I watched you Andy. I saw you walking the dog, getting filmed by a silent partner, talking about things that matters. Magick is real. I have seen it work, felt it and been a part of it. Living is magical. You spit some valid truths on your snowy walk. I was there with you. For what it is worth. It changed my day.
DUDE I like your babbling, your art posturing, philosophical takes….. i think you talk well about creativity and what it means in the world. (And your stuff about framing was great too!)
I learned something valuable about race and I sat there nodding in confirmation, because Andy says things that have been weighing heavy on my mind the last 10 years.
I hit the wrong comment and typed what I was going to say to the guy above you 😅 but I gladly repeat myself, now to the right comment: You know at lower temperatures, the snow gives a special sound when you walk on it. I know snow. I was born and live in Norway, so yes, I know snow. There are many variations of snow. The one in UK is often fluffy and tends to melt really fast when it hit the warmer ground, as winters have become much warmer in the whole of Europe the last 50 years. It don't come in October, like it used to, and stays until end of February or March. These days, it's strange to see it last for more than a month from Christmas and until the end of January. It tends to melt and go away, because it does not rain every day. As Andy said, snow is rain that is frozen, then it falls to the ground as snow. If the temperature is below zero, chances are it will remain frozen until temperature raise to above 0 degrees. Which it often does during the Winter months these days. Climate change is real.
The sound of the snow on the microphone and that background actually reminded me of the beginning of Black Sabbath rather than a christmas carol. Absolutely beautiful place.
You know at lower temperatures, the snow gives a special sound when you walk on it. I know snow. I was born and live in Norway, so yes, I know snow. There are many variations of snow. The one in UK is often fluffy and tends to melt really fast when it hit the warmer ground, as winters have become much warmer in the whole of Europe the last 50 years. It don't come in October, like it used to, and stays until end of February or March. These days, it's strange to see it last for more than a month from Christmas and until the end of January. It tends to melt and go away, because it does not rain every day. As Andy said, snow is rain that is frozen, then it falls to the ground as snow. If the temperature is below zero, chances are it will remain frozen until temperature raise to above 0 degrees. Which it often does during the Winter months these days. Climate change is real.
Humour and comedy are essential for challenging what me may consider unchallengable. We can reframe our ideas and ultimately grow. Great video. Keep it up. 😎
I agree with everything you said here. I don't always agree with you 100% but I have learned a lot from your channel and you are a great teacher. You always inspire me to think about things I may not have considered before and your Sunday school videos have improved my musical journey. I'm not the smartest musician in the room, playing by feel and ear to an extent but you are helping me understand some fundamentals that I never really knew before. I appreciate that. Please keep doing the philosophy videos too! Don't stop!!
Bravo! 100% agree. And I’m also Blues and jazz lover and from Tennessee…..And yes I like Elvis! Look forward to your videos everyday. Keep up the good work!
Keep these type of videos going. I myself like a good robust philosophical discussion. I've always found it good for the soul to get certain subjects of my chest.
In the USA, BLM is used to refer to both Black Lives Matter and the federal Bureau of Land Management. I propose that the people in charge of both of these entities should swap roles for five years or so. Just as a fun social experiment.
Andy, you have a ferocious and fearless intellect. I know you are not a racist. As an American, I’ve seen the horrible stain of racism and no one of good will would disagree with the statement Black Lives Matter. Now their organization as a formal entity I’m not as familiar with. I applaud your courage as man and musician. I would recommend you read Dr. Eddie Glaude’s amazing new book James Baldwin: Begin Again, “James Baldwin’s America and it’s Urgent Lesson for our Own.” Thanks for the thought provoking philosophical discussion. Much Respect.
Very good video. In particular, I was most impressed with the subtle use of the bright green jumper immediately adjacent to the subtle dark blue cravat. Keep up the good work.
Man! these are your best videos! The discussion videos. The Jim Mullen interview was very entertaining and interesting. More of that! The video on what non musician's don't get about music was really on point. It's refreshing to hear someone articulate it well. I come to the channel for deeper music/art stuff. Not the ranking videos. Cheers
I just came in from grocery shopping and the snow in your video gave me the brrrr reflex. I'm trying to warm up under the duvet, but I often have to go in the shower to warm up, even if I have been outside for just a few minutes. I live north of the polar circle and I struggle a lot with winter and darkness depression. UK looks so much more cozy, but I lived there as a poor student over 20 years ago and the housing standard was rough. I can't imagine it's any better now.
I absolutely LOVE philosophy Saturday!! And I totally agree with treating people as individuals. Not a group!! The largest minority group is the individual!!!!
I just realised it doesn't matter what you are talking about. It's always interesting and fun. Keep going, Andy! btw do you plan to do a video about Ian Carr and Nucleus. I think he deserves it. What do you think?
Is it possible that everyone doesn’t like conflict, and that the online platforms provide a safe/liminal space for people to vent their frustrations? Doh!!
I don’t believe in systemic racism either. I do believe in demographic tendencies and I believe in ideological capture. What extent these are at play are a matter of perception until they start gathering proper statistics, then it’s an empirical question. Institutional racism is, I think, interchangeable with systemic racism. I agree that racism resides in individuals. “ So my 'identity politics' is to utilise colour blindness at certain key social interactions, and the Police restraining someone would be such an interaction.” Extended physical restraint while fellow officers are walking around is malicious intent pure and simple. Police are taught three cuffing positions. This often amounts to simply turning the hand of the person they are restraining palm up against the ground so that cannot resist by pushing up, then cuffing that person. Physically restraining a person without cuffing them is never an acceptable end goal. “ So for the police to go into an interaction thinking 'Black Lives Matter' is racist in that interaction. They should go into that interaction with concept that All Lives Matter.” - I was discussing the two slogans as pieces of rhetoric. In that, ‘Black lives’ is a topic of discussion at hand. You are re-introducing them as a thought process or mental state. How is ‘Black lives part of the thought process? ‘All lives’ is clearly wrong. We don’t value mosquitoes in the same way, so we really mean ‘All human lives’. In normal contextualized language using ‘Black lives’ no more excludes All lives than ‘All lives’ includes mosquitoes. Language is relevant to thought, but it can both under-specify it and over-specify it. Burdening a simple piece rhetoric with a thought process or philosophy with vast contingencies is a bit much to ask. Even ‘All lives matter’ a meager representation of how an assailant’s life matters, but may or may not have to be shot or may or may not require Psychological Intervention and so on.
