to the rack instead. I find it more stable as the centre of gravity is lower. Just personal preference.
A trekking pole is useful to wedge under the saddle as a stand, whilst also doubling as a tent pole as well as for if you do any trekking.
I got the idea of using a trekking pole as a stand from Heinz Stücke, the chap noted for setting the world record for bicycle touring in 1995. In a global journey spanning more than 50 years,. I think he's retired now due to age, but he finished up touring by Brompton. He used a backpack rested on the rack in his touring set up.
facebook.com/heinzstucke/?ref=br_rs
Thanks so much for sharing. If you have a link with a picture it would be nice to see. Backpack is very stable with a bar at the bottom but I found that it should also have some kind of a metal frame to make it stable. Last trip I tried a soft backpack with no frame and it was not as stable. My usual backpack was still where I had left it once when I took a mighty fall coming down a mountain! I met Heinz Stucke in London once. Amazing guy!
@@BromptonTraveler I don't have a link, but I use the T bag and Bromptom's rack bag, the lightweight dry sack, like a sausage, on top with a couple of bungees down to hook on the rack and the wrap and clip together lid looped around the saddle post so I can't lose it.
My sleeping bag in a bivvy bag and shelter (tarp) goes in the dry sack, plus clothes in a plastic bag to ensure they stay dry.
I also put eazee wheels on the rack as I use the bike as a shopping trolley, as folded up apart from the handlebars, with either the T bag left attached or the rack bag detached from the rack, turned 180° around to rest and strapped to the main tube, then they will work as a basket. This also means I don't need to touch a trolley or basket at the supermarket, in these times of pandemic.
I also have the IKEA bag as I've had bus drivers say the bike must be in a bag in the past.
Thanks for the tips! One thing I like about having only the backpack is the ease to take it on train and planes as I put that on my shoulder and have free hands for bike and T-bag but we all find out what works best. Thanks!
Man which saddles are best for this task? I'm trying to figure out how to make a backpack stand on the back of my own bike
Saddle doesn't matter, as far as you have a folding bike with small wheels you should be able to mount a large backpack.
Thanks for the great video. Informative and concise.
Thanks Jim.
I have a folding bike (Dahon) and I want to use it for bikepacking /touring. Do you think it's posible?
Hi Jorge. It is hard to say for sure as it depends on how reliable the bike is? If you have had the bike for a while and you can trust it maybe you can start with a shorter tour to find out how it performs? Doing that you can also learn what are the vulnerable parts and bring some spare parts with you and learn how to fix it. It is possible to tour with any bicycle. People have toured the world on old rickety bikes! :)
Thanks for the video. What tyres would you recommend for a foldie with 451 wheels?
Schwalbe Marathon whether the regular or the Plus which is more expensive but has further puncture protection. I have been happy with regulars and have used mostly those in the last few years. Cheers
Sweet.
Cheers
Very good video! I know that brands differ, but generally, what size backpack (in liters) do you use? I'd like to maximize available space but don't want to get one that's too big and ruin the ride quality. Thank you.
Thanks! I am posting a video in the next few days on the backpack as I often receive this question and there are other things to consider. To answer you the one I use is a 45L which I find suits me for trips up to a month. I have seen others carrying larger one or smaller ones though; depending on how much stuff you want to carry anything from 40L up is fine. Too small and you risk having to stretch the straps too much for it to seat on the rear rack, putting too much strain on the straps but mostly bringing too much swinging and movement as you ride.
Thank you for your detailed answer.
Hi Gianni! I wonder about the grips you are using. I assume they are Ergons. But which ones? Take care!
Hi Andreas, they are Ergon Gp2. They need to be cut a little to fit on the Brompton handlebar but a bike shop would do that easily for you. Cheers
Have you ever carried the Brompton onto the plane? I saw a video of an American Airlines employee who carries his Brompton onto the plane. He may be using his influence as an employee or does that work for everyone? 🎒✈️ 🛫
No I never tried! I think people who do it misty do it on domestic flights. It’s a little stressful if you find out at the last minute you cannot and need to pack it quickly.
