Hector's 5 Low Elo Mistakes to AVOID for EVERY Role! - League of Legends
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Chapters:
0:00 - Introduction
1:05 - Mistake 1
4:10 - Mistake 2
8:08 - Mistake 3
11:11 - Mistake 4
13:30 - Mistake 5
17:26 - Outro
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I've never heard of overpushing before, and I've watched countless guides for beginners, nobody ever mentioned this. This is huge
The crazy thing is what most people consider low elo (up to gold and maybe including depending) it's actually better than pushing the correct amount in a lot of cases, if you're behind especially because the enemy team either completely ignore you or 3 come to kill you while your team have the chance to do something much more impactful.
The only problem is you never know whether it will be until later on in the game based on how everyone rotates to objectives and catches waves
Low elo isn't to gold, Emerald is also low elo, i would say D1+ might be high elo or even higher@@Financialguide2023
These tips were actually so insanely valuable. If this series could be repeated every few weeks, it would give enough time fix those mistakes and not be overwhelmed by trying to fix multiple mistakes at once. :)
Hector, my 🐐 returns in front of the paywall!!
The Dragon illness in low elo is annoying. You might have baron, both sides have 2 dragons and you will find players pinging the shit of you to contest a dragon while having the easiest way to end the game, or push their whole base.
insane insights, im master adc and have never heard about overpushing, playing since 2014, it`s something i usually feel but have never thought about it as a mechanic, please, bring more of these "unspoken" or intuitive things that are pretty important even as small things
That jungle tip was super interesting. Thanks!
Guess who's back, back again
He is back, tell a frien'
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Hector's back.
Mistake #4 about supports, my god. I'm Diamond 1 support main and i always help to push wave and back with my adc. I never though about going base earlier for roam
one of the many reasons most adc mains prefer an auto filled adc main as their supp instead of a supp main
@@eleum1400 adc mains are always complaining about something anyway
Im master and I realized I'm playing on automatic doing this omg
@@eleum1400 tbh every adc pings and asks for lane push ALWAYS ! 😂 Thats like automatic process everyone do.
i'm ADC main and this is true.@@pepperonigawd
Love Hector videos! I really like how he explains and breaks things down to be very simple. Thank you for what you do Hector! You are awesome!
Such a good video! Finally understood what you meant by freezing and pulling the wave. Thanks!!
I'm genuinely impressed with the quality of these takes. Great video
the minion killing during trade section as part of mid was amazing, thanks!
This is sooooooooo helpful, ty!!
omg these tips was on another level it was so usefull thank you
These were all great. I was aware of most of them, but not how much they really mattered. That top and ADC tip in particular were pretty crazy.
The more I learn about wave management, the more I fell in love with the game. I'm an idiot with no hands, but this kind of deep knowledge is fun and makes me see the game in a whole different way.
Much like the support tip I say it’s the same for jun sometimes just popping from a bush and scaring the enemy to run is literally enough but you only ever see people try and force fights that leaves you both low or one dead and the other screwed for lane.
Really depends. Jungles should rarely ever show themselves on the map. I'd say only if it's crucial or you've bumped into someone near an objective, but the best thing you can do is get prio(rity) in the lanes next to the obj (top and mid for grubs/herald/baron and bot and mid for dragons) a Jungler can help with that prio and that's the better thing to do, gank those lanes if they're not pushed enough and when they are pushed up, congrats, you have prio. that's IF they rotate though lol.
5:20 See, this advice is good and makes sense, but I've also met laners that flame and int because we didn't get objectives even when we have a kill lead. It's not just a jgler thing. I've seen an adc grief because we didnt get rift herald AFTER we secure a dragon and failed to take out mid tower (they were trying to solo the rift). I've seen many teams grief over not getting void grubs while top and mid are losing. It's really more an issue of newb teams wanting objectives when it's the wrong time to take them.