This one is kinda special .Loving it Andy Snow ? In England?. Awesome / just lovely.music and politics do combine i wrote my single ":All Hands on Deck " as a call to arms ,a cry to all humans out there.
I can appreciate the frustration with race with wanting to play styles of music and people saying you need to be of a certain race to be authentic. I had no idea of your ethnic background but it is good to understand where you are coming from.
Absolutely brilliant. “Make Huxley fiction again” is more accurate than Orwell, at least in the still quite free world. And “make the left look at the distribution of wealth again” without these totalitarian ideas. Thank you for the good music.
Your reaction to the snow is purely situational,If you were hungry and poorly clothed, you would respond with vastly different feelings, i'm sure. In the same way that your outlook and response to many different things in life are conditional. Our personal circumstances and experiences colour our emotional responses in so many ways. This is true of politics, music, and art, and it is always a struggle to balance our emotional responses with reason and logic. Perhaps this is our real battle with life. And at the the same time, the true source of much of our art and music.
I was in the process of typing up you've gone from Weather Report to weather reports and having a go at your hats again, basically because thats how I get my kicks these days, and I was nodding off round about the point of the nun joke, but then I have to say it unexpectedly got interesting and I couldn't help agreeing with everything you said after that. Well said Andy.I'd take my hat off to you but I don't wear them, and certainly none as daft as that one.
I do enjoy these videos. I do watch them. I hope the voices you mention in this video who dislike these videos would choose to be more positive. Or not say a thing. Haters do hate, whingers do whinge. Those are voices of limiters, of door-closers. Well done. Beautiful weather as well.
My own instinct is to avoid indulging in the baser emotions like anger, hatred, and resentment. The last one is probably the hardest one to overcome, and Nietzsche did say that was a unique problem with Christian culture. Not the Church, but our unique culture that has arisen out of it. UA-cam channels will often lead with titles of "What I hate. or despise, or can't stand", which I think is always a mistake, even if it does gain viewers. These are among the base emotions, I think it was Plato who defined "Anger" as a form of madness that overcomes one's reason.
OK, So I'm trying to catch up after missing a day or two, and Andy seems to live in a space-time continuum where there are more than 24 hours in one day. I mean, I watch 24 hours of his content and there is still another 12 hours to go ON THE SAME DAY! I'm in the market for a used time-machine. ANYWAY - The comment that ended up in your "Offensive Folder" that said you needed to develop a huge dr*g habit and then commit s*****e had me laughing for ten minutes straight - tears were pouring down my face. I can see it from your end, but that one just hit me as hilarious. That's one of the reasons why I like this channel - because there is some levity to it - God knows we can all use some of that. BLM is a failing cause where I am from because people are getting fed up with the whole "Protest For Profit" thing. End of transmission.
Agree with every word. Many people who believe in identity politics think they are doing good. I think some of the aims are good but the means are just wrong and, even worse, they are completely ineffective and in some cases mimic what they are supposedly against. Keep on speaking up!
I like that you truly speak your mind Andy. In this world of political correctness which a person has to censor themselves which I don't believe in it is cool that you speak your mind. Political correctness has made the world worse and not improved it. Rock on.. Greetings from New Jersey.. )^_-)/
This may be more Music & Religion than Politics, but I’ve discovered artists and creators who hold quite extreme deeply devout beliefs (even some that seem offensive and disturbing - or just plain irrational) have made some of the most intense, moving and beautiful music I’ve ever heard.
Off topic, but Virgin Rock and Charismatic Voice just had a very interesting conversation about youtubing and music. Some views on AI in there too. Highly recommend the video. I saw it on Virgin Rock's channel, but I'm pretty sure it will be published by Charismatic too.
Thanks for this presentation. The snow looks wonderful. In the USA and in the UK, we have had identity politics for ages. It was always white identity politics, and it was racist. This still persists, unfortunately. Trump just won an election here by running a campaign based entirely on white identity politics. I agree with you that the solution to this kind of toxic white identity politics is not more identity politics, based on various “identity types.” The solution needs to be based on what unites us as humans, not what divides us. Universal justice and human rights (not to mention art) cannot be based on “identities.”
The Great White Hope Trump will hopefully be dealing with the likes of you ie getting rid of DEI hires and other anti-White haters. Your utterly stupid comment shows exactly how powerful the anti-White propaganda has been, it's actually terrifying how brainwashed the left have become. WLM
I didn't quite understand whether you're saying that Trump is racist or his opposition is? If it's the former, then read on... If it's the latter then ignore what I wrote here... (I haven't seen Andy's clip yet.) You're advocating that Trump fights fire with a small wet blanket, rather than fire. You're applying the same "logic" that pro-Palestinians use when being extremely anti-Israeli biased, namely to not allow Israelis to counter violence with violence, because somehow Palestinians have a right to kill, Jews don't. If Democrats started identity politics, which they 100% did, then it is the Right's DUTY to counter that nonsense by addressing it, not by pretending it isn't there. The point isn't to initiate WHITE POWER as leftists very stupidly suggest (and secretly WANT from Trump), it is to address the blatant racism of the Left, and then crush it forever - if possible. (Naturally, it isn't possible, just as insanity isn't curable.) Besides, Trump did not win by ONLY addressing race-related issues, that is absolute nonsense. Perhaps you need to move away from your sources (CNN, MSNBC, BBC, and a million others) and perhaps, just perhaps, listen to what the other side is saying, not what CNN CLAIMS they are saying. Trump is far from perfect, but he is constantly being misquoted by liars from the Left. Even Bill Maher, a leftist, called them out on it recently... And anyway, the Left busted their balls to get Trump to become the Republican candidate in 2016, foolishly believing that would ensure a victory for Hellary Clinton. The Left wanted Trump as her opponent, and so they got their wish... Or how about Trump having been a Democrat for years?... Did you know this?