Great video. What suitcase do you use while using airplanes? Do you normally check your brompton luggage in ? Many thanks.
Ces I have a few videos on this channel explaining in detail how I pack my bike for flight. You can start from this one ua-cam.com/video/z8jclyfxSBg/v-deo.html
Would you say 6-speed is obligatory for touring in general? I wonder if the 2 speed version with the derailleur can be enough. From my trekking bike I know that a lot of times you can have plenty of gears but only few of them are actually usable, since they are often either so easy or so hard that using them barely makes sense. When the space betwen 1st and 2nd gear is good I think 2 speeds may be enough.
Max Meier Hi Max thanks for the question. Everything is possible provided you don’t mind the limitations. I heard of people touring the world on fixies with only one speed! I would say 6 reduced gears on a Brompton is the sweet spot for me. These will meet most conditions that you are likely to encounter. Those times when they are not enough it means you might have to walk which personally I enjoy and don’t mind. 2 gears only will mean that you will be more likely to not feel comfortable. Also remember you are carrying weight of your luggage. Hope this helps.
Hi Gianni
Thanks for a great set of videos!
A question: when you say “6 reduced gears”, what does that mean? Is that the standard Brompton 6 year bike? Or is this some kind of a modification?
Thanks
Cool ikea solution
Yes, works well with Bromptons!
Really great info and ideas. Many thanks. Which size Dimpa bag do you use?
I think the Dimpa bag comes in only one size. If you need the dimensions according to IKEA it is Length: 65 cm Depth: 22 cm Height: 65 cm. It fits a Brompton + tent and other stuff quite well.
U got a Leather saddle, how is it about maintenance on the Road? Leather fat, wax etc ? …
With Brooks saddle they do recommend to use Proofide wax but to be honest I have never done anything to the B17 I have and after 7 years on my first bike it was still in excellent conditions. When you tour you are sitting on the bike all day and if it rains, which is the main concern with leather, you are either sitting on it or taking cover. At night a Brompton allows you to have the bike covered by the tent flysheet ( with most tents...) and that greatly helps the saddle to stay dry.
@@BromptonTraveler 🤔 make sense. I asked because, I’m not sure what to get. Leather or Cambium from brooks.
If u search for leather, it sounds like - new Sattel = so much maintenance, u need to fat and wax them regularly, still so sensitive ( specially rain ) and the C Sattle will rip ur pants if ur to big.
So ur Answer sounds great, I think try a Leather one. Just need to find the right size.
Thank you, that was a big help
@@seductive_Octopus I love these leather saddles. Most comfortable I have every used for touring and no wonder they are the saddle you mostly see when bike touring. Enjoy
This month I cycled on my brompton for almost 400km but during the last 70km I found there was sth wrong with the front wheel bearing, which didn't roll smoothly and was constantly making noise. It seems that the front bearing of brompton is not so enduring. I wonder if you have come across such problems before? Can your front bearing survive a long trip like 2000km?
Hi Frank. Sorry to hear that.From my experience and hearing from others, you had just bad luck and if it was a new Brompton I hope it is quickly sorted out for you... I have cycled about 12000 on my old Brompton without any mechanical issues. I do make sure I service it before my trips and do keep it well maintained and lubricated but generally it has been bomb proof. I bought a new one recently and cycling 2500km to Italy with no issues as well. Quality on these bikes usually is outstanding. Cheers
That's where the teabag sits 🤣😂😅😄😃😁
thanks!
As always excellent information Gianni - thank you. Couple of questions:
1. What length is your ‘bar’ under the seat that you attach your backpack to?
2. I noticed the bar was sticking out of the Dimpa Bag when you packed it up (& you twisted your seat sideways?) - do you remove this bar when packing for plane travel? Or just leave it on & remove the seat?
Thanks in advance for any advice you can give on the above.
Cheers.
Thanks Joshua. Bar length is around 35cm. What I show in this video is how quick it is to pack the bike for a transfer on some kind of transport during your tour. Let's say you take a train to skip a part you don't want to ride or so...That is why I don't bother removing the saddle and the bar. When I pack the bike for a tour I am much more careful to protect the bike. I suggest you see this video ua-cam.com/video/z8jclyfxSBg/v-deo.html as I go into details on how I pack the bike ready for the plane. Cheers.
