This thesis makes so sense for me. We're what we love. It's so biblical and augustinian! The impact of this in my educational approach has been so relevant.
Blessed is he who walks not in the council of the ungodly- man is not an animal, lack of dicserment in the body of christ is going through the roof! -straight off the deep end, lord give us some shcaeffers and rookmaakers! we need some biblical weight
Okay. I think can articulate the problem I'm having with this. Girrard tells us mostly the same thing; that we learn what to want from others. But the difference here is in how he holds this idea. You are holding it as if it is a precious truth. He is holding it as if it is a curse. I agree more with Girrard in this case. Also, neither one of those options maps very well onto my personal experience. Which is that I grew up surrounded by "cultural practices" and I have distinct memories as a very small child of not wanting them and wanting something else, but I had no idea what that was because I hadn't been exposed to that "Something" yet. It wasn't until I was a little older when I had some exposure to alternatives that this longing became more concrete. So, when using this to add value to the practice of liturgy, I would integrate the fact that some people's realities don't map onto this as an assumption at all. Because, I love liturgy. But only now, as an adult, after I have passed the age of consent and can make informed choices about what I want conditioning my bodymind. I wouldn't want to impose this on my child or even on myself as a child. Not unless that liturgy was enacted by the Church body in ways that engage the full spectrum of human experience. And just so you know, most of my life - without knowing it - I have essentially been trying to write liturgy (and practice it in my chosen family and finally all alone because my family didn't like it) for a myriad of other human experiences besides that big building we go to on Sunday Morning and sit and listen or stand and sing in. Not talkin' about "magic words" or rote prayers. Talkin' about real desire made audible in theology and intention. So, to some extent, I tried to give my kids the conditioning you speak of. But it wasn't wanted. And I had no allies. This kind of thinking makes little connection to "normal" people.
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This is fascinating to rewatch after following Jordan Peterson's work.
Also, Jonathan Haidt's rider/elephant analogy.
This thesis makes so sense for me. We're what we love. It's so biblical and augustinian! The impact of this in my educational approach has been so relevant.
We live from the heart, not the mind!
I find this concept fascinating and as a Muslim, inline with the teachings of the Quran. Thanks!
Blessed is he who walks not in the council of the ungodly- man is not an animal, lack of dicserment in the body of christ is going through the roof! -straight off the deep end, lord give us some shcaeffers and rookmaakers! we need some biblical weight
Along similar lines to Edwards’ Treatise on Freewill.”
[applause!]
Fantastic. Thanks.
AMO ERGO SVM ?
Okay.
I think can articulate the problem I'm having with this.
Girrard tells us mostly the same thing; that we learn what to want from others. But the difference here is in how he holds this idea. You are holding it as if it is a precious truth. He is holding it as if it is a curse. I agree more with Girrard in this case.
Also, neither one of those options maps very well onto my personal experience. Which is that I grew up surrounded by "cultural practices" and I have distinct memories as a very small child of not wanting them and wanting something else, but I had no idea what that was because I hadn't been exposed to that "Something" yet. It wasn't until I was a little older when I had some exposure to alternatives that this longing became more concrete.
So, when using this to add value to the practice of liturgy, I would integrate the fact that some people's realities don't map onto this as an assumption at all. Because, I love liturgy. But only now, as an adult, after I have passed the age of consent and can make informed choices about what I want conditioning my bodymind. I wouldn't want to impose this on my child or even on myself as a child. Not unless that liturgy was enacted by the Church body in ways that engage the full spectrum of human experience.
And just so you know, most of my life - without knowing it - I have essentially been trying to write liturgy (and practice it in my chosen family and finally all alone because my family didn't like it) for a myriad of other human experiences besides that big building we go to on Sunday Morning and sit and listen or stand and sing in. Not talkin' about "magic words" or rote prayers. Talkin' about real desire made audible in theology and intention. So, to some extent, I tried to give my kids the conditioning you speak of. But it wasn't wanted. And I had no allies.
This kind of thinking makes little connection to "normal" people.
Though, I am bit confused, about the overall matters of,the said liturgical New approach, I am about on this/ur side,Sir
I'm here for my Dramatic Lit class. Oddly enough.
the heart and mind should be working together, which im quite sure was true of augustine
Great. Thanks