The idea of "opposite people" creates a fracture (if successful) in what's really a continuum (a continuum because Human is the only simply valid description of such an ape). In other words it's XXXist in an ugly way. More than this, though, it's a scam. To have a Movement, you have to have a hard distinction between Yours, and Them, and so you need to have enemies. (Easy kapeazy. Just pick an enemy and hate him or her.) So I was wrong there; you have to _create_ enemies. (The ideas only really serve to create the enemies, so are secondary.) It's a pain, but it's probably best to call this what it really is - maybe "the fictionally opposite people". Or in short, you're exactly right on this matter. Unlike the idiots who don't get it. 🙂 Amazing music in the outro! That's more like what really matters in this world.
Hey Andy! I don't if you have Netflix but on December 4th there is a new documentary about Churchill during the War. Should be good. I'm assuming WW II. One didn't go so well.
For a moment I thought you were fully going into Paul Whitehouse Fast Show 'BRILLIANT' mode at the beginning haha. I like your thoughtful videos and defence of art and freedom. sharpens the mind. You tw*t 🤣
Hello Andy. I've followed you for a while. I get a lot from your videos. I really enjoyed this one. If I post up my email, will you respond? I would love to go deeper into certain matters with you. I'm a huge jazz fan BTW. I'm thrilled we share a passion for this artform.
LOL, that was some come back there at 38 mins, love it. I'm Irish but have good mates in the uk, some of my best friends. just with the blm thing, in my country when covid was a thing, we couldn't go out, but Black Lives Matter protests were allowed happen, I grew up with monty python, the British were the best at humour, I think thats how they dealt with the nazis, now John Cleese is consider a right winger by the woke, I also grew up with pink Floyd, the wall, .( I was 7 when it was released, another brick, and we were singing it in the school yard). and to think Roger was being accused of being a nazi, only last years. yes he is nuts, he's also 80 and has been anti nazi since I can remember. I'm like a couple of years shy of Andy and a musician. when I was growing up, punk bands wore swastikas, they weren't nazis ffs, they were provoking. Antifa punks are fascist, they tell people what to think and if they dont they use violence, they wear swastikas crossed out, go figure. going back on some of Andy's other vids, woke is ruining art 🙄hats off though, this is an awesome vid, the more of this channel I watch the more I get it. had to bail out aT 45mins, wine. I'll be back 😂
Must admit, being a bit of an old lefty I approached this one with a bit of trepidation. But fair play that was fucking magnificent Andy. Unity has to be the answer. Political art at it's best captures rhe zeitgeist and helps us reflect on a situation, or sometimes can just be a howl of despair (or joy). Streets on fire in 1981, riots, unemployment, and the Specials Ghost Town hits no 1. I was 19 and it felt like we'd got it to no 1. All the pissed off disenfranchised kids with no prospects. This mixed race, working class band were telling it like it is. You're centre left really mate. A mate of mine was whinging the orher night about Black History Month. 'What about a White history month. I said, 'That's the orher 11 months of the year mate 😂
@@AndyEdwardsDrummerBang on mate, and as you've said before it's class that really divides us, black white or three tits and a trunk if you're dirt poor you're dirt poor. I think it was quite telling the stories about how John was patronised, colleagues asking him for a gin and tonic because of his time in the Merchant Navy. When he punched that bloke he reacted in the moment, we expect our politicians to be saints. I would have punched the bloke for having a ridiculous mullet.
My reply to you disappeared because I referred to what John did to that bloke who egged him and suggested I would do the same, if only because of the blokes ridiculous mullet. As you've said before class is the real divider, if you're dirt poor, you're dirt poor. I thought it was quite telling the stories about how patronised he was, colleagues asking him for a gin and tonic because he worked in the Merchant Navy. He acted as a bridge between old and new Labour, before politics of all stripes got taken over by spivs in suits.
@@AndyEdwardsDrummerAlso it's so easy to be captured by ideas that may seem intially appealing. My dad was a working class Irishman who came over here when he was 15. He was a navvy who worked on the roads, principally the new motorways that were being built. One particularly bad winter he went into a factory for a while. He got quite friendly with a shop steward who was a bit like Peter Sellars character Fred Kite in I'm Alright Jack. We went to his house one night. Most of the conversation went over my head, mid 60's and I was 4 or 5. I was fascinated by a big picture over the fireplace, stern looking bloke with a bushy moustache. 'Who's that'? I said. 'Oh, that's Uncle Joe, 'Fred Kite' said. Yes that's right Stalin. Elements of the movement at the time just didn't believe the stories coming out about his brutality. They believed in an idealised version of Russia that was hopelessly naive. Totalitarianism whether it's deemed Facist or Communist has only one objective, the supression of the unlucky bastards at the bottom.
I have come off Facebook because in voicing my opinion I get called Far Right. That really upsets me. And from friends too, very rich friends at that. It is the reason I also left all the bands i'm in. But the worm is turning at the moment. My grandad looked exactly like Stalin....my mum always said she thought Stalin looked like a nice man. The left easily get drawn into this polemic, revolutionary mindset which has become now the conservative viewpoint. The left now serve the elites and those woke values they champion is at odd with the large amounts of capital, which they despise, but still keep. The political spectrum should be centrist and extreme.