@brompton traveler, very nice. But what about spare tube..or is the tyre tubeless?
Of course I bring a couple of those! And patches too.
How do you achieve the reduced gearing option?
It’s sold as an option when you get the bike but otherwise it is simply having a 44T chainring at the front instead of the standard 50T. Some use a 39 too to get even lighter gear ratios.
@@BromptonTraveler thank you.
Are you camping out on your tours or staying in accommodations along the way?
A combination of those but mostly camping if weather is not too extreme.
@@BromptonTraveler I have a lot to learn about what to bring then. I used 4 panniers and a handle bar bag to bike 2000 miles across Japan, camping mostly and staying in hotels about every 4th or 5th day. I didn't think I was carrying excessive gear but I guess I could downsize the tent. I carried no cooking gear or fuel and no electronics but a phone and a power brick and a Kindle reader.
Thanks Percy. i suppose it depends on the level of comfort you want but what you describe, ie carrying too much stuff around, is very common and only some experience can tell what you can do or cannot do without. Touring on a folding bike has kind of forced me to cut down on what I found not essential on tours that last up to a month or so. Touring for longer and on a regular bike I would probably add a few things for example cooking gear.
great video thank you!
Thanks a lot Simon! Appreciated.
Hey, would you say the 6 gears is a must? Would it make a massive difference if touring on 3 gears?
If you don’t mind walking a bit or have legs of steel it is doable. 6 gives a bit more comfort on all terrain.
If you don’t mind walking a bit or have legs of steel it is doable. 6 gives a bit more comfort on all terrain.
have you had your Brompton broken while being transported on the plane?
No. It folds in a clever way that protects the most vulnerable parts. What has happened a couple of times is the rack stays getting bent (I did a video about that) If you pack it with care it is unlikely to happen.
@@BromptonTraveler of all your trips with airlines, which are more cost-friendlier than others? Do most airlines allow Folding Bikes as regular check-in luggage or you had to opt for "Sports Equipment"?
@@Matt-px2ev It is hard to give a definite answer as airlines do change their policies and at times it also depends simply on who you find at the check-in desk! With a Brompton I have never had to pay anything extra as nobody knows I carry a bike in the bag. I was only once asked as the bag does look slightly bigger than a normal suitcase. I said I was going climbing and had boots and ropes and that was enough for them to be happy. As a rule of thumb you won't pay anything extra for long haul as they normally include at least 23Kg in your luggage allowance. My bike bag usually weighs around 21 to 23kg. On low cost airlines it is trickier as they do try to get money out of your luggage weight... I find Easyjet in Europe is the most upfront and clear in their guidelines. Ryanair is at the opposite spectrum and they normally do try to get any pound or euros that you didn't pay on your ticket! :)
Very helpful. Can you take the bike on a flight in the ikea bag? Cheers 👍
I have heard of people managing to carry on a Brompton without much of a bag around it... Ikea bag is still a little large for cabin. Either ways it is a little risky because if you can't, then you might have to rush and try to pack it badly which doesn't help protecting it. I never risked it myself.
Brompton Traveler: thanks for the reply. What type of bag do you use for traveling on a plane? 👍
Grazie!!
Sorry to ask, do you change the crank or use the original? Thanks
All original
Great video - thanks! What was that Ikea bag called again?
Thanks. It's called Dimpa Bag www.ikea.com/gb/en/products/small-storage-organisers/waste-sorting-bins/dimpa-storage-bag-transparent-art-10056770/
Thanks
thanks!
Kalau yg bekas dikirim ke Indonesia berapa haeganya pak
Thanks!
@@BromptonTraveler he was asking about how much would the price be for a used bike sent to Indonesia lol
What model is the EXPED backpack?
Vegline exped lightning 45L
which Brompton bike you use for touring?
M6R
Basically: tour on a touring bike 🙂
Bikes put a smile on your face, I always say.
What do you use to lock your Brompton if you go into a store etc?