AND what's your point? Do what your team wants you to do to lose the game? In soloq you don't have team bud just ignore them AND play your game.
very good tips!
your guides and you site for what region are they? cus im euw and the challengers in my region wich is germany say some things wich are very different
I often do the early recall as a support after getting the double kill. Then I press f4 and see that my adc pushed the wave stayed bot and is greeding for turret plates now at an item disadvantage. I often leave them to die at that point and try and make something happen mid. If I walk bot and they are dead by then it does me no good to stand bot and if I go mid it’s often at least a blown flash.
Im in this picture and I don’t like it
Acctualy a realy helpful video gj.
It's nice, because you're right: despite the advice being broken out by role, it's pretty universal.
As a jg main if you mute your chat you do better too since you just play your game
preach. I deafen every game
nothing worse than a jungle who didn't see they started dragon/void and you can't for the life of you do anything to tell him there is a free dragon/void
@@DustyyBoi player who completely ignores the ping system spotted. you can literally just ping dragon/grub alive via scoreboard, itll give the check/cancel popup for team even if ping muted. + the fact if pings arent muted since most jg just mute chat, its literally just ping assistance, need vision, on my way. Its not hard.
@@kyoholiday129 unless they are too stupid to understand pings I'm like 87% sure they muteall. and most people ignore the dragon ping system, I for one do. after the first day I made it as small as possible and put it in the bottom right corner. people spam that thing more than ss
Is there a place within skill-capped to find more 1on1 or even small group coaching?
the moment you said Dragon soul my first thought was "oh, win time" - then with the IMMEDIATE callout lol
the jungle advice blew my mind, I recognize myself in there wow, and Im a diamond player (main adc though)
Thanks hecktor that was awesome :D
Top is actual good advice
So I watch Skillcapped videos all the time, in order to apply the concepts I learn not to lol but to another moba called Predecessor. And when I got to mistake 3 i was shocked because i started to do this naturally after watching so many skillcapped videos
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u smart man xd ty
Whats to stop people from just yolo pushing wave on you and making the wave constantly crash so the turret makes u miss minions
How do you avoid the mistake of having the other 2 lanes you are not playing suck super hard and feed?
every lane has a different way of doing this but the answer is generally that you need to play more aggressive until you draw pressure and then as soon as you are the one drawing the enemy's attention you make yourself impossible to kill.
If its a super doomed spot like duel 0-10's then playing for bounty is often the best. If its only slightly doomed like top mid 1-4 then crossmaping on the the side that isnt feeding can be good. But all things league, everything is situational.
a friend of mine is a lot better player than me, byt he keeps telling me that the objectives are the most important aspect to win a game as a jungler. and he still telling me that i shouldn't push side lanes because I'm jungler. i get his point, but i feel like, like you said, i get a vision for just one thing and i don't have any other options. what do you think?
2:15 nautilus gesturing completely caught me off-guard lmaooo
who made this
Mistake 4: does it count if i throw a thresh lantern so adc can get plates while i start my back?
I think it does cause it needs a meaningful window of time between u and ad to be effective/efficient. But also situational.
If u worried bout adc dying "just because " then its a mistake to stay, if u worried cause u have no vision and enemy jg/mid might be rotating then it isnt...
how come they removed all of their video playlists/lists (or that theres just only 2 now, that are season 14)?
The dragon tip is so true. When I smurf in emerald I just wait for enemy to take objectives and get free kills and jg camps
Part of mistake #2 also comes from laners not understanding priority and thinking that their jungler should go to dragon 1v4 and somehow secure it in low elo. I have seen junglers get flamed for counter jungling top and not going to contest dragon when their mid laner and support are dead and everyone is up on the enemy team.
The problem is your team always WANTS objectives but is always fine not going anywhere near them, then blame you as the jungler for not getting them by yourself the enemy grouped on them.
As a Jungler, I really agree on the objectives. Many times in games I'm leading the objective fight but we lose due to enemy team just getting more kills, farm and plates.