Another excellent video! And your hair, as always, is perfect. From the opening scene, I knew that this was going to be a snow-job, a whitewashing ... of the day-to-day horrors of working in a rope factory, with all the whirling fibers causing all sorts of lung conditions amid a beautiful, aesthetic setting. My wife is a writer, and her two favorite reviews are "This writer should kill herself" and "The first paragraph was so awful I threw away my Kindle." I'm not sure your video was about music and politics. I was all ready to champion Family's 'Lives and Ladies' as the best anti-war song of all time. Instead, we are back into the rights and wrongs of identity wars. Do they have a role in music? Of course they have, because they have a role in society. And art has to (sometimes) address issues in society. I think we have to recognize that, if you present as White, all issues are about you as an individual - Beethoven, Mozart etc. But if you are a non-White non-male, the conservative media will immediately focus on you being a female, a non-White, a gay, or whatever. The media is the market place, the agora, and that is how they categorize the market place, so inevitably you get identity politics. When Black people give their children "the talk" at the age of seven, they are not promoting Black identity - they are recognizing Black identity. They are referring to the reality that, if you are growing up Black, you will be stopped all the time by the cops, and you will probably spend some time in jail / prison, and you might get shot for a pretense that your tail light is out (what are called "pretextual" incidents). People do not choose their identities. Their identities are imposed on them by a supposed social norm of the male White person. So, obviously, they respond within their imposed identity, whether they are women, non-White, non-traditional sexual beings etc. Yes, all advocacy groups go overboard - that is how you move the needle. And the landscape changes. There will be a time when people who identify as cows, or sheep, or chickens will raise the identity politics flag and say "All lives matter." And people will push back, saying, "You are just playing identity politics."
Snow is magical,... until you get a foot of it in one night and I gotta work in the morning. Like tonight in grand old Canada. Not so much magic as backbreaking labour. Oh we say twat too but when we say it it rhymes with not. and means a woman's ... lol and comes with the prefix ' you f**king dumb... You have the best show on yootoob and I should know I've seen plenty. Cheers on your success.
Another absolute zinger Andy...1) don't let the haters get you down - and if you save even 1 idiot from ignorance with your wisdom, that's a win for love and honesty and freedom - which is why... 2) you must NEVER stop doing your political/philosphical videos. I deny you're freedom to not speak!
With a clunky throwback to another of your videos, I find you to be a mustard analogising controversialist. I am urgently waiting for your take on the late Pete Sinfield and the fact that he is the only person I know that has managed to shovel “transmuting panacea” into a song. More power to your elbow and thanks for most of it! Well all of it really.
As someone who was raised to have the mindset of colour blindness I think it's a big shame that this is now seen as a racist dog-whistle. Because of over a decade of "anti-racists" insisting that we have to think about skin tone, different ethnic facial features and hair types 24/7 I'm not able to be colour blind anymore.
... like the story, perhaps apocryphal, that Charlie Parker was well pissed off that white men had been spotted notating what he and the others were playing in the early mornings at the 5 to 5 club, so they could nick it all and use it in white big band arrangements. Thelonious Monk said something like "well we'll have to play a music that they can't play and that they can't write down" ... and Bebop was born ... art is always informed by it's socio/political context imho.
I understand and agree with your arguments. I do however wonder if the title, "Music and Politics?" was intended for a slightly different video? This seemed a bit tangential...
I am a bit surprised. I was expecting some historical overview of politcs in music. Instead I laughed at the driver/nun joke. It would be extremely interesting to actually go through the relationship between music and politics since the Greeks.
![Chris Langan - The Interview THEY Didn't Want You To See - CTMU [Full Version; Timestamps]](/img/n.gif)
I watched you Andy. I saw you walking the dog, getting filmed by a silent partner, talking about things that matters. Magick is real. I have seen it work, felt it and been a part of it. Living is magical. You spit some valid truths on your snowy walk. I was there with you. For what it is worth. It changed my day.
I am watching this in Thailand! Snow is just surreal 😅
DUDE I like your babbling, your art posturing, philosophical takes….. i think you talk well about creativity and what it means in the world. (And your stuff about framing was great too!)
I learned something valuable about race and I sat there nodding in confirmation, because Andy says things that have been weighing heavy on my mind the last 10 years.
The snow there looks beautiful!! And the landscape there, wow. I wish I was in the UK.
I hit the wrong comment and typed what I was going to say to the guy above you 😅 but I gladly repeat myself, now to the right comment: You know at lower temperatures, the snow gives a special sound when you walk on it. I know snow. I was born and live in Norway, so yes, I know snow. There are many variations of snow. The one in UK is often fluffy and tends to melt really fast when it hit the warmer ground, as winters have become much warmer in the whole of Europe the last 50 years. It don't come in October, like it used to, and stays until end of February or March. These days, it's strange to see it last for more than a month from Christmas and until the end of January. It tends to melt and go away, because it does not rain every day. As Andy said, snow is rain that is frozen, then it falls to the ground as snow. If the temperature is below zero, chances are it will remain frozen until temperature raise to above 0 degrees. Which it often does during the Winter months these days. Climate change is real.
Love these philosophy videos Andy. Can’t wait for more
The sound of the snow on the microphone and that background actually reminded me of the beginning of Black Sabbath rather than a christmas carol. Absolutely beautiful place.
