We absolutely love Farmers of the Moor, and it is our preferred way to play. Some reasons include: - Variable starting farm layouts with forest and moor tiles lead to more unique farms from game to game. - The bonus action cards add a new tension of taking them versus the first pick of actions on the board, but also can take some pressure off by allowing you to gain things without spending a worker. - New Major and Minor improvements add variety and lean into new systems like the forest and moor tiles (we like just shuffling all cards we have together). - Requirement to heat your home based on the number of rooms helps slightly slow down those who get to family growth first, it feels like that aspect of the game is slightly less on rails. And while this requirement sounds like it makes the game harder, it is balanced by the bonus actions (e.g. can fell your forest trees for wood) and the fact that you can choose to leave moor and forest tiles to help fill negative spaces on your farm. So obviously a big recommendation from us haha. It does add a little game length and who knows how balanced it is to throw everything together, but neither point bothers us. We won't use it when introducing new players, but otherwise we pretty much always include it. -Ryan
Great video! I'm curious which cards you use game to game! Do you literally shuffle everything in together or do you use a different expansion deck each time? Is it even possible to mix everything together with the farmers of the moor expansion, or does it change what minors/occupations you can use? Are there any cards you don't mix in due to balance issues?
Thanks! We just shuffle everything together, including the farmers of the Moor cards (which are only minor improvements and have different backs, so it's still easy to play without the expansion). We realize that this approach sacrifices a level of balance and fairness but we really don't care since we play casually and just love having the variability and possibilities being as high as possible. 😛 I could see it being nice to bag and remove cards we use after each play to just ensure we cycle through more of the pool, but haven't tried that yet. -Ryan
Short answer is that we love it, and it's our preferred way to play with experienced players. A few things we like about it: - Variable starting setups with arrangements of moor and forest tiles that really make everyone's farms develop differently from game to game. - Requirement to heat your home that makes it slightly harder to rush a family growth strategy, but also doesn't feel too difficult since the moor/forest tiles and bonus actions give you ways to get more fuel/wood. - Bonus actions add a really interesting decision of whether to take them to get rewards while saving a worker, but at the expense of first pick of the board actions. They also can allow more flexibility because you might be able to save a worker by covering something with a bonus action, freeing up an extra action. - Horses are a nice addition as the one thing that doesn't cap in scoring, introducing some fun opportunities for big points. - Tons of minor improvements that integrate with the new systems and provide more variety in the strategies you assemble from your hand of cards. It probably adds a little extra play time and I would only use it with experienced Agricola players, but for us it is one of our favorite expansions for any game. -Ryan
@@RollsInTheFamily Hey Ryan, thank you so much! Sometimes it is really hard to get an idea about a game or an expansion since I think it needs not justthe right inforamtion but also I need the right person to share his view with me. I feel you two are very much on a weave lenth with me so your channel is by far the most helpful UA-cam source about games. Thank you so much for your help! Seems like I order farmers of the moor Best wishes from Germany Max
I think most of that setup time for us comes from the shuffling of all of the occupations and minor improvements before dealing out hands. I am sure an insert would be nice!! -Daniel
🛒 Check out Agricola for yourself: amzn.to/3ZiMvOy
Agricola is a 10 for me too! (Though painful introducing new players, and has to be done carefully)
Thinking of getting Farmers of the Moor. Thoughts?
We absolutely love Farmers of the Moor, and it is our preferred way to play. Some reasons include:
- Variable starting farm layouts with forest and moor tiles lead to more unique farms from game to game.
- The bonus action cards add a new tension of taking them versus the first pick of actions on the board, but also can take some pressure off by allowing you to gain things without spending a worker.
- New Major and Minor improvements add variety and lean into new systems like the forest and moor tiles (we like just shuffling all cards we have together).
- Requirement to heat your home based on the number of rooms helps slightly slow down those who get to family growth first, it feels like that aspect of the game is slightly less on rails. And while this requirement sounds like it makes the game harder, it is balanced by the bonus actions (e.g. can fell your forest trees for wood) and the fact that you can choose to leave moor and forest tiles to help fill negative spaces on your farm.
So obviously a big recommendation from us haha. It does add a little game length and who knows how balanced it is to throw everything together, but neither point bothers us. We won't use it when introducing new players, but otherwise we pretty much always include it.
-Ryan
Great video! I'm curious which cards you use game to game! Do you literally shuffle everything in together or do you use a different expansion deck each time?
Is it even possible to mix everything together with the farmers of the moor expansion, or does it change what minors/occupations you can use?
Are there any cards you don't mix in due to balance issues?
Thanks! We just shuffle everything together, including the farmers of the Moor cards (which are only minor improvements and have different backs, so it's still easy to play without the expansion). We realize that this approach sacrifices a level of balance and fairness but we really don't care since we play casually and just love having the variability and possibilities being as high as possible. 😛 I could see it being nice to bag and remove cards we use after each play to just ensure we cycle through more of the pool, but haven't tried that yet. -Ryan
Thank you. Appreciate the response @@RollsInTheFamily
Agricola is definitely Uwe's magnum opus. None of his other games even come close.
You guys would also love Hansa Teutonica. Non stop tension. So many difficult choices, and they come very quick
Hansa Teutonica is high on my list of games I want to try!! -Ryan
This was a really nice review, thanks for making!
Thanks for watching! -Ryan
Could you tell me a bit about farmers of the moor?
Short answer is that we love it, and it's our preferred way to play with experienced players. A few things we like about it:
- Variable starting setups with arrangements of moor and forest tiles that really make everyone's farms develop differently from game to game.
- Requirement to heat your home that makes it slightly harder to rush a family growth strategy, but also doesn't feel too difficult since the moor/forest tiles and bonus actions give you ways to get more fuel/wood.
- Bonus actions add a really interesting decision of whether to take them to get rewards while saving a worker, but at the expense of first pick of the board actions. They also can allow more flexibility because you might be able to save a worker by covering something with a bonus action, freeing up an extra action.
- Horses are a nice addition as the one thing that doesn't cap in scoring, introducing some fun opportunities for big points.
- Tons of minor improvements that integrate with the new systems and provide more variety in the strategies you assemble from your hand of cards.
It probably adds a little extra play time and I would only use it with experienced Agricola players, but for us it is one of our favorite expansions for any game.
-Ryan
@@RollsInTheFamily Hey Ryan, thank you so much!
Sometimes it is really hard to get an idea about a game or an expansion since I think it needs not justthe right inforamtion but also I need the right person to share his view with me.
I feel you two are very much on a weave lenth with me so your channel is by far the most helpful UA-cam source about games.
Thank you so much for your help! Seems like I order farmers of the moor
Best wishes from Germany
Max
Thanks, I hope you enjoy it! -Ryan
long setup? not with a decent insert
I think most of that setup time for us comes from the shuffling of all of the occupations and minor improvements before dealing out hands. I am sure an insert would be nice!! -Daniel
I also solved setup time with my customized insert. Granted, I only play the base game.
Agricola by itself or with Farms of the Moor?
Adding in the Farmers of the Moor is our preferred way to play. 👌 -Ryan
Imagine starting life with a house, and land... nice. Pity about the struggle for food!
😂 Sounds like we need Agricola: The Prequel! -Ryan
haha i know right? If even half of us were so lucky
Agricola is just so/sew/sow good 🪡 🐑 👕 👨🌾 ⛏️🥕🌽🫛
Soooooo good. 😍 -Ryan