Nietzsche was a huge influence on Mann as was Wagner and Schopenhauer. Neitzsche' s dictum God is Dead was a recognition of the loss of faith in god as a benchmark for answers to ethical questions and a corresponding loss of an ultimate reference for such answers. Neitzsche also asserted that sickness was the normal state of human beings. This awareness is repressed in the "flatlands" below the sanitarium but heightened on the mountain. The Title of the novel is taken from Neitzsche's The Birth of Tragedy. all the best. ☮️
Tuberculosis was a very serious problem untill the discovery of penicillin in 1944...1 out of 7 people died from TB in the 19 century...it was like the plague...Manns wife was diagnosed in 1912...later examination of her original lung x Ray revealed no signs of TB however! Davos went from a tiny Alpine village in 1865 to a town of 30,000 international persons (including patients,medical staff visitors etc) by 1912. Mann visited wife there...hence the germ of the novel begun in 1913 and finished in 1924.
The ending to MM is astounding and does make the novel a waiting place for Castorp to mature and learn and as preface to the next time slice of the 20th century. The novel forms unity I think. As an aside, for those who are interested in such things, I found a New Yorker piece, “Pilgrimmage” Dec !987 by Susan Sontag that recounts her afternoon with Thomas Mann. She and another teenager come to love Mann’s writing, The friend, to Sontag’s embarrassment looks Mann up in the local California phone book and asks for a visit.. Mrs Mann serves tea and cookies and Mann generously spends some afternoon hours, in discussion with the two young people. Sontag and Mann, in same space.
Ami, that's so great, the waiting place! If we could press the time button would we appreciate that moment in time as much as we do since time is fleeting? Isn't the knowing that time will end what makes it so divine? Joachim's personality is admirable. How he always gives his opinion but does it in such a graceful way. Where as Hans or Settembrini can be brusk. I agree with Settembrini about the music, it can be dangerous or healing, either way it gets a reaction, it makes you feel something. My heart goes out to Settembrini. I think he's in great pain, struggling with something in life, regrets. I'm only on page 112. Oh & on pg 108 I couldn't help but think of The Hobbit when he mentioned 2nd breakfast, lol. Plus I keep getting the feeling that they are all in purgatory. They are all in this space, doing time, yet not deeply connecting with each other because they are dealing with their own issues. I don't know. Thank you guys for this video. Really enjoyed your discussion!
This is really strange, I am preparing my own review of The Magic Mountain and had no idea of the readalong. So happy that others are digesting this one right now, too!
I'll have to catch up. I decided to just start this weekend and being on the fence I've avoided all your magic mountain videos so far, but I think I'll have time to catch up. It definitely gets started right in the story from the beginning.
Nietzsche was a huge influence on Mann as was Wagner and Schopenhauer.
Neitzsche' s dictum God is Dead was a recognition of the loss of faith in god as a benchmark for answers to ethical questions and a corresponding loss of an ultimate reference for such answers.
Neitzsche also asserted that sickness was the normal state of human beings. This awareness is repressed in the "flatlands" below the sanitarium but heightened on the mountain.
The Title of the novel is taken from Neitzsche's The Birth of Tragedy.
all the best. ☮️
Tuberculosis was a very serious problem untill the discovery of penicillin in 1944...1 out of 7 people died from TB in the 19 century...it was like the plague...Manns wife was diagnosed in 1912...later examination of her original lung x Ray revealed no signs of TB however! Davos went from a tiny Alpine village in 1865 to a town of 30,000 international persons (including patients,medical staff visitors etc) by 1912.
Mann visited wife there...hence the germ of the novel begun in 1913 and finished in 1924.
Incredibly profound conversation. I enjoyed this despite having not read the book. Please do more of these with Ami
I hope we do too! I think we had a great time talking, glad you enjoyed it! Best regards,
One of the best discussions I've heard on booktube.🙆
Thank you, Sandra!
I'm so happy that you're doing so well with your chanel Mathew . Well done x
Thank you so much!
The ending to MM is astounding and does make the novel a waiting place for Castorp to mature and learn and as preface to the next time slice of the 20th century. The novel forms unity I think. As an aside, for those who are interested in such things, I found a New Yorker piece, “Pilgrimmage” Dec !987 by Susan Sontag that recounts her afternoon with Thomas Mann. She and another teenager come to love Mann’s writing, The friend, to Sontag’s embarrassment looks Mann up in the local California phone book and asks for a visit.. Mrs Mann serves tea and cookies and Mann generously spends some afternoon hours, in discussion with the two young people.
Sontag and Mann, in same space.
That fascinating, I'll have to look for that article online, thank you!
Ami, that's so great, the waiting place! If we could press the time button would we appreciate that moment in time as much as we do since time is fleeting? Isn't the knowing that time will end what makes it so divine? Joachim's personality is admirable. How he always gives his opinion but does it in such a graceful way. Where as Hans or Settembrini can be brusk. I agree with Settembrini about the music, it can be dangerous or healing, either way it gets a reaction, it makes you feel something. My heart goes out to Settembrini. I think he's in great pain, struggling with something in life, regrets. I'm only on page 112. Oh & on pg 108 I couldn't help but think of The Hobbit when he mentioned 2nd breakfast, lol. Plus I keep getting the feeling that they are all in purgatory. They are all in this space, doing time, yet not deeply connecting with each other because they are dealing with their own issues. I don't know. Thank you guys for this video. Really enjoyed your discussion!
Haha I love that Hobbit reference! And I agree with your insight about the sanitarium feeling like a place of purgatory.
You two are precious. Please do more talks.
Haha why thank you! We've had a few chats, I believe a few are on Ami's channel as well.
@@MayberryBookclub I've already exhausted those, many times over. ☺
This is really strange, I am preparing my own review of The Magic Mountain and had no idea of the readalong. So happy that others are digesting this one right now, too!
Awesome, I'll look forward to your video!
I read this back in August. I look forward to hearing how you find the book as you progress.
I'll have to catch up. I decided to just start this weekend and being on the fence I've avoided all your magic mountain videos so far, but I think I'll have time to catch up. It definitely gets started right in the story from the beginning.
Terrific, please let me know how you like the novel as you're reading along!
Why wasn't I invited to read along? Was it because ... I smell?
Steve we all know you smell like books. How can you not with that massive library! And I think most of us like that smell.
Oh yeah the dwarf is a woman and Hans is a ship builder. All the best ☮️