You know at lower temperatures, the snow gives a special sound when you walk on it. I know snow. I was born and live in Norway, so yes, I know snow. There are many variations of snow. The one in UK is often fluffy and tends to melt really fast when it hit the warmer ground, as winters have become much warmer in the whole of Europe the last 50 years. It don't come in October, like it used to, and stays until end of February or March. These days, it's strange to see it last for more than a month from Christmas and until the end of January. It tends to melt and go away, because it does not rain every day. As Andy said, snow is rain that is frozen, then it falls to the ground as snow. If the temperature is below zero, chances are it will remain frozen until temperature raise to above 0 degrees. Which it often does during the Winter months these days. Climate change is real.
That’s because we’re men of culture 😎
@@Johnnysmithy24 More like men of the cult. Gimme that handshake so I know you legit.
Humour and comedy are essential for challenging what me may consider unchallengable. We can reframe our ideas and ultimately grow. Great video. Keep it up. 😎
Great speech Andy ,against Identity Politics. All correct 👌 👍
I agree with everything you said here. I don't always agree with you 100% but I have learned a lot from your channel and you are a great teacher. You always inspire me to think about things I may not have considered before and your Sunday school videos have improved my musical journey. I'm not the smartest musician in the room, playing by feel and ear to an extent but you are helping me understand some fundamentals that I never really knew before. I appreciate that. Please keep doing the philosophy videos too! Don't stop!!
Bravo! 100% agree. And I’m also Blues and jazz lover and from Tennessee…..And yes I like Elvis!
Look forward to your videos everyday. Keep up the good work!
Keep these type of videos going. I myself like a good robust philosophical discussion. I've always found it good for the soul to get certain subjects of my chest.
Absolutely spot on Andy. Very well said and completely agree. Thought about becoming an MP???
Love your accent and especially your style, all your videos are interesting and fun and I always learn something- so there!
Love it, Sir.
I think it’s an important and timely argument.
Absolutely, too many of these 'crybullies' in our society today! Zero tolerance is my personal policy.
The nice big window and snow falling is my favourite background to your videos so far
In the USA, BLM is used to refer to both Black Lives Matter and the federal Bureau of Land Management. I propose that the people in charge of both of these entities should swap roles for five years or so. Just as a fun social experiment.
Another great rant. We love it. And a funky groove to close.
Dealing with idiots comes with the territory. It is quite depressing though. Take care.
Andy, you have a ferocious and fearless intellect. I know you are not a racist. As an American, I’ve seen the horrible stain of racism and no one of good will would disagree with the statement Black Lives Matter. Now their organization as a formal entity I’m not as familiar with. I applaud your courage as man and musician. I would recommend you read Dr. Eddie Glaude’s amazing new book James Baldwin: Begin Again, “James Baldwin’s America and it’s Urgent Lesson for our Own.” Thanks for the thought provoking philosophical discussion. Much Respect.
Very good video. In particular, I was most impressed with the subtle use of the bright green jumper immediately adjacent to the subtle dark blue cravat. Keep up the good work.
You hit it on the head Andy. I posted this on Facebook. Considering you said this off the top of your head makes it all the more impressive.
Thanks for that! I['m no longer on Facebook
Man! these are your best videos! The discussion videos. The Jim Mullen interview was very entertaining and interesting. More of that! The video on what non musician's don't get about music was really on point. It's refreshing to hear someone articulate it well. I come to the channel for deeper music/art stuff. Not the ranking videos. Cheers
Amen, brother!
I love this stuff ❤
Never stop speaking your truth mate
Excellent video. Keep it honest, keep it funny, keep it thoughtful, and your core audience will keep growing.
I love these Philosophy Saturday videos. Keep up the good work.
I appreciate your argument!
Excellnt choice of wardrobe colors today Andy. Brave theme for this episode, thank you for your courage and your calm.
I just came in from grocery shopping and the snow in your video gave me the brrrr reflex. I'm trying to warm up under the duvet, but I often have to go in the shower to warm up, even if I have been outside for just a few minutes. I live north of the polar circle and I struggle a lot with winter and darkness depression. UK looks so much more cozy, but I lived there as a poor student over 20 years ago and the housing standard was rough. I can't imagine it's any better now.
I feel reinvigorated by this video!
I absolutely LOVE philosophy Saturday!!
And I totally agree with treating people as individuals. Not a group!! The largest minority group is the individual!!!!
Right on, Andy! X
the snow is magic, living in Australia this is a dream to see the snow in the intro of this video , Cheers
They say that politics is downstream from culture.
All art is freedom. The essence of politics is control. Therefore the two are in tension.
I just realised it doesn't matter what you are talking about. It's always interesting and fun. Keep going, Andy!
btw do you plan to do a video about Ian Carr and Nucleus. I think he deserves it. What do you think?
Is it possible that everyone doesn’t like conflict, and that the online platforms provide a safe/liminal space for people to vent their frustrations?
Doh!!
Andy, the snow is a massive percussion instrument!
It is magical!
I love the song Cocaine socialism by Pulp. The lyrics are ridiculous. It shows how politicians look at the artists.
I don’t believe in systemic racism either. I do believe in demographic tendencies and I believe in ideological capture. What extent these are at play are a matter of perception until they start gathering proper statistics, then it’s an empirical question. Institutional racism is, I think, interchangeable with systemic racism. I agree that racism resides in individuals.
“ So my 'identity politics' is to utilise colour blindness at certain key social interactions, and the Police restraining someone would be such an interaction.” Extended physical restraint while fellow officers are walking around is malicious intent pure and simple. Police are taught three cuffing positions. This often amounts to simply turning the hand of the person they are restraining palm up against the ground so that cannot resist by pushing up, then cuffing that person. Physically restraining a person without cuffing them is never an acceptable end goal.