Really overrated, more like something to do if there's nothing better to do.
So glad Hector's Back
Hmm. I just watched this video on sunday, and it reminds me of my top renek game, which i destroyed a reksai top with the same things he mentioned unintentionally.
Pet peeve as a support. The you get a good trade, the adc crashes the lane, you have minions at the enemy tower, and the adc decides to recall. They don't auto the turret at all, which means they don't get plate gold. The minions are going to destroy the plate anyway. Is there a logical reason for this, or are they just not watching?
I disagree with the underlying idea of mistake 2 i think it is a good tip for maybe mid elo gameplay. But from my experience the benefit of a kill or 2 is not as great as the benefit that some of the objectives can give you.
But if you slow push then how are you going to get push advantage and hit level 2 first?
I see Hector in the title, I click. it's really that simple
these tips are actually way too good
He’s back!!!
Hector could you start a macro quiz series?
Hector is the best!
Mistake 2 still happens even in Diamond. I mean for a challanger it's probably still "low elo" but yeah, it's so annoying.
Have you done a vid on jungling yet?
They have but it was for people who’d never jungled before
Hi Hector! :)
"The winning team will be the one to take the objectives"
Also, "We didn't take drag here, and gave it to the enemy team. But it's fine"
"don't overthink things as a Jungler"
Also, " most teams would just Dragon here. But my mid laner is low, I need krugs, top is pushing, support got an STD last night and my adc is only operating at 87% efficiency due to jet lag"
Hi Hector :)
the only constant in league is suffering, I question every day why I still put up with doing this, even when I know it's...
OMG HECTOR HI!
"honestly,i int way too much in top lane"
relatable🗿
If u just take objective when it's not a hassle then why in pro scene they fight to death for the dragon and baron? like they are going for 5v5 in the obj?
That rarely happens, and you know it.
HECTORRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!❤
People always misrepresent dragon soul winrates so much, they fail to realise a team usually has soul because they are winning, rather than a team winning because they have soul. I would be willing to bet that >80% of games would be won by the same team even if u gave soul to the team that lost it.
On mistake 4, I would not be surprise an uneducated ADC will immediate complain, "why support recalling? I could have gotten gank!"
I think laners need to hear the jungle mistake as much as junglers do. Lord knows how many times I have laners pushing and forcing for a dragon or baron that ends up wiping our whole team.
As a nunu player i will eat objectives as if they are normal camps
I love you hector
The jungle tip I wish all junglers thought like that
Achilles: HECKTOR!!!
Mistake 2:
Instructions unclear now my Enemy team have dragon soul and 6 void grubs
no high elo playing as much in low elo zs=wag leaves the chat
pretty good vid ig
The biggest mistake mid laners do in low elo is spam missing pings on their roaming supports. In my case then I just stick around mid lane and take their farm.
Hector is the goat
watching these vids is a god send i’m so bad at this game its not even funny hopefully i stop getting roasted going 0/10/1 😭
is Hector okay? he seems to be throwing certain hints at us, i am worried for his health. skillcapped, please make sure to clean out his water dish once a day.
"i have never seen a support do this" man i'm already doing it every time and i'm sure a lot of supp are doing it often too. That's no crazy concept, throw all your spells in the wave to weaken the minions and then just let your adc last hit and finish the push when you base. This is nothing crazy... A lot of people are doing it... But since we get out of vision to base i guess it's less obvious than seeing the supp attacking the wave.