Hello there. I try not to leave the bike out of view and only carry a cheap combination lock similar to this one. www.toolstation.com/steel-combination-cable-lock/p51776?gclid=Cj0KCQiA5Y3kBRDwARIsAEwloL6YuP0R0YJuFLbev3PK0i8lwVMVef5K-NfDs2tT_wccuB4dqSRYPgMaAoIOEALw_wcB
16"or 20" wheels are you using?
Brompton 16”
Great ..just let me pls your brompton bike model name or number. ( thanks for your videos)
Brompton M6L with rear rack and 6 Sturmey Archer reduced gears. Thanks!
That's cool, I'm getting one
thanks!
Hi great film is that Ti model superlight?
Thanks a lot John. No superlight Ti, just the standard frame.
This is literaly "bike - packing"
I guess so! With a twist....
Clever
I just copied others and tweaked it a little!
How tall is your backpack, or rack to seat back?
I use a 45L backpack and I would say depending on how full it is around 70-80cm. It depends on your height but you need a backpack that according to your saddle height enables you to put the straps around and leans on the rack of your Brompton. A small backpack might not reach all the way down. A taller backpack is alright as it simply sticks out behind your saddle with doesn't matter that much.
@@BromptonTraveler Yep, that's what I was asking. I have a full bike touring setup which is why I'm curious about the Brompton.
A wonderful solution to take all the small and big things with you on a Brompton trip.
I have tried to recreate it. Instead of cable ties, I have used plastic tension straps.
A 30L backpack from Tatonka from 1998 fits there just as great as the Lightning.
Thanks for the great video and for sharing,
LG Frank
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Thanks a lot Frank and wishing you some wonderful rides!
Great videos, use same method ( i borrowed from your video)on my Brom,Bronwen ., shameless plug for your book as it fits nicely with your tour films, great stuff keep doing it.
Whats the new bike called and is Bronte enjoying retirement!
Most appreciated Theo, thanks! If you have any videos or blog to share on your brompton rides let me know as I would love to add it to my blog. Bronte after 500 km of intense shaking and years of abuse is now folded under a table... The new one has arrived and is all black. Still considering a name, any suggestions?
@@BromptonTraveler mmm,
Maybe Brutus..italian, and if it punctures you can shout ..et tu Brute!! Loudly!
@@Oldgreywhippetdad That means ugly! It's a beautiful bike :) Thanks for the suggestion anyway!
@@BromptonTraveler oh!!! Apologies!
Boudicca or Bodicea
Celtic warrior queen
@@BromptonTraveler Gianni - you've written 500km here as total distance cycled on Bronte. Am I correct to suspect this was a typo? Thanks.
Can we sleep on the way ?😁
Of course. Any sleep is a blessing.
I love Brommies, why are they so inexpensive!!?
Not sure if you meant it in a sarcastic way... :) Sometime people think they are very expensive for a small folding bike. Personally I think they are good value for money as they are really reliable bikes. Price also builds up as you add gears, rack etc...
M6R or H6R?
M6r
Thanks for a great video! The Brompton is so versatile! I have done quite a few weekend trips with my Brompton and just a T-bag. But then I stay in a hotel so don’t need to carry food or camping gear. Unfortunately my Brompton does not have a rear rack (it is an M3L made in 2000, so 18 years old and still going strong!) Do you know if one can fit a rear rack now as an accessory? You can meet my Brompton in my video here ua-cam.com/video/k4PixrGxV-U/v-deo.html
Dion Forster thanks Dion. Currently away on a trip but will check out your video! Not sure if rack can be fitted to your Brompton. They don’t seem to have changed that much the design so there is a good chance you can. I would contact Brompton to be sure.
How to tour on a Brompton? Don't. The handlebar is too twitchy and you'll be much faster and comfortable on a full sized touring bike.
That is your view. I can assure you that having toured with expedition bikes and mountain bikes in the past I find Brompton a joy to ride. A loaded Brompton is not twitchy at all as the weight you carry gives it a lot of stability. I wouldn't do a round the world trip with it but have taken it to 5300 metres altitudes and some rough roads too without a glitch. Many bike tourers find these bikes great for touring.
@@BromptonTraveler Glad to hear that.