“ So for the police to go into an interaction thinking 'Black Lives Matter' is racist in that interaction. They should go into that interaction with concept that All Lives Matter.” - I was discussing the two slogans as pieces of rhetoric. In that, ‘Black lives’ is a topic of discussion at hand. You are re-introducing them as a thought process or mental state. How is ‘Black lives part of the thought process? ‘All lives’ is clearly wrong. We don’t value mosquitoes in the same way, so we really mean ‘All human lives’. In normal contextualized language using ‘Black lives’ no more excludes All lives than ‘All lives’ includes mosquitoes. Language is relevant to thought, but it can both under-specify it and over-specify it. Burdening a simple piece rhetoric with a thought process or philosophy with vast contingencies is a bit much to ask. Even ‘All lives matter’ a meager representation of how an assailant’s life matters, but may or may not have to be shot or may or may not require Psychological Intervention and so on.
Keep up the good work Sir.Minister for common sense.✌️😎
This one is kinda special .Loving it Andy Snow ? In England?. Awesome / just lovely.music and politics do combine i wrote my single ":All Hands on Deck " as a call to arms ,a cry to all humans out there.
I can appreciate the frustration with race with wanting to play styles of music and people saying you need to be of a certain race to be authentic. I had no idea of your ethnic background but it is good to understand where you are coming from.
Andy, I didn't expect it---but this is one of your best videos!
Genius.
Awesome video have a great weekend Andy and also I feel sad ❤😢
Enjoyed this. Recent subscriber looking forward to more. Love the track at the end. Well done.
When a counter argument can't be properly premised, ad Hominem is all that's left to engage in.
this is genius. I can't think as fast as you talk 🙂
Absolutely brilliant. “Make Huxley fiction again” is more accurate than Orwell, at least in the still quite free world. And “make the left look at the distribution of wealth again” without these totalitarian ideas. Thank you for the good music.
Yes very good. More of this although i am worried about how much of your videos i am watching lately. 😂
I can imagine Charles Dickens walking down those snowy roads… 🥹❤️
Your reaction to the snow is purely situational,If you were hungry and poorly clothed, you would respond with vastly different feelings, i'm sure.
In the same way that your outlook and response to many different things in life are conditional.
Our personal circumstances and experiences colour our emotional responses in so many ways.
This is true of politics, music, and art, and it is always a struggle to balance our emotional responses with reason and logic. Perhaps this is our real battle with life.
And at the the same time, the true source of much of our art and music.
I was in the process of typing up you've gone from Weather Report to weather reports and having a go at your hats again, basically because thats how I get my kicks these days, and I was nodding off round about the point of the nun joke, but then I have to say it unexpectedly got interesting and I couldn't help agreeing with everything you said after that. Well said Andy.I'd take my hat off to you but I don't wear them, and certainly none as daft as that one.
I do enjoy these videos. I do watch them. I hope the voices you mention in this video who dislike these videos would choose to be more positive. Or not say a thing. Haters do hate, whingers do whinge. Those are voices of limiters, of door-closers.
Well done. Beautiful weather as well.
Fantastic. I think the Philosodays are the best clips you do.
Edit - now if we can only get you to reconsider your dislike of the Stones.
Thank you.
Great video.
Love the videos, block the eejits! Life's too short to pay them attention ❤
Love and Peace Andy. I learn a lot from your videos. Big fan! (Who's the artist
at the end of the vid?)
Well said!
Tell us more about the music video at the end....
My own instinct is to avoid indulging in the baser emotions like anger, hatred, and resentment. The last one is probably the hardest one to overcome, and Nietzsche did say that was a unique problem with Christian culture. Not the Church, but our unique culture that has arisen out of it. UA-cam channels will often lead with titles of "What I hate. or despise, or can't stand", which I think is always a mistake, even if it does gain viewers. These are among the base emotions, I think it was Plato who defined "Anger" as a form of madness that overcomes one's reason.
OK, So I'm trying to catch up after missing a day or two, and Andy seems to live in a space-time continuum where there are more than 24 hours in one day. I mean, I watch 24 hours of his content and there is still another 12 hours to go ON THE SAME DAY! I'm in the market for a used time-machine. ANYWAY - The comment that ended up in your "Offensive Folder" that said you needed to develop a huge dr*g habit and then commit s*****e had me laughing for ten minutes straight - tears were pouring down my face. I can see it from your end, but that one just hit me as hilarious. That's one of the reasons why I like this channel - because there is some levity to it - God knows we can all use some of that. BLM is a failing cause where I am from because people are getting fed up with the whole "Protest For Profit" thing. End of transmission.
Agree with every word. Many people who believe in identity politics think they are doing good. I think some of the aims are good but the means are just wrong and, even worse, they are completely ineffective and in some cases mimic what they are supposedly against. Keep on speaking up!
I went to catholic school and I fell in love with some of the nuns....
In the Bay Area we haven't had a measurable snowfall since 1975.
I like that you truly speak your mind Andy. In this world of political correctness which a person has to censor themselves which I don't believe in it is cool that you speak your mind. Political correctness has made the world worse and not improved it. Rock on.. Greetings from New Jersey.. )^_-)/
This may be more Music & Religion than Politics,
but I’ve discovered artists and creators who hold quite extreme deeply devout beliefs (even some that seem offensive and disturbing - or just plain irrational) have made some of the most intense, moving and beautiful music I’ve ever heard.
Off topic, but Virgin Rock and Charismatic Voice just had a very interesting conversation about youtubing and music. Some views on AI in there too. Highly recommend the video. I saw it on Virgin Rock's channel, but I'm pretty sure it will be published by Charismatic too.
2nd video i watched since i subscribed. Very well reasoned arguments. I knew you was a brummie. Lol.
Hilarious take on community comments! 😂
Thanks for this presentation. The snow looks wonderful.
In the USA and in the UK, we have had identity politics for ages. It was always white identity politics, and it was racist. This still persists, unfortunately. Trump just won an election here by running a campaign based entirely on white identity politics. I agree with you that the solution to this kind of toxic white identity politics is not more identity politics, based on various “identity types.” The solution needs to be based on what unites us as humans, not what divides us. Universal justice and human rights (not to mention art) cannot be based on “identities.”