My question is, how do we know which part of the lane we should want the wave to be for each champion. There aren’t really detailed guides on stuff like malphit or maokai top that are up to date
There really isn't a clear and definite answer for every case. You have to learn to deduce what you want and what your opponent wants. If you need time to kill you opponent and you straight up win the 1v1 at the stage of the game in question, you probably want to to keep the wave frozen on your side of the lane by holding the wave like in the Cho'Gath vs Darius example. If the enemy is ranged you DO NOT want the wave in front of your tower because they can harass you while you hug your tower (the exception to this is if you want your jungler to gank). For Malphite or Maokai, your a tank with no real range outside of Malphite q so probably want to keep the wave frozen in front of your tower unless your lane opponent can harass you from range or is able to trade well under your tower. Both those champs aren't typically going to crush their lane opponent. More just chill and wait for skirmishes and teamfights. A lot of this is match up knowledge and there are always going to be exceptions to the rule. Hopefully this helps!
This is really just my best analysis so someone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
depends on the matchup and what you're trying to do.if you want to rotate to grubs,you hardpush and crash.if you're weaksided and your enemy is strong sided,you try to freeze
I wish my teammates would watch this😔
I'm doing everything SC says to do, but I cant seem to get out of Bronze. I post every game to my channel in my Bronze Chronicles series. I'd appreciate any feedback /coaching from anyone at this point. I jungle. My biggest struggle currently is just dealing with toxicity. Either my team has the clown or the other team or maybe I'm just having a rough game. It feels like a role of the dice with every game. I acknowledge I need to improve, just not sure where. I'm at that point now where I need someone to point it out to me because I feel like I'm doing things correct.
Watching your vids you can improve on your mechanics A LOT. Simply faster more efficient clicks, more dodging skillshots, more landing urs, more spacing, more kiting and not brainless auto attack trading. There is SO much more. A lot of people will tell you that you can climb using only good macro and proper play. This is kinda true, but it is also true that you can climb with terrible macro if your micro compensates for it. Basically some players will make bad plays, but their mechanics compensate so they end up ahead anyways.
Basically my best feedback would be to improve your micro. Also just disable chat in bronze. There is nothing relevant from game chat.
I recently got a friends bronze account to play on. So far im 80+ % winrate playing as fill after like 15 games. Im only a platinum player and the skill gap between platinum and bronze is insane. And trust me, PLAT IS STILL LOW ELO, IM A NOOB. If a noob can get 80% winrate in bronze then so can you buddy, keep trying and try to just play alot of games to improve your micro. You seem to know enough macro to get out of bronze. Like youre kinda insinuating, you actually know what the correct play is a lot of the time. You just need to get the micro to back it up, and YOU DONT need to be a 16 year old super talent to have good micro. You can have pretty slow but just consistent and efficient clicks.
Also something i noticed when i watch you clear your camps. You can pull them WAY more, and it does save you several seconds. You can probably shave 10 seconds off your first clear ONLY by pulling your camps further. You basically wanna use ur first set of abilities on the camp, then you INSTANTLY kite it to the edge of the aggro circle. When its 3-4 seconds off dying you start pulling it AWAY from the circle towards your next camp while also kiting and finishing off the camp. This takes a little practice in order for the camps to reset. This might not be worth the first 10 times youre doing it, but after you get it down you will save so much time. Also i saw that youre oversmiting alot. Especially in the early game, if you get a leash on your camp and the camp is around 7-800 hp when theyre done leashing DO NOT smite this camp. Unless you KNOW the enemy jungler is going to invade you, you smite the camp early to MAKE SURE you get the full 600 damage. In your latest video youre smiting your first camp on 500 hp. This is a full second or more wasted with early game attack speed. If you just combine these two things and get it down, your clear is gonna get so much faster. Faster clear means you gank earlier, you can invade enemy, you can be on scuttle before enemy. Its higher tempo. Its huge.