The Great White Hope Trump will hopefully be dealing with the likes of you ie getting rid of DEI hires and other anti-White haters. Your utterly stupid comment shows exactly how powerful the anti-White propaganda has been, it's actually terrifying how brainwashed the left have become. WLM
💯
I didn't quite understand whether you're saying that Trump is racist or his opposition is?
If it's the former, then read on... If it's the latter then ignore what I wrote here... (I haven't seen Andy's clip yet.)
You're advocating that Trump fights fire with a small wet blanket, rather than fire. You're applying the same "logic" that pro-Palestinians use when being extremely anti-Israeli biased, namely to not allow Israelis to counter violence with violence, because somehow Palestinians have a right to kill, Jews don't. If Democrats started identity politics, which they 100% did, then it is the Right's DUTY to counter that nonsense by addressing it, not by pretending it isn't there. The point isn't to initiate WHITE POWER as leftists very stupidly suggest (and secretly WANT from Trump), it is to address the blatant racism of the Left, and then crush it forever - if possible. (Naturally, it isn't possible, just as insanity isn't curable.)
Besides, Trump did not win by ONLY addressing race-related issues, that is absolute nonsense. Perhaps you need to move away from your sources (CNN, MSNBC, BBC, and a million others) and perhaps, just perhaps, listen to what the other side is saying, not what CNN CLAIMS they are saying. Trump is far from perfect, but he is constantly being misquoted by liars from the Left. Even Bill Maher, a leftist, called them out on it recently...
And anyway, the Left busted their balls to get Trump to become the Republican candidate in 2016, foolishly believing that would ensure a victory for Hellary Clinton. The Left wanted Trump as her opponent, and so they got their wish...
Or how about Trump having been a Democrat for years?... Did you know this?
The idea of "opposite people" creates a fracture (if successful) in what's really a continuum (a continuum because Human is the only simply valid description of such an ape). In other words it's XXXist in an ugly way.
More than this, though, it's a scam.
To have a Movement, you have to have a hard distinction between Yours, and Them, and so you need to have enemies. (Easy kapeazy. Just pick an enemy and hate him or her.) So I was wrong there; you have to _create_ enemies. (The ideas only really serve to create the enemies, so are secondary.)
It's a pain, but it's probably best to call this what it really is - maybe "the fictionally opposite people".
Or in short, you're exactly right on this matter. Unlike the idiots who don't get it. 🙂
Amazing music in the outro! That's more like what really matters in this world.
Hey Andy! I don't if you have Netflix but on December 4th there is a new documentary about Churchill during the War. Should be good. I'm assuming WW II. One didn't go so well.
For a moment I thought you were fully going into Paul Whitehouse Fast Show 'BRILLIANT' mode at the beginning haha. I like your thoughtful videos and defence of art and freedom. sharpens the mind. You tw*t 🤣
Hello Andy. I've followed you for a while. I get a lot from your videos. I really enjoyed this one.
If I post up my email, will you respond? I would love to go deeper into certain matters with you. I'm a huge jazz fan BTW. I'm thrilled we share a passion for this artform.
I like these videos.
We luv u more Andy 😂
LOL, that was some come back there at 38 mins, love it. I'm Irish but have good mates in the uk, some of my best friends. just with the blm thing, in my country when covid was a thing, we couldn't go out, but Black Lives Matter protests were allowed happen, I grew up with monty python, the British were the best at humour, I think thats how they dealt with the nazis, now John Cleese is consider a right winger by the woke, I also grew up with pink Floyd, the wall, .( I was 7 when it was released, another brick, and we were singing it in the school yard). and to think Roger was being accused of being a nazi, only last years. yes he is nuts, he's also 80 and has been anti nazi since I can remember. I'm like a couple of years shy of Andy and a musician. when I was growing up, punk bands wore swastikas, they weren't nazis ffs, they were provoking. Antifa punks are fascist, they tell people what to think and if they dont they use violence, they wear swastikas crossed out, go figure. going back on some of Andy's other vids, woke is ruining art 🙄hats off though, this is an awesome vid, the more of this channel I watch the more I get it. had to bail out aT 45mins, wine. I'll be back 😂
Must admit, being a bit of an old lefty I approached this one with a bit of trepidation. But fair play that was fucking magnificent Andy. Unity has to be the answer. Political art at it's best captures rhe zeitgeist and helps us reflect on a situation, or sometimes can just be a howl of despair (or joy). Streets on fire in 1981, riots, unemployment, and the Specials Ghost Town hits no 1. I was 19 and it felt like we'd got it to no 1. All the pissed off disenfranchised kids with no prospects. This mixed race, working class band were telling it like it is. You're centre left really mate. A mate of mine was whinging the orher night about Black History Month. 'What about a White history month. I said, 'That's the orher 11 months of the year mate 😂
I love an old leftie! RIP John Prescott!!! a giant!!!
@@AndyEdwardsDrummerBang on mate, and as you've said before it's class that really divides us, black white or three tits and a trunk if you're dirt poor you're dirt poor. I think it was quite telling the stories about how John was patronised, colleagues asking him for a gin and tonic because of his time in the Merchant Navy. When he punched that bloke he reacted in the moment, we expect our politicians to be saints. I would have punched the bloke for having a ridiculous mullet.
My reply to you disappeared because I referred to what John did to that bloke who egged him and suggested I would do the same, if only because of the blokes ridiculous mullet. As you've said before class is the real divider, if you're dirt poor, you're dirt poor. I thought it was quite telling the stories about how patronised he was, colleagues asking him for a gin and tonic because he worked in the Merchant Navy. He acted as a bridge between old and new Labour, before politics of all stripes got taken over by spivs in suits.
@@AndyEdwardsDrummerAlso it's so easy to be captured by ideas that may seem intially appealing. My dad was a working class Irishman who came over here when he was 15. He was a navvy who worked on the roads, principally the new motorways that were being built. One particularly bad winter he went into a factory for a while. He got quite friendly with a shop steward who was a bit like Peter Sellars character Fred Kite in I'm Alright Jack. We went to his house one night. Most of the conversation went over my head, mid 60's and I was 4 or 5. I was fascinated by a big picture over the fireplace, stern looking bloke with a bushy moustache. 'Who's that'? I said. 'Oh, that's Uncle Joe, 'Fred Kite' said. Yes that's right Stalin. Elements of the movement at the time just didn't believe the stories coming out about his brutality. They believed in an idealised version of Russia that was hopelessly naive. Totalitarianism whether it's deemed Facist or Communist has only one objective, the supression of the unlucky bastards at the bottom.
I have come off Facebook because in voicing my opinion I get called Far Right. That really upsets me. And from friends too, very rich friends at that. It is the reason I also left all the bands i'm in. But the worm is turning at the moment. My grandad looked exactly like Stalin....my mum always said she thought Stalin looked like a nice man. The left easily get drawn into this polemic, revolutionary mindset which has become now the conservative viewpoint. The left now serve the elites and those woke values they champion is at odd with the large amounts of capital, which they despise, but still keep. The political spectrum should be centrist and extreme.
Another excellent video!
And your hair, as always, is perfect.
From the opening scene, I knew that this was going to be a snow-job, a whitewashing ... of the day-to-day horrors of working in a rope factory, with all the whirling fibers causing all sorts of lung conditions amid a beautiful, aesthetic setting.
My wife is a writer, and her two favorite reviews are "This writer should kill herself" and "The first paragraph was so awful I threw away my Kindle."
I'm not sure your video was about music and politics. I was all ready to champion Family's 'Lives and Ladies' as the best anti-war song of all time. Instead, we are back into the rights and wrongs of identity wars.
Do they have a role in music? Of course they have, because they have a role in society. And art has to (sometimes) address issues in society.
I think we have to recognize that, if you present as White, all issues are about you as an individual - Beethoven, Mozart etc. But if you are a non-White non-male, the conservative media will immediately focus on you being a female, a non-White, a gay, or whatever. The media is the market place, the agora, and that is how they categorize the market place, so inevitably you get identity politics.
When Black people give their children "the talk" at the age of seven, they are not promoting Black identity - they are recognizing Black identity. They are referring to the reality that, if you are growing up Black, you will be stopped all the time by the cops, and you will probably spend some time in jail / prison, and you might get shot for a pretense that your tail light is out (what are called "pretextual" incidents).
People do not choose their identities. Their identities are imposed on them by a supposed social norm of the male White person. So, obviously, they respond within their imposed identity, whether they are women, non-White, non-traditional sexual beings etc.
Yes, all advocacy groups go overboard - that is how you move the needle. And the landscape changes. There will be a time when people who identify as cows, or sheep, or chickens will raise the identity politics flag and say "All lives matter." And people will push back, saying, "You are just playing identity politics."
Snow is magical,... until you get a foot of it in one night and I gotta work in the morning. Like tonight in grand old Canada. Not so much magic as backbreaking labour. Oh we say twat too but when we say it it rhymes with not. and means a woman's ... lol and comes with the prefix ' you f**king dumb... You have the best show on yootoob and I should know I've seen plenty. Cheers on your success.
i appreeciate your lack of stock footage bullshit, just you spitting from the stomach
Another absolute zinger Andy...1) don't let the haters get you down - and if you save even 1 idiot from ignorance with your wisdom, that's a win for love and honesty and freedom - which is why... 2) you must NEVER stop doing your political/philosphical videos. I deny you're freedom to not speak!
ONYA ANDY!
With a clunky throwback to another of your videos, I find you to be a mustard analogising controversialist. I am urgently waiting for your take on the late Pete Sinfield and the fact that he is the only person I know that has managed to shovel “transmuting panacea” into a song. More power to your elbow and thanks for most of it! Well all of it really.
Buss drivers will be furious about this.😎
Only the Greek bus drivers
That bloody hat!
Thumbnail is straight out of Gorky Park.
It’s a Holden Caulfield hat.
In your world the “Van” in the Dick and Dyke is also flagged, as in “Van Morrison.” Despite him apparently being an enormous jerk, I love Van.
Van Morrison wrote Jocky Wilson Says.
thought they were one and the same
As someone who was raised to have the mindset of colour blindness I think it's a big shame that this is now seen as a racist dog-whistle. Because of over a decade of "anti-racists" insisting that we have to think about skin tone, different ethnic facial features and hair types 24/7 I'm not able to be colour blind anymore.
... like the story, perhaps apocryphal, that Charlie Parker was well pissed off that white men had been spotted notating what he and the others were playing in the early mornings at the 5 to 5 club, so they could nick it all and use it in white big band arrangements. Thelonious Monk said something like "well we'll have to play a music that they can't play and that they can't write down" ... and Bebop was born ... art is always informed by it's socio/political context imho.
Pretty sure Dexys were in on the Jackie Wilson thing.
when i put Julian Lage on my car stereo is shows a picture of Julian Lennon!!!
I understand and agree with your arguments. I do however wonder if the title, "Music and Politics?" was intended for a slightly different video? This seemed a bit tangential...
This is a music channel. in talking about music these are the responses I get. Politics is thrust into this arena
Yehaw!!
I agree with your opinion on blm
Whatever it is, I’m against it.
I am a bit surprised. I was expecting some historical overview of politcs in music. Instead I laughed at the driver/nun joke.
It would be extremely interesting to actually go through the relationship between music and politics since the Greeks.
I will have a go at some point