The other thing i noticed is you stay on the map WAY TOO MUCH. In the volibear game i watched you are late for the scuttle because your clear is sub optimal, yi takes the scuttle in front of you. You then shadow yi ALL THE WAY to bot scuttle and WATCH HIM TAKE IT and start your 2nd full clear WITHOUT RECALLING and buy with ur 900gp. I cannot stress how bad this is. After you even see yi on the first scuttle your instinct should be to INSTANTLY RESET. If you did this you wouldve actually had tempo advantage on yi, who goes for double scuttle. Your camps give more xp, the ONLY reason you take scuttle is for the extra gp, and for early vision. But you can just ward. Its not worth losing 30+ seconds or even potentially dying since level 4 yi will kill level 4 voli every time. If you had just reset and started your 2nd full clear you would have been at Drake/voidgrubs or a gank with a TEMPO ADVANTAGE and with gold spent
Youre basically missing out on 3 kills worth of gp if ANYTHING happens on your 2nd clear. And in solo queue, pretty much every 2nd clear something happens. Even if nothing happens youre clearing slower cause you dont have gp spent. Again, all you had to do was DO NOTHING and recall, and you wouldve been ahead of yi.
@@mkayy736 I cant thank you enough! I really appreciate the time you took to point out some of my bad habits. Things I am going to work on:
1) Completely overhaul my first clear. I need to practice efficient clearing way more in the practice tool.
2) take advantage of resetting instead of wasting time.
3) moving more efficiently in combat with skill shot champs
I'm going to keep coming back to your comment as I focus on working on my play. Thank you so much!
@Herm
No worries man, i enjoy watching videos like yours as they showcase really relatable league gameplay, as opposed to just watching good players. And yeah, the 3 points you highlighted are definitely where i would start. The 3rd pointhowever, i didnt only mean when youre playing skillshot champs. Its more so learning enemy champ skillshots and how to Dodge them. Learning how to hit skillshots is kinda important yes, but how to space properly vs enemy skillshots and abilities in general is infinitely more important. And as i said my guy, the only way to learn is literally just to keep playing. Keep recording your gameplay, ESPECIALLY the games where you are losing and playing badly. They give you a lot more valuable info than games where you are playing well. I know it sucks rewatching a game where you go 0/10, but its for sure the best way to improve. Good luck my guy and i really hope you can use any of this, and that im not just ranting xd
@@mkayy736 You're absolutely right! I'm going to keep up the practice and post more videos. I've taken this week to practice in draft. I'm glad you enjoy the regular person gameplay. I too, enjoy watching reality game play where its just a normal person playing the standard experience. I'm hoping to get some dubs tomorrow to show thanks for your help
Game deciding gromp fights... yes, every game ;(
The title should have definitely read "1 mistake for every role" not 5 for every role, that implies there are 5 each totaling 25
Smurfing is a plague on this game.
“There’s not a single challenger player in the world that has ruined more low ELO games than I have”😂
I hate these videos cause it makes me see how stupid I am at seeing the smallest of fixes for things I get upset or am bad at.
5:05 to say it with the wise words I see under every video these days: "your fault. analyze your game and find out what to do better."
Plis low elo junglers,second part is most important think in the world
Bro advertised more than 3 times in the video. We get it man. you need the money
I play jg cuz i hate to be ganked lol
Yo is that really jungle Morgana?
10:21 - The most BS shuriken 🤣
Instructions unclear for jungle. I have now reached iron 4.
I really wish people would stop using trolling incorrectly.
Why does my dog Hector have 5 elo mistake tips
Not sure about mistake n°4. I see so many times my support trying to roam everywhere while i'm fed as adc and the other laners are weak. They end up doing nothing or worse, while i can't use my lead because i'm 1v2.
That was the point he was trying to make. When he staggers his recall like mentioned you are not in a 1v2 since the roam is already finished before you are back in lane.
Thank god Hector's back, I've been considering unsubbing for a while drowning in all the tier lists
Sounds 100% like dating women as most of us are men.
Hector on the jungle obj section: The less you care about them the more easily you’ll get them. (Obj/women) 😂😂
Just take my wallet and give me coaching by Hector already!
Hi Hector 🫂
Laners just need to play jungle and don’t say a word to your teammates and watch what happens lol just try it. Even listening to how you explained the second mistake I can hear the angry typing/ attitude in your voice